An Overview of the Amazigh Languages (Berber)
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Despite being one of my favorite language branches, not only in the Afro-Asiatic language family but in all the world languages as a whole, I have never talked about the Amazigh (or Berber) languages before on this channel. Today we will go through all the languages belonging to this branch, showing their positions within the Amazigh languages and examples of what they are like. Yalla!
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Segments
Intro - 00:00
Classification - 01:11
Amazigh or Berber? - 02:25
Tuareg - 03:33
Western Amazigh - 06:37
Northern Amazigh - 09:20
Eastern Amazigh - 13:51
Outro - 18:51
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Links
Sample of Tarifit: • WIKITONGUES: Anass spe...
Article "Ghost Languages?" on Eastern Amazigh: orientalberber.wordpress.com/...
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Credits
Graphics - Microsoft PowerPoint
Recording - OBS Software
Editing - Microsoft ClipChamp
Research - me
Music - www.chosic.com/free-music/all/ and bensound.com
I apologize for the delay today, I had technical issues once again. Let me know which language is your favorite and what you would like me to talk about next time!
It's not a problem Che, the wait is always worth it
Zenaga is my favorite I think, I just wish we had a sample
@@Plopi96ILuvPigeons תודה רבה אחי. גם טלפון הנייד שלי וגם המחשב שלי הם בעברית, אני מאמין שזו דרך יעילה ללמוד שפה, לא רק עברית אלה כל שפות
@@QuandaleDingleGoofyAhh123 yeah it's a shame I couldn't find a sample, I'd like to know what it sounds like myself
@@Plopi96ILuvPigeons אתה לומד רוסית? יש רוסים במשפחה שלך או משהו?
ⵜⴰⵏⵎⵉⵔⵜ ⵏⴽ ⴼ ⵍ ⴼⵉⴷⵢⵓ ⵢⴰⴷ ⵍⵉ ⵜⵙⴽⵔⵜ, ⴰⴳⵓⴷⵉ ⵏ ⵜⴰⵢⵔⵉ ⴳ ⴰⵎⵓⵔⴰⴽⵓⵛ ⵢⴰⵢⵜⵎⴰⵜⵏⵖ ⵓⴷⴰⵢⵏ ❤️Thank you for making this video about our language, all love from Morocco to our Jewish brothers. ❤️
You are most welcome! To our Morrocan brothers 🇮🇱🤍🇲🇦
@@CheLanguages Are you jewish?
@@ludicrous1337 yes
@@CheLanguages we Amazigh do not approve of you Israelis and your war crimes!!!! 🇵🇸❤🇲🇦 free palestine
Is there a keyboard for amazigh letters ??
my great grandpa spoke Tamazight/tashekhit (technially Judeo-Tamazight) he was from a small village just south of Sefrou
That's awesome! Some of my gf's family are Moroccan Jews, though I don't think anyone in her family still speak Judeo-Amazigh today
@@CheLanguages my father says that in the middle of speaking Moroccan arabic he would just randomly switch to Tamazight which no one understood
@@israelilocal a lot of Moroccan Arabic (Darija) includes words from Tanazight and Tashelhit, but the core language is still very very different, so that makes sense
Nice! Sefrou has a pretty interesting dialect of Tachelhit/Atlas Tamazight, there's a sound shift g->y so instead of Souss Tachelhit "mamenk tgit" you say "mamench tyit"
@@spongeboblover7052 that's cool, I didn't come across that in my research!
It's sad that some of these are understudied, they're super underrated!
I agree. I wish I could have talked more about some of them
Thank you for covering this the most underappreciated branch of the Afro-Asiatic language!
No problem! This video has been a long time in the making and I hope you enjoyed it!
Chadic and Omotic easily have that title. Fun fact, the Amazigh branch is closely related to the Chadic one.
@@joalvarado8506 that's a fair argument, I've never heard anyone really talk about Chadic or Omotic languages before
Tifinagh surely is a script to behold, and should be learned and treated as a native African script!
I agree completely! It's a beautiful and ingenious script of North Africa
It IS a native African script.
Restaurant owner in Aberystwyth, Wales 🏴 was Amazigh speaker from Algeria, so spoke Amazigh, Arabic, French and English bit also some basic Welsh and saw parallels between the experience of Welsh and Amazigh.
Do you know which Amazigh language? It's likely Kabyle but could be another one
@@CheLanguages I'm guessing Kábule, he never specified (and I never asked). He actually asked if he spoke Berber, as I wasn't sure of what Amazigh was at the time and he said yes and said he saw many similarities in terms of minoritising both languages.
@@SionTJobbins both languages? As in Welsh and Amazigh? I guess so because Welsh comes from a Germanic term meaning "foreign"
@@CheLanguages yes, the way Welsh, like Amazigh, has been minoritised in its own land so that only a minority now speaks it. Welsh, like Amazigh was discriminated against.
@@SionTJobbins I couldn't agree more. Welsh is thankfully making a comeback in its own nation, hopefully the Amazigh languages will similarly become dominant in their countries again
i knew literally nothing about these languages this is amazing !
I hope you're learning a lot! Thank you for your comment and enjoy!
Yet another great one! Keep making them. I have always been fascinated by Tuareg people and now their language.
Languages*. I always thought they had one language, I didn't realize they actually have four until I researched for this video! I'm glad you enjoyed it as always and thank you for your comment!
Thank you so much for making this video. I had previosuly searched for a comprehensive video on amazigh languages for a while and then this just came up on my recs recently. Really great video, thank you mate!
Thank you for your kind comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I hope you got to learn more about the Amazigh languages
Great video as always! Such underrated languages
Thank you! I couldn't agree more
@@CheLanguages good
Salam! Even though we as peoples have many disagreements, i still appreciate this video, its not often that you see people speaking about the language of your ancestors, it warms the heart, thank you for this video! It was very informative aswell.
I am glad you enjoyed it. May the Imazighen rize and be proud of their languages!
Azul Brother, Great Video ! I wouldn't underestimate the number of Tarifiyt speaker. Tarifiyt speaker are very widely spread from the City of Nador to Hoceima, Tetouan and Tanger (especially rural areas). In between those big Rif Cities are many Villages that grew very very fast in the last decades and years and became bigger cities. So Riffian population is heavily growing. 1,3 Million is way to low because the government is not doing enough to research sadly. Also to mention Riffians are one of the biggest moroccan diaspora due to government supressing in the past, probably around 1 Million live in Europe (France, Netherlands, Belgium). If I would do an estimation it would be about at minimum 5 Million speaker. Despite that Riffians are a essential part of Amazigh Movement in Morocco (Hirak 2017) and have a huge Amazigh identity which they keep alive despite all the pressure. Thank u very much for your great work.
I thank you for this comment. Despite the high number of speakers, there sadly wasn't a lot I could find in terms of texts. I didn't know they were ethnically cleansed though?
Great video as always, Morocco is always interesting to me cause of these languages
Same! I've always had a fascination with Morocco, the Amazigh influence really makes it a unique place
Very interesting, thank you!
You're welcome!
What was the most interesting in your opinion?
@@CheLanguages I love that I could for the first time find a comprehensive explanation of the different groups of Amazigh languages, complete with the details of the languages each group includes, their number of speakers and their current status, with maps. I had also been trying to understand the confusing use of the word “Tamazight” and thanks to your video it is clear now. I’ve been researching about languages (for my own pleasure and knowledge, neither work nor study), in order to get the full picture of countries around the world, beyond the major languages we commonly know about. I already knew about the major Tamazight languages, especially Tuareg languages, Kabyle, Shilha/Chleuh and Riffian, but was a bit confused by what the term “Tamazight” really covered. I think your video has the perfect length and contents. Thank you again.
@@Bellasie1 you're welcome! I'm glad my video was of help to you
azul bro thanks for talking about us ❤ people need to know more about us and our history
You are welcome, I love the Amazigh languages and Imazighen. Which Amazigh group do you belong to?
@@CheLanguages Irrifyen, btw keep up with the amazing content you're extremely underrated
@@ok-sq5rg Thank you, it means a lot! I wish you could have been here sooner to help me with the Riffian sample!
Another amazing video dude I think I'll learn one of the Tuareg amazigh languages if I can find resources lol also could you do cushitic languages on the upcoming videos I would love that dude
Good idea! Tawellemmet has 801,000 speakers so hopefully some resources would be available. If not, there's a lot for learning Tashelhit and Tamazight. As for Cushitic, given that the Afro-Asiatic language family is my favorite one, I definitely want to talk about more of their branches that aren't just Semitic or Egyptian!
Can really recommend the Tuareg band Tinariwen.
Let me check them out, thank you for the recommendation!
Also do you know which Tuareg language they sing in?
@Che Languages According to Wikipedia, their name comes from the Tamasheq language.
BTW a cool channel Bandsplaining made a little documentary about them and similar bands - a whole Tuareg scene if you will. I think the title was something like "The best guitar music today comes from Sahara".
Edit: It's actually "The Best Guitar Music Today Is Coming From The Sahara Desert". That channel also made more videos about this topic, and others about rock/pop music culture in other parts of Africa, Eastern Europe, etc.
@@Artur_M. Ah Tamasheq, good to know. I still need to check them out. Thank you!
Very informative video. I would just like to say that the current north african population hasn't changed much. It was more of a religious/language shift not genetic/cultural shift. Even our dialect is about 10-15% amazigh along with Spanish and French. We still eat berber food, wear berber attire and our architecture/way of living is still amazigh. My mom is 100 percent Moroccan and her dna results were 51% north african/39 percent Iberian/and the rest was Senaglese, Mali and the Middle East. Most North Africans would have similar results, depending on the region.
It is true, the Maghreb was heavily Arabized but the ethnic composition of their population remained mostly Amazigh. This does depend however, as there are major cities in Morocco and Algeria where the population is Arab, whereas most rural regions retain higher Amazigh DNA. This being said, the culture may retain aspects of the former Amazigh culture, but sadly it has still been highly Arabized over history. It would be good to see Arabic ditched in favor of Amazigh languages in Morocco.
Thank you
You are welcome, I hope you enjoy the video!
Why I like Berber? Because it's Amazingh!
HAHAHA good one!
Nice choice of music but please make it quieter.
Thank you for the feedback!
Do you write próximo, examen and texto as prócsimo, ecsamen and tecsto?
This about our conversation a few weeks ago about Jews not being able to write X because of the cross? The answer is, I don't take it seriously most of the time, but if I can help it, I'd rather not. At the end of the day, the cross has existed way longer than the religious symbol, and there is a difference between an X and a Christian cross.
@@CheLanguagesOkay
ⵜⴰⵏⵎⵎⵉⵔⵜ thank you
You are welcome, I hope you enjoyed the video. Which Amazigh language do you use?
Amazing video!
Pun intended. 😁
HAHA I see what you did there! When I was writing the script, Amazigh was autocorrected a few times
Thanks for your video and effort. I´am Tarifit speaker I. the statistics about Tarifit number speakers showed in your video are outdated. I can assure you that there is at least 4 -6 million tarifit speaker distributed in Alhoceima-Nador-Driouch-Tetouan-Tangier provinces alongside diaspora in Europe.
Very interesting, perhaps the surveys cannot get accurate numbers and just made an estimate.
@@CheLanguages
Yes beside it's 2004 survey but it's not your fault, research in Morocco is poor and not continuous updating.
that's the thing with surveys, they're not always updated and sometimes I find some wildly different figures for speakers of a language@@MsAymantube
@@CheLanguages
Yes especially when natives are marginalized by the overdominant Arabo-Islamic culture. There is no real official interest in studying status neither promoting national identity. Despite fake image of make it official.
Judeo-Tamazight is one of the most based languages/creoles I've ever heard of. Thank you for this as a fan of learning about the Tuareg as their culture is the most visible in the western world and as a Jew who has always held massive respect to and had a ton of interest in the Amazigh peoples and their resistance to Arab colonial rule and the south saharan African nations and kingdoms that have ruled and continue to rule them. I never knew the difference between the term Berber and Amazigh nor the vile roots of the former so ty for including that!
I'd like to make an entire video dedicated to Judeo-Amazigh after I learn more about it. And yeah, np about the Amazigh terminology, I'm glad you enjoyed the video about these inspiring people and their languages!
I mean it's not really a creole, more of an accent, as in there are no grammatical or lexical differences
@@spongeboblover7052 I'm not aware of how it differs really, but I know it uses the Hebrew script and an increased number of Hebrew loanwords (obviously)
@@CheLanguages I've never met any judeoberber speaker but theres a stereotype here of them turning s to sh and emphatic z to english /j/, also they mention jewish saints known in the region in their expressions and even insults
@@spongeboblover7052 interesting, I've heard a similar stereotype exists in Judeo-Arabic, though I can't be certain. I'm a little confused on the last thing you said, we don't have saints. Do you mean well-known Rabbis?
It’s really unfortunate that you spend so less time with Zenata
I was really interested in Tunisian Zenata and chenua
I'm from Morocco 🇲🇦♓ and I speak tachlhit wich is dialect of Amazigh language. I really appreciate it thank you so much . Welcome to our Jews brothers to Morocco 🇲🇦❤️🇮🇱 ⵜⴰⵏⵎⵎⵉⵔⵜ ⵓⴷⴰⵢⵏ ⵏⴰⵖ ⴷ ⴰⴷⵓⵔ ⵉⴳⴰⵄⴷ ⵔⴱⵉ ⴰⵄⵔⴰⴱⵏ ⵉⵊⴰⵏ .
I welcome the support! Thank you for your comment!
where are shenwa, shawiya, djerba and zuwara?
every arabic languages are influnced heavily by the native languages that were spoken there before arabic
That is true, Lebanese dialect of Levantine has a lot of Aramaic (and to a lesser extent, Phoenician) influence, and Egyptian has some Coptic words and features in it
@@CheLanguages yeah like egyptian is just 7 langauges in a trench coat
Which are arabic coptic greek turkish french english and some italian
@@justaduck1664 LOL, that beats English!
@@CheLanguages and we still somehow sound like a langauge and not a pile of rotten nucler waste like english
Cool video. But It's a misconception that the amazighs were colonised by arabs for thousands of years. In Morocco the Arab Omeyyades were chased in 740 by Maysara Amdeghri after 30 year long war, and Arabs never came back to Morocco since. Since the 8th century Morocco built strong amazigh empires like the almoravids, the almohads, the marinids, the ssadis and so on. It's only after the french colonization when France put a minority of andalousians in power who discriminated against the amazighs and after 70 years of arabisation, millions of amazighs people identify now as arabs even though they're not... DNA studies prove that there are no arabs in north africa
It is true that the Maghreb remained majority native in DNA, but the culture has been sadly Arabized beyond repair. It will never return to what it was before
Berber is not derogatory and is used by many amazigh movements, and is even the root of the name of the berberist movement, by organisations like FFS (Front Des Forces Socialistes) that have represented us since the algerian revolution's end. It's a fine term, and as a Kabyle myself I preffer it's use to "Amazigh" in the case one cannot pronounce the name properly as a foreigner.
Other Imazighen I have spoken to would disagree. Maybe the term is used differently in Algeria
@@CheLanguages Perhaps
@@mikado6407 Also I think the use by organizations is because of it's use in the West (these are French-speaking organizations) such as the Academie Berbere. More-recent organizations like The Royal Institute of Amazigh Culture (French: Institut royal de la culture amazighe) now use the name Amazigh
"Barbar" in Arabic is considered very derogatory
@@spongeboblover7052 It does mean barbarian, but is also the historic exonym of the people in a lot of langages and historically was used neutrally; Ibn Khaldoun never made a judgement as to wether the "Barbar" way of life was good or bad for instance he just talked about them as is.
If it was derogatory, there would not be TV channels (Berbére TV) and organisations (FFS, Berber Academy in Paris) and to name important events in the Berber history (The Berber Spring) with the name in it, as these organisations are all run or named by Berbers and for Berbers.
Man what an Amazigh video 😀
And what an Amazigh comment! I'm glad to see you enjoyed the topic
@@CheLanguages thanks it really was a good video I didn't know they had their own script and a sick looking one at that.
@@BigScreamingBaby it is! Definitely in my top 5 favorite writing systems!
Hi
Shalom!
6:35 Why can’t you write Jesus?
Talmud - Sanhedrin 63b prevents us from saying the names of false gods and idols. Given that we do not believe J*sus to be the Mashiakh yet the Christians worship him, he is seen as an idol. I respect everyone's beliefs but I will not say the name
@@CheLanguages I see
@@ThiccPhoenix good
@@CheLanguages Can I ask does that extend to other people named Jesus or just the false idol?
@@TheFlappening just the false idol. Obviously, the name is popular amongst the Hispanic community and we can say their names. Similarly, the "false god" in the Bible had a name identical to the Hebrew word for "master". The word is still used in Hebrew today, it can also mean "husband", "lord" and a whole number of things depending on context (the word is Ba'al). However, it is forbidden to say the name if you are referring to the false god of the Canaanites
12:50 , riffian is a "smaller" dialect? lmao
In comparison to others
Bro I was just commenting about you when this video was uploaded. Anyways, amazing video as always. It’s clear that you’ve done your research. I haven’t test finished it, but I already love it.
Also here’s a sample of Senhaja de Srair: czcams.com/video/WlqTafVa5pU/video.html
That's awesome! I hope it was something good you had to say LOL. Let me check out the video you sent me
What a beautiful language. I didn't think to check CZcams for samples, I was looking online for written samples. Thank you for sending me that
@@CheLanguages Someone was mad that I replied to someone else with “🇵🇸” and asked me if I was the one who “kept spamming paleshtinian flags” on your channel.
@@CheLanguages You’re welcome
@@alyaly2355 ah I see. Well I'd rather my comments not be political, same goes for both sides
I know someone from Maurautania who speaks Amezigh
That's cool. Which language exactly, do you know?
@@CheLanguages Do you mean languages that I speak or which variant my friend speaks. For question one, I speak, English, French, Farsi, Azeri, a few words in southern Kurdish and how to say how are you in Qashqai
I meant the Amazigh variety your friend speaks. Also Azeri, that's cool@@qpdb840
@@CheLanguages the one in Mauritania
that's awesome! Do you still have contact with him?@@qpdb840
Why no Russian languages recently 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Sorry Питер Грифин, maybe Russian next time!
these are ancient greek letters berber alfabet..
Amazigh script*
Yes, they took letter from both Ancient Greek and Phoenician, who had many colonies across their coasts
No maghreb arabic 😮
This is north africa for berbers
ⵜⵉⴼⴰⵡⵉⵏ ⵜⴰⵏⵎⵓⵔⵜ ⴰⴷ ⵜⴳⴰ ⵜⵉⵏ ⵓⵎⴰⵣⵉⵖ ⵉⵎⴰⵣⵉⵖⵏ ⴰ ⵢⴳⴰⵏ ⵉⵎⵣⴷⴰⵖ ⵎ ⵜⴰⴼⵔⵉⵇⵜ ⵉⴼⵍⵍⴰ
This video is on Amazigh, so no Arabic here
@@CheLanguages On the other hand, Tamazgha includes the Canary Is., on the West of Morocco, in the ocean, where another Amazigh language was spoken, (it's now extinct for some centuries --it's not clean since when--), which are not inside Maghreb. ⴰⴼⵉⴷⵢⵓ ⵉⴼⵓⵍⴽⵉ ;-)
@@aknari I've heard about that, it's not clear whether they were Imazighen but it's likely
שלום גדול ואהבה אמאציר ואנשים עבריים
מה זה אמאציר?
אם ניסית לכתוב את אנשי מרוקו, נראה לי שהכתיבה הנכונה היא אמאזיע' (אות ע אם גרש היא ע'ין, האות בערבית
You are definitely pronouncing it as a velar fricative not uvular.
Oh well thank you! I wasn't sure I was getting it right
@@CheLanguages You pronounced it right and I'm amazigh, there is free variation in between speakers anyway
@@spongeboblover7052 Thank you! Which Amazigh language do you speak?
@@CheLanguages I am a native speaker of Souss Tachelhit :) Law of numbers brought me here
It's nice pointing out the mutual intelligibity between Tachelhit and other Middle Atlas dialects, the weird thing is that a lot of regions there call their lect Tachelhit, having a lot of friends that are speakers of dialects from there, I was surprised to learn that they're considered seperate languages
@@spongeboblover7052 That's just the Royal Academy of Amazigh Culture in Morocco, from what I can guess myself, they're all dialects of one language, all pretty close. I'm glad to see that you can confirm my hypothesis on this
please veryone dont forget egypt is amazigh too
At 2:50, you claim that the word "Berber" was developed by the Arabs and that they used it in a derogatory manner towards amazigh people. It's not clear why you'd so blatantly lie when it's very well established that the word originates from ancient Greece and it was the Greeks who used it in a derogatory manner, not the Arabs.
The Ancient Greeks created the word Barbaroi (Barbarians), this word was adopted into Arabic and from there the word Berber originates. Yes, the etymology goes back to Ancient Greek, but the word Berber itself is directly from Arabic (via Greek)
Don't care about the forms of the word. The linkage of any of those words with barbaric behavior and the usage as an slur is 100% an ancient Greek thing. A European thing. Not Arab. Your video makes it seem that it was the Arabs that came up with connection and liked to use it as such.
BTW I think the worst thing pre-modern Arabs had every said about non-Arabs is that they spoke gibberish. The word 'ajam literally means that. Nowadays it just means foreigner.
@@bokasseloreos3169 again, the word originates from Ancient Greek, but it was taken into FuSha as the verb "barbar" and it was specifically the Arabs who used the term to refer to the Imazighen. The "Europeans" before referred to them as Moors, a term which would continue to be used for a long time in European languages. Moor is now archaic but sometimes "Moorish architecture" as a term can be heard. Moor is outdated, but not derogatory as it derives from the Latin name Mauritania (not to he confused with the modern country of the same name) which was a province around modern day Morocco and Algeria
False information , there's approximate of 20 milion moroccan speaks amazigh .
Not the figures I found
Obvious extreme anti-Christian bend is obvious.
From me? What did I do LOL
I've been accused of being anti-Muslim a lot, but anti-Christian? That's new
so being anti christian is when you're just not christian now??
FREE PALESTINE
If it's free, I'll take it 🇮🇱
@@CheLanguages the history tells everything . you are a virus in this world remember
@@CheLanguages i will let the history talk bro
Not too happy about the New Testament? A little racist aren't we? If a Christian said that about Jewish scripture, you'd be offended. Give others the decency that you expect for yourself. 👍
1. That is not racist, Christianity (unlike Judaism) is not a cultural and/or ethnic group, it is a religion that you can choose.
2. It is forbidden by my religion to say the name of false idols, thus I have to blur out the name of the Christian's prophet. That is part of my belief.
3. This is a Jewish-run channel at the end of the day and if you are offended by customs that relate to my religion/cultural identity, you can choose not to watch my videos.
This was not intended to be an insult to the Christian faith or to Christians, but I am not meant to quote false scriptures and I was uncomfortable about including the sample, but did not really have a choice and I wanted to provide my viewers with something. The warning was intended for my Jewish viewers who might similarly be uncomfortable with this.
@Che Languages Christianity and Judaism are sister religions. The Judaism you practice is from after Jesus was crucified by nonbelievers, not from Moses' time. In many religions, believers literally believe their scripture is from a god. For someone who claims to like languages, you know Hebrew wasn't unique and didn't come from a fire burning bush on Mount Sinai. And that the beliefs of the Hebrews that became Judaism came from earlier Semitic people's and Zoroastrian Iranic beliefs. So, stating that another's religious messiah is false is discriminatory. If your channel is Jewish, as you say, you should put that on the title. Specifically, say your channel is exclusively for Jews and not for gentiles. But since it's CZcams, you will transmit to a greater audience. I watched your videos in spite of your lazy speaking tone because it had interesting information. But the moment you belittle another's religion, you cross the line. Christianity is indigenous to Canaan/Holy Land and should be respected by the current occupants, aka Israel and Israelis. If someone says similar things about the Old Testament and calls your claims false you will view it as racist and antisemitism but when you do exactly that to others you hide behind the cloak of your "beliefs". Grow up and mature. ✝️✡️☪️
Once upon a time, my English teacher was a Kabyle from Algeria🥲
That's awesome! Did they ever teach you any Kabyle?
@@CheLanguages he never did but he knew 7 languages (Kabyle, French, MSA, Algerian Arabic, English, Spanish and Turkish)
@@papazataklaattiranimam that's very impressive! Glad to see you distinguish MSA and Algerian Arabic as different languages
I was once in a Amazigh WhatsApp group 👀 Although they mostly used the Arabic script and also the Tifinagh. I learned ⴰⵣⵓⵍ 😎
Awesome! Which Amazigh language was the group in?
@@CheLanguages It was kind of a umbrella group for all tamazigh varieties 👀
@@frasenp8411 ah that's cool