Some haters accused Steve and Gamers Nexus for being drama queens and hate baiters etc. Well if this is the kind of positive influence their "drama" can make, GET US MORE.
In general, as one who have followed several channels about tech... I've noticed an increase in DRAMA, in the style of (day 1 AMD will swipe the floor with Intel), (day 3 - AMD fails in deluvering), day 5 AMD faster than anyone thought, day 7 AMD poor performance... This IN GENRAL is clickbait and DRAMA just to try to get views (no matter the facts). To raise critque towards this kind of behaviour is not to be a hater!
Just an added info: Philippine pricing are always tax and fees included. So you can probably shave of at least $75-200, if we are talking about msrp without tax.
@@John.Philip.Tan876 Well you can't blame those countries, like USA(lol or you could). However, it's really because each of their state have different tax laws. So they can't universally give the exact price. Only the before tax price are provided and depending which state they are, the taxes on that state are applied. But if you get used to it, you can pretty much give a ballpark estimate on how much the tax would be from the msrp. As for countries like Philippines, who only follow one taxation law, stores and businesses can and do provide after tax pricing onset.
@@kitnomanHow would different tax laws exclude the practicality of showing the total cost for the customer? I’d understand if it’s a business and do tax write offs, but out of perspective from a consumer it’s a hassle.
@@kitnoman For online shopping the tax rate the business is in applies, not the customer. In Europe it is the tax rate of the customer that applies, yet here retailers calculate the local tax rates correctly... So the argument doesn't really work at all, since it is not true, and places where it is true, include tax in the price...
Formally implemented changes (when only in the news). I’ll wait 10 years for positive users reviews before I change my buying preferences. Why wait 10 years? That’s how long I noticed how bad their RMA process is.
Since i need an allrounder pc, not only for gaming.. i will right away get a 9900x i guess. I like that 120 instead of 170tdp, especially when there are 40°C in summer. Even with my fat aio which is almost custom aio performance, its hard to cool down a 7900x. Funnily enough i could only cool 183W of 7900x so i couldnt see its full power because the cpu is getting too hot. Less wattage and 16%+ more IPC are so nice 🤤
I don't think so but regardless of how bad their RMA process was they still have some great products. I have never been disappointed by their monitors because I first bought one of their gaming monitors in around 2016-17 and because I liked the OSD I kept sticking to the brand and never had any factory induced damage and never had to RMA them. I have also used 2 motherboards and 3 GPU's previously from them without faults. IMO Samsung is much worse than Asus. They have terrible SSD's and literally ghost customers who send emails to try and get an RMA. I had a Samsung SSD with a 5 year warranty and it failed and I lost my data (I got it in August 2021 and it died August 2022 and when I first tried to use it my PC didn't recognise it till I reinserted my old drive and had both running side by side as I wanted to use the Samsung as my primary since it was a 2TB Gen 4 and my old was a Corsair 1TB Gen 3 which still works today I wanted a Gen 4 drive for a Gen 4 compatible CPU and GPU and I decided to leave my old SSD in as I thought it was a BIOS or software bug and left it alone because I was tired of troubleshooting and a year later during a CSGO match my PC crashes and then bootloops non stop and it wasn't until I pressed the power button did it stop bootlooping and when it did I could no longer load Windows and a message would come up telling me to repair Windows with a USB drive which did nothing and after a complaint they ghosted me after a couple of emails with proof and it had a 5 year warranty which did supposedly cover my issue and then early last year I see tech news videos of Samsung 980 Pro SSD's with high failure rates and scores of unhappy customers and this was not the first Samsung SSD to have a major fail rate and that was a SATA SSD from like 5 years ago which received a similar response and their website sucks for Warranty claims because it just has an email address they tell you to message with proof of purchase and photos as well as a description of the problem and with the 2 times I have dealt with Corsair RMA they have been so helpful and refunded me/sent a replacement fast within a day or so of receiving my faulty item. I did once RMA an Asus MOBO in like 2020/21 and get a refund for it which I spent on an even better MOBO from them that happened to be on sale for almost the price of the cheaper one but the replacement still didn't work till I realised my Corsair PSU was dead from extensive research because the GPU worked in another PC and my MOBO RGB Was turning on but the power button did nothing and neither did me jumping the power pins together on the MOBO making me think my MOBO or CPU was dead till I found out from the internet that a dead PSU can still send power like this to your components and I still use that newer Asus MOBO which works fine). I wouldn't consider myself an Asus guy but I only use an Asus MOBO and GPU because I have Corsair products in my PC and those two Asus products are compatible with Corsair iCUE and as for the Monitor I had never had one of theirs fail on me since like 2016/17 plus I liked the UI. I still probably wouldn't get their peripherals though and it's because I like to stick to one ecosystem and currently I only have Corsair stuff (besides those 3 things and my Lian Li o11 Dynamic PCMR edition case)
The promises where made by an individual last year not high up in the company and no longer works for them. This one had the global director of customer service making the promise along with several other high up execs involved in the problem. I feel this can be considered their last good faith chance from the community before it becomes a scorched earth situation because this issue has resulted in steady stock price drops over the last month (which I feel is the likely reason they did the sit down in the first place)
@@chemislife Yeah. If this promise is nowhere near as sincere as they say so then we have a problem but like I said before they still have great products and remember when gigabyte was getting roasted and taken down for not fulfilling warranty on dangerous power supplies that they were selling. That got forgotten about but a transistor installed backwards is still being talked about (you could have literally just flipped and soldered the transistor the right way to fix the issue even if their RMA process was not that great but Gigabyte had fire hazard faulty power supplies)
6:12 I rip on ya a lot, but you're absolutely correct about this at least. If the company is showing attempts to fix the problem, you gotta stay the dogs and keep on a leash for a time being.
Here in the Philippines, the gov't imposes 10% import tariff on consumer electronic goods then add up anonther 12% for the import tax & duties and another 12% for value added tax.
ASUS was always my go to for the best products to build with and then they fell short but i will give them another chance if they really hold to this !
Gamers Nexus = Washington Post of CZcams PC hardware world. They have more journalistic integrity in their hand than any of the big publications these days. It is awesome.
The Washington Compost? You're doing Gamers Nexus a disservice by the comparison. Gamers Nexus is more like an Epoch Times level of detail and integrity, which is saying something.
They tested the MX 570? AMD's chip is right up that?! Dang. Guess low wattage RTX wasn't exactly as future proof as I thought it was. I was thinking the MX 570 would be the most power efficient RTX chip ever, but here's AMD integrating those very same features into literal APU... NPU, SAW-REE!
I was planning on upgrading to am5 and getting a 7600x since it's gonna be like $200 when 9000 launches, but if it's really gonna be that cheap, i might as well just get the 9600x
Why would you if you can still wait for Zen 6 which give you more cores on each tier.. Buy old en cheaper now and replace on the end later for much better performance. Zen 5 isnt going to cut it to Zen 4 7800x3d.. x3d would still be faster.
Depends on what you want to do. For multi core load, get a 7900x. For Gaming, get the 7800x3D. They will be better than the 7600x at these tasks at a similar price
I applause Asus for taking action. However, there are consequences for such behavior. They’ve lost me as a customer for at least a few years to see if they feedback about the changes from the community is positive for a long enough period of time to establish it as standard operating procedure. Pretty sure I’m not the only one.
I take whatever has the best bang for the buck, so Asus always being 10-20% more expensive than competitors for the same specs they never had me as a customer.
I can believe those leaked PH prices, prices here will always end up being higher by some $50 usd due to tax and stuff but its safe to assume the msrp in the US will be a great deal lower from the leaked prices
Anyone who thinks Asus will change is seriously delusional. A scummy company will be a scummy company. You just watch for their “improvements” to disappear when they think the heat has died down. Mark my words.
good luck trusting Asus again after what they've done. Obviously they didn't care about any feedback (thus going through all the bad reviews now) until one of the biggest youtube channel actually calling them out. It's called "not being sorry cos we messed up but being sorry cos we got caught", and that's a big red flag.
The only reason ASUS is doing this is because they didn’t realize it was Steve from Gamers Nexus they were going to screw. Just like the Newegg debacle a while back with Steve. It’s sad that it takes an influencer to get companies to change.
I think it's funny how the CZcamsrs always have affiliiate links and they tell you how it "Helps the Channel out". Like it is a living and breathing entity...LOL
@@misaelhp1 Gigabyte refused me a replacement on a gpu that started to artifact after 2 weeks of having it. They said it was dusty. After 2 weeks, it was dusty! I don't think any of these companies are worth their salt.
@@VexxedSR Amazon couldn't help since it a third party seller. Third party seller ignored me. If it doesn't "ship and sold by Amazon" I don't buy after that. On the other hand, why won't gigabyte honor their product warranty?
@@doublecrossedswine112 Do you not have a return item button on the product page? I'd get in contact with Amazon again if no way to return a faulty product, maybe you spoke to a rep that hates their job or on a bad day. I've never had problems in returning an item sold by a 3rd party by only contacting amazon. No idea why gigabyte wouldn't honor the warranty, if things don't go smoothly make a post on PCMR reddit (with proof) so it gains traction and a gigabyte rep sees it.
Actions speak louder than words... Asus didn't prove that they changed... All they did so far was say their are sorry and pretended that nothing happened. People are still getting defective motherboards back form RMA, Asus support still sucks, and they don’t care about you. Honestly I’m done with ASUS. The only motherboard brand I’m going to recommend is Asrock or MSI Gigabyte denies RMA and makes defective products like ASUS
Well, I'm not ready to give Asus full props just yet... Just want to see how everything goes. But I genuinely think it is a massive step in the correct direction for them, so I'll give them a the slightest of the slightest nods on taking corrective action on this issue.
Asus being shitty in India as well. Last month I ordered a Asus Zenbook 14. The latop turned on initially but then turned off by itself. It over a month now, still Asus not doing RMA.
Same, I'm mostly waiting for my country to significantly lower import taxes or for a trip overseas where i can go to a country where price isn't that different to MSRP. Whatever happens first
Asus promising change only when painted into a corner is just Asus looking after Asus. And using mealy-mouthed language like "customers felt compelled" instead of "customers were compelled" shows they still don't admit their unconscionable behaviour.
Sounds like Asus finally got what destined. These companies are HUGE and it can take time for the bad management decisions to affect them. Executives acted, finally, and as expected.
@@otozinclus3593 yea but it is been almost 2 years since Ryzen 7000 came out i think?, 9600 will probably be near 300$ probably... It always happens with launch prices, then it usually slowly drop with time.
@@juanford55 It has been 1.5 years, but yes. That is why the 7600x already dropped in price, it started at 299$ as well. Tech doesn't suddenly drop in price once new one arrives, the price falls steadily even before the new tech gets release, because tech degrading is expected I assume they aim to release very Ryzen 5 X at 299$ for now, then drop prices half a year later like with Ryzen 7000
I truly hope that ASUS has learned that it's cheaper in the long run to just be decent human beings. The cost of getting caught can kill a company in such a competitive market.
Canada Computers, baby. My go-to computer store. Canada's leading pc parts chain, really. Besides BB. Long may they reign, their prices are competitive.
yeah yeah yeah. I still won't buy anything asus. my next gpu will be a refurbed 3090 if I can find one, my next motherboard will be the same as the current one, another Asrock.
This pricing likely wouldn't be possible if they'd gone with 3nm over TSMC 4nm. This round AMD is, once again, fighting with economy vs intel choosing innovation.
Read between the lines; Lower AMD 9950x pricing means the benchmarks and performance is slightly higher than 7950X. These "leaks' and reports of 9950X being 46% increase is a myth. Watch and see; it will be one of the biggest lack luster releases from AMD in recent years. They absolutely cherry picked games in testing and when you read the foot notes, you realize "uh oh".
should i build a pc now im using same graphics card for now but should i get the r9 7950x3d as my upgrade from 11 i7k as it doesnt do as well mutitasking
The 7950x3d cuts its cores in half while gaming or doing workstation loads. Also Microsoft game bar is not great at deciding if it should use x3D cores or higher clock speed cores.
Look at comparisons between the 7950x3d vs the 7950x to see which will benefit more and also if you want to do the extra work to get the 7950x3d working how it should out of the box.
@@MrAnimescrazy idc how it works outa the box it will end up getting oced a little anyways and i was gonna have to do that anyways i was going to get an i9 14k but there so unstable its not worth the hassle and dead platform
guys i recieved an already damaged asus motherboard when i took my old motherboard for rma, found out that the pins on the motherboard were already bent by the time i had reached back home and i reported it back to asus and they said w ecant help you out in this youll have to send it to the service centre to get it fixed, did exactly that and now found out that the ethernet port and the wifi is dead on the board, couldnt check it earlier since i couldnt use the board at all due to bent pins. now asus is just wasting my time by saying we will reach back to you in 3 days every time i try to connect with them... it has been 4 days since i had been told we will reach back to you in 72 hours... can anyone help me out on this... im really tired of beating around the bush.
My suggestion would be to take screenshots of your interactions with ASUS with personal information slashed out and send it to Gamer Nexus to let him that know that ASUS isn’t going squat. In addition keep calling and complaining to them about your issue and send them screenshots In the worse case possible you accept the loss and get a new motherboard. Ideally either an Asrock or MSI motherboard. Also say to ASUS Rep I will tell my friends to never buy your product ever again if you refuse to fix the issue.
Your information about ryzen 9000 is incredibly missleading. The reason 9000 is cheaper than last gen is because it hss no 3D v-cache which makes them slower than last gen. Firget ryzen 9000 and buy a 7800x3D
sorry to tell you but anyone who has any experiences with large companies knows what the asus management said was silver tongued. Those people can tell you business is great and have you believing it while the building is on fire. Its all about how you say it and knowing how the people youre saying it to will perceive it. Id be surprised if any real change comes from it
gamers nexus really goes beyond to saves ASUS they can just drop the case and told us never buy ASUS at all and potentially makes everyone does the same
Built many computers. Asus only one to have a MoBo fail. Also Asus graphics card fail. Now I buy Sapphire GPUs. Never had a problem with Gigabyte or MSI. Asrock had one issue with board not supporting memory overclock with later CPUs, but that was in the supported hardware page so it was honest.
I feel like amd is hurting from their gpu sales so they really need a win and want to sell their CPUs at a better price. Or intel has something up their sleeve that we have yet to see.
I can't wait to hear about Asus's next scandal in a few months. Gamers Nexus will be reporting how Asus's new Rtx 5090 blows up your motherboard and refused to admit blame.
jeepers cpu's are getting expensive. im pretty sure my 5900x was only around $600nzd, which is about $300USD. and even that seemed pricey to me. but it looks like the 9900x would be about $1200NZD. which is more than i paid for my used rtx3080ti a few years ago. i have bought cars for about that price. its getting absurd.
Every tech channel talks about the same things. This guy just has the most professional approach to giving us the news. Tells us everything we might want to know and throws his opinion on things every now and then.
Asus should really change their work culture as they only focused on the looks of the products not performance, they were before the brand to go when you want the best of the best but now they're only the best looking (its subjective some people don't like their style) but not the best performing but still the most expensive. if they are going to charge that much they should at least deliver on the performance.
ASUS can charge whatever they want, if you don't like it, don't buy. Gamers Nexus wasn't this "interested" with Nvidia when the cable debacle happened, or with the Nvidia program to force companies to NOT make products for AMD.
I think, the asus rma changes are applicable to US & European customers only ; the rest of the world will continue to be abused & ignored by asus imo. Highly priced but poor after sale service...
i wasnt going to upgrade from my 7950x ... but if they got the X3D stuff figured out... so its on all cores and doesn't need switching and whatnot... im definitely going to get that 9950x3d. especially if i can get at least 350 or 400 for my used chip. Man... the hits just keep coming for intel. i ALMOST feel bad for them.
To much coverage for Asus, which is undeserved. I had bad experience with their product and support, never buying an Asus product ever since and is well since then. To bad as their MB we’re really good back a few years ago. Their support for MB is one of the worst, similar to Gigabyte.
Just because of Gamer's Nexus? No. But I think all the bad press has gotten to them or there's no way they'd have had the VP of Customer Service directly involved. They'd have done what they did last year and pawn it off on a lower level employee with just an email.
Some haters accused Steve and Gamers Nexus for being drama queens and hate baiters etc. Well if this is the kind of positive influence their "drama" can make, GET US MORE.
Steve from gamer nexus yes not so much for the other steve
In general, as one who have followed several channels about tech... I've noticed an increase in DRAMA, in the style of (day 1 AMD will swipe the floor with Intel), (day 3 - AMD fails in deluvering), day 5 AMD faster than anyone thought, day 7 AMD poor performance...
This IN GENRAL is clickbait and DRAMA just to try to get views (no matter the facts).
To raise critque towards this kind of behaviour is not to be a hater!
Asus living to thier name = A Sus
SUS? AMOGUS?
A SUS PEG
Asus are SUS.
A Zus according to this guy
Anus
Just an added info: Philippine pricing are always tax and fees included. So you can probably shave of at least $75-200, if we are talking about msrp without tax.
Fck u for leaking this
Yeah I find other countries so weird for making customers calculate the real total cost.
@@John.Philip.Tan876 Well you can't blame those countries, like USA(lol or you could). However, it's really because each of their state have different tax laws. So they can't universally give the exact price. Only the before tax price are provided and depending which state they are, the taxes on that state are applied. But if you get used to it, you can pretty much give a ballpark estimate on how much the tax would be from the msrp. As for countries like Philippines, who only follow one taxation law, stores and businesses can and do provide after tax pricing onset.
@@kitnomanHow would different tax laws exclude the practicality of showing the total cost for the customer? I’d understand if it’s a business and do tax write offs, but out of perspective from a consumer it’s a hassle.
@@kitnoman For online shopping the tax rate the business is in applies, not the customer.
In Europe it is the tax rate of the customer that applies, yet here retailers calculate the local tax rates correctly...
So the argument doesn't really work at all, since it is not true, and places where it is true, include tax in the price...
I hope the AMD price drops are real and not just a hype rumour. W prices
These youtubers always hype stuff up for clickbait.
@@thetheoryguy5544yeah this guy has the biggest click bait in this category.
i want new AM5 Ryzen 3 cpu for budget build.
@@rasky2684 He should have to donate 5% of his net worth to a charity chosen by the community every time he clickbaits or spews nonsense.
@@VexxedSR what your trying to do bankrupt him? 😂
Formally implemented changes (when only in the news). I’ll wait 10 years for positive users reviews before I change my buying preferences. Why wait 10 years? That’s how long I noticed how bad their RMA process is.
Exactly. Now they promise to do what they always should have done. Why does anybody recommend or buy from them,?
10? For GPUs, mobos, peripherals and now the ally it's been more like 20+.
Monitor support has been middle of the road oddly enough.
No matter. Just wait for X3D.
Yeah I will wait for reviews for all of the new parts then I will buy.
@@MrAnimescrazySmart
is there a estimate release date for the X3D models yet? i dont seem to be able to find it.
Since i need an allrounder pc, not only for gaming.. i will right away get a 9900x i guess. I like that 120 instead of 170tdp, especially when there are 40°C in summer. Even with my fat aio which is almost custom aio performance, its hard to cool down a 7900x. Funnily enough i could only cool 183W of 7900x so i couldnt see its full power because the cpu is getting too hot. Less wattage and 16%+ more IPC are so nice 🤤
@@bartthebos looks like it wont take too much and will be imporved 3d cache compared to the 7800x3d solution
I don't own any ASUS products; but isn't this pretty much exactly what they said _last_ _year_ ?
I don't think so but regardless of how bad their RMA process was they still have some great products. I have never been disappointed by their monitors because I first bought one of their gaming monitors in around 2016-17 and because I liked the OSD I kept sticking to the brand and never had any factory induced damage and never had to RMA them. I have also used 2 motherboards and 3 GPU's previously from them without faults. IMO Samsung is much worse than Asus. They have terrible SSD's and literally ghost customers who send emails to try and get an RMA. I had a Samsung SSD with a 5 year warranty and it failed and I lost my data (I got it in August 2021 and it died August 2022 and when I first tried to use it my PC didn't recognise it till I reinserted my old drive and had both running side by side as I wanted to use the Samsung as my primary since it was a 2TB Gen 4 and my old was a Corsair 1TB Gen 3 which still works today I wanted a Gen 4 drive for a Gen 4 compatible CPU and GPU and I decided to leave my old SSD in as I thought it was a BIOS or software bug and left it alone because I was tired of troubleshooting and a year later during a CSGO match my PC crashes and then bootloops non stop and it wasn't until I pressed the power button did it stop bootlooping and when it did I could no longer load Windows and a message would come up telling me to repair Windows with a USB drive which did nothing and after a complaint they ghosted me after a couple of emails with proof and it had a 5 year warranty which did supposedly cover my issue and then early last year I see tech news videos of Samsung 980 Pro SSD's with high failure rates and scores of unhappy customers and this was not the first Samsung SSD to have a major fail rate and that was a SATA SSD from like 5 years ago which received a similar response and their website sucks for Warranty claims because it just has an email address they tell you to message with proof of purchase and photos as well as a description of the problem and with the 2 times I have dealt with Corsair RMA they have been so helpful and refunded me/sent a replacement fast within a day or so of receiving my faulty item. I did once RMA an Asus MOBO in like 2020/21 and get a refund for it which I spent on an even better MOBO from them that happened to be on sale for almost the price of the cheaper one but the replacement still didn't work till I realised my Corsair PSU was dead from extensive research because the GPU worked in another PC and my MOBO RGB Was turning on but the power button did nothing and neither did me jumping the power pins together on the MOBO making me think my MOBO or CPU was dead till I found out from the internet that a dead PSU can still send power like this to your components and I still use that newer Asus MOBO which works fine).
I wouldn't consider myself an Asus guy but I only use an Asus MOBO and GPU because I have Corsair products in my PC and those two Asus products are compatible with Corsair iCUE and as for the Monitor I had never had one of theirs fail on me since like 2016/17 plus I liked the UI. I still probably wouldn't get their peripherals though and it's because I like to stick to one ecosystem and currently I only have Corsair stuff (besides those 3 things and my Lian Li o11 Dynamic PCMR edition case)
The promises where made by an individual last year not high up in the company and no longer works for them. This one had the global director of customer service making the promise along with several other high up execs involved in the problem. I feel this can be considered their last good faith chance from the community before it becomes a scorched earth situation because this issue has resulted in steady stock price drops over the last month (which I feel is the likely reason they did the sit down in the first place)
the last ASUS product I owned was a M2N32 Sli deluxe mobo (with wifi). Never again.
@@chemislife Yeah. If this promise is nowhere near as sincere as they say so then we have a problem but like I said before they still have great products and remember when gigabyte was getting roasted and taken down for not fulfilling warranty on dangerous power supplies that they were selling. That got forgotten about but a transistor installed backwards is still being talked about (you could have literally just flipped and soldered the transistor the right way to fix the issue even if their RMA process was not that great but Gigabyte had fire hazard faulty power supplies)
@@zahidshabir4038 yes other companies have had problems but this one was simmering for years before Steve's video across their entire product stack.
Steve is a legend!
He did this because he lost 200$. No one is a hero. asus was doing this for years, but he only started this because he got scamed by asus.
He's trash 🤡
6:12 I rip on ya a lot, but you're absolutely correct about this at least. If the company is showing attempts to fix the problem, you gotta stay the dogs and keep on a leash for a time being.
have to wait for the benchmarks and comparison of the x3d chips before i decide to upgrade
Here in the Philippines, the gov't imposes 10% import tariff on consumer electronic goods then add up anonther 12% for the import tax & duties and another 12% for value added tax.
Gamer Nexus us unstoppable
Thanks again for keeping us informed with timely news. 👍
Meanwhile the 7950x3d is lower than 500 bucks....and faster than the 9950x...I'm good.
Wait for the X3D versions
Whoa... It's almost like buying previous gen is always cheaper, who would of figured that one out?
Faster in gaming. Nobody doubts x3D is best for gaming. But not everybody is a gamer
why would nvidia replace geforce experience now? that app still isn't ready
I have a ton of games that don't work with that app installed on my PC
because the more you buy the more pain you gain.
My Ryzen 5 7600X at 5.2 serves me fine. Seeing as I came from an "old" Intel i5 6600k it was a nice upgrade.
ASUS was always my go to for the best products to build with and then they fell short but i will give them another chance if they really hold to this !
For Nvidia builders, I think we all have a giant hole left in our hearts from EVGA's exit from the market :(
I still miss EVGA
It will take a while before I buy any product for Asus
Same
AsU$ without "U" just and aS$
Gamers Nexus = Washington Post of CZcams PC hardware world. They have more journalistic integrity in their hand than any of the big publications these days. It is awesome.
The Washington Compost? You're doing Gamers Nexus a disservice by the comparison. Gamers Nexus is more like an Epoch Times level of detail and integrity, which is saying something.
that 18500PHP + 12% VAT and another 3% making it around 2200ish pesos. Gotta love PH
They tested the MX 570? AMD's chip is right up that?! Dang. Guess low wattage RTX wasn't exactly as future proof as I thought it was. I was thinking the MX 570 would be the most power efficient RTX chip ever, but here's AMD integrating those very same features into literal APU... NPU, SAW-REE!
asus is kinda sus fr
I have bought the 7800 x3d....I would love the 9800 x3d but I don't think it will be a big jump in performance
I was planning on upgrading to am5 and getting a 7600x since it's gonna be like $200 when 9000 launches, but if it's really gonna be that cheap, i might as well just get the 9600x
Why would you if you can still wait for Zen 6 which give you more cores on each tier.. Buy old en cheaper now and replace on the end later for much better performance.
Zen 5 isnt going to cut it to Zen 4 7800x3d.. x3d would still be faster.
Depends on what you want to do. For multi core load, get a 7900x. For Gaming, get the 7800x3D. They will be better than the 7600x at these tasks at a similar price
I applause Asus for taking action. However, there are consequences for such behavior. They’ve lost me as a customer for at least a few years to see if they feedback about the changes from the community is positive for a long enough period of time to establish it as standard operating procedure. Pretty sure I’m not the only one.
Definitely not the only one.
I take whatever has the best bang for the buck, so Asus always being 10-20% more expensive than competitors for the same specs they never had me as a customer.
I can believe those leaked PH prices, prices here will always end up being higher by some $50 usd due to tax and stuff but its safe to assume the msrp in the US will be a great deal lower from the leaked prices
I was a fateful customer for almost 30 years to Asus, from the beginning - NEVER AGAIN!
Will wait probably for 3dx to replace my 10700k
I may wait for the x3d versions come out to upgrade. I got pretty spoiled with that extra cache.
wait wait wait a long.
Meld saying Amd pricing lower, me living in India 18% gst hold my beer
Anyone who thinks Asus will change is seriously delusional. A scummy company will be a scummy company.
You just watch for their “improvements” to disappear when they think the heat has died down.
Mark my words.
Why put links up to Amazon for these products that are clearly not available?
Gamer Meld addressed that in the video. He clearly states the links are there for "when they are available" at the end.
Salute to GamerNexus for spearheading the Asus RMA issues and actually bringing justice to people.
good luck trusting Asus again after what they've done.
Obviously they didn't care about any feedback (thus going through all the bad reviews now) until one of the biggest youtube channel actually calling them out.
It's called "not being sorry cos we messed up but being sorry cos we got caught", and that's a big red flag.
The only reason ASUS is doing this is because they didn’t realize it was Steve from Gamers Nexus they were going to screw. Just like the Newegg debacle a while back with Steve. It’s sad that it takes an influencer to get companies to change.
Independent journalism is the way.
Starting to look like the 9000 series has problems IMO.
they are not super fast.. Only a tiny little hair.
I think it's funny how the CZcamsrs always have affiliiate links and they tell you how it "Helps the Channel out". Like it is a living and breathing entity...LOL
ASUS is A RAT there's literally a X670 a good price and I really want it but with that mentality and way of doing things NO MOBO FROM ASUS
I used to consume Asus since 2001 and I have like two years that I switch to Gigabyte Im happy with the change. ( had problems with RMA)
@@misaelhp1 Gigabyte refused me a replacement on a gpu that started to artifact after 2 weeks of having it. They said it was dusty. After 2 weeks, it was dusty!
I don't think any of these companies are worth their salt.
@@doublecrossedswine112 why even go through the manufacturer if you only had it for 2 weeks? Just return it to the store you bought it from lol
@@VexxedSR Amazon couldn't help since it a third party seller. Third party seller ignored me. If it doesn't "ship and sold by Amazon" I don't buy after that. On the other hand, why won't gigabyte honor their product warranty?
@@doublecrossedswine112 Do you not have a return item button on the product page? I'd get in contact with Amazon again if no way to return a faulty product, maybe you spoke to a rep that hates their job or on a bad day. I've never had problems in returning an item sold by a 3rd party by only contacting amazon.
No idea why gigabyte wouldn't honor the warranty, if things don't go smoothly make a post on PCMR reddit (with proof) so it gains traction and a gigabyte rep sees it.
Actions speak louder than words... Asus didn't prove that they changed... All they did so far was say their are sorry and pretended that nothing happened.
People are still getting defective motherboards back form RMA, Asus support still sucks, and they don’t care about you.
Honestly I’m done with ASUS.
The only motherboard brand I’m going to recommend is Asrock or MSI
Gigabyte denies RMA and makes defective products like ASUS
Well, I'm not ready to give Asus full props just yet... Just want to see how everything goes. But I genuinely think it is a massive step in the correct direction for them, so I'll give them a the slightest of the slightest nods on taking corrective action on this issue.
Asus waifu edition mobos next?
Asus being shitty in India as well. Last month I ordered a Asus Zenbook 14. The latop turned on initially but then turned off by itself. It over a month now, still Asus not doing RMA.
Actions speak louder than words... Asus didn't prove that they changed... yet.
9:03 for the title
It looks like I'll be stepping up to AM5 this fall. I may go 9000, depending on how the 7000 parts are discounted (and benchmarks).
Same, I'm mostly waiting for my country to significantly lower import taxes or for a trip overseas where i can go to a country where price isn't that different to MSRP. Whatever happens first
Asus promising change only when painted into a corner is just Asus looking after Asus. And using mealy-mouthed language like "customers felt compelled" instead of "customers were compelled" shows they still don't admit their unconscionable behaviour.
Sounds like Asus finally got what destined. These companies are HUGE and it can take time for the bad management decisions to affect them. Executives acted, finally, and as expected.
+300$ for a 9600X 🤨?, im not paying that amount for a Ryzen 5, i think im gonna wait like a year for prices to drop.
7600x is 230$. The non-x and F versions are the budget ones
@@otozinclus3593 yea but it is been almost 2 years since Ryzen 7000 came out i think?, 9600 will probably be near 300$ probably... It always happens with launch prices, then it usually slowly drop with time.
@@juanford55 It has been 1.5 years, but yes. That is why the 7600x already dropped in price, it started at 299$ as well.
Tech doesn't suddenly drop in price once new one arrives, the price falls steadily even before the new tech gets release, because tech degrading is expected
I assume they aim to release very Ryzen 5 X at 299$ for now, then drop prices half a year later like with Ryzen 7000
I truly hope that ASUS has learned that it's cheaper in the long run to just be decent human beings. The cost of getting caught can kill a company in such a competitive market.
I'm pretty sure CAD is pronounced "Canadian."
Canada Computers, baby. My go-to computer store. Canada's leading pc parts chain, really. Besides BB. Long may they reign, their prices are competitive.
only the product isn't actually listed on their site. if it WAS it was clearly in error, as its been removed.
If it plays better than my 7800x3D then I’ll buy it
My feelings toward ASUS will continue to be the exact same as ASUS' feelings towards the customer for the last decade and will stay that way.
yeah yeah yeah. I still won't buy anything asus. my next gpu will be a refurbed 3090 if I can find one, my next motherboard will be the same as the current one, another Asrock.
Asus has been doing this for YEARS... Never again...
This pricing likely wouldn't be possible if they'd gone with 3nm over TSMC 4nm. This round AMD is, once again, fighting with economy vs intel choosing innovation.
Read between the lines; Lower AMD 9950x pricing means the benchmarks and performance is slightly higher than 7950X. These "leaks' and reports of 9950X being 46% increase is a myth. Watch and see; it will be one of the biggest lack luster releases from AMD in recent years. They absolutely cherry picked games in testing and when you read the foot notes, you realize "uh oh".
I brought a Asus tuf Rx 7900 xtx OC gpu just before I found out all this stuff...
should i build a pc now im using same graphics card for now but should i get the r9 7950x3d as my upgrade from 11 i7k as it doesnt do as well mutitasking
The 7950x3d cuts its cores in half while gaming or doing workstation loads. Also Microsoft game bar is not great at deciding if it should use x3D cores or higher clock speed cores.
Look at comparisons between the 7950x3d vs the 7950x to see which will benefit more and also if you want to do the extra work to get the 7950x3d working how it should out of the box.
@@MrAnimescrazy idc i plan to oc it anyways
@@MrAnimescrazy idc how it works outa the box it will end up getting oced a little anyways and i was gonna have to do that anyways i was going to get an i9 14k but there so unstable its not worth the hassle and dead platform
@@fazzgoescrazy Then i suggest waiting for the 9950X3D as rumours are they over clock well.
It looks like the same chips as last gen according to the clock speeds
guys i recieved an already damaged asus motherboard when i took my old motherboard for rma, found out that the pins on the motherboard were already bent by the time i had reached back home and i reported it back to asus and they said w ecant help you out in this youll have to send it to the service centre to get it fixed, did exactly that and now found out that the ethernet port and the wifi is dead on the board, couldnt check it earlier since i couldnt use the board at all due to bent pins. now asus is just wasting my time by saying we will reach back to you in 3 days every time i try to connect with them... it has been 4 days since i had been told we will reach back to you in 72 hours... can anyone help me out on this... im really tired of beating around the bush.
My suggestion would be to take screenshots of your interactions with ASUS with personal information slashed out and send it to Gamer Nexus to let him that know that ASUS isn’t going squat. In addition keep calling and complaining to them about your issue and send them screenshots
In the worse case possible you accept the loss and get a new motherboard. Ideally either an Asrock or MSI motherboard. Also say to ASUS Rep I will tell my friends to never buy your product ever again if you refuse to fix the issue.
Also if you bought this on Amazon you might be able to get your money back from them if it’s under 1 year since you purchased it.
Company wants to make money, with least effort.
Don't forgive so easily.
Got a 7800x3d for 260 so we straight
Your information about ryzen 9000 is incredibly missleading. The reason 9000 is cheaper than last gen is because it hss no 3D v-cache which makes them slower than last gen. Firget ryzen 9000 and buy a 7800x3D
sorry to tell you but anyone who has any experiences with large companies knows what the asus management said was silver tongued. Those people can tell you business is great and have you believing it while the building is on fire. Its all about how you say it and knowing how the people youre saying it to will perceive it. Id be surprised if any real change comes from it
gamers nexus really goes beyond to saves ASUS
they can just drop the case and told us never buy ASUS at all and potentially makes everyone does the same
Built many computers. Asus only one to have a MoBo fail. Also Asus graphics card fail. Now I buy Sapphire GPUs. Never had a problem with Gigabyte or MSI. Asrock had one issue with board not supporting memory overclock with later CPUs, but that was in the supported hardware page so it was honest.
I feel like amd is hurting from their gpu sales so they really need a win and want to sell their CPUs at a better price. Or intel has something up their sleeve that we have yet to see.
I can't wait to hear about Asus's next scandal in a few months. Gamers Nexus will be reporting how Asus's new Rtx 5090 blows up your motherboard and refused to admit blame.
if you do a title about AMD i expect to start with AMD ^^
Lol content creators taking a stand 💪
Why CZcamsrs plaster their face over graphics, I just don't know.
jeepers cpu's are getting expensive. im pretty sure my 5900x was only around $600nzd, which is about $300USD. and even that seemed pricey to me. but it looks like the 9900x would be about $1200NZD. which is more than i paid for my used rtx3080ti a few years ago. i have bought cars for about that price. its getting absurd.
Well damn, good for all affected. I may just re-consider buying an Asus product again eventually
Does this channel have any original content or do you only talk about stuff that other people already did? 🤔
He is a tech channel. There are many of them on youtube so they will talk about a lot of the same things.
Every tech channel talks about the same things. This guy just has the most professional approach to giving us the news. Tells us everything we might want to know and throws his opinion on things every now and then.
GeForce app???? What is that???
Asus should really change their work culture as they only focused on the looks of the products not performance, they were before the brand to go when you want the best of the best but now they're only the best looking (its subjective some people don't like their style) but not the best performing but still the most expensive. if they are going to charge that much they should at least deliver on the performance.
What you’re saying is definitely not true at all.
ASUS can charge whatever they want, if you don't like it, don't buy. Gamers Nexus wasn't this "interested" with Nvidia when the cable debacle happened, or with the Nvidia program to force companies to NOT make products for AMD.
He's a clown hair clown 🤡
Aye-Zeus
IF these chips have AI on them, im more than Dubious of the exploits and related issues that may result in endless patches trashing the performance.
CPU hopefully sorted, now I want a 870e AM5 motherboard, then a 5090 ... I will be happy.
That asus knows about that shit that they are doing in rma to there customers
Great news on Asus on improving this process. I really like my Asus laptop. I will go with Asus on my next GPU.
Please don’t. They haven’t implemented the actions.
I don’t trust ASUS one bit
The AMD price drop is because the 79xx series is better and faster than the 9xxx.
In about 10 minutes of the video the see rumor prices.
I hope ASUS does what they say.😊
I think, the asus rma changes are applicable to US & European customers only ; the rest of the world will continue to be abused & ignored by asus imo. Highly priced but poor after sale service...
Disney should learn from Asus
i wasnt going to upgrade from my 7950x ... but if they got the X3D stuff figured out... so its on all cores and doesn't need switching and whatnot... im definitely going to get that 9950x3d. especially if i can get at least 350 or 400 for my used chip. Man... the hits just keep coming for intel. i ALMOST feel bad for them.
To much coverage for Asus, which is undeserved. I had bad experience with their product and support, never buying an Asus product ever since and is well since then. To bad as their MB we’re really good back a few years ago. Their support for MB is one of the worst, similar to Gigabyte.
Bruh! Ryzen 5 9000 pricing is almost similar to 7800x3D.
the biggest clickbaiting and over hyping channel on youtube
Should i wait for 7800x3d get cheaper or buy new 9000th ryzen
depends if you play heavy rts games.. otherwise even a 5800x3d would suffice on all 4k games
If anyone thinks Asus will actually change because of Gamers Nexus, I have a bridge I want to sell you...
Just because of Gamer's Nexus? No. But I think all the bad press has gotten to them or there's no way they'd have had the VP of Customer Service directly involved. They'd have done what they did last year and pawn it off on a lower level employee with just an email.
Still waiting to see if the 9950X3D will have 3D memory across all cores. If it does, that's the one to go with
But..../take a drink
GamerMeld, do you prefer Bagels or croissants ?
for the philippine prices... it is usally higher by 10%-25% compared to US prices. since our prices includes the tax