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    Get your slushies ready, because this month’s Examining video is all about Glee. The hit Fox series was a behemoth in TV, but its impact on music was just as strong. Let’s take a retrospective walk through the full series, its music, and how these geeks managed to rise to (and fall from) the top…
    Let me know your favorite Glee episode/song/character/Will rap in the comments!
    NOTE 1: Drake surpassed Glee's record in March of this year, not February.
    NOTE 2: At two points in this video, I use terms regarding people who use wheelchairs. Some of you have told me that these phrases are at best cringy, and at worst offensive. I apologize for using those terms, and will be more mindful of my language going forward.
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    TABLE OF CONTENTS
    Intro - 00:00
    Backstory - 01:01
    The Pilot - 01:43
    Season 1 - 03:30
    The Music of Glee - 06:57
    Season 2 - 11:05
    The Business of Glee - 14:40
    Season 3 - 17:44
    Season 4 - 26:25
    The Quarterback - 36:55
    Season 5 - 39:40
    Season 6 - 44:46
    Aftermath/Impact - 49:37
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    SOURCE LIST
    Show Footage
    Brennan, Ian, Brad Falchuk and Ryan Murphy, creators. Glee. Brad Falchuk Teley-Vision, Ryan Murphy Productions, and 20th Century Fox Television, 2009 - 2015.
    Articles Cited in Video
    Ganz, Jacob. “Hits That Aren't: 'Glee' Songs Zoom Up And Down The Charts.” NPR, NPR, 19 Nov. 2010.
    “How Glee Cast Became the Act With the Most Hot 100 Entries in Billboard History.” Billboard, 17 May 2019.
    Jensen, Jeff. “Why a Humbled 'Glee' Is a 'Glee' Worth Watching.” Entertainment Weekly, 16 Jan. 2015.
    Turner, Kyle. “Glee Captured All of Its Wasted Promise in One Character.” AV Club, 9 May 2019.
    VanDerWerff, Emily. “I Can Pinpoint the Exact Moment Glee Got Bad.” Vox, Vox, 20 Mar. 2015.
    Articles Shown in Video
    - www.billboard.com/articles/ne...
    - www.complex.com/music/2020/03....
    - www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...
    - www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...
    - www.jonathancoulton.com/2013/...
    Other Articles That Inspired the Video
    - www.billboard.com/articles/ne...
    - www.reuters.com/article/us-gl...
    - www.networkworld.com/article/...
    - / ive-heard-that-song-be...
    - www.mixonline.com/recording/m...
    - www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...
    - www.vulture.com/2015/03/glee-...
    - www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/11/15...
    - www.thedailybeast.com/dont-fo...
    - www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzma...
    - www.theatlantic.com/entertain...
    - www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...
    - www.thedailybeast.com/glee-no...
    - www.thedailybeast.com/glee-ry...
    - www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...
    - www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/8...
    - abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...
    - www.playbill.com/article/how-...
    - www.rollingstone.com/culture/...
    - ew.com/article/2010/08/19/kin...
    CBS News Clip: • "Glee effect" changing...
    ABC News Clip: • Cory Monteith Found De...
    Opening Tune: • Bach/Swingle Singers -...
    Kitty/Marley Clip from Oh Hello! On Broadway (Netflix)
    Community Dean Rap: • Community - Dean Pelto...
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Komentáře • 6K

  • @MicTheSnare
    @MicTheSnare  Před 3 lety +5806

    One Small Correction: Drake actually beat the Glee Cast's Hot 100 record in March 2020, not February.

    • @BlueCornOntheMoon
      @BlueCornOntheMoon Před 3 lety +150

      thats even crazier holy shit

    • @MrGleeiscool
      @MrGleeiscool Před 3 lety +27

      Ok make more gleee videos and I’ll subscribe glee is my life I’ve watched it since season 2 aired on fox and it’s the best show ever

    • @amusarty
      @amusarty Před 3 lety +12

      How come out of that whole thing that was the only thing you messed up.... jesus christ dude

    • @KD-fs9qq
      @KD-fs9qq Před 3 lety +11

      And most of drakes songs that were on the hot 100 went #1 or top 10

    • @PaperBackHead10
      @PaperBackHead10 Před 3 lety +25

      Ok ok ok ok ok OK. Listen, I was a huuuuge gleek back in my day. Think I jumped on the wagon at season 2 and nose dived off at what I thought was season 6. Just got towards the end of the video and quickly realized I actually stopped after S5 because WHAT THE FUCK? THEY HAD COACH BEISTE TRANSITIOOONNN??? What was the point of “never been kissed” if she was trans? It was so refreshing to me to have a masculine presenting woman that wasn’t a lesbian or trans (and I say that as a stud lesbian) dealing with her masculine and feminine sides. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised but it seems so damn pandering. Trans visibility matters but not when it’s shoehorned in there as an afterthought.

  • @DeeL3
    @DeeL3 Před 3 lety +4481

    Mr. Schue - You're all minorities, you're in the Glee Club.
    Camera man - pans to black girl and gay kid.

    • @TheActualAldo
      @TheActualAldo Před 3 lety +37

      True

    • @JamesLawner
      @JamesLawner Před 3 lety +241

      This is the exact opposite energy of Jeff Winger's "You're not a study group, you're a community"

    • @noahdomingo1162
      @noahdomingo1162 Před 3 lety +82

      @@astrorockwitch Saying it's a mockumentary is easily one of the biggest stretches I've ever seen lol

    • @imsadlol4528
      @imsadlol4528 Před 3 lety +75

      @@noahdomingo1162 it wasnt a mockumentary but it was very much satirical especially towards the beginning.

    • @hello2996
      @hello2996 Před 3 lety +1

      can anyone explain what minority is? i searched it already but i don't get it

  • @Laramaria2
    @Laramaria2 Před 3 lety +2523

    Glee has one flawless point: Burt Hummel! Kurt's father is the most loving character ever. He doesn't care for Kurt's sexuality, he only cared for his son's happiness and safety! When Finn made a homophobic comment about Kurt, he was willing to break up with his beloved girlfriend (aka Finn's mother) to protect his son! Burt is the best by far!

    • @AleciaFluffyPresents
      @AleciaFluffyPresents Před 3 lety +10

      I'll give you that... But also Unique?

    • @devan6812
      @devan6812 Před 3 lety +81

      @@AleciaFluffyPresents but what about Unique texting with Ryder using other girl photo? it was weird besides Burt was in all 6 seasons and Unique didn't have much screen time but I like her too so I understand 😊

    • @eviekenyon574
      @eviekenyon574 Před 3 lety +71

      DeVaN I hated that storyline, they turned a character with loads of potential into a creepy joke

    • @ryanwalker8212
      @ryanwalker8212 Před 3 lety +23

      @@AleciaFluffyPresents Unique as a character was a horrible person. Talking about wearing real fur and being a bitch

    • @belhlv
      @belhlv Před 3 lety +2

      @@devan6812 Ryder wasn't in season 6 ;-;

  • @danikeir
    @danikeir Před rokem +570

    The biggest work of fiction Glee ever produced was the fact Rachel was able to find an apartment that size for $1,800 in NYC...

    • @urbanrealism237
      @urbanrealism237 Před 9 měsíci +4

      No literally

    • @mariamejawara
      @mariamejawara Před 9 měsíci +10

      She said that her parents paid for it. They're rich

    • @flamethrow868
      @flamethrow868 Před 7 měsíci +30

      Just checked, the price of a two bedroom in Bushwick for rent while season 4 was airing was roughly 1900$ on average. That doesn't seem like that much of a stretch, especially since they said that the building had a lot of broken amenities and it was a really bad neighbourhood in Bushwick?

    • @leahdavis9434
      @leahdavis9434 Před 6 měsíci +13

      ​@@flamethrow868wasn't it also a warehouse and not an apartment? That's why there weren't rooms

    • @corneliastreet2491
      @corneliastreet2491 Před 4 měsíci

      She was literally riding her bike around the place 😂

  • @allisonruff8725
    @allisonruff8725 Před 2 lety +890

    The comedic timing of the zoom on “Priority #1: Help the Kids” still makes me cackle today

    • @taylorgayhart9497
      @taylorgayhart9497 Před rokem +69

      Honestly the editing in the first season is top tier! That’s the best example, but there were so many other times they used the editing for humor, but it was funny because it was more subtle. After season one they started beating you over the head with the editing gags and it got exhausting.

    • @flamethrow868
      @flamethrow868 Před 7 měsíci

      @@taylorgayhart9497 Wasn't that from season 4 or 5 when Will told Finn he framed him?

    • @bisexial_disaster2795
      @bisexial_disaster2795 Před 6 měsíci

      @@flamethrow868 It was a callback to the original scene that did that

    • @flamethrow868
      @flamethrow868 Před 6 měsíci

      @@bisexial_disaster2795 Oh, I haven't noticed it in the first season, or forgot, it has been a few years, over a decade now lol, damn I feel old.
      Anyways, thank you for clearing that up!

    • @DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly
      @DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly Před 6 měsíci +6

      It also annoys me that people point out that 'this was so fucked up' as if that was not already part of the text. The show is already pointing out its a bad idea and using it as a joke.

  • @nicoviola1489
    @nicoviola1489 Před 3 lety +3790

    I STILL CANNOT COMPREHEND THAT EMMA PILLSBURY LEFT JOHN FREAKING STAMOS FOR A CREEPY SHOE

    • @Bluebaritone
      @Bluebaritone Před 3 lety +111

      👞

    • @isabelhoch3713
      @isabelhoch3713 Před 3 lety +29

      Wait I thought he left her? 😂

    • @Melissdan
      @Melissdan Před 3 lety +140

      @@isabelhoch3713 He did but it was because he knew she still loved Shue for some odd reason

    • @isabelhoch3713
      @isabelhoch3713 Před 3 lety +2

      Mellis Dan tru

    • @belhlv
      @belhlv Před 3 lety +3

      hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahhaa shoe ahahahhahahahhaahahahaha,
      ;-;

  • @foodie2525
    @foodie2525 Před 3 lety +6169

    It’s funny how Rachel said that Santana couldn’t play Fanny because she was Latina but it was okay for Rachel to play Maria in West Side Story 💀

    • @Caprizonica
      @Caprizonica Před 3 lety +400

      And Lea in an interview said Naya couldn't play an Italian character- can't remember who- because she wasn't Italian like her. 🤨

    • @bbybby7589
      @bbybby7589 Před 3 lety +125

      omgg i've been conplaining about this since forever thank u for saying it lmao

    • @darrencriss5529
      @darrencriss5529 Před 3 lety +133

      I hate Rachel so much

    • @lll.24601
      @lll.24601 Před 3 lety +43

      PROBLEMATIC

    • @looksbyangelollie8864
      @looksbyangelollie8864 Před 3 lety +2

      No the narrator said that

  • @neverobinson5527
    @neverobinson5527 Před 2 lety +2031

    Will Schuester's Thong Song cover is actually worthy of instant imprisonment. No trial. Just straight to jail.

    • @princess_vic0111
      @princess_vic0111 Před rokem +27

      omg that scene was so painful

    • @Maya-mf9uo
      @Maya-mf9uo Před rokem +9

      No bc it was traumatizing

    • @Maya-mf9uo
      @Maya-mf9uo Před rokem +12

      But my ultimate guilty pleasers will forever be Gold Digger and I’ve Ice Baby it’s embarrassing how much I like those songs

    • @Scandal262
      @Scandal262 Před rokem +24

      I need to know what percentage of this show's runtime is just cringe white guy rapping

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 Před rokem +8

      Oh my God not even just the song but his dancing in that scene 😭

  • @rock_talk4004
    @rock_talk4004 Před 2 lety +2862

    The greatest things about this show:
    1. Jane Lynch
    2. Kurt in the first three seasons
    3. Britanny's cat
    4. Chord Overstreet's name

    • @agnessofiacastrocarvalho774
      @agnessofiacastrocarvalho774 Před 2 lety +51

      Well i absolutely loved Kurt in the first two seasons, but S3 and onwards he was tolerable 15% of the time to me, with his voice being responsable for a large percentage of the time where i find him intolerable. Overral tho, Kurt's a great character especially the first two seasons, but not immune to any of the flaws of the writing more than anyone else

    • @lemonace6695
      @lemonace6695 Před rokem +66

      Same but also:
      5. Introducing me to Starkid and TinCanBrothers via Darren Chris

    • @emilyblenn
      @emilyblenn Před rokem +53

      @@lemonace6695 6. Cough Syrup
      7. bohemian rhapsody

    • @criptastical
      @criptastical Před rokem +57

      9. Burt Hummel

    • @jamdoe6486
      @jamdoe6486 Před rokem +42

      10. Blaine in Season 2
      11. Samcedes at its best
      12. Santana and Mercedes duets

  • @robynrichmond0
    @robynrichmond0 Před 3 lety +12760

    If Glee was on today Will Schuester absolutely would have sung ‘Senorita’ with Rachel and it would have been incredibly creepy.

    • @tellnate29
      @tellnate29 Před 3 lety +738

      Do not make me think about this for the love of god

    • @verasmolyakova5221
      @verasmolyakova5221 Před 3 lety +197

      i lowkey want to watch that happen hahahahah

    • @IzabelaSSilva
      @IzabelaSSilva Před 3 lety +159

      Whyyyyyyyyyyyy did you need to say that

    • @Xendella
      @Xendella Před 3 lety +79

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOPPPPPPP

    • @DeeL3
      @DeeL3 Před 3 lety +165

      Mr. Schue and Holly Holiday singing this would actually be good.

  • @tonio6043
    @tonio6043 Před 3 lety +3973

    Remember when MARLEY had to apologise for fainting from her eating disorder. She Had to be The one to apologise because everyone was mad at her for fainting. SHE HAD TO APOLOGISE FOR HER EATING DISORDER

    • @janvi126
      @janvi126 Před 3 lety +140

      EXACTLY I got sooo mad

    • @paigeb1236
      @paigeb1236 Před 3 lety +108

      Ugh that still pisses me off

    • @SparklyGals
      @SparklyGals Před 3 lety +397

      Plus everyone immediately forgave and forgot about Kitty being the actual damn reason why Marley developed an eating disorder. Yet Marley costing the win for sectionals kept being brought up as a joke.

    • @thatguycalleddan1702
      @thatguycalleddan1702 Před 3 lety +264

      And then she got suspended because she was uncomfortable wearing a bikini

    • @andblahblahblah7968
      @andblahblahblah7968 Před 3 lety +45

      SparklyGals There was a deleted scene that made this situation so much better...dont know why they deleted it.

  • @DukeDukeGo
    @DukeDukeGo Před 2 lety +3455

    Santana singing "If I die young" hits extra hard after her actress also died young

  • @wryn.is.trying
    @wryn.is.trying Před rokem +607

    The most heartbreaking moments of audio in glee are in season 3, when the teachers are talking about Karofsky’s suicide attempt and sue says “i keep imagining how his father must have felt finding him” and it cuts to these awful wails and screams from his dad, and in Quarterback when the music cuts out and Santana is sobbing and then screaming.
    Glee didn’t have very many moments of serious emotion being shown without making it a joke, but those two parts… man. i almost cry every time i hear them.

    • @micro-babe
      @micro-babe Před rokem +41

      I kinda stopped in around season 4 but you're so right about the Karofsky scene. This show is so stupid but that scene will absolutely make me sob every time.

    • @chrishansen8119
      @chrishansen8119 Před 6 měsíci +11

      Every time I see the karofsky scene, karofskys dads screams sound so real. The actor put everything into that

  • @Betta66
    @Betta66 Před 3 lety +1560

    "Half white, half black, and half Jewish"?
    No wonder he's conflicted. He's three halves.

    • @chronicallyunstable
      @chronicallyunstable Před 3 lety +88

      A *tri*-racial person?!
      Take *that,* Logic!

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 Před 3 lety +47

      I’m pretty he means his white side is Jewish.

    • @lisah8438
      @lisah8438 Před 3 lety +24

      @@naomi4582 It is also a ethnicity or race.

    • @abbiezinn3352
      @abbiezinn3352 Před 3 lety

      @Lisa H It’s not a race.

    • @Sara-qt2ym
      @Sara-qt2ym Před 3 lety +27

      @@abbiezinn3352 yes it is. literally ashkenazi jewish shows up in dna tests.

  • @5sos_acid_trip
    @5sos_acid_trip Před 3 lety +14515

    I like how we all silently agree: Mike Chang never did anything wrong

    • @charlene.n.m.
      @charlene.n.m. Před 3 lety +203

      Didn't he start dating Tina when she was still with Artie?

    • @arapadapa
      @arapadapa Před 3 lety +319

      Charlene Ngandu Mbani no Tina broke up with him I think before then

    • @xanderkusakabe6420
      @xanderkusakabe6420 Před 3 lety +433

      He did one tho when he texted Tina that "Rachel's one of a kind" like that's not supportive of him as a boyfriend. But other than that, yeah...

    • @haileygrimmius9451
      @haileygrimmius9451 Před 3 lety +410

      Except when he reprimanded Tina when she spoke up and said she was tired of Rachel getting all of the attention. Otherwise he didn’t really do anything wrong

    • @Cat-oj5oj
      @Cat-oj5oj Před 3 lety +191

      Except get an Asian F 😂

  • @skeleletonboi4533
    @skeleletonboi4533 Před 2 lety +651

    I find it really funny that Gorillaz actively and publicly denied Glee, cause their song Clint Eastwood (banger) is in the first Trolls movie. It has "MCR refusing to let Twilight use their music but personally recorded Welcome to the Black Parade in simlish for the Sims" energy

    • @lithiumkid
      @lithiumkid Před 2 lety +47

      Twilight portrayed an abusive relationship as romantic, had a main character pretending to be native american when the actor wasn’t, and was written by someone who based one of the love interests on her own brother. Sims is a good, pretty unproblematic series of games with multiple iconic gothic and alt characters that tons of people remember by name even 22 years later. i see why they didn’t want to be associated with Twilight and i think there’s nothing weird or hypocritical about them then going on to put a song into Sims 3.

    • @skeleletonboi4533
      @skeleletonboi4533 Před 2 lety +109

      @@lithiumkid bro I didn't say it was weird or hypocritical, I said it makes me laugh. chill dude

    • @jeonghansupremacist4354
      @jeonghansupremacist4354 Před 2 lety +13

      @@lithiumkid tbh i just think at the time it felt weird for their frontman because, althought it was not as well know at the time as today, the concept of a vampire boyfriend and all that was based on mcr's concept and main vocalist. maybe today that would be another thing but at the time maybe he felt weird about it

    • @neonxvices
      @neonxvices Před rokem +32

      mcr also let glee do sing which is funny because the episode is about anthems and they should’ve done WTTBP

    • @crm1301
      @crm1301 Před rokem +26

      mcr also did a song for Yo Gabba Gabba

  • @janinex4541
    @janinex4541 Před 2 lety +1174

    Can we talk about Ryder opening up being sexually assaulted and everyone made fun of him, Will said NOTHING about it and it was never talked about again?🙈

    • @DoodleDoo2
      @DoodleDoo2 Před 2 lety +99

      Kitty said she understands (cuz she was also SAd) and how that’s not okay but everyone else made fun of him

    • @janinex4541
      @janinex4541 Před 2 lety +30

      @@DoodleDoo2 yeah but it was like the only relatable response and it was never talked about again🙈🙈🙈

    • @barbarachrist7718
      @barbarachrist7718 Před 2 lety +12

      Thanks that was the episode I stopped watching it went way too far

    • @barbarachrist7718
      @barbarachrist7718 Před 2 lety +14

      There is also an episode about dealing with suicide. Which is horrible at adressing the topic

    • @babybear3551
      @babybear3551 Před rokem +42

      They didn't even just make fun of him, they said he was "lucky"
      Disgusting.

  • @lilybrown5388
    @lilybrown5388 Před 3 lety +3970

    the only person who ever had to deal with the consequences of their actions was Quinn

    • @jana7359
      @jana7359 Před 3 lety +452

      I mean yes but also everyone forgot about her baby after a few episodes

    • @renee1309
      @renee1309 Před 3 lety +624

      At some point I felt like they just gave Quinn trauma/dramatic storylines just for kicks. They didn't know what to do with Quinn after S1.

    • @zoevillegas8331
      @zoevillegas8331 Před 3 lety +62

      Jana I would imagine they didn’t bring up the baby she gave away because it was a hard thing for Quinn

    • @cottagecheeselegs9718
      @cottagecheeselegs9718 Před 3 lety +439

      They ruined Quinn's character, because ryan murphy dont like the actress (dianna). Bcs Quinn supposed to be the mean girl but turned out to be the well developed character and everyone loves Quinn. But ryan hates her for that, so after season 1 ryan started to sabotage her character, the feud continued until Dianna couldn't take it anymore, She left the show after season 3 and came back only as guest stars

    • @paulworsnop7231
      @paulworsnop7231 Před 3 lety +29

      i mean yes, but also, no

  • @io1380
    @io1380 Před 3 lety +1145

    Glee is basically told from Rachel's point of view. Rachel's point of view is self-centered, cyclical, melodramatic, and mostly self-fulfilling fantasy. Exactly like a spoiled, egotistical teenager who doesn't understand why they can't do whatever they want. I knew so many theatre geeks who thought they were Rachel and also thought they could act like her.... and probably still do.

    • @nikeb4212
      @nikeb4212 Před 3 lety +92

      You're completely right! It also explains why so much time was spent on Rachel's silly "problems" but when other characters went through real trauma it was forgotten about within an episode because it either had nothing to do with Rachel or she wasn't there (e.g. the school shooting and Marley's eating disorder)

    • @aviparmy-lthatblinkedoncew774
      @aviparmy-lthatblinkedoncew774 Před 3 lety +21

      Like I literally remember girls who acted just like Rachel they were self-centered egotistical theater kids whi thought the world was revolved around white Broadway actors. I literally remember getting into an argument with a few theater kids in this ultimately broke my love of theater arguing about how Hamilton who is a white man shouldn’t be played by Hispanic or Latino actor because Hamilton was white even though Hamilton racepassed and could technically in today’s modern times be described as multi racial

    • @zachplayz8546
      @zachplayz8546 Před 3 lety +7

      @@aviparmy-lthatblinkedoncew774 The only reason Hamilton shouldn't be played by a white actor is because that would mean he wouldn't have been played by Lin

    • @HN-kr1nf
      @HN-kr1nf Před 3 lety +9

      @@aviparmy-lthatblinkedoncew774 lin manuel miranda is hispanic/latino but he's also white

    • @grahamkristensen9301
      @grahamkristensen9301 Před 3 lety +16

      @@aviparmy-lthatblinkedoncew774 You just made me think of Hamilton-centered episode of Glee. What did I ever do to you?

  • @justinmontana3710
    @justinmontana3710 Před 2 lety +1062

    On the point of how Glee handled its LGBT characters, the one standout memory I have from the show is the Teen Drinking episode where, when Blaine was questioning whether he might be Bisexual, Kurt's immediate response was, "Bisexual is term gay people use to tiptoe back into the closet", and every once in a while that sneaks up on me like being smacked in the back of the head with a rotting Mackerel.

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 Před rokem +196

      Idk if it's just me but it feels like something that Kurt as a character wouldn't say, like it feels out of character for him specifically. Like yeah ok maybe he's just saying it bc he's jealous or whatever, but even then that just felt like a bizarre and overly mean line coming from him.

    • @taylorgayhart9497
      @taylorgayhart9497 Před rokem +136

      That was the general attitude about bisexuality until recently, think Sex and the City when Carrie said “I'm not even sure bisexuality exists. I think it's just a layover on the way to Gaytown.” Men who were bi were seen as “easing into” being gay, and women who were bi were seen as performing their sexuality for male attention. It wasn’t really until the mid-2010s that bisexuality and pansexuality were more broadly accepted.

    • @engagingathena9965
      @engagingathena9965 Před rokem +95

      tbf i loved the ‘i’d say bye but i didn’t want to scare you’ line from that episode

    • @AmySay
      @AmySay Před rokem +27

      I genuinely blame this line for slamming me into a closet where i didn’t realize i was bisexual until after high school.

    • @nyxie2877
      @nyxie2877 Před rokem +5

      You have such a way with words

  • @RobLives4Love
    @RobLives4Love Před 2 lety +609

    this reminds me of one of my favorite Tumblr quotes of all time:
    just because a television show doesn't actively address a specific issue doesn't mean they're actively avoiding it either. you know what happens when you try to stuff every possible social debate under the sun into one show?
    you get glee.
    that's what happens.

    • @Lizzie-ve7kt
      @Lizzie-ve7kt Před rokem +34

      OMG THIS!! This is brilliant and should be copied and pasted as a reply to every Twitter rant of people overreacting to something being “problematic” because it didn’t explicit address every single social issue.

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat Před rokem +6

      exactly!! at least imo id prefer no/minimal representation to outright BAD representation lmao

    • @handsoap3346
      @handsoap3346 Před rokem +5

      Remember the school shooting episode where it was BECKY??😟

    • @grahamkristensen9301
      @grahamkristensen9301 Před 4 měsíci +3

      It reminds me when, after a particularly bad wave of school shootings, people were asking if Abbott Elementary was going to do a SS episode. Like... What's that gonna do to solve the issue??

  • @graciesaunders7418
    @graciesaunders7418 Před 3 lety +791

    Remember when Ryder had enough trust in the glee club to share that he had been molested and Artie and Sam acted like Ryder should BE GRATEFUL that a "hot teenage girl had played with his junk" and it was never brought up again and they faced ZERO CONSEQUENCES for it??? It still makes me angry to this day

    • @EuroMIX2
      @EuroMIX2 Před 3 lety +61

      Unfortunate reflection of reality. There are even women who think that men cannot refuse sex from a woman, and if he does he's either gay or she's going to force herself on him anyway.

    • @takewhataway
      @takewhataway Před 3 lety +12

      That's real life.

    • @biazacha
      @biazacha Před 3 lety +9

      That still what happens one decade later... no farfetched, just handled poorly.

    • @mtayl0r
      @mtayl0r Před 3 lety +5

      I KNOW. THAT MADE ME SO MAD

    • @Anna-jw4vq
      @Anna-jw4vq Před 3 lety +27

      True! Kevin McHale also addressed this a while back and said that it was an awful scene

  • @GwenChan7
    @GwenChan7 Před 3 lety +2143

    can we agree that they did tina so dirty giving her an unnecessary fake stutter, her rude attitude and backwards character development. Really doing the asian representation dirty. Mike Chang's character development was amazing why couldn't they do that with Tina's?

    • @DeeL3
      @DeeL3 Před 3 lety +142

      . . .Mike Chang has character development?? When did that happen!?

    • @chrysanna8896
      @chrysanna8896 Před 3 lety +38

      @@DeeL3 When he argued with his dad about being a dancer and stuff

    • @DeeL3
      @DeeL3 Před 3 lety +58

      @@chrysanna8896 yea. . .no. That's not character development.

    • @chrysanna8896
      @chrysanna8896 Před 3 lety +35

      @@DeeL3 At first he was too afraid to chase his dream and then after that storyline he got into a dance school and his father accepted him

    • @amirmerrity3048
      @amirmerrity3048 Před 3 lety +75

      @@chrysanna8896 Not development. All of that happened in 1 episode. The pure definition of RUSHED.

  • @Robbity
    @Robbity Před rokem +261

    As a ex-show choir kid, you could TELL who the Glee kids were. The ones who joined because they liked the show and quit at the end of the semester.
    Some of the Glee kids stayed though, and they were incredible

  • @hollieparsons267
    @hollieparsons267 Před 2 lety +679

    100% agree that Burt is the best character in the entire show

    • @meeriann
      @meeriann Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah but his own son was sexually harassing Finn and made him uncomfortable and Burt was just screaming at Finn when he said few bad words? The words were bad, don't get me wrong. However they were about THINGS and not about Kurt himself. Go and watch the episode if you want.
      Kurt didn't suffer ANY circumstances. I always found that unfair.

    • @rebeccag.1016
      @rebeccag.1016 Před 2 lety +40

      ​@@meeriann but there is an episode later when burt learns the truth and yells at Kurt.

    • @jessicamattes4208
      @jessicamattes4208 Před 2 lety +44

      Not to mention, I'm pretty sure Burt and Carol is the best/healthiest romantic relationship in the show

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 Před rokem +2

      And coach beiste!!

    • @calmbbaer
      @calmbbaer Před rokem

      @@rebeccag.1016 - And as we all know the most suitable punishment for sustained sexual harassment is a brief yell. Makes it all better!

  • @sighcantthinkofaname
    @sighcantthinkofaname Před 3 lety +4266

    "Do you really want to see Glee do tiktok dances months after they were relevant?"
    That sounds awful, I absolutely want to see it.

    • @kpbevan_904
      @kpbevan_904 Před 3 lety +227

      Can’t wait for Addison Rae to pop up as a special guest star lmao

    • @emilynichol1191
      @emilynichol1191 Před 3 lety +92

      yeah tbh i never watched Glee cause it was good, I watched cause it was trash so Glee TikTok dances sounds great to me lol

    • @bwnnie
      @bwnnie Před 3 lety +57

      @@emilynichol1191 lmao I used to think it was such a great show but at the same time I had to skip lots of parts because I couldn't stand cringing at it

    • @stevenmulvihill6434
      @stevenmulvihill6434 Před 3 lety +4

      I would watch it for the cringe

    • @peytonl6134
      @peytonl6134 Před 3 lety +2

      BAHAH EXACTLY EHAT I WAS THINKING

  • @geniehossain3738
    @geniehossain3738 Před 2 lety +4427

    It’s hilarious that Riverdale tries to be the bad, cringey version of Glee, when Glee is already the bad, cringey version of Glee.

    • @mikemorro140
      @mikemorro140 Před 2 lety +245

      Yet somehow Glee did that better

    • @criptastical
      @criptastical Před 2 lety +106

      I fucking wheezed at this comment, that should honestly be the tagline for Glee
      Glee: the cringey version of Glee

    • @thrownstair
      @thrownstair Před 2 lety +40

      That makes Riverdale cringe².

    • @bm7662
      @bm7662 Před 2 lety +5

      @@thrownstair lmao yes

    • @YupOkayThx
      @YupOkayThx Před 2 lety +9

      There's a group musical number where KJ Apa dances and does this weird shoulder shimmy that I will never be able to unsee. For ease of access, I'm adding the link here: czcams.com/video/lUyelSTKRME/video.html

  • @kingnorkaiser
    @kingnorkaiser Před 2 lety +701

    The most egregious “no consequences of their actions” part of Glee for me is Kurt attending approximately 4 days of his Vogue internship and then basically never going back again, with a little insert by Sarah Jessica Parker saying yeah it’s chill you’re so talented you don’t even have to come to work

  • @rileywest1167
    @rileywest1167 Před rokem +165

    The troubletones did nothing but slay. They have my complete support. Their songs always ate

    • @mela1736
      @mela1736 Před 10 měsíci +8

      YES! good song choices and most importantly Naya and Amber singing basically everything 🤩

  • @candiceluke9454
    @candiceluke9454 Před 3 lety +5685

    Glee finishing before Hamilton happened was probably a good thing

    • @ivyeorii
      @ivyeorii Před 3 lety +626

      oh god can you IMAGINE Will trying to rap guns and ships

    • @lydiavalentino
      @lydiavalentino Před 3 lety +276

      @@ivyeorii I think he'd probably attempt "Guns and Ships", give up, then do the *entirety* of "My Shot" while everyone looks at him like a fucking idiot

    • @catherineb.
      @catherineb. Před 3 lety +119

      As much as I love Glee, I absolutely agree with you here

    • @tori2dles
      @tori2dles Před 3 lety +84

      Yeah, imagining them doing Hamilton is both cringey & sacrilegious.

    • @paulinathompson1239
      @paulinathompson1239 Před 3 lety +146

      Jonathan Groff LITERALLY played George the 3rd

  • @cattledogandstaffy
    @cattledogandstaffy Před 3 lety +2914

    Not many people talk about how after Cory's death, Sam was basically made to be a discount Finn. They deadass even put him in the same clothes that Cory wore as Finn, and had him take the same path that Finn would have. This was so apparent to me and still disgusts me to this day.

    • @niki6d
      @niki6d Před 3 lety +270

      CaptainJacFrost It totally ruined the storyline for Sam and Mercedes. ☹️

    • @robynrichmond0
      @robynrichmond0 Před 3 lety +363

      I admire what they were trying to do with Sam (the show needed a strong ‘everyman’ lead with Finn gone and Sam seemed like a good fit). I actually think Chord stepped up to the plate pretty well but by Season Six... when he become the coach of New Directions at the end, yeah it was blatantly apparent they just gave him Finn’s storyline. Hell, they even had time for a brief romance with him and Rachel!

    • @ayushi437
      @ayushi437 Před 3 lety +76

      im sorry they put chord in the same clothes that cory wore as finn- jesus

    • @annabelcrescibene4257
      @annabelcrescibene4257 Před 3 lety

      ThatCatVal Rodrick*

    • @uli_Gio
      @uli_Gio Před 3 lety +20

      Yeah I find it really bad when Sam kissed Rachel in season 6 or 5 ( can't remember which one ). And it also sucked because since we never got a conclusion of what happens to Cory/Fun, as to Rachel just moving passed it without really going back to her roots but goes bad as the seasons continue

  • @nic9511
    @nic9511 Před 2 lety +348

    Santanas cover of Smooth Criminal exist yes and I have never been more thankful for it

    • @davidluna7237
      @davidluna7237 Před rokem +20

      It’s iconic

    • @nyx6903
      @nyx6903 Před rokem +12

      It's why I started watching glee lol

    • @violetlavi2207
      @violetlavi2207 Před 10 měsíci +9

      She and Grant Gustin truly made that something special, and I LOVE IT

    • @lilllin9158
      @lilllin9158 Před 2 měsíci

      It’s amazing and the cellos are actually a band and they made amazing covers of rock pop classical and a lot more Musik 2cellos if anyone wants to look them up

  • @endercupid
    @endercupid Před rokem +75

    him never using Chord Overstreets real name or characters name is hilarious and made this video 10x better

  • @itshannah6048
    @itshannah6048 Před 3 lety +2161

    MicTheSnare: craps all over glee as a show
    Me, a glee fan: understandable, can’t argue with you
    Mic: implies Glee’s rendition of “smooth criminal” is bad
    Me: now here’s what we ain’t gonna do

    • @4dultw1thj0b
      @4dultw1thj0b Před 3 lety +32

      I don't think he was necessarily saying it was bad, just inexplicable?

    • @yourstruly9013
      @yourstruly9013 Před 3 lety +265

      I was on board because he pointed out Valerie as a stand-out performance, but dissing Smooth Criminal with 2 Cellos is inexcusable.

    • @courtally
      @courtally Před 3 lety +57

      Yeah that was a great number

    • @dudapanqueca
      @dudapanqueca Před 3 lety +51

      smooth criminal was great, thought the same

    • @MEDDlNO
      @MEDDlNO Před 3 lety +98

      Smooth Criminal was ONE of the few Several BEST covers in the whole show, it’s different, and the number was great, also because Grant Gustin’s a hottie...

  • @QuestionableLifeChoices
    @QuestionableLifeChoices Před 3 lety +4578

    burt hummel is the best character because he's the most consistently grounded and most real. and the actor did a great job, too, obviously

    • @graciesaunders7418
      @graciesaunders7418 Před 3 lety +298

      He's one of my fav tv dad's ever! At first I thought he was going to be super homophobic and awful but he was soooo accepting of Kurt

    • @ReeniEspino
      @ReeniEspino Před 3 lety +196

      The Hummel men are the best part of the show, hands down.

    • @zahrah8512
      @zahrah8512 Před 3 lety +86

      I know I really thought he would be super homophobic but was way more accepting than I thought he’d be,like way more than most people are in the early 2000s one of the best character hands down he’d be way better if he had more plot and more screen time than 10 mins max

    • @Laramaria2
      @Laramaria2 Před 3 lety +32

      Burt is flawless! Love him!

    • @whish67
      @whish67 Před 3 lety +26

      @@ReeniEspino We stan the Hummel men, hands down :)

  • @giladadadada1614
    @giladadadada1614 Před 2 lety +129

    sue sylvester bring a hardcore barb is the most in character thing i’ve ever witnessed

  • @AF-ue4ny
    @AF-ue4ny Před 2 lety +374

    if you watched Glee and didn't hate every character at least once you didn't watch it right

  • @anniestjohn3494
    @anniestjohn3494 Před 3 lety +1125

    remember when ryder told the glee club that he got sexually assulted and everyone in the glee club lauphed at him. and it never got resolved.

    • @ineedsleep1877
      @ineedsleep1877 Před 3 lety +50

      Ik that’s so messed up

    • @maggiewalsh3590
      @maggiewalsh3590 Před 3 lety +26

      OMG I forgot about that!

    • @rafaela.7414
      @rafaela.7414 Před 3 lety +26

      right? I was so mad

    • @gia.marie2002
      @gia.marie2002 Před 3 lety +58

      That scene made me sob and made me so mad, as someone who’s been through something like that, it was really hard for me to see the glee members (mainly Artie and Sam) make a joke out of it. And it was never brought up again, which was actually so sad cause Ryder could’ve had a much more amazing storyline. Ryder’s voice was amazing and that scene and the song, Everybody Hurts, makes me sob my eyes out everytime I watch it!

    • @lorens6496
      @lorens6496 Před 3 lety +8

      that was SO FUCKED UP

  • @queenkatara7861
    @queenkatara7861 Před 3 lety +1776

    You forgot one of the worst parts of the school shooting episode:
    Ryder: Hey I just wanted to tell everyone I got molested when I was 11 by my babysitter.
    Artie and Sam: Wow that’s so cool man. Getting abused by an older woman is hot. We are going to completely ignore how bad that sounds, never apologize, and suffer no consequences for this other than Will saying “hey that’s not cool man.”
    Kitty: I am a survivor as well, Ryder. I haven’t been able to share this and it’s hard coming forward.
    Ryder: Lol I just told you all that because I’m trying to figure out who’s catfishing me. Nothing else about this is important. Just figuring out who my catfisher is so I can have a mini arc in the finale.

    • @liamdevries789
      @liamdevries789 Před 3 lety +65

      That was in Lights Out episode.

    • @ashleighdean6943
      @ashleighdean6943 Před 3 lety +163

      THIS ANGERED ME SO MUCH OMGG
      Like WUT? You can't bring something like molestation up, and not talk about it again. And the fact that Artie and Sam thought it was cool/hot? It angered me so much, it dishonours real victims and gives the idea that molestation is something 'good' ( i say that as the way that Sam and Artie were talking, it was almost like they were jealous of Ryder).

    • @Mo-qt9ni
      @Mo-qt9ni Před 3 lety +70

      Yea they didn’t do it properly ✨at all✨ , but they were trying to show how people brush off men’s assault. Even Ryder didn’t take his experience seriously. It would’ve been more impactful it we saw how that experience affected him long term over the show, but then it wouldn’t be glee.

    • @borednerd5767
      @borednerd5767 Před 3 lety +61

      @@ashleighdean6943 it was a valid plotline since many do undermine the experiences of male victims... but the fact that they never learnt what they did wrong makes it so so bad

    • @softboy5573
      @softboy5573 Před 3 lety +51

      That had so much potential for a strong relationship between Ryder and Kitty as well as a new understanding on why Kitty is such an awful character in the beginning but they literally ignored it like what??

  • @rocketgeek96
    @rocketgeek96 Před 2 lety +732

    I will say this for Glee: the Bohemian Rhapsody sequence is top tier editing, and probably one of the all-time best visual spectacles ever seen on TV in the 21st century. To. This. Day. I still, even when watching it out of context on CZcams, get goosebumps every single time I watch it.
    It definitively shows how the rival show choir beat the New Directions simultaneously with the very reasons as to why ND is a better group of people by having them all show up for Beth's birth, all while _some-fuckin-how_ breathing new life into the greatest pop song ever written.
    Ryan Murphy's greatest achievement. Bar none.

    • @kickflipindi
      @kickflipindi Před 2 lety +3

      All except Rachel

    • @calliopedollhouse259
      @calliopedollhouse259 Před 2 lety +23

      @@kickflipindi i liked Rachel in season 1-2 because she was actually hardworking while being very very obnoxious but also kind of entertaining
      Then yknow

    • @novelle.27
      @novelle.27 Před rokem +2

      yep, I think he deserves praise for his creativity on that

    • @diyit0
      @diyit0 Před rokem +2

      No.

    • @naima9818
      @naima9818 Před rokem +4

      i agree whole heartedly but calling bohemian rhapsody pop is CRAZY

  • @kittyschooley
    @kittyschooley Před 2 lety +280

    I had a friend who said the show should have ended with "The Quarterback." After streaming the show, I realized, I had pretty much stopped watching after that. Cory was absolutely the glue.
    Just a note, though, when I re-watched the very first episode, I cried when Cory came on screen.
    Oh, yeah, and after being mandated at work to go to "violence in the workplace" trainings, Sue would not have been able to continue working - she would have had to clean up her act or leave. No comments on that!

  • @clarold
    @clarold Před 3 lety +7230

    Kinda upset how you didn’t mention that Sam’s character changed every season. They did not know what to do with that character.

    • @tutifruity1154
      @tutifruity1154 Před 3 lety +168

      oh god true

    • @thenvie
      @thenvie Před 3 lety +568

      oh god I just remembered that they had originally written him in to be a love interest for Kurt, but then Darren Criss was a thing so they...????/f//f/fdsfdfshsd what WAS that character. also Tonight Tonight??????? became popular because his brother? glee? glee fans? whatthe

    • @ellyxroses
      @ellyxroses Před 3 lety +732

      Yeah this is so true. I also was thinking about season 3 when Sam was a STRIPPER??? HE WAS LIKE 17 WTF.
      They literally changed Sam’s character each season.

    • @yozura8056
      @yozura8056 Před 3 lety +398

      im now on season 4 and his character is like literally on different drugs for every episode

    • @thatshygirlinclass8404
      @thatshygirlinclass8404 Před 3 lety +392

      or like when he became this weird hyper kid and starts dating nurses in season five.

  • @thecrazygainerguy
    @thecrazygainerguy Před 3 lety +725

    Every couple of months my brain suddenly remembers the 'Let's have a kiki' scene and I really wish it would stop that.

  • @879SCSP
    @879SCSP Před 2 lety +447

    Glee and Tumblr go arm in arm in the fact that they both are items of their time that really make a person cringe when looking back, but are so connected to our formative years that a lot of us would fight to death to protect it

    • @ninjaartist1235
      @ninjaartist1235 Před rokem

      You might wanna let it die

    • @879SCSP
      @879SCSP Před rokem +5

      @@ninjaartist1235 Not unless I can kill it first

  • @wompwomp5327
    @wompwomp5327 Před 2 lety +80

    As a fluent Korean speaker, that piss poor rendition of Gangnam style will forever haunt me.

  • @asherfriedman877
    @asherfriedman877 Před 3 lety +3637

    here's the thing all gleeks acknowledge that glee is a terrible show and love it anyway

    • @meg3938
      @meg3938 Před 3 lety +192

      Ya i feel like no fandom hates itself more

    • @sairuhbby
      @sairuhbby Před 3 lety +106

      no one hates things like the people who love said things

    • @livingwithgray1168
      @livingwithgray1168 Před 3 lety +12

      Omg this is so goddamn true. Lmao!

    • @flowerhobi1673
      @flowerhobi1673 Před 3 lety +44

      Oh man this comment just sucker punched me in the face i havent heard the term GLEEKS since 2014 tumblr i forgot how huge gleeks were too oml

    • @idek7438
      @idek7438 Před 3 lety +47

      Yeah it's trash but it's our trash

  • @gumballz.9259
    @gumballz.9259 Před 3 lety +1932

    The problem with Glee is literally Rachel (and the actor who played her). I was so sick of Glee constantly revolving around her while pushing mediocre or downright absurd storylines to literally every other character. The later seasons feel like a fever dream most of the time.

    • @1rockcrawford
      @1rockcrawford Před 3 lety +255

      Kurt, Santana, and Mercedes especially, got pushed into B-Plots for Rachel's boring repetitive plotline, and post-high school, it became abundantly obvious. Hearing from the cast about all of her bullying/hazing, it's not surprising she ate up much of the showtime; once the show took off, I don't doubt she threatened to walk if they didn't center things around her, as she was the main.

    • @beryla4979
      @beryla4979 Před 3 lety +49

      So true her character is boring and wasted screen time which could've gone to others other, everytime she had a solo I'd skip it

    • @elizaharrison8853
      @elizaharrison8853 Před 3 lety +110

      the fact that she could only sing in one genre and we were supposed to believe that she was the ONLY one in glee meant to be successful? okay

    • @camillastimemachine
      @camillastimemachine Před 3 lety +100

      mieliany they did Dianna Agron SO DIRTY (and Quinn was also so much more interesting than Rachel, I don’t understand why they didn’t keep her around for longer)

    • @Shalalacls
      @Shalalacls Před 3 lety +20

      Absolutely, that's why it would have done the show so good to just up and change the whole cast after season 3. They just gave Rachel more and more space without the more captivating characters and storylines to dilute her.

  • @neutralman9124
    @neutralman9124 Před 2 lety +219

    Lea Michele's performance in "The Quarterback" is one of the greatest performances in television history. Her conversation with Will is devastating to such a degree that I can't watch it anymore.

    • @Rainingsunshine346
      @Rainingsunshine346 Před rokem +11

      Agreed. That episode is just so raw and emotional. However I don’t like to make myself cry so I’ll only watch it if I’m in a sad mood

  • @yurtyahearne9044
    @yurtyahearne9044 Před 2 lety +102

    Tina's character disolvement from the end of season 3 is a symptom of Ryan Murphy being totally unable to write a shy/introverted character or a character with lower confidence and self esteem

  • @Archetrixxx
    @Archetrixxx Před 3 lety +3356

    Santana was reprimanded by Will for the way she reacted to being outed, but Finn was never chastized for outing her. It sucked because I loved her storyline but she definitely wasn't treated like Kurt.

    • @ariannahoward4554
      @ariannahoward4554 Před 3 lety +86

      Exactly! I was so angry when it happened 😠

    • @R34G4N
      @R34G4N Před 2 lety +249

      because ryan murphy has sympathy for kurt, being a gay man himself. that’s why it was written with such care. santana got none of that because he doesn’t care about lesbians/wlw. it’s clear too with how brittany being bi is treated mostly as a result of her hyper sexuality

    • @sanaxxxi3568
      @sanaxxxi3568 Před 2 lety +15

      Remember the dodgeball thing the way Finn the one started it and yet will and Burt make a whole video about Santana being gay and made sue release it. the slap from Santana to Finn always worth it to me.

    • @soaribb32
      @soaribb32 Před 2 lety +8

      It's fucking awful.

    • @asa9492
      @asa9492 Před 2 lety +50

      Omg I just started Glee for the first time and I thought I was the only one that felt that there was favouritism with Kurt's homosexuality vs Santana's like?? Glad I'm not the only one

  • @morganmarsh1276
    @morganmarsh1276 Před 3 lety +649

    The show acted like Quinn had everything Rachel didn't but in the long run, she just got knocked up twice; once by puck and once by a truck.

  • @kmjc1213
    @kmjc1213 Před rokem +360

    There's a new Glee podcast hosted by Jenna Ushkowitz (Tina) and Kevin McHale (Artie). They interviewed Ryan Murphy in the first two episodes, and he said that if he could go back and do it again, he probably would have cancelled the show after Cory's death. He admitted that they filmed The Quarterback way too soon and that it wasn't good for any of them to go back to set so quickly. Kevin said that he and other cast members would occasionally just walk off set during takes to cry. I haven't watched that episode since it aired but I remember absolutely hating it. Glee was my happy place, and to see the characters and cast grieve so openly was not something that I (or they) needed.
    Also the last two seasons were just awful. They completely ruined so many beloved side characters by giving them horrible storylines (namely Blaine and Tina). They also spent four seasons using Coach Beiste's character to show us that being a woman could look however you wanted it to look, only to totally turn their backs on that and say 'a masculine woman must actually be a trans man.' Seriously, by the end of the show my fanfictions were better than what came out of that writers' room.

    • @froginatub
      @froginatub Před rokem +46

      I'd agree with almost all of this, but I would gently push back on what you say about Bieste. I am a masculine woman myself, with a number of friends who are trans guys!
      A lot of them did think they were butch lesbians at first- it's a pretty natural assumption. It doesn't mean all butches are secret trans men, of course (I'm not) but it's certainly not not unrealistic! I also think it's a little unfair to pit masc women and trans guys "against" each other in this way, as if representation for trans men is a "loss" for Butch women in some way. I'm a "rising waters raise all ships" type. More acceptance of trans people will mean more acceptance of gender nonconformity; which is a win for masc women!
      Of course it would have been nice if Glee (or any show lol) had more masc women or trans characters on it, so they could all stand alone as characters rather than having to represent whole demographics, but I don't have any problem with the storyline itself!

    • @calmbbaer
      @calmbbaer Před rokem +14

      Agreed about Beiste. It's probably the most Glee thing in Glee: Totally sacrificing canon and character development in the name of drama and agenda. It reminds me of Ally McBeal where Ling tells Fish that she doesn't like sex because it gets her too sweaty. Then, maybe an episode or two later, she tells him that she actually REALLY likes sex, as long as she gets REALLY sweaty. This is supposed to be a funny, character-building surprise, but it comes off as the writers just regretting and changing their mind about something and not respecting the audience enough to write within the limitations that they themselves set. Which, again, was Glee's defining characteristic since episode two.
      And, as for the politics of it, if Glee cared about the struggles of butch women, it would have made a different character into a trans man.
      And there's no way the money train of Glee would stop just because someone died, no matter what Murphy says now that there are no consequences for him saying so. It may sound callous, but, hey, that's Glee. I find it a total non-coincidence that a show that cared more about drama, agenda, quantity, and tokenism than characters, people, quality, non-toxicity, and compassion, had so many cast members who died young. You can tell the ALFs of the world - dated and cringe on the outside, chaotic and traumatic on the inside - from shows that are timeless and launch tremendous careers, like that other McKinley High show, Freaks and Geeks. To the detriment of its members, its longevity, and society, Glee was an ALF.

    • @beryla4979
      @beryla4979 Před rokem

      Agreed with everything there

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat Před rokem +8

      honestly i get why bc the death of a major actor obviously screwed w production but glee just gets so. weird during and after the quarterback if that makes sense lmao. and also why tf wasnt dianna agron there???

  • @taylorgayhart9497
    @taylorgayhart9497 Před rokem +61

    The problem with Rachel Berry is that she has no character development, had she learned from her mistakes and grown to be a better person, people would have liked her. But if there is truth behind her character being inspired by her true personality, then I guess it’s true to life. Rachel Berry is proof the only way to make it in “show business” is to be ruthless.

    • @SuperPianogirl123
      @SuperPianogirl123 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Rachel would have developments and then would immediately backtrack. She started to view the others as teammates, then would undercut them for solos and used them as an excuse to get rid of Sunshine. Then she started to value Santana’s friendships and push for her to go for opportunities and then attacked her violently for going for the understudy role

  • @Flower-Haven
    @Flower-Haven Před 3 lety +3162

    Ryan Murphy let Heather Morris and Naya Rivera choose their wedding song for their characters so they chose Hey Ya as it combined both of their names.

    • @allyrose9494
      @allyrose9494 Před 3 lety +493

      Okay that’s legit really cute

    • @ReeniEspino
      @ReeniEspino Před 3 lety +194

      It had been their ship name from the start... their friendship went beyond everything and they wanted to acknowledge fandom (also w the OTP hats).

    • @FormalFilmsProductions
      @FormalFilmsProductions Před 2 lety +10

      Cuuute

    • @kevinwillems8720
      @kevinwillems8720 Před 2 lety +11

      Cute, still ironic

    • @R34G4N
      @R34G4N Před 2 lety +39

      god i miss naya and heya so much

  • @sigh824
    @sigh824 Před 3 lety +1122

    So what ur telling me is that season 6 is basically those last two weeks of school when everyone just gives up and does whatever the fuck they want

    • @chocolatequente2191
      @chocolatequente2191 Před 3 lety +31

      Exactly

    • @AnnaVaubel
      @AnnaVaubel Před 2 lety +2

      For the end of the school year I was still online so I just pretended to do my work for the last month and never turned anything in
      Alt east I was the only one to actually do that cursive book

  • @erylaria398
    @erylaria398 Před 2 lety +216

    "When it was good, there was nothing like it" sums it up very well. I was in my mid 20s when i watched glee and the teen drama and ridiculous story lines were grating at that point. BUT. Having been in some form of choir/chorus or musical theater group all through my time at school, when they were on stage and they hit those big notes, and you could see the emotion on the faces and hear the harmonies welling up like tsunamis - i cried. A LOT. If performing is your thing, then there is NOTHING like it. And glee reminded me of "my time in the spotlight" (if you can call it that lol).
    Yeah, it's ridiculous, over the top, silly, insane, exaggerated, just straight up DUMB sometimes. And viewed from today, the tokenism is just... oof. But the core of the show - people being passionate about music and performing - is something i will always be able to come back to and hysterically cry over. (Because i did not make it as a singer, like, at all. Singing makes me sad now. But glee reminds me of when i was still able yo dream, like the characters.)

    • @meeriann
      @meeriann Před 2 lety +5

      I'm not a performer but I fully agree with you!!
      I cry when I hear someone singing from the bottom of their hearts. Ughh just watch Death Note Kwang Ho Hong singing.... jeeeshhhh.

    • @tvpivm
      @tvpivm Před rokem +2

      i fully agree

  • @lesliesackey2012
    @lesliesackey2012 Před 2 lety +109

    Not only does Frozen bring up Idina Menzel and that parallel universe, it also brings up Jonathan Groff and all of those parallel universe questions!

    • @madelynstoltzfus
      @madelynstoltzfus Před 5 měsíci +1

      I thought of this too! Glad I wasn’t the only one.

  • @lillyfaulkner7325
    @lillyfaulkner7325 Před 3 lety +2617

    I hate how Kurt had a flipping amazing audition and blows everyone away, and Rachel chokes, but Rachel is the one to get in. Rachel is always succeeding, regardless of what she does, and Kurt is always failing, no matter how good he is. It's incredibly frustrating for me, both as someone who loves Kurt and from an unbiased POV.

    • @evetaylor7704
      @evetaylor7704 Před 3 lety +151

      for real! It’s so unfair on kurt. let’s not forget he only got into NYADA because he was a friend of Rachel’s. And let’s not forget how the writers made him throw the diva off in season 1. like seriously. CMON!!! We needed a strong actor like Chris to break the male stereotype of having a deep voice and being masculine, and hitting that high note!!! (plus a really dark fact about this: when Chris was in high school he asked to sing this song in choir, and his teachers said no because he’s a boy. Ryan Murphy found out about this and decided to make this episode about this. Ryan Murphy is known for bullying Chris by bringing up things like this via Kurt.)

    • @lillyfaulkner7325
      @lillyfaulkner7325 Před 3 lety +70

      @@evetaylor7704 I knew about that! Like, maybe he doesn't want to think of that again, Ryan? I don't know Chris's true thoughts on that matter, but I don't think I'd be very happy. If Chris was okay with that, then like, okay. But I don't understand why Chris was not fully appreciated by people. He was such a talented actor, and writer, and he had many other talents that weren't even shown on the show. The writers were just unfair to both Chris, and Kurt. I wanted to see him win, and not on other people's conditions. Kurt's character had a huge amount of potential for a legendary triumph and I think the set up just led us to a very unfortunate disappointment. I still adore Kurt, but why'd they do him dirty like that?

    • @evetaylor7704
      @evetaylor7704 Před 3 lety +77

      @@lillyfaulkner7325 precisely! many people believe it’s because Ryan Murphy is notorious for having bullied Chris through the character of Kurt (sourced from Naya Rivera’s tweets and news articles) so i believe Ryan did him dirty like this because he bullied Chris so didn’t give his character anything to cherish like the others. One example of Ryan’s bullying (i think most people know this but still) was when Naya was forced to stand there after the Britanna proposal and insult kurt/chris for roughly 4 minutes straight. Naya said in tweets and chris mentioned in some interviews that after every take of that scene, chris had to leave the set and cry :( before coming back on. Naya said she felt so uncomfortable and unhappy filming this scene and felt obliged to apologise to Chris when this was Ryan’s doing! Naya has stated that Ryan bullied Chris in ways like this throughout the entire show, some less obvious than others (like the defying gravity incident) but i believe that Ryan’s bullying of Chris meant that he took stuff away from this character, such as killer solos and character credit. I think Ryan was out of order for doing this, and personally i do not understand why he even wrote Chris into glee if all he was going to do was A) bully him through the character of Kurt. B) Take away everything Kurt came close to achieving, such as a Klaine wedding that Klaine shippers waited a whole season and year for (ik the Britanna-Klaine wedding happened and yes it’s my fav glee scene, but i mean an individual Klaine wedding, rather than a shared wedding with another couple) and C) Just sideline him all the time in the first three seasons! I think it was really unfair for Ryan to do this to such a sweet person who had gone through so much, but what irks me more is that Ryan used his weird hatred towards Chris and reflected it in Kurt, adding in snarky little remarks and lines that were, in fact, meant to hurt Chris and make him feel upset and reminded that he is different to most people. :(

    • @lillyfaulkner7325
      @lillyfaulkner7325 Před 3 lety +48

      @@evetaylor7704 OMG! I knew about both Chris and Naya being uncomfortable about that scene but somehow I missed that Chris had to cry. That makes me really sad. That scene was really gross. Like I get as an actor insults based on your looks, voice, and habits are naturally going to come your way, but that scene was deliberately making fun of his real insecurities, for example his smile. I don't pretend to know who Chris is but that's nasty! Yuck. And Chris was bullied so like, double ew.
      Also, I, as a Klaine shipper, was also disappointed in the double wedding. Like, I wanted a wedding focused on my favorite couple, and while I really like Brittana, it just took away focus. I was very mad about how they ruined Klaine, they had a pretty good romance going and then Blaine goes OOC and decides to cheat? They were definitely the most serious couple in Glee! It's not believable and it's honestly frustrating.
      And yes, why would you write someone into a show, LITERALLY write a whole new character in for someone, and then trash it like that? It makes no sense. Who deserved the bashing? Lea/Rachel. Who got it? Chris/Kurt. I can still appreciate some of Kurt's arch and all, but like...
      Another thing was that in interviews now, Chris does not seem like he's happy he was in Glee, which is just sad. I think one time, he (albeit indirectly) apologized for his role on Glee? He is one of the cast members that would refuse to do a reboot, not that I blame him, and one time he quoted Dolly Parton and basically said though he does not regret his memories, he would not relive them. Referring to Glee.
      It just makes me sad as one of his fans that he was so mistreated. And I hate that that sounds like me pretending to know him and know what happened because I don't, but from what I see, it was not fair.
      (Whew! Sorry about these long replies, I'm just a fangirl.)

    • @theanonymous1606
      @theanonymous1606 Před 3 lety +33

      I read 10 words before I liked your comment. They did Kurt dirty, especially considering how funny and unique he was, they could've made him less of a stereotype and given him some credit for how talented he was.

  • @Lo0serx3
    @Lo0serx3 Před 3 lety +699

    you missed Rachel sending Sunshine to a crackhouse in season 2, but with how much bad shit she does can't blame you.

    • @jareddelacruz192
      @jareddelacruz192 Před 3 lety +1

      Lol, so true... hahaha

    • @AleciaFluffyPresents
      @AleciaFluffyPresents Před 3 lety +10

      Good in and off the show. You gotta love consistency.

    • @AleciaFluffyPresents
      @AleciaFluffyPresents Před 3 lety +11

      Well, I was drunk when I wrote this. I meant "*Bad on* and off the show". Thank you person who liked it for making me aware of my mistake and being able to correct it.

    • @maddisonle-guier1112
      @maddisonle-guier1112 Před 3 lety +19

      To defend Rachel, it wasn’t an ACTIVE crack house

  • @adaidhfitz
    @adaidhfitz Před 2 lety +146

    i actually really liked santana's storyline about being a lesbian because 1 its rare that lesbians get any representation, 2 she was experiencing a lot of internalized homophobia which i related to a lot and had never seen portrayed before and 3 i had also never seen an accurate (sort off, the tv thing was weird) portrayal of what being outed is like before, which is something that happened to me in school so i really liked that :) . There were some things tho like how she just forgave finn after because he sang a song.

    • @sylviakane8155
      @sylviakane8155 Před 7 měsíci +2

      FACTSSSSS

    • @LOVESICKBOY224
      @LOVESICKBOY224 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yeah. Been outed as gay in my hs and it's horrible. Someone used that against me because they hated me. Though the circumstances weren't completely their fault, as I had caused it, but it isn't great to experience. Students wouldn't only avoid me like I'm some freak, but teachers would as well.

    • @t.l.5597
      @t.l.5597 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@LOVESICKBOY224it wasn’t your fault.

  • @KristylikeKrisT
    @KristylikeKrisT Před 2 lety +76

    Watching Naya perform if I die young is too much now, rest easy you incredible powerhouse of a woman.

  • @xCookieCowx
    @xCookieCowx Před 3 lety +414

    My favourite plot point that was introduced and forgotten - Kurt finds out his dad has cancer in Season 4 Episode 10, and it isn't mentioned again until EPISODE 21

    • @ReeniEspino
      @ReeniEspino Před 3 lety +26

      That is the only redeeming thing about that crazy awful Christmas episode -- that Burt doesn't have cancer.

    • @b0bduncan
      @b0bduncan Před 3 lety

      a couple episodes later, a doctor says that burt doesn’t have cancer anymore

    • @maffieduran
      @maffieduran Před 3 lety +2

      That felt like when in "The Room" Claudette revealing she has cancer and it never being brought up again.

  • @rjnoriega9726
    @rjnoriega9726 Před 3 lety +2940

    This is not hyperbole: this vid is a masterpiece.

    • @TenisJr
      @TenisJr Před 3 lety +40

      Practically every video he makes is top notch. Really, he's amazing.

    • @aadityabhattacharya
      @aadityabhattacharya Před 3 lety +20

      I haven't seen a single second of Glee but I have seen this video twice

    • @eggressive_
      @eggressive_ Před 3 lety +8

      This brings me so much memory

    • @Shalalacls
      @Shalalacls Před 3 lety +45

      This is one of the most complete analysis of the Glee phenomenon I have ever seen. Too many people nowadays simply label is as dated and cringeworthy, it's nice that someone tries to understand why people liked it instead.

    • @Priv-rb3ow
      @Priv-rb3ow Před 3 lety +4

      Praise

  • @meganlinart948
    @meganlinart948 Před 2 lety +143

    This really makes you appreciate teen dramas like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, where consequences are the backbone of the entire series where everything that happens is such a huge part of the characters and their growth.

  • @HannahG93
    @HannahG93 Před 2 lety +108

    Crazy Ex Girlfriend is a great tv musical that I’m so glad that Ryan Murphy never touched. Although I would love to see the CXG writers to tackle Glee.

  • @bethanymears
    @bethanymears Před 3 lety +2907

    Is it just me or did everyone just forget that Will was a Spanish teacher?

    • @roslyngordon4596
      @roslyngordon4596 Před 3 lety +351

      Who could NOT speak Spanish

    • @serena9836
      @serena9836 Před 3 lety +91

      I feel like that there are multiple different subjects that he could have thought that would have been more fitting.

    • @mikemorro140
      @mikemorro140 Před 3 lety +49

      @@serena9836
      he did become a history teacher

    • @connorjess7000
      @connorjess7000 Před 3 lety +37

      @@mikemorro140 that was also forgotten

    • @pumpkinhead6760
      @pumpkinhead6760 Před 3 lety +8

      For a long time I thought he was a language arts teacher

  • @amoerike5860
    @amoerike5860 Před 3 lety +1212

    they absolutely RUINED blaine’s character after the second season. He turned from a suave, confident place of safety for kurt, into somewhat of a stereotypical gay character who had almost none of the confidence or personality that he possessed before. even his hair was completely ruined lmao. I feel that the original blaine could have been developed as a deeper character, but as the series progressed he became rather shallow and two dimensional.
    - not bashing on darren criss at all, he’s fantastic and in my opinion one of the consistently best vocalists on glee (he’s also a fantastic actor and artist overall)

    • @caitlinwheeler7915
      @caitlinwheeler7915 Před 3 lety +113

      Straight up they made his hair his personality and it’s awful. Like the OBSESSION with gelling his hair was just tragic I hated it

    • @joselocalau123
      @joselocalau123 Před 3 lety +41

      Caitlin Wheeler i know, specially since his hair is so beautiful damn

    • @cowgrll
      @cowgrll Před 3 lety +45

      speak the truth!!!! they did blaine so dirty. sometimes i have to think about the sheer volume of gel in his hair and weep

    • @parmin8388
      @parmin8388 Před 3 lety +49

      They even said Blaine had problems with his father and they never came back to it

    • @parmin8388
      @parmin8388 Před 3 lety +4

      @Steamy Mozzarella I don't really disagree 🙃

  • @liarodriguez9119
    @liarodriguez9119 Před rokem +80

    The fact that Rachel "wins " a Tony in 2020 and Lea gets cast as Fanny in 2022 is interesting

    • @tananario
      @tananario Před 5 měsíci +4

      Alex Newell winning their Tony Award right in front of Miss Oopsie I Did A Racism is 🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽

  • @chrisdonohue3843
    @chrisdonohue3843 Před rokem +121

    All the criticisms of Glee are absolutely valid, but I think you fail to call enough attention to how groundbreaking Glee was at the time. Glee was one of the first shows ever to feature such a diverse cast where characters weren’t reduced to stereotypes, but actually had their identities explored (e.g. Asian F, where Mike Chang’s conflict between following his dreams or the path his parents have chosen for him takes center stage.) Also, Glee’s LGBT representation was a true first in mainstream television. You mentioned Kurt’s coming out as a main plot of Season 1, but make only a passing mention of Brittany & Santana in Season 2, which was arguably even more significant than Kurt’s coming out because it was something that was revealed over time. Glee also tackled a lot of serious social issues in ways that were appropriate and offered interesting commentary that explored multiple facets of the issue (e.g. religion in Grilled Cheesus, sexuality in Sexy, domestic violence in Choke, etc.) The experience of watching Glee in 2020 as an adult is entirely different from watching it during its original run as an adolescent coming to terms with their identity. Yes, any Glee fan acknowledges the countless plot holes, silly tropes, and painfully stupid moments, but Glee’s impact on pop culture and inclusion of underrepresented groups shouldn’t be overlooked.

    • @aliciasousa5889
      @aliciasousa5889 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yes! I first watched glee when I was 10 y/o, and still to this day I can say how much I've learned with Glee, how to me, as kid, it was a way to open up my mind to the diversity of the world. Glee it's not something to be followed nowdays, but at that time, it was a ground breaking show.

  • @profilenamehello
    @profilenamehello Před 3 lety +2149

    I have to totally disagree about Santana. Her storyline hit me more than Kurt.
    I love Kurt. But not everyone has a Burt in their life. Santana's outing is a far more likely scenerio.

    • @molle020
      @molle020 Před 3 lety +282

      i also liked santana's storyline more than kurt's. it could be bc wlw are less positively represented or not represented at all than mlm.

    • @nelumboandrews6762
      @nelumboandrews6762 Před 3 lety +184

      Yes and santana wasnt a steortypical angelic but sassy gay. She was a latina steotype however but thats another thing

    • @Prisoner-ld9fy
      @Prisoner-ld9fy Před 3 lety +236

      i agree. santana's story is so much relatable. Being forced to come out and the scene with her abuela not accepting her is so close to the heart of many lgbt.
      whats sucks so bad is how they handle the aftermath of her forcibly coming out. its basically just about "redeeming" finn. plus the freaking i kissed the girl cover like dafuq?!?

    • @JFeydit
      @JFeydit Před 3 lety +162

      the thing about santana's storyline (which i think is what he is talking about in this video) is that she's outed not only once but twice and they deal with this REALLY poorly in comparison to kurt's coming out in season 1. fr, you can't come to me and say you'd forgive the person who outed you bc they sang a horrific version of girls just wanna have fun, you just can't

    • @zerjiozerjio
      @zerjiozerjio Před 3 lety +80

      Yes! As a gay man of color, I felt her coming out and her grandmother reject her (which actually happened to me), was very touching. And I don't know. I never felt she was a stereotype of a Latina. I just thought her character was, per her own admission, a bitch. But she was so beautifully flawed!

  • @volkaytno
    @volkaytno Před 3 lety +477

    THE JOKES ON CHORD OVERSTREET SKDKENDKNE I SCREAMED ON ALL OF THEM

    • @daishoryujin95
      @daishoryujin95 Před 3 lety +25

      I feel sorry for the non-music theory types, those jokes went over their heads like a trebuchet

    • @amybow9715
      @amybow9715 Před 3 lety +22

      TrIaD uNdErBrIdGe

    • @mr.worldwide4758
      @mr.worldwide4758 Před 3 lety +6

      nEaPoLiTaN 6 aDjAcEnT tO rOuNdAbOuT

    • @at-fq1km
      @at-fq1km Před 3 lety

      IM LOOKING FOR LITERALLY ANYONE THAT HAS COMMENTED ALL OF THEM CAN SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE A LIST

  • @aaronmichael1201
    @aaronmichael1201 Před 2 lety +340

    Me as a teenager: "I wish I had a teacher like Mr. Schue."
    Me as a grown adult who now teaches high school: "Mr. Schue is a predator."

    • @meeriann
      @meeriann Před 2 lety

      Why? He was in love with his wife and then Emma. He was a friend to teenagers so he's automatically a predator?? You snowflakes get a fking crip to the reality and look up what a predator really mean.
      I had a ''kind uncle'' that liked touching me. No he WAS a real predator. Grooming me by being my friend and trying to lure me in. Like an idiot I bought it. I was a child and believed and trusted him.
      Will never touched anyone. He was what he was.
      I also had adult friends cause I was more mature for my age. They didn't touch me or try to force me to do anything.
      Learn the difference, please. And stop trying to turn something wonderful into ugly.
      Friendships between young and old exist. Older teach us many things and we should appreciate them. I did. It was much better than doing childish shht with the same age idiots.
      So yeah. There was only ONE predator. And he wasn't even one of those that I chose to be a friend but a relative.
      Teachers CAN be predators. But he wasn't!

    • @beatsbydrea6557
      @beatsbydrea6557 Před 2 lety +12

      That part

    • @lexx.stormm
      @lexx.stormm Před rokem +21

      Will should’ve gotten fired, reported and arrested

  • @leilanyx
    @leilanyx Před 2 lety +61

    i never see anyone talk about this, but i think a major reason for the shows complete shift in tone and seemingly lack of direction during season 5 was largely due to the fact finn was, essentially, the heart of the show - it's clear most of the storylines planned would have relied on finn being there. like yeah, finn wasn't an amazing character but you can really feel the loss of cory monteith in the later seasons had a major impact on the shows overall feel and quality.
    another note: glee's main problem is it's refusal for their main characters to actually grow and develop. quinn was the only character that actually changed and grew and then (this is from memory, so i may be wrong on this) ryan murphy threw that away for petty reasons because he wanted quinn to stay the bitchy mean girl and dianna's portrayal of quinn meant he couldn't do that anymore.

    • @tananario
      @tananario Před 5 měsíci +1

      Except nearly every other comment says the exact same thing.

  • @c0llapsingst4rs
    @c0llapsingst4rs Před 3 lety +358

    “by the way, burt, kurts dad, best character in the show”
    thank you for acknowledging this truth

  • @raym1477
    @raym1477 Před 3 lety +518

    The worst thing about Glee (IMO) is how new characters would be hyped up, then forgotten 3 episodes later. SJP's Vogue editor, the British guy that Kurt dated, Demi Lovato and Adam Lambert's characters....gone after 3 episodes with little to no explanation.

    • @1rockcrawford
      @1rockcrawford Před 3 lety +52

      All for Rachel's terrible plotline, or Schuester being creep usually.

    • @savannahnicholo
      @savannahnicholo Před 3 lety +9

      Alexander Maxpower i think rory was deported in the show but dont quote me on that if im wrong

    • @mjm3091
      @mjm3091 Před 3 lety +24

      @@alexestrada5239 Rory like the other Glee Project cast people where only casted for specific amount of episodes. Which kinda sucks, cause for example Unique not even winning it, became a long running member of the series.

    • @Shalalacls
      @Shalalacls Před 3 lety +8

      We know why the love interests were gone. Fandom outrage. They were good characters but the damn fandom was all teenage girls (I know, I was one), and teenage girls want every story to be fanfiction. The things I'd see on tumblr every time Kurt or Santana kissed someone else, I can't speak of.

    • @ChenBritMi
      @ChenBritMi Před 3 lety +18

      Alexander Maxpower exactly! Joe’s fling with Quinn was so cute and they had so much chemistry, then the writers forgot about it 🤷🏻‍♀️
      I feel like the writers forget everything Quinn, like her friendship with Mercedes

  • @Lovely2291
    @Lovely2291 Před 2 lety +99

    Watching this after Naya Rivera passed, and the scene of Santana running away after crying just kills me now

  • @AnimalGirl345
    @AnimalGirl345 Před 2 lety +59

    "when it was good, there was nothing else like it" honestly that perfectly encapsulates that show and why i (and probably many others) kept watching and honestly still can enjoy it now. obviously it was frustrating, at least when it was ridiculous you could laugh and make fun of it, but sometimes you would have those awesome moments that just made you forget about everything frustrating.

  • @matthewbalsinger3238
    @matthewbalsinger3238 Před 3 lety +1458

    Naya Rivera singing "If I die Young" really hits hard this week. :(

    • @quinn5920
      @quinn5920 Před 3 lety +46

      ...look, you didnt have to make me cry like this

    • @skyepapa5334
      @skyepapa5334 Před 3 lety +6

      yeah that really hurt.
      edit: also @your bestest fwendy wend nice username

    • @nicoviola1489
      @nicoviola1489 Před 3 lety +1

      mhm

    • @graceyl.195
      @graceyl.195 Před 3 lety +3

      Your Bestest Fwendy Wend don’t wanna assume anything, is your username a starkid reference 👀

    • @quinn5920
      @quinn5920 Před 3 lety +1

      @@graceyl.195 It's plausible

  • @ameliatownsend5966
    @ameliatownsend5966 Před 3 lety +2705

    When he started talking about Rachel Berry and how the show had no consequences I immediately thought of when Rachel sent Sunshine to a crack house.

    • @ameliatownsend5966
      @ameliatownsend5966 Před 2 lety +6

      I dont care 💀🤣

    • @RozWBrazel
      @RozWBrazel Před 2 lety +73

      @@ameliatownsend5966 who are you talking to? 👁👄👁
      Did they leave?

    • @WAK3_UP_
      @WAK3_UP_ Před 2 lety +14

      @@RozWBrazel 💀

    • @sharonsmith2771
      @sharonsmith2771 Před 2 lety +43

      That was funny.Anway,it wasnt an active crack house,so relax.

    • @ameliatownsend5966
      @ameliatownsend5966 Před 2 lety +19

      @@RozWBrazel LMFAOOo came back and didn't realize they must have deleted the comment someone said it wasn't an active crack house.

  • @kyleighmaddox2574
    @kyleighmaddox2574 Před 2 lety +138

    36:08 The Glee train would muster on. That is until it got derailed.
    The editing and timing gave me chills. I was watching Glee during its prime and as a fan back then and partially still to this day. Cory's death was a horrible tragedy and no matter who you supported or even knew the show. July 13 2013 was a day of sorrow and also condolences. Some people to this day miss him.

  • @evabrachfeld5552
    @evabrachfeld5552 Před 2 lety +456

    hey just as an fyi for the future, the terms "wheelchair bound" and "handicapable" are not generally loved by the disability community. "wheelchair bound" just isn't super accurate because wheelchairs are tools for mobility that help people get around and live their lives, wheelchairs are not a hindrance or something that someone is "bound" to, they actually give people freedom. "handicapable" is considered to be a little patronizing, we know we're disabled, you can just say disabled. again, it's not a super huge deal, just for the future. also it was a pretty big ppoint of contention within the disability community that archie was not played by an actual wheelchair user, just because their are so many wheelchair-using actors who can't get non-wheelchair parts.

    • @rebekahrhodes9512
      @rebekahrhodes9512 Před rokem +12

      I was going to ask if handi-capable was her preferred label because otherwise it feels weird

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 Před rokem +4

      I'm glad you said this bc I also was going to comment that disabled is just a better term

    • @calmbbaer
      @calmbbaer Před rokem +1

      @@rebekahrhodes9512 - it does, even worse and more condescending than "differently abled."

  • @camilaandino-sanchez2649
    @camilaandino-sanchez2649 Před 3 lety +2384

    I'm still mad that Rachel got into NYADA and KURT DIDN'T

    • @lemonwater1108
      @lemonwater1108 Před 3 lety +245

      I KNOW. Kurts voice was made for broadway and they instead had to make everything about Rachel and made Kurt Pursue fashion. Idk it just felt undeserved

    • @camilaandino-sanchez2649
      @camilaandino-sanchez2649 Před 3 lety +36

      lemon water YESSSSS FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTAND

    • @fruitysoupy
      @fruitysoupy Před 3 lety +113

      Not to mention that with a voice as unique as his he'd get into almost every stage art centric school there is
      my brother for example has a very wide vocal range (baritone up to Altus) and got a scholarship because of it

    • @camilaandino-sanchez2649
      @camilaandino-sanchez2649 Před 3 lety +59

      @@fruitysoupy YES EXACTLY even NYADA is not a real school he should've gotten in the first time instead of Rachel, and that may be just my hatred towards Rachel but I think Kurt should have gotten in first.

    • @pinkmannonite6162
      @pinkmannonite6162 Před 3 lety +31

      I was legit mad when that happened. That's when I really started disliking the show.

  • @marinagemoftheseas
    @marinagemoftheseas Před 3 lety +239

    Therapist: Rapping Will Schuester isn't real, he can't hurt you
    Rapping Will Schuester: 7:59, 8:04, 8:08, 8:13
    Me: *hysterical shrieking*

    • @arambles1
      @arambles1 Před 7 dny

      Insert akira psychic damage gif

  • @liarodriguez9119
    @liarodriguez9119 Před rokem +25

    The scene where Santana cries while singing after Cory's death still gives me chills.

  • @ladymallowyt
    @ladymallowyt Před 6 měsíci +16

    You're right. I don't believe glee is as fun to watch when you binge watch the series. It was excited when they released the songs before that weeks episode and we were all guessing what the plot of the episodes gonna be. I miss those days. Also, I really hated how Kurt didn't get in to NYDA and Rachel got in from harassing the deen

  • @harleyquiinnnn
    @harleyquiinnnn Před 3 lety +1188

    You forgot the fact that the only bisexual character was also portrayed as basically 'perpetually confused' in general

    • @nelumboandrews6762
      @nelumboandrews6762 Před 3 lety +31

      Yup! Yup!

    • @eviekenyon574
      @eviekenyon574 Před 3 lety +195

      Not to mention the many comments made about it, eg: “conflicted”, “mostly lesbian” etc. Ryan’s writing was constantly biased

    • @clarisselu2935
      @clarisselu2935 Před 3 lety +220

      don't forget kurt's (and actually the show in general's) biphobia

    • @clarisselu2935
      @clarisselu2935 Před 3 lety +26

      fiiiggkgk hduj not sure who you're replying to, but brittany was the bisexual talked about in the original comment

    • @eviekenyon574
      @eviekenyon574 Před 3 lety +7

      fiiiggkgk hduj which comment are you replying to? If you mean mine then Ryan was the shows producer (I think) and one of the writers

  • @ralliman320
    @ralliman320 Před 3 lety +442

    Naya Rivera's rendition of "If I Die Young" was heartbreaking at the time; in light of her own premature death it's nearly too much to bear.

  • @taylorgayhart9497
    @taylorgayhart9497 Před rokem +29

    I would have stopped watching Glee after season 3 no matter what, but losing Cory was… the end of ever enjoying Glee for me. It happened not long after my stepbrother ODed and died, so many people are me were struggling with addiction, and losing him like that was heartbreaking. The episode The Quarterback was like therapy, but it was the last episode I could bring myself to watch.

  • @sophiakarina5322
    @sophiakarina5322 Před 2 lety +77

    I’m so confused at your description of the Rachel and Finn S3 ending cause it’s entirely the opposite of what actually happened. For me it captured what you were talking about with s1 doing so well - emotional stakes. Finn literally breaks up with her on their wedding day cause he acknowledges the reality that long distance and the work Rachel will need to put in to achieve her dream just won’t work congruently with their relationship. It’s quite arguably the most selfless thing a Glee character does (all to be undone 4 episodes later of course LOL).

  • @jeanleon7674
    @jeanleon7674 Před 3 lety +222

    I really hate what the writers did to Tina in seasons 4 and 5. I can understand why in season 3 she gave up on the goth/emo look, she's growing up and is a teenager and became more confident, but in starting in season 4, she started to act like a child, always whining and complaining and the screaming. She became really mean after that. I will never forgive the writers. They ruined so many characters. The show really put Rachel in the center, and she's the most annoying person ever.

    • @cory9268
      @cory9268 Před 3 lety +16

      @Mr. Perezident They basically wrote her as a joke... She was Rachel 2.0 but Asian and with less talent. Despite the fact that the character was also written to be smart enough to get into Brown. Such a joke and I can see why the actress doesn't look super pleased about the show when she's asked about it.

    • @meanjean7548
      @meanjean7548 Před 3 lety +8

      Also her crush on Blaine was just weird and unnecessary in my opinion

    • @mr.worldwide4758
      @mr.worldwide4758 Před 3 lety +7

      thebloodfiend Jenna Ushkowitz deserves better

  • @pedrosoares597
    @pedrosoares597 Před 3 lety +478

    I just know Mr. Schuester would be rapping Young Thug's verse in Havana by Camila Cabello and do it directly towards an underage girl in that stupid Glee room

    • @franciscamarques4380
      @franciscamarques4380 Před 3 lety +6

      why is this so accurate

    • @lydiavalentino
      @lydiavalentino Před 3 lety +2

      This really just reminds me of Normani's tweet from 2013 where she called Camila "[her] Lea Michele" - which, given the controversy Camila's gotten into as of late, might've been more accurate than intended.

  • @lovelove-55s
    @lovelove-55s Před 2 lety +48

    Rachel was quite literally a horrible person and she got so much pass throught the show AND THEN they tried to make you feel bad when another character put her in her place

  • @KristylikeKrisT
    @KristylikeKrisT Před 2 lety +24

    Kurt’s rendition of I wanna hold your hand in the context of the scene he sang it in is one of the best performances of the show imo

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 Před 3 lety +574

    2 things from Glee i will forever be salty about
    1: Tike wasn't endgame and they split them up in season 4 after they were the most solid and mature and least problematic pairing FOR TWO WHOLE SEASONS!!!!!
    2: Rachel got into NYADA after choking on her audition but Kurt didn't after he slays his and gives arguably he strongest ever performance in terms of vocals and choreography.

    • @jamesosborn1555
      @jamesosborn1555 Před 3 lety +9

      i like tike more than tartie but i’m happy jenna and kevin where together

    • @alaeaaa
      @alaeaaa Před 3 lety +11

      Im legit still mad about tike not being endgame

    • @mattwaldman3346
      @mattwaldman3346 Před 3 lety +8

      BURT HUMMEL IS THE BEST CHARACTER AND I STAND BY THAT

    • @addisynwade9718
      @addisynwade9718 Před 3 lety +6

      I will forever be salty about Miss Mercedes Jones not getting so much more in the show. Everything that was going to be hers was given to Rachel. From Sam to solos to the part of Maria, she lost so much and only got a semi-decent ending.

    • @Molly-tv5sv
      @Molly-tv5sv Před 3 lety +2

      I am so salty about the Kurt/Rachel NYADA thing but honestly, the Kurt being alive moment and the journey of "you need to get in touch with a side of your performance that isn't just camp" was pretty good. I just wish that something like that happened to Rachel (something that she needed to fix or do differently in order to be better) because she literally just sails through the singing part of NYADA just fine and no one gives her any substantial critiques. I know Lea has an amazing voice but it still would've been great character development to see her grow and humble herself earlier on in the show.

  • @morganmarsh1276
    @morganmarsh1276 Před 3 lety +563

    "My comments here aren't to disparage Lea Michele or her performance-"
    Me: wow really?
    "If you're looking for that just go on twitter and watch her former castmates do it themselves"
    Me: yup, there it is ♡

    • @susanalopez5052
      @susanalopez5052 Před 3 lety +28

      For years I thought her performance was genius but turns out she wasn’t even pretending :)

    • @tabithabailey523
      @tabithabailey523 Před 3 lety +8

      Am I the only one who remembers about Sue’s baby ?! Whatever happened with that

    • @morganmarsh1276
      @morganmarsh1276 Před 3 lety +4

      @@tabithabailey523 and Rory Flanagan 😭

  • @mygroinisonfire
    @mygroinisonfire Před rokem +24

    I'm glad you mentioned the "Baby Got Back" discourse, I was upset when it happened and when I tried to explain to people why they all thought I was overreacting. Glad to see someone else saw how fucked up that was

  • @queenofarathia.
    @queenofarathia. Před rokem +34

    how dare you say santana and sebastian’s cover of “smooth criminal” simply “exists”

  • @katie3603
    @katie3603 Před 3 lety +1345

    Fun fact: Chord Overstreet has a sister named Harmony Overstreet

    • @icymoons
      @icymoons Před 3 lety +217

      their entire family is named this way. much to think about.

    • @zahrah8512
      @zahrah8512 Před 3 lety +22

      mazie What are the rest called I can’t be bothered too search it

    • @carlii1663
      @carlii1663 Před 3 lety +109

      Hungry Like The Vultures Nash, Skye, Summer, Charity, and Harmony are all of his siblings names

    • @potatlife
      @potatlife Před 3 lety +58

      Carli I those are really hipster names

    • @isabelhoch3713
      @isabelhoch3713 Před 3 lety

      Oh god XD

  • @quadplefun
    @quadplefun Před 3 lety +635

    An hour commentary and analysis on Glee is something I never knew I needed. It's like watching a perfectly made thesis, which is awesome

    • @TenisJr
      @TenisJr Před 3 lety +26

      *Gleesis

    • @quadplefun
      @quadplefun Před 3 lety +5

      @@TenisJr oh damn, missed that 😂

    • @tepmurt76
      @tepmurt76 Před 3 lety +3

      I didn't know I needed this and yet I had to watch every second of it.

    • @mr.worldwide4758
      @mr.worldwide4758 Před 3 lety

      DoudouCow Happy belated birthday my dude

  • @marvelmaniacs1
    @marvelmaniacs1 Před rokem +28

    I always laugh whenever I see the scene of Will telling the kids that they're all in a minority because they're Glee club cuz it's just so not true😂