Jim Cornette Reviews MJF vs. Adam Cole on AEW Dynamite

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2023
  • From Episode 487 of the Jim Cornette Experience
    Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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Komentáře • 631

  • @ice8259
    @ice8259 Před 11 měsíci +135

    7:50 Hearing Jim be thrilled about this spot genuinely warms my heart. The way he expressed about it made him sound like he was a young boy again watching wrestling during its glory days. It's small moments like this in MJF's matches that really remind you what the essence of wrestling is/was

    • @lbo87
      @lbo87 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Validation posting.

    • @bakslayer3032
      @bakslayer3032 Před 11 měsíci

      The Jews pay marketing firms to load up their comments with fake accounts.

  • @KenWrecks
    @KenWrecks Před 11 měsíci +10

    “Basement mark with a sock on his head.” 😂😂😂

    • @aiden022
      @aiden022 Před 11 měsíci +2

      That line killed me 😂

  • @SamsarasArt
    @SamsarasArt Před 11 měsíci +160

    I thought this was a pretty good match. One of Adam Cole's best matches since coming to AEW

    • @WorthlessClips
      @WorthlessClips Před 11 měsíci +1

      Pretty good ? It was fucking amazing. Why the FUCK are you trying to act cool and play it down ?

    • @greghuffman3061
      @greghuffman3061 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Im trying to figure out what the running the ropes move at 18:30 is he's talking about

    • @jonathancartwheelfruitloop3071
      @jonathancartwheelfruitloop3071 Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@greghuffman3061when each men were trading blows, they both turned their back while their opponent was just standing there giving them the opportunity to attack them from behind. It makes it look less realistic and Jim wasn’t a fan of it.

    • @bootneyfarnsworth2844
      @bootneyfarnsworth2844 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ​@@jonathancartwheelfruitloop3071 He's never been a fan of turning your back on your opponent in order to run into the ropes. Basically, u have a guy standing there looking stupid while his opponent turns his back. Where if it was a real fight u would run up and hit your opponent in the back of the head when he turns his back

    • @mrpink99
      @mrpink99 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@bootneyfarnsworth2844 Yup. Convoluted wrestling wring physics 101

  • @xShoTime83x
    @xShoTime83x Před 11 měsíci +32

    To be fair, there were time calls. 15 minutes in Justin Roberts called it, being so low in the mix it was barely audible though.

    • @danielherlihy2408
      @danielherlihy2408 Před 11 měsíci +6

      I heard it too, and then I realised that they were definitely going to do a time-limit draw, lol

  • @jamesblevins5088
    @jamesblevins5088 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Put Adam Cole in a Giant Gonzalez style body suit with airbrushed muscles. He could be "Midget Gonzalez"!

  • @masterairhart
    @masterairhart Před 11 měsíci +54

    Listening to all of the pointers Corny has for these matches makes me wish he was an agent for AEW & also wish the wrestlers in AEW actually listened to the agents.

    • @Saddler1944
      @Saddler1944 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Best part of AEW to me is the idea that these guys once popped a crowd of 15 people at a PWG show so they have the business figured out 😆

    • @Poppa417
      @Poppa417 Před 11 měsíci

      Man stfu, if he wanted to be involved in that shit show he would but he doesn’t because it’s a SHIT SHOW!!😂😂😂😂

  • @segagenesis7708
    @segagenesis7708 Před 11 měsíci +124

    MJF made Adam Cole look exponentially better than he has actually been the past two years. No spamming moves, no spamming false finishes. Adam didn't sell his arm effectively. Like, dude, this guy's been killing your arm and you sell for all of five seconds, then just get back up and start doing stuff with it like it never happened.

    • @Marcus-xu7hn
      @Marcus-xu7hn Před 11 měsíci +3

      Well he was injured most of that time. There’s not much of a reference to say he made him look better.

    • @Marcus-xu7hn
      @Marcus-xu7hn Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@jasonalexander7089 he’s doing that little stable feud

    • @ExpressDunlop
      @ExpressDunlop Před 11 měsíci +9

      Sadly i think Cole career over in terms of wrestling. He didn't look like he used too. something wrong...

    • @Webbie2689
      @Webbie2689 Před 11 měsíci +16

      @@jasonalexander7089 if Jim sees this comment we’re getting at least 15 minutes on the next show explaining why Moxley is trash.

    • @ImAJuvenile
      @ImAJuvenile Před 11 měsíci

      Cole was selling his arm quite a bit

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 Před 11 měsíci +17

    Adam Cole is Smaller and Less Imposing than Orange Cassidy ….
    Let that sink in. 🕳

    • @mrpink99
      @mrpink99 Před 11 měsíci +6

      He’s smaller and less imposing than Brodie Lee Jr…let that sink in…now think about how much worse things will be once that kid hits puberty

    • @chroniclesofnigeria1358
      @chroniclesofnigeria1358 Před 11 měsíci +3

      mrpink99 I saw a clip of brodie Jr a couple weeks ago and that kid literally grew a foot and a half in a year. Probably helps that his dad was a legit 6ft 5 unit and his mom is 6ft tall and not wimpy herself. Kids probably gonna be a Brickhouse.

    • @Copperstoned
      @Copperstoned Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@chroniclesofnigeria1358 He was looking healthy and jacked at Mania itself. Remember, he was the ‘little’ kid that Cody gave his strap to before the main event.

    • @constablekennedy7705
      @constablekennedy7705 Před 11 měsíci

      @@mrpink99Agreed

  • @dwaynestyles642
    @dwaynestyles642 Před 11 měsíci +83

    I was in attendance for this match… man did the crowd love it. A great way to start the show

    • @bash8387
      @bash8387 Před 11 měsíci +3

      This match was good then the rest happened

    • @andisuge
      @andisuge Před 11 měsíci +1

      Did I hear right around the 15min mark they announced it in the arena right?

    • @202Kev
      @202Kev Před 11 měsíci

      I was there as well. It was a great match to see live. I didn’t care much for the show after that though.

    • @dwaynestyles642
      @dwaynestyles642 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@202Kev I was there until the ROH match with Penta, Fenix, and Hijo Del Vikingo.. which didn’t end until 12:00 AM lol. I didn’t get back home until 2:00 AM

  • @VTCruzer
    @VTCruzer Před 11 měsíci +14

    The one thing I like about New Japan is that they call time. And when it gets close to the time limit, the announcer gets more frantic, and so do the wrestlers.

    • @Frekiwolf
      @Frekiwolf Před 11 měsíci +3

      Yep. Stardom does this too. 😉 (They even have a music theme for a draw. 😂)

  • @Drock7749
    @Drock7749 Před 11 měsíci +63

    Watching an MJF match, as a long time wrestling fan, you can see that he is a long time wrestling fan but he is also a student of the wrestling industry period. On the mic, in the ring, how he walks, how he conducts himself, one of if not the best in the business right now! 100% agree with Jim's assessment of Excalibur, he does need to calm down a bit, slow down talking a bit and watch the monitor! Call the play by play! A great play by play commentator can make a good match great, or a mediocre match good. Not calling out the time was a big miss along with the Ref being out of place on the one count that really mattered! I do HOPE that those involved in the match both on and off screen takes these constructive criticisms seriously and not get butthurt over it, it's all in love of wrestling!

    • @itsnotjayboi
      @itsnotjayboi Před 11 měsíci +10

      True about the mjf party you can tell that he really studied the best of the best extensively. Honestly for the modern day wrestler i think he is the perfect one some other wrestlers should be inspired by because he really takes this shit seriously

    • @bakslayer3032
      @bakslayer3032 Před 11 měsíci

      You're a Jew defending a fellow.

  • @Neonpiss187
    @Neonpiss187 Před 11 měsíci +11

    "Or he has a big Britt baker" actually made me laugh out loud

  • @allensmith4863
    @allensmith4863 Před 11 měsíci +14

    The fan with the hat was over the moon. Because he knew within 30 minutes he would be backstage with ringside seats for the next three AEW shows

    • @herzkine
      @herzkine Před 11 měsíci +2

      ..and a burger...gotta fill those seats...

  • @daleharris3809
    @daleharris3809 Před 11 měsíci +30

    Has Jim ever did a clip this long on just one match? Soon as I saw the length I was like holy smoke

    • @JJMcHurt
      @JJMcHurt Před 11 měsíci +7

      He needed the time to explain how to build the crowd when using a time limit. Fantastic stuff

    • @robbymarton74
      @robbymarton74 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Hmm? You must be new here

    • @daleharris3809
      @daleharris3809 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@robbymarton74 I mean a single match. I know he's done longer clips on other topics

    • @orangemaniabrother2232
      @orangemaniabrother2232 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I think so, I just can't remember which

    • @jamaalmoses8821
      @jamaalmoses8821 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Stadium Stampede,Royal Rumble 92.

  • @jeftothes
    @jeftothes Před 11 měsíci +58

    They should have a last minute warning announcement by the time keeper. Or something to build suspense

    • @James9399_
      @James9399_ Před 11 měsíci +15

      Completely disagree. When they announce it then it builds nothing because you know why they are doing it. Constantly telling you oh there is only 10 mins left… 5 left … 2 left… 1 left… you know the draw is coming.
      Doing it like this was great as I was like holy fuck they are havig MJF lose… then the bell goes and I was like wait what?! Then celebrated when I realised what happened. Much better than having them constantly tell you that time is running out because you know it’ll be a draw.

    • @emanuelfer456
      @emanuelfer456 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@James9399_ That's not true if you do finishes at the last second. Imagine like in football having the last minute goal. I think having a victory at the last seconds gives a bigger reaction from the crowd. I would put the time on every match at corner of TV and on screen. It gives that sport feel and adrenaline of last moments.

    • @laregalade3069
      @laregalade3069 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@emanuelfer456 no and no , its wrestling, not basketball

    • @James9399_
      @James9399_ Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@emanuelfer456 right but you’re talking in the grand scheme. Which yeah, in the bigger picture they should announce time so you never know when the draw is coming. But they don’t do that so if they did it last night you’d know oh the draw is coming.
      But yeah, big picture they should do it every match because then those matches that go near the time limit would be much more exciting

    • @HunterGargoyle
      @HunterGargoyle Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​​@@laregalade3069 think of it this way: wrestling is supposed to be emulating a combat sport, if every match has a timer in the corner you don't need to call it out and if its a constant thing they did for every match not only something they do when they have a draw so you get those exiting last second ko or sub finnishes

  • @booboo7502
    @booboo7502 Před 11 měsíci +97

    These are the type of reviews that those who despise Jim seem to be completely blind to. They retain this idea that he’s irrational and unfair in his criticisms. Which I think couldn’t be further from the truth. I listen often, and hear these sorts of fair and balanced takes from Jim more often than not.

    • @johnnymittle
      @johnnymittle Před 11 měsíci +11

      Eh, you can tell he's gritting his teeth. It gets hard for him when the targets that get him clicks faces off against his 'favourites'. Whatever credibility he had with even his biggest fans should have taken a huge hit by the amount of time he's dedicated to the AEW video game. Something he doesn't care about clearly, but knows having another element to attack AEW will get those clicks.

    • @erikiceberg
      @erikiceberg Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@johnnymittleDude shut up lol. It’s a show, and the audience likes listening to them talk about something out of their element, not just AEW hate (which they have earned).

    • @DisastrousIntentionally
      @DisastrousIntentionally Před 11 měsíci +3

      Jim is fair when it's one of his favourites but a guy like Pockets will never get a fair review.

    • @johnnymittle
      @johnnymittle Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@erikiceberg Not earned in any way shape or form. That's what makes it click bait.

    • @erikiceberg
      @erikiceberg Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@johnnymittle In what way have they presented their show professionally, or as a JOKE. Nothing makes logistical sense on Dynamite, other than the prior inside knowledge you are now REQUIRED to know to watch their programming. The hate is just, and it sounds like hate because people desperately want to support AEW.

  • @vinceraven1501
    @vinceraven1501 Před 11 měsíci +14

    MJF brought out the Adam Cole in Adam Cole in this match.. I know he's had concussion problems, but, since he came to AEW, this was his best match as they've dropped the ball with him vs the Elite at that one point.

  • @nineteenct
    @nineteenct Před 11 měsíci +35

    Felt like Cole was completely outclassed the majority of the match. He’s older and probably not had a chance to workout much I guess, but I felt like for the first 20 mins or so MJF looked like the much higher caliber talent

    • @joeyskywalker1322
      @joeyskywalker1322 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Adam Cole only 33 bro he’s literally in his Wrestling prime

    • @paulmallon9292
      @paulmallon9292 Před 11 měsíci +9

      ​@@joeyskywalker1322he objectively isn't even close to being in optimal shape. Even if he was 28.

    • @Smeeeeeghead
      @Smeeeeeghead Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@joeyskywalker132233?!?! Jeez I would have said in his 40's....

    • @c2thewick
      @c2thewick Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Smeeeeeghead im in my 40s and I can run a 7min mile

    • @nineteenct
      @nineteenct Před 11 měsíci

      @@joeyskywalker1322 The gray in his goatee makes him look 38 easily tbh

  • @dalewalsh2321
    @dalewalsh2321 Před 11 měsíci +25

    Oh man it’s 9pm here in uk, working away In Surry, london, just got in my hotel room and seen this on the tube, quick run to the shop to get some chocolate and crisps or as you Americans say ‘potato chips’ and maybe a beer or 2, 41 mins this is going to be fucking off the charts, thank you Jim and Brian in advance.

    • @jjbjjb273
      @jjbjjb273 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I got home an hour ago working in Enfield my brother got me a takeaway 😁😁😁 as I watch this.

    • @ryanwebb5082
      @ryanwebb5082 Před 11 měsíci +1

      *Surrey

    • @disappointedskeletor8975
      @disappointedskeletor8975 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ryanwebb5082 No one gives a shiny shite about Surrey my man

    • @TomBerishaj
      @TomBerishaj Před 11 měsíci

      For those confused by the exotic usage of English speakers in the UK, "the tube" is what Americans call a TV set. A "beer" is what Americans call a beer.

    • @dalewalsh2321
      @dalewalsh2321 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ryanwebb5082 oh no tell it to someone who actually gives a fuck, this isn’t a spelling test ,

  • @joshszczech7926
    @joshszczech7926 Před 11 měsíci +15

    I feel like the TV title in NWA/WCW went to the 15 minute draw pretty often. It made the return matches more interesting

  • @buttscarlton1490
    @buttscarlton1490 Před 11 měsíci +7

    MJF sells the knee literally every time he does that apron tombstone though

    • @alphatoddio
      @alphatoddio Před 11 měsíci +1

      Oh shit he yells that everytime makes me smile😂

  • @KingNothing710
    @KingNothing710 Před 11 měsíci +7

    This has to be one of the greatest breakdowns and critiques of a match I’ve ever heard before. This wasn’t just a fast lazy play by play summary. Corny passionately broke this shit down to its core both good and bad

  • @JPS47
    @JPS47 Před 11 měsíci +12

    TK is booking Dynamite like a TNA carbon copy. Having a time limit draw without even referencing a time limit throughout the match is a TNA thing.

    • @abinalex8922
      @abinalex8922 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Justin Roberts introduce every singles match as 30 mins & title match as 60 min.

    • @itjustyouraveragecanadian9604
      @itjustyouraveragecanadian9604 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@abinalex8922I don't remember hearing about a time limit being said before the match

  • @Simouno
    @Simouno Před 11 měsíci +32

    Everything MJF is involved in turns out to be great, he is that special

  • @XYBeautiful
    @XYBeautiful Před 11 měsíci +7

    They did actually call 10 minutes left, for the record. Although I agree with Jim that they should call the time in every match with a stated time limit.

    • @johnbarnes4107
      @johnbarnes4107 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Glad I wasn't the only one that heard it...was scrolling through these comments hoping I wasn't crazy after I posted the same thing lol!

    • @DaggerPrince
      @DaggerPrince Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@johnbarnes4107 yee i heard it too.

  • @gothard5
    @gothard5 Před 11 měsíci +51

    Actually, baseball does have a pitch clock now. I am surprised Brian didn’t mention that.

    • @johnnygrind77
      @johnnygrind77 Před 11 měsíci +29

      Because he's a Mets fan and they're too busy yelling at each other and eating.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@johnnygrind77 I mean, what else are you going to do?

    • @InitialDrifterZ
      @InitialDrifterZ Před 11 měsíci +16

      The Mets are the LAST thing Brian wants to think about right now! 😂😂😂

    • @cHriiSzbEe
      @cHriiSzbEe Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@InitialDrifterZ Like what you did there 😉😂

    • @Rko11148
      @Rko11148 Před 11 měsíci +2

      There’s 3 things your always surprised what Brian doesn’t mention
      1. Baseball and the Mets
      2. That he worked as an executive for Sony
      3. His investments and trading haha
      There’s always at some point he will slip one of them in there hahaa

  • @DrRonThomasJr
    @DrRonThomasJr Před 11 měsíci +4

    The time call is also useful other ways. If I am told “give me eight and pin him dirty,” I can start estimating the go-home when they call “5 minutes elapsed.”

  • @jamesmcv
    @jamesmcv Před 11 měsíci +3

    Basement mark with a sock on his head. Damn, Jim has a way with words.

  • @beeaveragegaming3482
    @beeaveragegaming3482 Před 11 měsíci +5

    "But Adam Cole had a concussion" so why the hell did he take a piledriver on the apron and and elbow drop through the table 🤔 😅 GET HIS ASS TO THE GYM 🏋️‍♂️ WTF 😂

  • @inter_1097
    @inter_1097 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Bryan Danielson has 2 draws in AEW. One vs Hangman Adam Page, another vs Kenny Omega. Both Heavyweight title matches too. Surprised Cornette didn't know that.

    • @iggymcfly
      @iggymcfly Před 11 měsíci

      Right? His memory's not so good any more. Moxley and PAC also had a time limit draw and so did Orange Cassidy and Cody.

    • @stevenblakesley
      @stevenblakesley Před 11 měsíci +1

      Omega was the champion but it was not a title match

  • @oconnorliz1204
    @oconnorliz1204 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I genuinely thought Adam was hurt for real just the way MJF was talking to the ref and the ref checking on him, I don't think they knew for a few mins for definite that's why it took so long for the match to get going again. Just my take on it. I may be wrong.

  • @mikekasy4127
    @mikekasy4127 Před 11 měsíci +4

    When Aew first started, I was so looking forward to the possibility of "rules, records, standings" making their way back to wrestling...

  • @PacRimElectric
    @PacRimElectric Před 11 měsíci +6

    To answer Brian's question, yes M. night still makes movies and his" latest and greatest," movie he made Dave Bautista was in it.

    • @chico1680
      @chico1680 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Just saw that movie last week. Dave was pretty good in it I thought

    • @registereduser
      @registereduser Před 11 měsíci

      @@chico1680 I haven’t seen it, but the handful of movies I’ve seen with him, he’s generally been good or really good.

  • @christophercoxdonderoes7665
    @christophercoxdonderoes7665 Před 11 měsíci +2

    At the 10-minute Mark there was a time call. It was announced to the live crowd and it was so nonchalant but I picked up on it

  • @TropicalPriest
    @TropicalPriest Před 11 měsíci +14

    MJF is such a genius for just putting together a highlight reel of his best old PPV spots to do on television. Anyone who wanted to see it has (and if they're like me, enjoyed the callback) and anyone who hasn't was amazed. Dude has a 200 IQ sometimes.

  • @vibezforall99
    @vibezforall99 Před 11 měsíci +3

    30+ min review of a match and no 12 min ad read jibber jabber 😂 rare!

  • @theoelliott4649
    @theoelliott4649 Před 11 měsíci +5

    World Class Championship Wrestling was great for doing this and not just in title matches. It added intrigue to even the opening match .

  • @corona1688
    @corona1688 Před 11 měsíci

    Nice call on the time call..I was so confused at the end, and you summed up exactly why I felt that way!

  • @Topshelfmedia1
    @Topshelfmedia1 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Can’t wait for the collision review.

  • @Webbie2689
    @Webbie2689 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Surprised neither Jim nor Brian remember the Cody Rhodes/Darby Allin match going to a time limit draw. May have only stuck with me because it was the very first AEW match I’d ever watched at that point, though.

    • @jackjarvis2255
      @jackjarvis2255 Před 11 měsíci

      Bryan Vs hangman 1 was a draw too as well as the Kenny match

  • @ADrunkBassist
    @ADrunkBassist Před 11 měsíci +4

    They actually did call the time, I heard it at like the 20 minute mark. That's actually how I knew it was going to be a time limit draw because they don't call the time unless it's going to be a draw. So yeah, that actually did telegraph the finish for me.

  • @banntaylor7323
    @banntaylor7323 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Well, this gonna be a good long ride lol

  • @EvaMaster101
    @EvaMaster101 Před 11 měsíci

    Good review of the match, but there were 2 time calls over the building speakers that could be heard on TV (at least on my feed) for 10 and 20 minutes elapsed.

  • @jamesdulany2176
    @jamesdulany2176 Před 11 měsíci +6

    They actually do time calls in NJPW every 5 minutes.

    • @sigmablock
      @sigmablock Před 11 měsíci +1

      Does it surprise you that AEW doesn't do that, considering Tony Khan formed AEW with then NJPW/ROH wrestlers?

    • @jamesdulany2176
      @jamesdulany2176 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@sigmablock No. Like Jim said, doing time calls has fallen out of fashion over here and I don't think Justin Roberts has ever worked with a promotion that has done time calls in pro wrestling.
      We really need to bring this back, and it's never been easier to do with everybody having a cellphone that has a clock on it so you can keep time with just a couple taps of a button.

  • @cubanpete6764
    @cubanpete6764 Před 11 měsíci +1

    they did call the 15min mark but like how it was in the Danielson vs Omega match, it doesn't sound that clear when they do it and they didn't even call the last minute or so for this one.
    it would be nice if they called the times for every match cause it does kinda give it away when the only times they do call the time increments is when they're doing a time limit draw.

  • @trakficjam17
    @trakficjam17 Před 11 měsíci +21

    The match between MJF and Adam Cole was spectacular from start to finish. TK better keep MJF as long as can because "St. Nick" will be ready in 2024.😂

    • @aaronvega3822
      @aaronvega3822 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Or MJF might say screw both of them and go Hollywood full time

    • @jhb4uk149
      @jhb4uk149 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Jokes on all of us, MJF contract expiration is 2024....December, not January.

    • @DickSocrates
      @DickSocrates Před 11 měsíci

      Punk is better. MJF is boring especially his meaningless promos.

    • @davidstephan5116
      @davidstephan5116 Před 11 měsíci +4

      I thought Andrade vs Buddy Matthews on Collision was better, but this match was great

    • @JSnoop31
      @JSnoop31 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@davidstephan5116 That was a helluva match! Showed these guys can work their asses off if given the opportunities.

  • @GodotOfficial
    @GodotOfficial Před 11 měsíci +3

    Adam Cole looks about as much of a physical threat as Jungle Jabroni

  • @flavioy2f
    @flavioy2f Před 11 měsíci +1

    Jim Cornette roasting M. Night Shyamalan wasn't on my bingo card.

  • @robertwebster1326
    @robertwebster1326 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Well called, J.C. It was a really good match (although I don't really "like" either wrestler all that much). Actually I kind of liked the ending because It seemed a little more legitimate than matches which just "happen" to end on a two count with the refs hand coming down.

  • @benwestover2430
    @benwestover2430 Před 11 měsíci +26

    Adam Cole looked like a high school kid at the community pool. But the match was really excellent.

    • @mr_mogles7304
      @mr_mogles7304 Před 11 měsíci +3

      God damn🤣

    • @blakemaxfield4267
      @blakemaxfield4267 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I wonder what the people saying this look like

    • @benwestover2430
      @benwestover2430 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@blakemaxfield4267 only slightly better, but I know not to make a living on television with my shirt off 😂. That’s how he looked to me in trunks all pale and damp. A tan would go a long way.

    • @tonimaestre96
      @tonimaestre96 Před 11 měsíci

      hahahaha hey, adam get your sandwich

    • @stevonwhite8933
      @stevonwhite8933 Před 11 měsíci

      @@benwestover2430 Yes, sure you do Benny.

  • @Brando-Lee3725
    @Brando-Lee3725 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Urgency is the word of the day thats missing in most matches now . Amongst other things . But if something feels urgent its almost always more exciting . But like Jim said to an extent , you got to condition your fans to thinking time calls are a normal rule , not just in certain matches . Or then it WOULD be obvious like Gabe said .

  • @jokester4824
    @jokester4824 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I rewatched the match again, Justin Robert's did actually mention they were 20 minutes in

  • @Exiled_Rouge
    @Exiled_Rouge Před 11 měsíci +2

    They did announce the time limit for the match. Right at the start and there are announcements in the arena by Justin Roberts or Dasha. It is also on the video screens at AEW shows. I was there.

    • @DarkNorthEmperor
      @DarkNorthEmperor Před 11 měsíci +1

      I think they want the time calls for the match more than just the initial announcements. Despite its current state, NJPW still does time calls.

    • @teecakes
      @teecakes Před 11 měsíci

      @@DarkNorthEmperor Exiled_Rouge is saying they did all the calls in the arena. The audio for the arena mics were either not tied into the TV feed, or the announcers made the 10:00, 5:00 and 1:00 calls during a PIP commercial break during Dynamite. They should've at least put up the graphic of the timer Rouge and the rest of the audience got to see on the AEW-Jaguartron (Jaguars cause tony doesn't own the Tennessee Titans)

    • @DarkNorthEmperor
      @DarkNorthEmperor Před 11 měsíci

      @@teecakes I stand corrected 🤝

  • @johnbarnes4107
    @johnbarnes4107 Před 11 měsíci +1

    They announced it in the arena there are 10 minutes remaining in the match but you would have had to have your TV turned up pretty loud

  • @Am0ment0fB
    @Am0ment0fB Před 11 měsíci +1

    I like to think Tony had no idea about that Vince elbow pad. Ha.

  • @Yellowrose71
    @Yellowrose71 Před 11 měsíci +1

    They do time calls on NWA, when a match is timed. It’s announced on the mic.

  • @adamkramer3259
    @adamkramer3259 Před 11 měsíci

    When youtube decides to play a commercial 15 mins into this clip... right after Jim talked about this matches break spot coming 13 mins in... well I guess I'm invested now, I'm gonna have to finish this clip :D :D :D

  • @LastPancake
    @LastPancake Před 11 měsíci +1

    Yeah i dunno if your audio issues were to blame but on fite i definitely heard the time calls in the arena

  • @asmreatz4686
    @asmreatz4686 Před 11 měsíci

    I was there live. There was at least one time call at the 20 minute mark but just Roberts said very fast and his mic was low. It’s almost like the wanted to announce them but discreetly to still surprise everyone at the end.

  • @ZeonRemnants
    @ZeonRemnants Před 11 měsíci +2

    what's interesting is that when aew first started they had time calls and then after the 1st year or so that just stopped

  • @TheGrowlerCatB2BGame
    @TheGrowlerCatB2BGame Před 11 měsíci +12

    I actually enjoyed this episode of Dynamite. I skipped the last match though. Collision was pretty good too. I enjoyed Punk's match but I was also really into the Andrade/Buddy match. I could have done without that ending though.

    • @laregalade3069
      @laregalade3069 Před 11 měsíci

      i mean ftr and jay juice saved the match, punk is washed now

    • @TheGrowlerCatB2BGame
      @TheGrowlerCatB2BGame Před 11 měsíci

      @@laregalade3069 ahhh he's fine that hot tag was good. He just needs a bit of time to get rid of that ring rust.

    • @laregalade3069
      @laregalade3069 Před 11 měsíci

      @@TheGrowlerCatB2BGame what ring rust, his first run with the company was the same, i call him cm botch now

    • @TheGrowlerCatB2BGame
      @TheGrowlerCatB2BGame Před 11 měsíci

      @@laregalade3069 He wasnt bad at all. Looked a little out of shape but he will get there. Still looks way better than Cole. Tho I feel Cole can go much better than him.

    • @laregalade3069
      @laregalade3069 Před 11 měsíci

      @@TheGrowlerCatB2BGame yo cole can cut some promo ( not like mjf or punk ) but he is a way better in ring performer than punk, punk can only do basic move at this point

  • @Creek_Water
    @Creek_Water Před 11 měsíci +1

    I heard one time call. I think it was 10 minutes remaining, but I’m not sure because it was announced in the arena not TV. Either way they need to really hammer home “5 minutes remaining” and down even if it doesn’t end in a time limit draw. If it happens only 5% of the time the announcers drawing attention to it will keep the audience on edge

  • @anthonyr8906
    @anthonyr8906 Před 11 měsíci +2

    You make the analogy about wanting to sit through a movie and endure everything but then on the other show, you fast-forward through everything and you ask yourself what's going on? Well because you fast-forward through everything that's why you're lost.

  • @James9399_
    @James9399_ Před 11 měsíci +2

    The finish was brilliant. I was completely on the hook for the Cole win. And I like that they didn’t announce it as the match got near the end because when they do that you know the fix is in so to speak.

  • @JaculaDudek
    @JaculaDudek Před 11 měsíci +5

    Adam Cole hit his peak in NXT

  • @nimeshsingh7
    @nimeshsingh7 Před 11 měsíci +2

    41 mins ? Must be a classic.

  • @neilkale8568
    @neilkale8568 Před 11 měsíci +4

    MJF is the Prince of Persia

  • @NickRaymond871
    @NickRaymond871 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Some of the most exciting seconds of a UFC fight is at the end of the final round when the fighter who is going to lose on the judge’s decision to score a KO to steal a win.

  • @sigmablock
    @sigmablock Před 11 měsíci +7

    A detail most of the comments seem to have missed. Re: time limit at around the 28:00 minute mark, NJPW actually does this in all of their matches. I am actually surprised that AEW doesn't let Justin Roberts announce time calls. Try watching one of Tanahashi vs Okada's matches in the one of the previous G1 Climax series, a very prominent example of a good match reaching draw.
    Come to think of it, if MJF and Adam Cole had a match sanctioned by NJPW, it would've been a tense but fun match hearing time calls at 10 minutes, 5 minutes, and 1 minute remaining. Considering AEW was founded by then NJPW/ROH talent, the lack of this detail again, a SURPRISE.

    • @thaywood979
      @thaywood979 Před 11 měsíci

      By announcing the time, the crowd would know the finish. Jim is totally wrong about the finish. Also wrong about showing urgency after a guy just wrestled for 30 minutes. Not realistic at all but I guess that makes sense because he doesn’t actually analyze AEW.

  • @wilcee238
    @wilcee238 Před 11 měsíci +4

    The entire time I was watching the match I was thinking “Atom Cole couldn’t beat Orange Cassidy with help, but he’s toe to toe with the champ?”. AEW books in reverse!
    Tony Khan is “Backwards Man” Tom Green but somehow dumber!

    • @JoseFlores-xc7wu
      @JoseFlores-xc7wu Před 11 měsíci +1

      This is the second time Tony made MJF look weak the first time was when he wrestled Takeshit before that match Takeshit had lost every match he has had on television until the week before his match with MJF that's when he got his first win on television and somehow it took MJF 16 minutes to beat him when the match should had lasted 5 minutes top and it should has been MJF giving Takeshit a wrestling class for 4:50 of that match I would have given Takeshit only 10 seconds of offense and the rest of the match should has been MJF out wrestling Takeshit that's the problem with Tony he doesn't know how to book champions not every match has to be competitive let the champion squash opponents every now and then

  • @rdtbrik1161
    @rdtbrik1161 Před 11 měsíci

    When they hit the time limit, I was confused. Had to rewind and see if they ever mentioned it

  • @CornBreadtm1
    @CornBreadtm1 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Brian is right. They should redo Adam Coles Gimmick. Make him a heel with a bodyguard. Maybe someone big like Keith Lee to really push the parallel of both sides of guys who never go to the gym. Maybe use those pro skills and make him a manager and put a faction around him. Then just shave his head and change his name to something more fitting to the gimmick. The whole Sodo-surfer look and Adam Cole Bay Bay would have to go.

  • @MichaelSmith-fq6hz
    @MichaelSmith-fq6hz Před 11 měsíci +6

    I saw this match more or less live and legitimately thought the finish was an angle. They should do a better job of emphasizing the time limit.

    • @projectgraham414
      @projectgraham414 Před 11 měsíci

      If they do that though, that gives away the finish ahead of time.

    • @MichaelSmith-fq6hz
      @MichaelSmith-fq6hz Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@projectgraham414 Not if they announce time limits in every match.

  • @lookitskazzy
    @lookitskazzy Před 11 měsíci

    New Japan does audibly perform time calls during time limit matches. They might even do it during no time limit matches, but it's been a while since I watched New Japan.

  • @dogred431
    @dogred431 Před 11 měsíci +4

    That's the first Cole match I have seen in a few years. Wow he is looking rough. He seems fit enough, but his physique is completely gone. Normally I don't notice physique, but this was so distracting. He looked smaller than some of the jobbers you used to get in the early 90s.
    I feel really bad for him, as so many injuries seems to have added up over the years and destroyed his workout regime.

    • @stevonwhite8933
      @stevonwhite8933 Před 11 měsíci

      The size people keep clamoring him to return too (ROH), was him at his most unhealthiest he said.

  • @MarcGomezPodcast
    @MarcGomezPodcast Před 11 měsíci +1

    Jim & Brian - You're only talking about Cole's body, because of his body of work! 😆😂

  • @collinsal1433
    @collinsal1433 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I thought this match was so good and had me in the edge of my seat! The finish was executed perfectly too imo. I love hearing Jim’s breakdown of matches, it’s fascinating, but he always notices things that I don’t think normal fans realize.
    also, to be fair, Justin Roberts did do some time calls, it’s just very hard to hear him for some reason during matches they have to mic him better because he sounds like a damn muffled robot

  • @getschwifty9531
    @getschwifty9531 Před 11 měsíci +7

    The fact MJF couldn't immediately put away someone as microscopic as Atom Smol made MJF look like a geek.

    • @jtom416
      @jtom416 Před 11 měsíci +1

      They're the same height

    • @getschwifty9531
      @getschwifty9531 Před 11 měsíci

      @jtom416 hi, atom, I roll joints thicker than your arms.

    • @DickSocrates
      @DickSocrates Před 11 měsíci +2

      Exactly.

  • @locman6228
    @locman6228 Před 11 měsíci +2

    "You couldn't tell for sure" sums up the difference with modern wrestling and wrestling back inthedays. And it wasn't about fake or not, it was just you were dealing with an intimidating person and wasn't sure if this would be the night they snapped and beat everybody in the arena up.

  • @robertevans5205
    @robertevans5205 Před 11 měsíci +2

    This show is amazing am so glad I found it scrolling CZcams one day 🔥🔥

  • @FrozenSurf
    @FrozenSurf Před 11 měsíci

    I heard a time call at 20 minutes by Justin roberts. Might need to go back and check. But pretty certain I heard it

  • @jelaniellington6575
    @jelaniellington6575 Před 11 měsíci +20

    Whole match was 🔥🔥🔥
    Had me invested from bell to bell

    • @Yoni123
      @Yoni123 Před 11 měsíci

      Why wouldn't MJF just hit him with the belt?

  • @Drock7749
    @Drock7749 Před 11 měsíci +18

    AEW would benefit so much from Jim being on payroll, I know he doesn't want to travel but damn it make him a remote consultant! Tony needs more wrestling educators involved!

    • @experienceanimation217
      @experienceanimation217 Před 11 měsíci +9

      They can get his services for free by just listening

    • @InsShogunGage
      @InsShogunGage Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​​@@experienceanimation217Right 👍. As much as ppl wanna say he's just a AEW/modern wrestling hater, he's the opposite; Jim loves the business & he WANTS to see ppl improve.
      He's constantly giving props when due & when he sees a piece of SOMETHING decent in an angle or a wrestler, etc he gives respectful, constructive criticism w/ helpful, genuine advice to help improve it.

    • @previous_leon
      @previous_leon Před 11 měsíci +1

      he was actually approached by tk. when tk said he would be head of creative jim refused. he mentions it on one of his podcasts just when aew started

  • @gm2998
    @gm2998 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Time limit draws are very common in japanese promotions, but there they inform the time each 5 minutes passed. Why they can't do a simple thing like this?

  • @tnpyro24
    @tnpyro24 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I was at this show live, Mjf is a great heel, There was no time limit calls throughout the match so the fans were like WTF, also Bryce Remsburg is a stooge😂

    • @themanwitthreehs9001
      @themanwitthreehs9001 Před 11 měsíci

      I was their live too, like ten mins before the match ended Justin Roberts said soemrhing on the mic saying this match and so and so remaining

    • @tnpyro24
      @tnpyro24 Před 11 měsíci

      @@themanwitthreehs9001 it was loud in there and the audio was messed up all night

  • @rmoore12
    @rmoore12 Před 11 měsíci

    I did hear the time being called by Justin Robert’s, but his mic was too low and was only barely audible on the Fite feed I was watching.

  • @TheZom1965
    @TheZom1965 Před 11 měsíci +36

    MJF is definitely hittin’ the sauce since he got that movie role.

    • @PancakeProduct
      @PancakeProduct Před 11 měsíci +9

      I didn't like that call-out by Cole, personally.
      It was scathing, but it could've be done more discretely without exposing MJF point blank.
      Yes, he looks massive though. As he should!

    • @monabear7287
      @monabear7287 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Yeah, you can do it while you're young but it'll make u pay later.

    • @majorcarver3504
      @majorcarver3504 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@monabear7287 depends on what he's on and how he's taking it

    • @Marcus-xu7hn
      @Marcus-xu7hn Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@majorcarver3504 yup and it depends on if he’s even on anything at all.

    • @Queen01113
      @Queen01113 Před 11 měsíci

      @@PancakeProduct I mean MJF said Cole was built like a crack whore... And proceeded to completely bury him and his looks... I don't think Cole, with the steriod line, was worse than what MJF said.

  • @darthnowlan
    @darthnowlan Před 11 měsíci

    They announced 10 minutes were left in the match in arena, heard it on TV.

  • @billlee6424
    @billlee6424 Před 11 měsíci

    Only match I've ever muted Commercials for during Picture and Picture. 👌

  • @garrytaylor509
    @garrytaylor509 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This match reminded me why I started watching wrestling in the first place.

  • @WhiteIkiryo-yt2it
    @WhiteIkiryo-yt2it Před 11 měsíci +7

    MJF is certainly the strongest in ring talent AEW has now. He has a great mind and genuine passion for the business and his old school heel style just makes him excel because it is classic wrestling which has worked to get over for decades.

    • @26bigfella
      @26bigfella Před 11 měsíci +1

      MJF is good but he is not better than Daniel Bryan or Kenny Omega ... But he's definitely better than Paige , Alien, JungleBoy, Christian Cage, and maybe Adam Cole... Cole looks like he is sick... He didn't look this way in WWE... He needs weight bad

    • @JoesUncleBosey
      @JoesUncleBosey Před 11 měsíci

      He sucks his gimmick is he wears a scarf 😂 he's overated

  • @moffattman93
    @moffattman93 Před 11 měsíci +15

    With cole i think he's lost weight and stopped working out cos he knows his job is safe, so he doesn't need to try. His gf is in a top spot, his friends are evps and his boss is a pushover xD mjf was double his size 😆

    • @Howyanow
      @Howyanow Před 11 měsíci

      I imagine having the major concussion didn’t help him being able to work out either

    • @moffattman93
      @moffattman93 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@colmfreemansmyth9214 he was gradually getting smaller way before that. I feel like when he had boss' that weren't his pals? He felt like he had to make an effort. I see that as a gesture to the fans aswell like hey, yall paid 100s/1000s to be here so lemme at least make an effort and look presentable. He's a talented fella but my god he is smaller than his girl xD

    • @wilcee238
      @wilcee238 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @colmfreemansmyth9214 You think TK wouldn’t give Cole time to work out before he came back? He was paying Andrade and Miro to do nothing for months! I like Cole but he has no excuses.

    • @hamankarn91
      @hamankarn91 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@wilcee238Miro and Andrade came back in really good shape

    • @Howyanow
      @Howyanow Před 11 měsíci

      @@wilcee238 well they didn’t let him work the first few weeks he was back so he he clearly wasn’t cleared so I doubt the time they gave him was enough but you’re right he shouldn’t have let himself get in that kind of shape

  • @gsb408
    @gsb408 Před 11 měsíci

    28:00 they actually did a time call . You could hear it on TV but you could BARELY hear it

  • @swift1sg
    @swift1sg Před 11 měsíci

    While watching this match, I could have sworn I heard an announcement at some point in the arena and I was like what was that. The announcers didn't address it for the TV audience. Was anyone there live to confirm or deny this?

  • @theaterthug7
    @theaterthug7 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Damn, this long for this match

  • @ernestwilliams6616
    @ernestwilliams6616 Před 11 měsíci

    I could be wrong but I heard 1 time call, but correct the annoucers didn't speak on the time. But it felt like a draw to me 30mins into the match.

  • @joshmulligan950
    @joshmulligan950 Před 11 měsíci

    Maybe have announcers lightly mention throughout the match, have the time limit mentioned in passing once or twice in the night

  • @hXcHector
    @hXcHector Před 11 měsíci

    They've done time limit draws in AEW before, and they had the announcer say "five minutes remaining"

  • @conway-jr4ce
    @conway-jr4ce Před 11 měsíci

    there was a an announcement at i think 10 minuet remaining.

  • @bodins
    @bodins Před 11 měsíci

    To be fair to AEW Justin Roberts did make a time announcement in the arena but i couldn't tell you what the time remaining was.