Dell XPS 15 (9570) Review - The Problem Persists
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2018
- Dave2D review of the 2018 Dell XPS 15 9570. The i9-8950HK is a beast but the thermal limitations of the chassis are still here.
XPS 15 - amzn.to/2Jozmvx
Like the new MacBook Pro, not much has changed aesthetically, The new 4k display panel is a little brighter. Awesome for content creation. Fortnite and other moderately demanding games run at a good frame rate on the GTX 1050 Ti but keep in mind visuals are capped at 60 FPS because of the screen. The 2018 XPS 15 is still an excellent laptop for content creation but the thermal design of the laptop needs to be improved.
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The new XPS 15 is an excellent laptop but it still has the same thermal issues. If you're considering one, do the thermal limitations bother you?
Dave Lee I bought a Asus gl503 with four zone RGB KB can any updates can make it per key RGB KB
Kinda, but not really
I like the XPS 15 9570, thermals don't bother me that much. For someone that travels a lot the build quality is a really respectable quality
Quit League of Legends because of my 9560, best decision ever made 😂
I was waiting for you to do a review of this. If you're buying one: Replace the NIC, SSD if needed and the thermal compound. People prefer thermal liquid metal, but its up to you.
Come on Dave, share those wallpapers man!
Byte Review get this comment to the top
Yes please! Every time I watch your videos, I jump to the description box and the comments to see, if there is somewhere a link to the artist and wallpaper...only to get disappointed...
Hella Skyline by RomainTrystram
Thank you!
Have you ever considered googling "dave2d wallpaper"
Dell: We want an extremely thin laptop and quiet, unpowerful fans
Technicians: ok
Dell: We also want a core i9 in it
Technicians: Wait, but-
Dell: *Just do it you nerds*
Note that apple is also guilty of this.
Shit if it were bulky and had a few more heat pipes id buy it
@@robertstocker3541 at that point its no longer fulfilled what it was supposed to be. It now isn't a portable work computer. it's supposed to be light, and every other aspect about it is still amazing.
@@robertstocker3541 Well, it kill the purpose of this laptop.... It's designed for on the go content creators... So it needs to have long battery lifespan, quite fan, and thin. If you want performance and better thermal and performance, but more bulky and heavy and shorter battery lifespan then go for dell G7
Really? it has 4k panel 1050ti and i9 what do you expect for?
"it is what it is" ... welcome to every MacBook user's life
lmmfao!!!
GinoMcFino it's more like **** it
Hey Dave do you know which noble lock works best for the dell XPS 9570 between the Noble Wedge TZ04T and TZ05TNR?
Those little subtle background details, for e.g. the drawing tablet at 1:08 make your video so much better and aesthetically pleasing.... Love your content
that an intous 4 from wacom. drawing board for graphics work
johbuldmann0206
Looks more like the CTH480 Intuos pen and touch.
I own one.
Rohitash Pradhan it's not subtle at all, it's a drawing tablet
5pecialist it is for me.... It's a personal preference
Great, thank God he had a drawing tab in the background for .01% of the video, without it it'd be unwatchable. Thank you!
can you overview dream machines cleo with 8700k laptops witrh the same issue?
How can i Change to a smaller battery to add an hdd ? Wich battery do i need to have?
The XPS lineup is literally just the MacBook pro lineup for Windows users, really
Beautiful, expensive and powerful computers
Which always end up thermal throttling
TinkerTavern ain’t as expensive though 😭
macbooks aren't powerful. they're overpriced to hell and back for their performance. this manages to give you the performance you'd need at a price that isn't ridiculous for its shape. of course a thick gaming laptop will have better specs at a possibly cheaper price. this is pretty much the jack of all trades, decent price for its form factor, performance and looks. macbooks only have one of those: looks.
MacBooks are a stake excuse for a 2018 computer
Red Flow what about video editing and content creation on the MacBook compared to windows laptops? ( I have no idea about these things!)
Apple has way worse cooling. Not even comparable.
Anyone with this laptop, have you tried video editing/after effects/photoshop how has the performance been? Looking in to getting it for creative work
Infernus 25 if I can play mortal Kombat 11 and borderlands and the Arkham games without lag, I think you’ll be fine
Planning in buying one soon, have you bought it and has it answered your questions well? Because i want one for the same reasons you do
Are thermal issues very notizable while working with 3d desing apps? Not for gaming. Thanks!
I got that XPS when they came out
Why does his videos makes me feel so calm and light....
Safe to assume the new MacBooks will throttle down even more. looking forward to your review
Completely true thats why when people say this 6 core chip is 45 watt tdp I roll my eyes
i doubt he will even bring it up....
elysiumcore lol is Dave Lee the only Tech you tuber who doesn’t have a new MacBook to review? Aw I’m guessing he made the previous Apple video because he was sour about not knowing about the new release. Poor guy.
Yep, they should stop putting big cpu in thin laptops.
Emiliano Carpanessi this wouldn’t even make sense for Dave Lee. He has an entire video about how he wants 8th generation quad and hex core cpus in MacBooks. This guy is the biggest hipocrite
*Hey Dave* Just saw this video and your MacBook Pro 2018 video. It would be awesome if you could do a comparison video of the two, comparing render times in premiere and other applications like After Effects. Also, since both seem to have the thermal issues, which one throttles more and which one performs better under heavy load? I'm looking to get a new laptop and I want to make the right investment. I'm not a gamer, I'm a coder who uses all operating systems from Linux to Windows to Mac OS. My workflow is all Adobe related and Web Development. I'm also wondering how the trackpads of the XPS compares to the Mac. Thanks.
I do notice that mine gets hot. When you say full force to push the GPU and processor are you speaking only towards gaming? Or towards video editing and rendering as well?
Glad I found a review talking about the thermal issues: My Dell XPS 15 9560 battery ACTUALLY CAUGHT ON FIRE! It was still under waranty and I had even bought extra service. It's been a month now and Dell is still working on giving me a new one, they confirmed I will recieve a 9570. I'm feared to death of these computers. I just got home and was very lucky otherwise my house would have been on fire. The laptop wasn't charging and wasn't even turned on at that moment. I had been using it intensly for work that day but it had been turned off for around 2 hours already...
YOU are Kidding, RIGHT? Not Literally "Flames & Smoke" but Just "HOT", like, Frying Pan Hot. Correct?
Battery failure and thermal issues aren't likely related. Lithium is volatile and if there are flaws it can melt down. The throttling issue means the computer is actually cooling itself by reducing performance, not having runaway heat.
@@rsmith02 I don't care what happened. My laptop LITERALLY caught on fire and it sucked ass. I had to call Dell for weeks on end because their custommer service sucks. I got a replacement XPS which I don't trust at all with a broken fingerprintscanner and escape button.
I wasn't at home when it happened but thank got my house didn't burn down. The laptop was swollen and half of it was black and molten away. House was full of smoke
Nice video Dave!
Would I get a lot of thermal problems running multiplea dobe programs? I use Photoshop illustrator and aftereffects a lot. Could i be running a few if these programs and internet browsing and be ok?
Just 2 questions, ive got a xps 9570 and first of all it does not manage 8 hours on 100% probably 2-3 hours and a other problem ive been having is the fans make loud noise when im in premier and charging the computer att the same time. is mine broken?
Hey Dave, my XPS 15 9560 1TB 32GB ram laptop burst into flames a while back. Does this relate to the overheating issues?
No, it's a battery failure.
Dave Lee, I hope from you to make video for best laptops for CAD and engineering for all categories and budget, it will help a lot of people, I hope to see it soon 🙂
Reezk Hosni gaming laptops are very good for this purpose, or even a 500$ normal laptop with an i5-8250U/i7-8550U & mx150 is Good
The higher range would be i5-8300H/i7-8550U + gtx 1050
If you want something more powerful the 8550U + 1050ti which costs 800$
The best thing that would run revit, cad , etc would be i7-8750H + 1050ti or 1060
With 1060 its about 1200$
Howevrr Cad is really light and a 500$ laptop would run it perfectly for years to come
@@MrOmarMoustafa It depends on which CAD software you are using and whether you do more GPU- or CPU-intensive stuff. Some software products (CAD, etc.) run better with Quadro and Xeon, other run better with your standard CPU and GPU series. Of course the price difference between a decent gaming notebook and a mobile workstation is definitely noticeable. I would first check what the software, that is used, runs best on and then pick the mobile solution accordingly.
A 1050ti is enough until you decide to do some 3D rendering. Then you are screwed. There is a difference between the requirements AutoCAD and for example SolidWorks have.
Omar Moustafa , thanks a lot for the input! I shall therefore look at these specifics more carefully.
yes! lumion! vray rendering!
Would it help on the thermal throttling if it stands on a Cooler Master NotePal X-Slim?
i´ve got the same XPs 15, i wanted to ask, do you get that slight Popping Sound as if the screen popping out of frame just before the screen get totally folded?
Does it come with an i7-8850h? AND would this be more cost effective compared to getting the i9 version? as the 8850h comes close if not better than the i9 version in s real world performance. So, if not offered with an 8850h, why not?
Cheers, A
TabalugaDragon Hey, thanks for this suggestion. It's actually not for me, have a customer who was wanting the i9 for performance gain, but didn't like the price. I was thinking of the 8850h, but I guess he wants the Dell XPS(don't think the 8850h is offered, unless I do a custom); so, thanks again for the suggestion....
Appreciate it👊🏻
Cheers, A
Wow, you read my mind. I was literally just looking for an xps 15 review...
If i were to run DAWs or to say music production softwares like FL STUDIO or abelton with plug-ins and VSTs...would it throttle..?? Bcz I'm looking ahead to buy this i7 bell xps 15...without touch model..
How did you get a green keyboard backlight? I can't figure out how to do it on mine.
Why can't laptops manufacturers uses smart phones cameras in those thin bezels
TECH TIME BEAST money
what do you mean money a 7k mobile got good camera than that 96k laptops it is kinda disappointing though
i agree with you buddy
Exactly. I mean, Dell is mostly a computer company so it'll take this excuse. But Apple, Samsung, LG? At least smartphones' sensor should be INCLUDED in the most basic model! What are those stupid DxO mark for if they're only going to use it for smartphones anyway?!?!?!
TECH TIME BEAST me too bro
Good review! I think something often ignored in reviews is the fact that there are people who need dedicated graphics cards aside from gamers! The thermal throttling had me worried about buying the 9570 but this actually perfectly suits my needs for a mobile CAD/ render/ print media machine. 4k screen and battery life are both brilliant and all my architectural software runs smoothly without any throttling issues that I've noticed. I really couldn't find anything else comparable in the market since anything as powerful was a 'gaming' laptop with enormous sizes and/or disappointing screens and anything with a nice screen and size had disappointing graphics. It's not perfect. I have found the speakers to be disappointing, with a bug that forces me to restart frequently to get sound to switch back on, there's a squeaky spacebar, and I've even had a few system hangs over the 5mo I've had it. But overall, I'm happy with the purchase.
dave plz help me, my 9560 playing overwatch on 1080 high, but the fps is never stable on 60, it will drop after 30 min of playing. is this a thermal throttling issue with the gpu?
Can someone explain what the meaning of thermal limitations exactly mean or do to the computer??? Im looking for a laptop as a college student that can run some games fairly well and ive been keeping my eye on this laptop but ... i dont know
Honestly I just kicked it and went for the Aero 15x, and holy smokes what a incredible fantastic laptop that is.
Looks awesome to me, I'm on the edge between it and Blade, to replace my ever-failing 9560...
Dr Vagax how about for video editing or photoshop ??
Trying to decide between the XPS 15 and the Aero 15X. Worth it to just go for the Aero?
Spirus Visuals the same with me (
I’ve owned the Aero 15x since it launched and despite a few software issues the laptop has proven to be a beast.
Could you please make your back-to-school buying guides soon? I have to leave for uni soon, but I'm having trouble deciding.
saaaaaaaame
Need advice...looking to upgrade to a 15 inch laptop from SP4. Travel a lot and use it for Microsoft apps like outlook and excel/word. For me the display is critical...do I go with MacBook Pro, Dell XPS15, Huawei Matebook Pro X or the LG Gram ? So confused....advice welcome...
Hi Dave, between the 9570 and the new 15 inch MacBook Pro 2018, which would you choose for content creation?
Waiting for your macbook pro 2018 review
Weng Munar it's hot and it's expensive. Done
Its apple, so it sucks.
He didn't talk about the 2018 Macs bruh.
Same deal, with a keyboard that might not break and thermals that won't be able to handle the i9
stuck w/ the i7 on the new mbp bc of this honestly. didnt seem worth it
Basically the best computer for people who put work and content creation before gaming
This might be a stupid question, but can you manually control the fans to diminish throttling if you don't mind the noise?
Thats what I like about your content. Informed, objective information, delivered with style and class. Keep up the good work.
Are you planning on doind a XPS 15 7590 review anytime soon?
DONT BUY! Fuuulll of bugs
I bought one last week and im using it now, trying to sort out the overheating issues, it gets too hot to even put on my lap after short use
@@ItsLewie have you tried undervolting? If you havent/have let me know how it is with it!
Hey please checkout hp omen 15 (2018) a strong competitor of msi gs65....please do a review on it!
yeah
I have the 2017 model and I like it a lot
the 2018 model looks more amazing with thin bezels
Ive been looking at the xps 15 for a laptop for college. Im one of those people who has like 10-15 tabs open at once. Would that cause the xps to thermal throttle badly? And what about light gaming on it? I understand its not intended for gaming but what about for like an hour or so for example?
Did the new 1.1.7 bios update fix coil whine issues for good? I had it on my 9575 before I returned it and they haven't updated that bios.
Link for wallpaper please
Dian Kurniawan here you go!!
www.hdwallpapers.in/tokyo_cityscape-wallpapers.html
Thankyou so much bro
Dian Kurniawan always ready to help when it comes to wallpapers.....
Thank you for the review! I'm very glad you being transparent with downsides of given tech! I hate channels which exclusively point out great things without telling you flaws. Great work!
hi Dave, do you ever felt any crackling or buzzing sound while streaming videos in xps 15 9570. Mine is i7 model and I felt this issue not frequently but sometimes during playing youtube videos
Just curious if you have the dell xps 15 2 in 1 version I want to get one so I can upgrade from my ancient windows 10 tablet that is starting to show its age and so I can take notes in class but I am also wondering if it any good for gaming at 1080p and 60fps as well as do video editing if there are any limitations on use the 2 in 1
Most professional and unbiased tech reviewer on the tube. Great job Dave!
Giovanni Blangiardi He doesn’t review hp laptops, how is that unbiased?
Little bit biased. He kinda just doesn’t like MacBooks. And he has reasons, but there for he is biased
I would generally agree but on thermal he and many others have been making fun of apple since 2016 and only now they confess dell has had similar issues since then
Kerwin and for the récord i remember and x360 and an Omen 15 review of dave2d
I like iJustine best unbiased reviews
Jk
Great review. Thanks. I just ordered mine.
I think an important concept you brought up is: THIS IS NOT A GAMING LAPTOP. Can you play games on it, sure with limitations.
But for those of us who use it for a work machine, I think the thermal throttling ceases to be a concern for the most part.
For what it's made for, it's the best laptop I can find after many hours of laptops.
What would your recommend for a decent video editing laptop? I can't find any which are kind of decent with good thermals (living in a hot area), with a decent screen
Does anyone have the base model and tried running Adobe CC programs like Premiere, Photoshop, AfterEffects? Wanted to know if the intel UHD 630 causes any problems. Thanks!
Hi Dave,
I bought a 9570 (before this video came out) and it arrived a few days ago. I've had crackling in the speakers, and judging by other forums, many people have had the same problem. Have you had any experience with this through any of your XPS laptops? Would love to hear your thoughts. Dell have offered a replacement, but others have done that and the problems persisted. I've updated the drivers (as far as I know). It's a beautiful machine, this problem is really letting it down!
Toby Barnhill I'd also like to know this. Thinking of buying one, but the many risks might put me off.
ikdekker I ended up buying the top spec one (i9, 32gb ram, 1TB SSD) and it’s a beautiful machine. However I’ve had some thermal throttling and also an issue with the speakers which dell is looking to repair (apparently by replacing the motherboard). So once they visit and look over it, I’ll get them to check over everything I’ve had problems with and address them, which I think is mostly software issues.
Toby Barnhill customer support seems to be good. However, many reviews on the Dell site (www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-15/spd/xps-15-9570-laptop) have several different issues. As it stands, 67 one stars, and 330 5 stars. Seems like it's mostly a good product, but for the price it's at, I don't want to have to be lucky.
ikdekker you’re 100% right. The service is really good (not as good as Apple, but better than anywhere else). The fact that they get a technician to come to YOU rather than you have to go to them is really nice of them. They’re happy to give me a replacement but I’ve said I’d rather them just fix the current one as chances are, there would be a reoccurrence of the same issue. If this doesn’t work out I’ll be moving back to Apple as XPS is the best looking and best performing for its size and body. I’d consider Razer but they’re customer service reviews aren’t convincing enough. Anything else looks cheap or too bulky with the same specs.
I had the same problem. I fixed it by downloading the audio driver from the dell website. It was different than the one that Windows 10 installed automatically, and it got rid of the crackling issue. I forget the one I had before, but the one I have installed now is: 6.0.1.8454
www.dell.com/support/home/ca/en/cadhs1/product-support/product/xps-15-9570-laptop/drivers
My current issue is the space-bar squeak. It's total bullshit. The only thing I've found on how to fix it (besides a youtube video that involved Vaseline) is a reddit guy that says it'll go away one day.
I have it and I am going to return it on Monday for the following reasons: 1. Wifi needs to be resetted every 4th time I bring it back up from sleep 2. Annoying fan (spins up and down very fast for short bursts) 3. Loud fan: 45dB is 10 times louder my lenovo x230 4. Bad keyboard compared to lenovo thinkpads 5. Sharp edge of the case makes it uncomfortable to rest your hand on the case while using the touchpad 5.Buggy softwar from Dell 6. 30% performance throttling on battery (cannot be turned off, not even in bios). Decided to buy another Lenovo, this time a T480s
Any recommendations for a laptop that doesn't have sharp edges. Currently have a MBP and just typing in bed the edge near the track pad just cuts deep and makes it uncomfortable to type on after a while.
Hey Dave, if we want to use engineering drawing softwares like CATIA , ANSYS etc, so will this laptop gets heated up too much while we use that for like 8-10 hrs continuously??
There are people (businessmen and students) who travel a lot that need a decent laptop which can handle moderate work load without the weight of a luggage. Most importantly it has to not look like a flashy UFO when you have to present in a conference.
The only downside of this laptop on that usage is the camera angle.
If you are trying to play Tomb Raider with maximum settings on this laptop, you are looking at the wrong market.
I mostly do programming and editing so the laptop performance helps a lot. Moderate gaming is run smoothly.
Well macbook do the same you ask? Ye well look at the price.
I would say that the market of this device for professionals like software developers, is larger than market for gamers, i have only really seen the xp15 with 4 software devs, and xps 13 with people like product managers and stuff, dell will never make this device heavier for better thermals , I for one wouldn't buy it if it were heavier and neither would most of the people I know that own one. if you want to game go buy a gaming laptop or better yet a desktop.
If they just connected the VRMs to the heat sink it would probably work for both markets. The successors to this did it.
Bring back the finger spin! Who else agrees?!
cant decide between xps 13, huawei matebook x pro and the thinkpad x1 carbon, all spec with: 512ssd, i7, 16gb ram, help pls, any recommendations? im into: middle weight editing, programming, pen testing (kali linux)
Will the CPU thermal throttle if you are only stressing 1 core? Company uses a solver that is single threaded and it runs for quite a long time (up to 24 hours), looking to see if this laptop is a good choice or not.
This is an amazing laptop. I have repasted and undervolted it. It was still running a bit hot during gaming so, I have decided to disable turbo boost while I game. Now gaming and cpu and gpu are running in mid 70s. No more throttling issues. I recommend disabling turbo boost for anyone doing heavy gaming, as it reduced my temps by 10 degrees.
What kind of games do you play? I’ve had mine since August and I’ve been playing games like mk11 and borderlands on like medium settings and it doesn’t get insanely hot but I’d like it to be better. What do you mean by disabling turbo boost?
In the BIOS there is an option called Intel Turbo Boost. Turning this setting off will keep the CPU clock speed at base clock. However I have found that it can reduce the temps by 5-10C. There is also an app in Windows called Throttle stop, this can also be used to do it while the device is switched on.
Did the same thing, no turbo boost makes temps a lot better, but now that undervolting is out of the picture, disabling hyperthreading also helps reduce temps
I totally agree. I rolled back the bios and undervolted, disabled turbo and it mostly helped. Now I'm looking at this to go after power limit throttling as the VRMs overheat. I saw it on Reddit: www.aliexpress.com/item/4001052774489.html
i got a good discount on this laptop. can you recommend this still? i will use it more on content creation.
Thermal issues can be fixed with undervolting using intel extreme tuning utility
Also set intel gpu as default, and nvidia gpu per program basis on demanding apps. This made my xps completely silent on light load.
Hi Dave I hope you are good. I am planning to buy Dell XPS 15 to design my own BJD dolls with 3D modelling software but I am not sure which intel core to pick. Would you be able to advise me on which intel core to choose? i9 or i7? Thank you :)
how do you rate an i7 1050ti model, for all round performance. tiny bit of gaming like civ etc but mainly video content use
You can replace the thermal paste along with adding thermal pads for about $20!! ive done it to mine and i havent had problems since!
Please share it
what if I buy i7, will I still get thermal issues?
I assume that if you buy i7, you'd get pretty much the i9 after all that throttling. But you'd lose the opportunity to give them extra money for no reason whatsoever. Much like if you get the full HD screen, you'd miss your chance on forking over money for pixels you are unlikely to see on 15 inch screen. Just sayin'
@@miroslavhoudek7085 true 4k on 15 inch is just a gimmick
+Dave Lee Hi, at 5:00, you mentioned that there are other laptops that provide similar performance without the thermal issues. Can you share what those alternatives are? Thanks!
How well does the cooler keep up with CPU-intensive tasks only, not using the GPU? Is thermal throttling still that bad? O_o
Dave, what laptops do you recommend for engineering students with about a $1300 budget?
google my friend
DUDE LG GRAM IS THE BEST . ITS LIGHT AND POWERFUL WITH GREAT BATTERY LIFE .
Depends on the engineering field that you will be studying.
I used my Dell XPS 13 for software engineering and was perfect
Alex Perez mechanical engineering
Lenovo p50 serves me great. Great upgradeability!
need a video on XPS 15 2019 model plz
I need to buy a laptop with good color accuracy
ASUS GL503 ROG Strix
lmao. well then buying the 4k(non OLED) would be the better option in terms of long lifespan.
So should i get the 4k panel or non 4k panal for better battery life. And can i turn off 4k in case i need more battery life?
I have the 9560 and I'm having a ton of issues. Can someone help me out? Major lag for around 10 secs around every 5 mins. Audio pops and goes out of sync. Any help or recommendations appreciated thanks! I've been having issues for awhile and tried a lot of things. I still got 43 days left in my warranty as a final option...
I am undecided between this an zenbook pro ux580ge ,/ not a gamer / aiming for premiere, photoshop , ae work
I am having this with myself too. Which laptop did you end up buying, and what's your impressions?
Had the I9 for 3 weeks and had throttling issues when encoding and under gaming. Sent it back for a discount on the I7 and have had 0 issues with long encoding and gaming. The performance hit has not been noticeable and the machine hasn't skipped a beat. But, why sell an I9 if the chassis is unable to handle the heat unless your just selling specs? Upset that Dell hasn't fixed the issue but glad that the I7 is rock solid.
How is it now?
Could you please update us on your experience so far? Thanks
I was going to buy the i7 for programming tomorrow for school. Is this the best laptop to buy ?
Dash Paz I suggest going for the new msi ps 63
Lol I bought my laptop yesterday and last minute I decided to buy the MSI LAPTOP INSTEAD. ITS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
I have an older (9350) XPS13. Great machine but the wireless network card is really weak and very irritating (it drops stable connections frequently). Do you know if the wireless connectivity for this version has been improved?
So it is pretty much the macbook pro of windows? .And how are the thermals after changing paste?
I can 100% confirm that it is the intel dynamic platform and thermal framework being to aggressive. I've run my 9560 with high requirement games for half a year now by blocking DPTF and it really solves all the problem. No throttling at all.
shit dude youre saving me i didnt know what was happening
whats blocking DPTF ? thinking of getting this laptop,So id like to fix the throttling
www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/7byhjq/disabling_intel_dptf_for_good/ this is the method I use
Oh well, I’ve already ordered an XPS 15 9570 and it should be delivered in a few days :P. It seems like this laptop will suit me anyways. I want a laptop with good performance for doing school work and extra stuff, as well as being suitable for some casual gaming while being relatively light and thin. I got the one with the i7 processor so hopefully there won’t be as much thermal throttling. Still looking forward to the XPS 15, it’s a HUGE improvement over my current laptop.
NickmAn can I know how its doing and your thoughts? Because I literally have the same situation as you
The laptop is great, basically no issues so far! The carbon fibre keyboard can get dirty (as in your hands will leave a mark on it) but obviously you can just clean it really easily. Obviously I don't know which model you're getting, so your experience might be a little different in terms of thermals if you get the one with the i9 processor.
Try this for thermal issues: amzn.to/2NhnKgw
How about comparing Dell XPS lineup to MSI Prestige (P42 - P75)? Thanks
Dave Lee.... I use photoshop and light room as a photographer which model would you buy the i7 or the i9?? I use premier every now and then but not that much???
Hehe no intro
Also no "thumbs if you like it, subs if you love it"
Dell XPS 15 or MSI GS65?
Dell xps 15 without 4k
What are similar laptops that don't have thermal issues? I am playing a few games (Fortnite, Siege, etc.) but other than that, just running some video software. What would you recommend?
hey quick question
can you use it without the battery
i mean so its charging all the time without the battery
Dude, DUDE, *ZenBook Pro* !
1st of all the 1st generation of it, you criticized a bit for precisely the same but not-as-pronounced thermal issue, while you say here that you need to Understand that the XPS was not designed with gaming in mind, which the ZenBook obviously shares..
2nd and more importantly it is absolutely a better alternative to the XPS than all the Gaming devices you've mentioned here, 4K Screen, Good (Not as good I know) Battery Life, Awesome Build, Amazing Performance, Improved Thermals, Thin & Light Workstation Laptop.
I bought the 1st Generation of it (1080p Screen), and I haven't looked back, I'm getting amazing performance even on the battery front (10 hours more or less).
I love your content and I hugely respect your opinion and even use it as a reference in most cases, I just don't understand what is your problem with this amazing device, maybe give it some time, make a full review on the newer version, it might change your mind a bit.
Cheers...
i think the point was its a 3rd gen product and very little has been done to combat issues it's had since conception..thermals matters not just in gaming applications. and tbh i really think some dell Engineers need to be let loose to come up with a slightly different but more similar design. but maybe they wont really have to by the Time intel gets down to 10nm power efficenicty could just be solved in a gen
This or the new MacBook 18? i use more of Premiere Pro but I love how I've had no issues in my Mac OS since 3 years
Gaurav Dharmani Unless you use final cut often, then it’ll be a better choice to get something like an XPS
Dumb Nerd I don't use final cut but given how often premiere pro crashes, having final cut as backup is a real peace of mind. Any idea if Resolve works well on Windows? Also what would you say of Windows OS stability
OS stability seems to be a real luck of the draw thing. I personally run Windows on both a desktop and a XPS 9360 and neither have ever crashed on me due to windows. However I'm sure some will have their own horror stories about instability.
Gaurav Dharmani I don't know anything about the video market but I do know Final Cut pro is one hell of an optimized software.
I use a Dell XPS 13 9350 and I love it, as a software developer I looks for good specs, screen, and battery with good build and this was perfect.
Window OS is fantastic, been using Window OS since Windows 95; it has come a long way but it's really good and smooth now(:
Gaurav Dharmani In my experience, Windows is very stable, with very little BSODS. Even on my ancient laptop, it barely crashed.
Dave, What do you think of the Thinkpad P1 2018? Does it compare well with the Dell XPS 9570? Any thermal comparison there as well?
And if you put some cooling device under the laptop? does it solve?
I literally just bought the new xps 15 today. The reason I got it is because I used to have the 2017 razer blade, but I brought it to the Microsoft store for them to fix it because of battery bulge (I didn't want to end the warranty by opening up the bottom). They gave me a 100 percent refund of $2100 and being rushed to buy a computer before they changed their minds, I bought this. It seems very good as of now. I'm headed to school, and I was a little embarrassed with the blade and its fans. For a back to school device capable of playing games, I see this as the computer I should have had since the start. I'm fine downgrading from a 1060 for a computer like this.
Put liquid metal on ALL the things!
Dave Lee, I am looking for a quiet gaming laptop. It's ok for me to get 1050 or 1050ti or 1060max. I just need silence to study. Which laptop would be the best? Dell G3 or 7577 or something else? I tested GV62 8RD and it was quite loud.
Can you provide a link to that “lamp” light fixture in the background - thanks
Undervolted my XPS 9550 last year and it runs like a beast. It's still otherwise perfect.
Kevin Batts wth. I'm a noob I guess. Can a rookie like me learn how to do this on CZcams and undervolt my XPS 15? Is complicated? Any things to worry about?
@@malcolm4458 I think you can find some good videos on youtube on the subject, there's no risk. Use IntelXTU program rather than throttlestop, it's much easier. You will get some blue screens, that's all. Have patience and you'll be fine.
Thanks for the info.
Why they even did put the core i9 if they can't handle it?
Edit: look I am a gaming guy this is not my thing
TECHY MIKE GAMER(DeadHunter7750) shouldn't be looking at an XPS for gaming
light gaming it more than ok with that PC. If you are a real gamer, you don't need XPS
Derek Ant but other gaming machine looks ugly
Hari Seldon but we care about the experience with good materials, best aesthetics and thin & light powerful experience. Other gaming laptop are ugly. Now I know you're gonna say razer but it's not as perfect as xps like in the video. In my opinion, in terms of built, looks and user interface with the track pad and keyboard. A good gaming laptop has to start as being a good laptop which is long battery life, superior track pad and keyboard, user interface, etc.... which is why apple MacBook pro is still the king despite its high price and mediocore GPU redeon. Just like good gaming headphones, have to start by being good headphones. In fact, most gaming hardware looks good.
I agree with u dude. I will just pay attention to the difference between casual gamer and not. If someone is a casual gamer, he does not need any powerful GPU and he will take care of aesthetics and he will choose xps among the others. But a gamer does not care of appearance as long as the GPU is good, minimum thermal throttling and good refresh rate are ok.
That's a brilliant and honest review. Thanks. Any suggestion for a slick portable Laptop to be used for Photo & light Video Editing? XPS/Surface/Mac/Zbook/Thinkpad? we are inclined to a better look & build.
PLEASE do the Matebook X Pro!
Pojosamaneo me too, I think i'm gonna go with the x pro
Pojosamaneo I would go with the Dell because if you need any form of decent customer service/support, you would be out of luck with the MateBook.
Happy Broski huawei has acually opened a lot of support centers
dell xps had a lot of problems right out of the box, but matebook x has no problem what so ever. those are my experiences.
Akmal Ahmed man who cares what those people think
The xps 15 is like the mac but runs windows. Same design, different internals. Excellent for productivity not intended for gaming.
bariq harb well said mate, couldn't agree more
bariq harb
How is a device that thermal throttles excellent for productivity? Gaming is lightweight compared to rendering in Premiere and such.
bariq harb Can't agree. It looks different (being thin and light doesn't make the same), it has got ports, a 4k screen, better keyboard and is priced right.
forza1sra not true. Gaming uses both cpu and gpu (of course mostly gpu) and because of shared heatpipes, that means lots of heat. But rendering is more of cpu intensive task. Still gets pretty hot, but probably not quite as much as gaming
forza1sra big ram useage, excel, document work, coding, general productivity.
That isn’t just video editing
Just asking, does using an additional fan (the one you put under the laptop) help?
Does Dell xps 15 9570 have some kind of coil whin , or electronic noise issues..?
I hate that they call it an I9, they're trying to compare that chip to a desktop I9? Just call it a i7 8950 or something
Mas Haq Kresno learn not being a condescending douche.