AANG WAS A BAD FATHER?! 🤔 The Legend of Korra 2x3-4 "CIVIL WARS PART 1 & 2" | Reaction & Review
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It’s true that Aang put more focus on Tenzin but it doesn’t mean he doesn’t love all his children. Tenzin just has more of a responsibility to restore an entire culture that was lost to time over a century. I imagine Aang also realized that someone had to train the next Avatar after he passed away.
But you don't have to be an airbender to understand and restore the culture though. Aang was a bad father. But he did love his children.
As a fan base we just don't want to admit it to ourselves that Aang was a bad father because we love him so much. And I say bad as in he neglected his children because he concentrated more on being the Avatar than being there for them. And then made it 100 times worse by giving whatever time he had Only to Tenzin since he was an airbender.
I think in a way Aang is a bad father because of him putting so much pressure on Tenzin and also leaving out the others, that is not good parenting. I’m not saying he didn’t love the others but yeah. It’s hard for fans to believe Aang could do such a thing but Aang in his younger years although wise did make mistakes as well. Who knows how Tenzin would have turned out if he didn’t have the only responsibility of making more airbenders, what if he didn’t have any airbenders? Then Aang would have pushed him too hard for no reason. I think that’s where the bad parenting comes in.
@@jonns6294 it depends on what you label as "bad father"... Aangs flaws as a parent are well within the normal range of the things loving, well meaning parents do on a day to day basis all around us. If you call anything less than perfect "bad parenting" then there is no such thing as good parenting.. Hes a normal human who imparted certain insecurities & traumas on his children with some of his decisions...welcome to 90% of the world...Tbh, the best part of the Korra series are moments like these where we see the flaws of the past characters we love. But that doesn't mean we have to paint them with broad strokes such as "bad parent." Thats just as wrong as the portion of the fandom who refuse to believe Aang would ever be less than perfect and treat this as "out of character" writing lol.
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncilI'm not trying to defend aang in anyway but I honestly don't think we have enough information to label him as a "bad father" all we know is that he put more focus on tezin than the others..
Forgot to mention this on the previous reaction, but since Tonrok and Korra are part of the royal bloodline, it's pretty likely they are distant cousins to Yue!
That’s amazing, I never even thought about that before!
Love how Avatar characters are so complex! Especially in the Korea series🤍🙏 Even the people we look up to have their faults. Aang never really a normal childhood, so it makes sense he didn’t connect as well with his kids.
Agreed! The nuances between each of the Avatars is what makes them so "human" and each unique :) Thanks for always watching with us! 💜
Yes. It's one of the reasons why I love LOK. It's so relatable. The characters have flaws and make mistakes. Like who doesn't?
I love legend of Korea
also him being an airnomad he was never raised by parents, but by friends and the community. so he doesnt really know what parents do
I think people often forget that two things can be true. In the context of Kya and Bumi, Aang was a bad father. Neglect in any form is not good and we see the resentment it creates in Kya and Bumi. But that doesn’t mean that’s what Aang intended. I agree with all the hats he had to put on, including keeping a whole culture alive that neglect was almost an inevitable conclusion. But that just adds context, it doesn’t excuse the fact that Aang was not a good father to Kya and Bumi. These characters are nuanced and I appreciate being able to have conversations like this about them. Aang was not a bad person, but neither are his kids for their experiences growing up while still being able to love and appreciate their father.
I fully agree. I feel like all the characters' experiences are justified. I'm sure Aang was, in some ways, a good father. He tried his best and at the same time, he failed to give all of his kids equal amount of attention. Both can be true
So by what your saying does that mean Military parents are bad parents as well ?
Meesh should totally be asami for halloween. Dee would make a great kuvira or korra.
It took me a really long time to appreciate how the writers humanized our gaang😭 I don’t think Aang necessarily was a bad father as much as he wanted to spend as much time with Tenzin learning about air nation culture and passing down knowledge. Love you guys so much❤❤ I also made my gf watch Avatar a few years ago
We completely agree with you! And thank you for watching along with us :) So happy you were able to watch this with your gf as well! 💜💜
Aang not being a perfect father makes sense to me given all the burdens of being the Avatar *and* the last airbender weighing on him. This was bound to happen and it makes sense to who Aang was imo. With that said, I don't believe that he loved Kya and Bumi any less, but he definitely could've included them more or taught them the culture of his people alongside Tenzin. I suppose not everyone can be a great parent despite being a good person, but that's okay. Everyone isn't perfect, they have their flaws and Aang (despite what some fans say) is no exception.
Loved that last scene with Korra reconciling with her parents, especially with her father. It was a really heartwarming thing to see that despite their differences and issues at the moment, they'll always put family first. Family moments in Avatar are always spot-on! Tenzin's family moments and Korra's family moments, honestly one of my favorite aspects of this season ❤
Korra using Naga to threaten the judge gives me chills even though it isn't exactly a good thing for an Avatar to do. It actually reminded me of when Roku barged into Sozin's throne room, wrecked it up, and threatened his life lol. When Avatars get mad, they sure get scary threatening 😅
The fact that any of the ATLA kids were ok parents is a miracle given they were practically child soldiers with missing or abusive parents. None of them had good childhoods
Eska looks like she'd love My Chemical Romance. 😂
LOL!
Roku had children, not sure how many, but we know because Zuko is a descendent on his mother's side.
Everyone wants what they don't have, Rumi envied being a bender as a non bender to the Avatars Bender family. Kaya saw the attention Tenzin was getting and her sacrifice to care for her mom and not her brothers. Finally Tenzin saw how free her siblings were while he was burdened with his dads baggage.
Aang also didn't seem to have a parent to role modal, and his father in law was an absent father, so not so many people to source guidance from. Also Air benders are a communal society, so the parenting process is far removed from him. But at the end of the day every parent makes mistakes. I'm sure they did their best. It would be unrealistic to portray a perfect fanfiction life . If we ever see adult day guitar with kids that would be interesting to see, what the struggle was like from their perspective.
Love how you two were like no korra you promised your dad you wouldn't do anything rash and then proceeded to attack the judge and got the juiciest info out of him hahahah she may be hot-blooded but it kinda always pays! Like she's the avatar she's destined to work things out yk, she's the next reincarnation for a reason :DD I love Korra sm!!
I've watched this show at last ten times but I teared up right along w you when Bumi talked to Aang's statue and Kya came up to comfort him🥺 this moment always gets me
The ending with Bumi is so good!! 🥹❤️🙏🏼
Zuko, the one with the most daddy issues turned out to be the best dad amongst the gang 🤣
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17:13 Roku has at least one daughter, who is zuko and azula’s maternal grandmother
I find it funny Bumi is as crazy as Aang’s friend Bumi 😂
That's probably Uncle Sokka's influence more than anything.
Aang wasn’t necessarily a bad father. I’m sure Aang no doubt loved all of his kids dearly, but it would make sense that he fawned over Tenzin a little bit more since Kya was a waterbender and Bumi was a non-bender. Tenzin on the other hand was the only one to inherit Airbending and it was Aang’s greatest wish to revive the Air Nation. Let’s be honest here there is no such thing as the perfect father, mother, wife, husband, sibling.. perfection doesn’t exist in this world period. What really matters is who you are on the inside and out.
That's precisely why they wrote adult Aang the way they did, to show that nobody, i.e. no parent, is perfect. I believe. When it comes down to it Aang neglected his children. Point blank period. Never gave them nearly enough attention as he did to Tenzin. Doesn't mean he didn't love them with all his heart, but as children actions speak Waaaay louder than words do.
In my opinion kya and bumi Should have been on all those trips with Aang and tenzin. They may not of been airbenders but they Are part of the Air Nation, part of the Legacy.
Those are the same sentiments we have as well! We discussed this a bit towards the end of the video too :) definitely of the same mindset!
@MeeshDeeReacts tenzin was also the youngest and we all know how youngest siblings can be... kya as we know traveled the world on her own, so she probably flew the coop young, much like her parents did. Bumi got kidnapped by the military so who even knows what/how/when that happened except for him?
We know that perfection doesn't exist, following that logic then Aang is way too far of perfection than parents like Zuko, Tonraq and Tenzin.
I’m the youngest in my family too so I guess I get it
Speaking on if the other avatars had families and children, yall mentioned Kyoshi but are forgetting a more recent one which was Roku. Roku is Zukos grandfather.
Kya had Katara, Tenzin had Aang. I would like to think that Uncle Sokka was a mentor and role model for Bumi at times during Bumi's childhood. Sokka could have shown him that a non-bender can still be a badass!
Bumi has Sokka and Suki as mentors, prolly one of the reasons why he join the army.
Wait, new intro? Or am I crazy 😆. As always, it’s fun watching y’all’s reactions to the show. Looking forward for the upcoming episodes 😁
Yesss new intro 😉✨❤️
avatar Roku’s daughter was Zukos’s Grandma (Ursas mom)
No it’s zukos mom. Zukos mom father is avatar Roku.
@@Jointz3 no Avatar Roku is Zuko’s great-grandfather
People seem to forget that this is just the kids' version of their childhood. If you see it from an adult perspective it makes sense. These weren't vacations. They were tutorials in bending. Kya is a waterbender so she needed to be trained by her mother. That's something people rarely remember. That leaves Bumi, the only non-bender. It wouldn't be fair to Kya if her father brought both sons with him in a journey and not his daughter. But she was taught by Katara so the practical thing was to leave her and Bumi with their mother. Considering Bumi's personality, it might also have been too much traveling with him as one of three kids. (Flashback: Milo in LOK.) So, no, Aang wasn't a bad parent. Just practical. You really think Katara would let him get away with being a shitty Dad? No, she obviously thought this was fair and Katara was the warrior of fairness.
"We can't believe you did either."
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Mommy Asami 😂
Thanks! I’m gona steal that one!
29:10 This scene always just breaks my heart. It makes me so sad to see him like that because Bumi really does try his best the only way he can -- serving in the United Forces. The fact that he feels like he is not enough makes me think that him and Aang never really talked about their feeilngs T^T
Also, I love that Bumi and Kaya have the kind of close relationship that is forged by experiencing the same pain. Love seeing them support each other.
Rewatching this again, I realize LOK truly does portray family relationships incredibly well.
Yea but if I remember correctly later on they realize Aang was trying they just wasn't looking at it that way they where just looking at what they didn't have and not what they did . Because I know the daughter kya is lesbian or bi and in the comics she told korra when she told Aang she didn't know how he would react and was nervous but he hugged her and was happy for her
@@kingjames6948 Let me be clear on this -- I don't think Aang was a bad father. I think he really did try his best, considering all the responsibilties he had to shoulder. I think that is true. And yet, I believe it is also true that Kya and Bumi were hurt because he didn't give them enough attention.
In my opinion, in Aangs relationship with his kids, there is no right or wrong, bad or good. In some aspects, I'm sure, Aang was present, loving and attentive. At the same time, Kya and Bumi's feelings are justified as well. Doesn't mean that they don't love him. They still appreciate and love Aang for everything he did do.
@@Juuri_ See I feel kinda similar like Aang was their and was going on trips with kya and bumi but they just always was a little jealous of that little connection Aang and Tenzin had through airbending so that's the part they focused on.
Plus Aang had to rebuild the world, while also keeping the airnation culture alive plus being a fulltime parent something was bout to go wrong because there's only so much one person can do. I also think that kya and bumi aren't focusing on the good parts that They had with Aang I'm betting they had Amazing fun and Deep talks. But I also wish they had said something like this in LOK instead of just leaving it so Vague they could've easily had them(kya & bumi) realize they had a Great relationship with Aang as well they were just jealous of the special connection Aang and tenzin had through Airbending which does happen in families as well it's not always Favoritism sometimes it's just jealousy or perspective. or instead they could've had Katara say something like "We always went on Family trips " or "your father loved you and was proud of you both Especially you Bumi " instead they just drop big bombs like Dad loved you more and never Addressed it Again or That Aang wasnt proud of bumi because he was a non bender so that's why he joined the military.
I dont understand why the show made it seem like he didn't love them. Unless it's the whole "The Grass is green'er on the other side" thing like I mentioned earlier they just didn't didn't realize how good there relationship was with Aang. But even if it was they should've had them address that in the show.
@@kingjames6948 The way I see it, the part where Kya pulls out the family picture of them all together was to show that Aang did indeed love them equally, despite everything else. I assume the show simply tried to express that none of the ATLA characters were perfect. It's not about putting blame on specific people or chosing a side, but rather showing nuances to the characters. Maybe the writers put their hope in the viewers that they would also understand everything that WASN'T said. Personally, I do believe that most viewers *know* that Aang wasn't a bad father at all while also not being perfect.
@@Juuri_ yea I would HOPE that some people understand that there's a lot more that wasn't said but why I wish they expanded more is because now there's an entire section of the fandom that despises Aang and say he hated his kids, and he was a deadbeat, saying he was only worried about Tenzin and didn't raise kya and bumi
I don’t this Aang was terrible, but I don’t think kya & bumi were making stuff up. I’m not one of those fans who likes to live in denial bc a character I like changes when they become an adult and I think that’s what’s wrong w a lot of the fandom. They’re still holding on to what Aang was when he was 12, and refuse to see him in any other light besides that. I def feel Aang neglected them bc he had to make sure tenzin was ready to carry on the tradition of the air nomads, but I still feel like if he was trying his best like people say, this altercation between kya & bumi wouldn’t have happened
I think they also forget how much Kya and Bumi talk about being bored or that they tried to get into the air nomad history and stuff but it just didn't stick😂. Like the situation is definitely more nuanced than Ang just forgetting about all of his non-airbender kids
I definitely think Aang spent time with kya and bumi and loved them they where just jealous of the connection Aang and Tenzin had through airbending.
Re: Aang as a father
I've seen some people argue "Aang would NEVER"
And all I can say is that it's okay for characters to have flaws. It makes them interesting. If Aang can be a bending prodigy, rizzmaster with Katara, peacemaker and peacekeeper, while being fun, kind, intelligent, and empathetic with both man and spirits, it's okay if he had a problem connecting with his non-Airbending kids. Doesn't mean he didn't love them.
Also last time the audience saw him was at 12 year old. I find it strange that some how people can predict whether or not a 12 year old would grow up to be a decent father. Can anyone honestly pick out any 12 year old in their lives and confidently determine they would be a good dad or not. Let alone an orphan 12 year old who was communally raised by monks all his life.
Jesus I could not agree more. I can't with people hating on LOK just because. She's her own person and they keep comparing her to Aang. I love both. I love ATLA because it's my childhood. And I love Korra because as a young adult, it's so relatable. Doesn't matter that I'm a straight dude.
It’s one thing to say Ang spent more time with Tenzin because of training him to become an air nomad. It’s another thing to try and claim Ang would literally not take his other kids with him on f-ing vacation. That literally means he loves his other children less which is bull considering how much he loved even an animal as insignificant as momo.
Your excuses for bullsht writing is quite amusing though
@@brando8611 Once again, I didn't say he loved Tenzin more. I'm saying it's fine if Aang didn't connect with Bumi or Kya as much. Favoritism happens, especially when one kid is interested in things you're interested in (in this case, Airbending).
Varrick is one of my favorite characters 😂
Same!! lol -D
He and Ju lee always do DA THAAAAAAANG!!!!!
Aang wasn't a bad father, really. His kids know that he loved them, and cared about them. He just wasn't perfect, he did let his duties and personal desires get in the way of his family. Maybe he was right to, but it did have a negative effect on his relationship with his kids.
Speaking as someone who certainly had a bad father. I don’t see Aang as a bad dad. Certainly flawed. As it was discussed in this video. Aang was the last Airbender. His only hope to revive his culture was to have an airbender child. His first son was a non-bender, second child was a waterbender, and it wasn’t until his third child that he saw his chance to revive that culture. Though, he should have brought his other kids on those trips.
loving the new intro!! ❤
Yay!! Glad you like it and the rebrand 🥰✨
I wouldn’t say Aang was a bad father… Though he might focus more on Tenzin because he is an Airbender with makes him the last Airbender after Aang died… But it don’t mean he was a bad I’m sure he love his kids… And you know Siblings will always be Siblings getting jealous of each other or bullying each other just like we’re seeing with Jinora and her siblings
20:37 *induction.
Aubrey Plaza was the perfect voice actress for eska
These Kataang kids episodes always make me wish we had some kind of flashbacks on the Gaangs kids. I mean, does anyone else wonders why Kya wears a betrothal necklace? Who are Iroh II and Lin's dads? What adventures Bumi went through while in the army? How does Izumi handles the pressure of being the 1st female firelord and all? Etc...👀👀
I've been seeing so many people giving Aang the excuse of "Aang never had parents so he doesn't know how to be a proper father" or "Of course he's gonna favor Tenzin more since he's the Airbender" which I think is just completely dumb.
Aang could've allowed Kya and Bumi to follow him on all those trips because as we know from Tenzin, he wasn't just training 24/7 with Aang.. he literally said he built sand castles on Ember Island etc. Aang could've taught Kya and Bumi the Air Nomad Culture like those Air Acolytes did (Pema and all those non bending people in the Air Temples)
Kya could've expanded her fighting styles more by bending water but with the moves of Air culture just like how Korra's airbending style is more Modern style very aggressive or like Katara when she did that Earthbending move against Hama.
Aang is just a bad father, we don't have to make excuses for him and not everyone is perfect.
He wasnt a bad father though. The nuanced way to look at it is that he's a father w flaws
They actually make it clear that Aang did teach at least Kya some Airbending culture in season 3
@@chrisjacobsen7265 No, Kya only knew (barely btw) about the Guru thing and it wasn't specifically said that it was Aang who taught her or gave her the knowledge plus it was implied that Tenzin was the one that told her because Kya tried to reminisce with Pema and Tenzin replied with "yes I remember" so stop trying to make it seem like Aang did his job when he didn't.
@@vgfunman Aang was a bad father towards Bumi and Kya, moreso Bumi because he had to grow up thinking he was a failure and didn't know his own father was proud of him.
@@mikhaelis1447 kya is confirmedto be the most like aang, and became nomadic just like his people
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Zukos mother’s father is Avatar Roku
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Korra used the avatar state in the first episode against the spirit and in the second episode to open the sprit portal so are you talking about the fact she has only not used the avatar state in one episode from before episode 4 or till this episode and Korra is great at bending without going into the avatar state
Poor bolin man. The only one nt giving me blood pressure every 10sec😂😭
*FAN FACT:* Kya is a confirmed LGBTQIA+ character. She brings up one of ex-girlfriends in the Comics while in a conversation with Korra. *I LOVE THAT FOR US! She's soOo* 🤌🏼🥹❤️🔥💌
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That "fun fact" whole scene is the reason I got the A4 hardcover version of turf wars😂 The sunset complimented Kyas color pallet so well I just had to buy it😭
I definitely dont think Aang was a bad father And loved his kids very much. He basically had to police the world and help build it, while rebuilding an entire culture WHILE 😥 being a fulltime parent something was going to give and go wrong or at least not as he planned I'm surprised Aang was still able to function with all that stress plus I'm pretty sure he loved his kids but he was just busy I think he went on trips with them and everything but they where jealous of him and tenzin bond . Look at how military parents are. And cop parents are now make that world wide instead of just one city.
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Idk man, Aang was a bad father in the fact he didnt include all of his kids in certain things. But what can he do if Kya and Bumi weren’t interested in Air bender culture. Is he supposed to force them to learn? I feel like its kind of hypocritical for them to go at Tenzin for that when they had no interest in it.
That is a good point lol they even make fun of some of the stories of the Gurus too
Is this the first time for you to watch for the both of you? Always enjoy your reaction
Hi there! This is Dee's first time watching TLOK. But Meesh has seen this series already :) Thanks for watching along with us!
random fact: korra’s mom senna is a waterbender😂
Meesh & Dee Awesome Video/Episode Today!!🔥🐐🐐💎
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Love your videos. I recently found your channel and love the Korra reactions.
this season is definitely my least favorite but there are some things that are done really well. I find Korra’s issues with her dad to hit hardest because i’ve been going through similar stuff with mine.
Yay! Thanks so much for watching along with us ❤️🥰
35:53 🎶Fuck that shit I’m out🎶
I LOVE your guys new intro awesome. You should extend your Channel to VR
ooooo you have intro now 👍
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We also know Roku had at least one child.
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Ma'am, why would toph be the earth queen??? Lol
I think you are in the wrong channel
There are people that say that Aang was a bad father but I don't think so. Without being too spoiler-y Aang wanted Bumi and Kya there but they chose not to involve themselves in Air Nation culture, and that's on them. Relationships are a two way street, and Aang could only do so much. I feel if Aang failed any of his children it was Tenzin. There was so much pressure on Tenzin and he tried so hard to live up to his father, that it was simply impossible.
All good points here! Relationships are certainly a two-way street. 🙏🏼
Aang was not a bad father. But as the Avatar, he's not allowed to prioritize his family over the world. As harsh as it may sound, Tenzin is more important to the world than Kya and Bumi. So Aang had to spend the little free time he had mentoring Tenzin. But he didn't exclude his other children from his culture, they just weren't as interested in it at the time because they didn't relate as much to airbending. And they weren't angry at Tenzin for supposedly being the golden child, they were angry at him for thinking Aang was perfect and that carrying his legacy is his responsibility alone.
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Yeah Korra… Trusting one uncle over your Dad and Tenzin… See.? What you did.? Huh.? Lol 🤦🏻
It's not that he was a bad father, it's that he wasn't the best father to his other 2 non Airbender children. As someone who grew up with a father who is well regarded and respected, who in reality wasn't that great a father, or husband, while still being an all-around decent person eventually to me and my siblings as we've gotten older, I can appreciate a deconstruction of Aang and Toph as being not so good parents to their kids. (Oh, I can not wait for ya'll to get to the next books, Lin gets an arc in regards to her issues with her mother, that is JUICEY)
Hey Avatar Meesh and Avatar Dee "Happy Monday". I hope you two had a wonderful weekend. I wouldn't say Aang is a terrible father. But at the same time he wasn't perfect. I feel he favored Tenzin more than Bumi and Kya. Because Tenzin is an Airbender. Which is messed up.
I feel bad for Bolin for being in an abusive relationship. Korra role as Avatar is truly being tested as she is caught in a conflict between the Northern Water Tribe and Southern Air Tribe.
Varrick is hilarious. Unalaq being bad wasn't surprising. But anyway I hope you two have a wonderful day. Stay safe, take care and stay amazing.
Hey Avatar Rob! Happy Monday to you too :) Agree with you that Aang wasn't a terrible father per-se, he had a lot of responsibility on his shoulders all while balancing his family and his avatar duties. Hope you have a great week ahead!
@MeeshDeeReacts you as well. I hope the rest of day is enjoyable you two 😁
The jinx was cute
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You 2 just keep getting more and more gorgeous tho! Dope reaction 🔥
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