Jim Cornette on Walter Becoming Gunther
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2022
- From Episode 415 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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WWE: "If it ain't broke, break it so that we can say WE fixed it"
Wwe or all Goverment? 💯😂😞
WALTER's persona, name, entrance music and style are perfect for him. The WWE has to mess with perfection.
As always WWE puts a hat on a hat!
One of my favorite Pro wrestlers, So so perfect. Walter is a way cooler and meaner sounding name than Gunther..,
He wouldn't let WWE trademark Walter.
They always do
Didn't wwe drop the trademark for Gunther
Best believe he's going to be the new Kozlov. Getting his comedy routine ready.
Bringing back Ezekiel Jackson to be his dance partner😁
I always said he looked like him, the Austrian Kozlov. And now they'll screw him similarly as well.
Pair him up with the modern day Santino, Matt Riddle, and he is all set
Can't wait for him and santino to have a tea party lol
Bring on a midget dressed as a bear so he can truly get over
I think it's safe to say we've been waiting for this all week
Yup😂
The Last of Us Part 2’s story and characters were absolute steaming garbage.
@@BishopM1 The first Last of Us is my favorite game of all time so I changed my profile pic to this picture back in 2015. And while I didn't love the LOU2 is it BAD no. I've played through it twice and I skipped all the "leaks" that happened at the time so my perspective was fresh on the game. I haven't played it in almost 2 years so I'll have to play it a third time.
That’s a trash game,
The original Last of us still the best
Good to see Vince did his thing and managed to screw up the only show that was usually almost never bad....It's actually amazing
Not that amazing lol 😂. Would have been amazing if he hadn’t !!
"Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory " seems to be a fairly common occurrence over there in sports-entertainment land
It’s almost like he fired all the guys that made it good while his son in law was in the hospital
LOL!!! Black and Gold was a failed project that never drew a dime!
Get a clue, smark.
@@XombieLejon66 You smarks are so clueless is hilarious.
If Ilja Dragunov ever makes the main roster he can look forward to becoming
Ivan
Ivan is too close to Ivar from Viking Raiders. Probably would be Dmitri or Vlad or Mikhail.
they would probably change it to Leonid Brezhnev because it sounds russian and no one has that name in history. oh wait....
@@bobsmith8587 i am sure they will copyrigth some gulag commander's name
IF...
Then he can team with Ivar. Ha.
Gunther will soon be Jobbing to Veer & Shanky with any Luck ….. 👀
Get that hate outta your heart
Remember the women's group that consisted of Paige Becky and Charlotte that was going to be called "Submission Sorrority" but they later found out the name was taken by a group of porn stars?
Imagine being part of that meeting and trying your hardest not to burst out laughing at that name
Would have been a great fit for Paige...
well it makes sense that paige is on pornhub it would've worked
So you can never make a mistake?
"fight forever" comes from Terry Funk giving an amazing monologue in one of his shoots.
FOREVERRR
@@Ramekink amen
@@honestreviewer7788 FOREVEEEER
FOORREVVEEEEEEER
@Honest Reviewer, BUT Corny's point, is the fact that in Boxing & in the UFC their fan bases don't chant that shit, SO WHY THE HELL ARE THE FANS IN NXT chanting that shit?
Thank goodness Cornette finally gets to speak about this. Just call him Walter FFS
Apparently they can’t trademark the name “Walter” since that’s his real name
Guess WWE doesn't own the copyright...
@@zak725 same. Basically he wouldn’t sign over his exclusive right to using the name in wrestling so he became Gunther. 😂
Walter is a nerd's name...
@@danielburger1775 obviously not more than Gunther?!🤨
Strong vs Walter was such a great match 👏
Not only was he on NXT, he had a match in the Survivor Series as WALTER....... So to the main roster only fans, he's WALTER. They know this guy! You can't trademark WALTER? Fine whatever. Why not "Walter Stark"?
@ 6:30 I started laughing so hard I thought I was going to have a brain aneurysm.. the level of absolute astonishment and disbelief in Jim's voice was hilarious
3:19 Fight forever is, since kayfabe is dead, the crowd's way of saying "You both are great wrestlers, we are entertained, more please"
Still makes zero sense. Epecially since they're not really fighting, but suppose to simulate fighting.
@@scrappy93 Wow! Something in pro wrestling doesn't make sense. Imagine that 😳 Must be a first
@@Comerford1986 talking about the chant. Get your comprehension up a level champ. "Pro wrestling" lol
@@scrappy93 Why on earth are you be listening to Jim Cornettes podcast if you don’t like pro wrestling?
Initially, I thought WALTER was renamed after Ice King's sidekick penguin in Adventure Time. I was thinking the next thing he was gonna do was going "quack, quack".
"What are you doing, Gunther!?"
Guntherrrr... Why did you Gunt my fries?
"GUNTHER, come to daddy."
Knowing vince, I wouldn't put it past him to try going that route now that the nazi route has been closed to him.
*Wenk*
I was waiting for this all last week, HERE WE GO
Walter has it coming if true.
So let me get this straight..
Naming your BIGGEST STAR after a nazi u boat commander is more marketable than just keeping it walter and just taking a hit on keeping his likeness
What a world we live in smh
Biggest star? On what planet?
@@johnstrika9170 just type in walter WWE on youtube, the matches hes in are tripling the views compared to the rest of NXT..
2.2m for his raw debut.
200k for a fucking episode of 2.0 when the second highest clip was 86k
It's not about marketing it's about WWE wanting to copyright everything.
"He was a preacher in a church and they made him a p imp" -HonkyTonkMan.
The way Jim sang Car 54 I know he's still got a working VCR at home
Corny prolly also has at least a couple of Betamax machines and a laserdisc
You bet your ass he does. He probably watches old VHS tapes of mid south and the midnight express, that's what makes him happy. When wrestling was wrestling! I love Jim but he is the bitter old man who is shaking his fist at the kids who just ran over his rose bushes.
@@TheFailedmessiah Corny has the Midnight Express on DVD. He said that when Bobby (RIP) passed away.
"Fight forever" is the one of the dumbest crowd chants ever.
Imagine that chant in an MMA fight involving McGregor and Khabib😂
AND THE ROCK MEANS..... EVER!!
Followed by "this is awesome". Same reason.
@@johansvanborg5870 "You deserve it" is embarrassing as well.
@@danielburger1775 That one is completely overused and overdone. I'm with you on that one...
It's such an awful name, the backlash from it is going to kill any momentum that he might've had. Terrible decisions everywhere.
I hope gunther reaches the mountain top. But how wwe book he'll probably be lord tensai. Turn into funkasaurus
"Albert, Albert, Albert....."
Considering the first hit of the google machine for name "Gunther":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_(singer)
...yeah, it's pretty much inevitable.
@@ravanpee1325 Gunter means Warrior in German nitwit
Lord Tensai turned into Sweet T
Bruh. What happens when Gunther does the Nazi Salute 😂😂
if he's going to use the name Gunther, his entrance music should be 'the Ding Dong song'
_ohh you touch my tra-la-la, my ding-ding-dong_ ...
Walter is doomed when he gets to the main roster...
Vince has a distinct gift of destroying character that is not his creation.
He also destroys characters that are his creation
Well the name change hasn't done that yet lol.
It's still just a name change at this point. It doesn't look like they're getting rid of Imperium.
I think Brian Last summed it up perfectly. "What the f*uck happened here?".
I sincerely hope Jim continues to refer to him as Walter, as well as every single fan.
Just like the Albert chants
Lmao not the end of the world lol.
@@scrappy93 I hate to say "wait and see", but I'm gonna say it. I agree. They changed his name, not the gimmick. It's not hopeless yet. Seth Rollins is now Seth "Freakin" Rollins, stupid yes but will it derail his career probably not
@@scrappy93 never said it was
We all do. Just as we call Breakker, (Rech)steiner.
Remember, this is the same company that wanted to change Vader's name to "The Mastodon".
Been checking this channel DAILY for this
WALTER! WALTER! WALTER!
It's FUCKING WALTER!
This is equivalent to Jim Herd wanting Ric Flair to become Spartacus. Then again they wanted to rename Vader Mastodon.
Vader would have worked..
"We can trademark him, he's a big Mastodon!"
"Fuck!!!"
@ Pops I remember that video w/Sean Oliver, that Vince impersonation is spot FUCKING on! LMAO 😂😆🤣
Pretty sure the fact that there was a Gunther Stark who was a Nazi Naval Commander was just a coincidence, Gunther Stark wasn't exactly a major name in the Nazi Hierarchy. However I thoroughly agree that suddenly changing Walter's name for no apparent reason made absolutely no sense at all
Coincidence? Maybe? That would prove no one at WWE has the intellect or foresight to quickly check Google, you know, just in case. I mean, wouldn't you check names if you're in the process of trying to copyright one?
With the general lag WWE has on pop culture someone probably just watched Iron Man and thought Stark was a cool last name.
Exactly they just went with a German sounding name.
If you actually do do a Google search you'll see that there are other people named Gunther Stark.
It is the case of this one particular person who happened to be a Nazi 80 years ago with the same name.
The WWE was not going to have him be a Nazi... Is a publicly traded company in no way shape or form would they ever take that PR hit..
Thinking that they were actually going to go with a Nazi gimmick is stupid
@@pudd66 you want to Google names? Google mine, you'll find probably a thousand John Banks' both running around today and who've appeared in the past, more than a few I'm willing to bet were not nice people. Gunther Stark really isn't that unique a name, it's like the German Robert Smith, one happened to be a relatively minor Naval Officer in WW2. I'm not even sure if he was a real Nazi or just a loyal German officer serving his country.
Somebody in creative was watching Barb Wire when they came up with the Nazi Commander for Walter. Lmao
It's like they couldn't find a more generic Austrian/German name so they went for it with Gunther! I think he's extremely talented and I hope they don't waste him like they did Kozlov, he has potential to be the new monster heel.
Kozlov was the shits
Walter was already a lame name, so no biggie
@Dave White meaner schnitzel ha
Walter is also a generic Austrian/German name
@@davidburke7777 walter is such your older uncle or grandfathers name though. like yeah its def eastern European but man is it so bad. not that gunther isnt the guy that serves you coffee at the Coffee Bean...
WWE's creative is impressively bananas, literally the modern day circus.
Can't wait for this is be all his idea.
Wrestling is supposed to be part of the circus. Stop wishing it wasn't.
He's named after the coffee dude from Friends. If I was Walter I would have quit lol
First thing I thought when they changed it I was like Gunther that's the little dude with bleached hair simping for Rachel at Central Perk LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nope worse it was supposed to be gunther starke after a nazi commander
@@robertnewton4362 And I thought WCW calling Jeep Swenson "Final Sollution" was bad.
Even if it was his idea?
@@Cboz1978 It wasn't. As Robert Newton just said, WWE tried to buy the copyright to the name Gunther Starke until someone with a brain informed Vince that Gunther Starke was a Nazi naval captain in WW2.
I had been waiting on Jimmy's thoughts on this since it happened. Gonna sit back and let Jimmy say all he needs to say about this one.
“Gunther Stark was a Nazi U-boat captain” !! 🤣 I almost fell out of my chair !!! 😂😂😂
@@MrManfly that's why the dropped the "Stark" part.
@@scrappy93 Yeah, we know
I'm fine with the name change. I just wanna hear his theme in WrestleMania with a full orchestra
THIS GUY GETS IT
Yep ....Vs Cena
Gunther serves coffee at Central Perk.
RIP Walter lol
Oh how I've been waiting for this video 😂😂😂
Anyone remember years ago, Kenzo suzuki was originally meant to be a decendant of the Japanese emperor during ww2 angry and being bombed? Even was penciled in to for a big feud with Chris benoit, who was world heavyweight champion at he time
"Rody is vertically challenged" 😂
Never change, Jim!
Roderick Strong is the same height as Finn Balor, MJF, Jungle Boy and is taller than Danial Bryan. Not tall in terms of pro wrestling but he’s not exactly Rey Mysterio
I’ve been waiting for this since last week.
Isn't that special?
Rarely do wrestling fans and personalities, be it WWE, AEW or Indie, agree on something.
We all agree though, that this was a terrible idea.
What gets me is that wrestlers make an effort to get over in NXT, NXT UK, 205 Live, and other shows, to get to their PPV Events where the crowd goes wild for them.
Then, when they get moved to the main roster, they start from zero. Walter was a dominant NXT UK champ. He was the leader of Imperium. His name was known to the NXT crowd. Why throw it out?
It's the same with Doudrop, when she was known as Piper Niven.
We? more like you nerds agree, dont include WE on this
@@nybxcrotona What gets me is that wrestlers get over in NXT etc and moved to the main roster, and people still keep expecting that it won't happen. I never got into main roster NXT because of stuff like this
@@pisto30 The thing is, is that NXT never got upgraded to feel like a major player, despite being on National TV.
Guys like Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, and Samoa Joe got some degree of hype coming out of NXT. But then they don't feel like the future of the company because of how they're booked.
But when you have someone like Veer who skips NXT entirely getting promo packages despite being green as grass, you put guys in a bad spot.
@@OongTheLastAirbender So you agree that we should call him Nazi McUBoatFace?
lmao at Jim's Corpse Referee shoutout during the Manscape ad 🤣🤣
I'd imagine there were a lot of Nazi's called Walter too, Gunther is a tougher sounding name for a big bruiser type wrestler. I still don't like how much he's been selling moves from the smaller wrestlers in NXT though, he needs to start no-selling everything besides top rope/finishers.
Walter Rauff/Domberg/Schellenburg..any German name let's face it will have a few Nazi's with it.
Have you noticed HOW he sells those moves ?
They want a "Fight Forever!" Watch Rowdy Piper's epic battle for sunglasses on They Live.
Or the Kitchen fight from Raid 2
I didn't think that they could up with a name change that was dumber than giving Keith Lee the name "Bearcat", and here they are effortlessly making a worse move by trying to rename freaking Walter of all people. I will not recognize this name change, ever. I wonder what substances the people behind the scenes of WWE have been injecting in between their toes to come up with something like this.
EDGELORD
If Wolfgang Petersen had Walter to play his captain, his movie would've been box office gold.
Wolfgang would of been a much better choice. To english ears Wolfgang sounds cool. Gunther and Walter as well to be honest sound a bit silly and completely non threatening.
I’ve been looking forward to this all week
Wow, I forgot about “Car 54, Where Are You?”. I used to see reruns of that on Nick at Nite when I was a kid.
Look up Gunther on CZcams. "Oooow my tra la la " back in 2009 me and my buddies would laugh our asses off at that shit.
OMG the manscaped promo had me dying. 🤣
The burial of WALTER.
Goodnight sweet prince
WWE can't trip over themselves fast enough 😂😂
Why can’t we have ever keep nice things 😭😭😭????
(Regarding Walter’s Name)
Not gonna lie, if Wwe ruins Walter, I hope Aew gets rid of some of those indie wrestlers and bring Walter in and finally have a good wrestler who can wrestle and not have to do some kind of spot
Watch, in a month he will debut on RAW with a helmet on and his music changed to something "happier".
Even on the CZcams video on their channel, it's WALTER. WHY?! JUST WHY?!
Where's the waa waa waa waa sound effect when you need it?
Apparently, the one person in Stamford who knew how to use a search engine was among the people they kicked out during the last wave of firings.
Seriously, they filed an application for a trademark without checking if anything problematic could be associated with it? That's fundamental incompetence. Failure at the most basic level. Then again, this is the company that lost its brand name and logo because they were too stupid not to violate an agreement with an influential international organisation and too stingy to hire a top-shelf law firm with expertise in British trademark law.
Vince always wanted to be the Walt Disney of wrestling. He still runs a Mickey Mouse operation, no matter how big it has become. Once a carnie, always a carnie.
They're stuck inside the WWE bubble
@@pisto30 problem is WALTER is from the WWE bubble already
At least WALTER wasn't repackaged as a Nazi or Nazi-esque sympathizer. That would sent the entire wrestling world into WWIII.
He's always been right on the edge of that, though. He has the look without the uniform, he has the presentation without the actual statement. That's tough to pull off.
They wouldn't put a nazi on tv dressed in wrestling attire. Cough mlw the stormtrooper..
@@roebuckmckinney Stoic Europeans using classical music for an entrance =/ = Nazi. That's you reading "Nazi" into it. They always presented themselves as sophisticated wrestlers who wanted to bring dignity and class to wrestling. Nothing more, nothing less.
How long before he dances for the fans as a fun comedy segment?
The puppy dog bit killed me
I had to get my popcorn for this one.
"Weighing at somewhere over 200 pounds, from West Fuckwad, Indiana... Tiiiiiits Mcgee!" (With Finkel's voice)
With Gunther I just hear the ding dong song. "Oh You touch my tralala, my ding ding dong."
I'm expecting Vince to come up with a young Adolf anytime now.😂😂😂
3:06 Honestly if chanting "fight forever" was a thing at UFC cards (as in if the crowd was familiar with that chant) I'm pretty sure it would've broken out during the recent Justin Gaethje and Michael Chandler fight. That was all the people were talking about online after the card. How they wish these guys would've fought forever, me included!
Even gaethje said they should have fought till the end like gladiators.
It would've happened in the last card too. Figgy Moreno 3 was wild.
@@darthjones1996 yeah man
you do realize the Gaethje fight happened at November in UFC 268 not 269 right?
@@andrewvazquez1936 yes I do.
But man I hope gaethje beats olivera his performance against chandler was spectacular.
Been waiting for this
The 4-5 chants, as I call them (4 syllables of words, 5 claps) are the fucking worst:
"This is awesome"
"Fight forever"
"We want tables"
And the still used what chant..
@@STRONGERTHANDEATH0.01 Yep
Looks like WWE stepping in a pile of Gunther.
Das namencrappen
Dont split on your wife and family-- the END. lol
audio expert brian last with the HUMMMMMMM everytime he speaks.
Jim Cornette shouting out my hometown! Jackson Heights, Queens. QGTM 🙌🏽
Whoomp there it is
The manscaped commercial commentary was golden.
"Poor Ol Roddy" is Strong's new name
Was waiting for this
Walter does not need your prayers, Gunther does.....
Next he'll be Gunther the Party Animal.
Vince: Hey pal how're your dance moves
When I'm watching at home yelling "fight forever" I mean the two opponents have so much chemistry and it's such a good match I want to see more. Of course I want my favorite to win but I'm also looking forward to the rematch. "Fight Forever" to me at least, means this is a standard of good wrestling
when Gunther reaches the main roster, his music will be ""Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)"
Gunter glieben glauten globen
Give it to me, baby!
Uh huh, uh huh!
Give it to me, baby!
Uh huh, uh huh!
Give it to me, baby!
Uh huh, uh huh!
I was waiting on this one
Gunther will be coming out in lederhosen & an oompah band will be playing his entrance music by July.
He'll look like Clark Griswold in European Vacation when he's dancing at Oktoberfest.
@@ShaFnZAM Mother of God.....
Storm trooper outfit and the third reich march..
Great transition jim to manscape hahaha
Jim saying “clean balls” made me laugh out loud…
I was thinking of circus animal trainer Gunther Gebel-Williams.
5:12 Jim singing the Car 54 theme xD
13:28 one of the best ad transitions ever lmao
The best thing about this is Corny's Manscaped promo.
"Roddy is vertically challenged" 😆
4:55 Oh right I thought it was just a random name they plucked out of the air for him 😅
I will now chant “Fight Forever” now at the local indie card.
RIP Walter
That was the best manscaped promo ever
You mean like Gunther Toody? Oooo! Francis!
Been waiting on this! 😆 🤣
Muhammad Hussain was fantastic. He did such a great job in that role.
First and foremost changing Walter’s name is stupid but to pretend that there weren’t 100,000s of German Nazi’s with names is dumb. Like my name is David Brown, I’m sure someone with some connection to American slavery had that name, that doesn’t mean my parents wanted to name me in support of slavery.
THANK YOU!!!
Honestly David Brown reminds me of John Brown who was a very well known abolitionist.
What a seg way hahaha i spat my tea out cheers jim 🤣🤣🤣
As SOON as i heard Walters new name , i KNEW Jim would make the Car 54 reference ! HAHA !!!! Maybe they could combine the two characters names . Gunther Muldoon !!!! lol Might as well . WTF .
"Drips off his bones like a used balloon" 😂
WALTER has been there 2-3 years, why change his name now?! 🤣