We Bought the CHEAPEST OLED TV… How Bad Could It Be? - Skyworth XC9000
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If you could get a 55" OLED display for hundreds of dollars cheaper than usual, would you buy one? Should you buy one? We took the plunge for you and bought the Skyworth 55XC9000, come check out the results!
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0:00 Intro
0:42 Skyworth 55XC9000
1:30 How so cheap?
2:40 Linus Business Tips
6:45 Who is Skyworth?
7:54 The TV
10:40 Can it game?
12:22 Audio quirks
13:23 Should you buy it?
14:46 Outro - Věda a technologie
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Echoing the request for more supply chain insights
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Would love to hear your thoughts on this as well
Oh epos Clown again
I learn't more about logistics from this video than i did at college during my entire semester.
@@iTouch4444 coming from Mr itouch44 lmao
I like that we got a bit of “Business 101” at the start, Linus does a really great job at explaining that stuff simply!
A british patriot wouldnt support Trump or his facists policies.
@@robertkennion9020
Well, you do know fascists are everywhere right? Every dictator has had some form of a fanatical base or the other.
Exactly, was about to comment the same, learned a lot on this type of market manipulation
You mean the writters
Linus does a great job explaining PERIOD
I'm watching this on my
Skyworth
55 inch
4K OLED
Model 55S9A
The screen is sooo bright that I have my backlight setting at 5/100.
It is better than any Samsung panel that I have seen.
At a cost of around ZAR 20,000.00 it is probably the cheapest 55" OLED TV panel in South Africa.
And I love it!!
As much as I like technology, this class is WAY more interesting than how you can gain or lose 20 fps from a 100 fps base. More of this please!!!
I love hearing Linus's Supply chain insights. They give me a different lens to view the decisions businesses make.
Many people don't understand how business work at all it really should be taught more in school. My favorite is business taxes but that's a whole nothing issue.
Makes me a lot more patient in different retail scenarios. I'm definitely one of those people who will not buy something unless its close to the historical lowest price lol. No point in paying full price if it was cheaper before!
@@barrettready1713 my high school has 2 different business classes
Linus doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't even know the difference between "manufacturer" and "retailer".
@@basshead. false
So when are we gonna get Linus new channel "Linus Business Tips"???
YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s called WAN show.
Get in the line, Linus Cat Tips comes in first.
"Linus Biz Tips"
@@ElectricityTaster you know that a thing right?
I love how after so many years in tech, hitting the remote is still the first thing Linus does
Yeah, this is why at the retailer I work for as a buyer, we just price everything at MAP or near MAP when those prices are available from the vendor. Why stress over all that BS?! Granted we are a family owned independent and therefore don't have big box executives making BS calls perpetuating the 'sale' BS.
Came here expecting Linus to roast a cheap horrible OLED TV
Didn't expect the retailer and supply chain class.
I love this.
damn first answer :DDD
Really educational. Cool to see it from their perspective
This is Walmart 101...
YES XD
Absolutely loved the "Linus Business Tips" part of the video. I always love it, when Linus gives us some insight and here it was also really well-made in the video.
It's always nice to see, i never really knew the whole neuance behind businesses
(also screw the fake comments above)
The business /economics perspective here is huge. I work in product management (data scientist) and I deal with very talented tech all day who simply don’t understand the economics behind certain decisions. We need better education across the board but really pleased to see LTT stepping up on it.
I really love these explainer videos, Linus and co break it down so well and easy to understand. I really learn a lot from these.
I was today years old when I learned that LG is really the Lucky Goldstar brand from the '80s and '90s! Seriously?! I had a Goldstar monitor back in the early '90s. Kept that thing for many years.
Lol now you know what the L and G in LG stand for, or did.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r ngl always thought it stood for life's good like they used to show in their commercials a long time ago
@@SStarlight9614 ha ha me too!
@@SStarlight9614 Same.
Goldstar was the worst pos, even worse than Craig. Electrophonic was the bottom of the barrel but they never made Tvs in my memory.
"customers if they see the price once - they re gonna hold off to see the price again" - shows bunch of RTX boxes on these words. Exactly!
It’s exactly what most people I know are doing
No one is buying PC parts because of the jacked up prices
If I can't give my money to NVIDIA... no money for AMD, SAMSUNG, MSI, CORSAIR, SEASONIC... u get the picture.
@@Juanguar Prices are jacked up precisely because people are willing to pay that much.
@@Lerppunen isnt it a minority of poeple that are willing to pay that much though ?
@@Juanguar Sellers pick the highest price they are able to sell their inventory at. So enough people are willing to pay high prices.
A similar thing happened almost a decade ago. Remember the brand Qnix, Catleap, or Crossover? In 2012 and 2013, people started buying "Korean monitors" that have 27 inch IPS panel at 2560 x 1440 resolution, priced at around $300. These monitors presumably have the same IPS panel used by Apple Display at a fraction of the cost. Although your mileage may vary if you bought one (I read some horror stories regarding these monitors), I can say that I am a happy customer. Bought one in March 2012 and I'm still using it now.
Likewise. Currently viewing this content on my Crossover 2795qhd (admittedly with a single stuck pixel) from 2014
@@bushwacker8278 oh yeah, now I remembered! I also have a stuck pixel, in the prominent middle part of the screen too, but I have forgotten about it and have to really search to find it.
I love it when Linus goes all business, would love a show where Linus just goes through all the different facets of different business areas.
This statement about seeing lower price, will make you wait for a good deal is so true. last year I saw kitchenaid stand mixer for 199$ missed the deal and refused to pay 375$, even though I spend money on things I don't need all the time. I just bought one this week for 219$ :)
From someone who’s worked with many retailers… that analysis at the beginning was spot on. Definitely loved this segment!
Like how LG mobiles failed due to over-discounts. By the end, everyone including reviewers doing the first review were saying "The price is $900 now, but it will be $300 in two-three months, so hold off your purchases". And thus no one was purchasing at their intended prices anymore.
Please do more of these business information oriented videos I'm learning a lot from them!
RCA as a company is actually completely dead, and has been since the 80s. It's just a name that was bought by other companies and is dangled haphazardly around. Basically like Atari.
Seems like a shame
@@kaylons It is a shame, but also pretty fascinating. They were a very early pioneer in doing cutting edge research to design their products, but as a result they had their research wing being more pure science focused instead of consumer product focused. This created a lot of internal politics and different heads pulling in different directions.
Ultimately after decades of this and certain products taking arguably a decade longer to come out than they should have in order to do well in the market (namely the CED, which was a way to put video on a vinyl record... which didn't come out until after VHS and Laserdisc, due to politics and management issues), they ultimately collapsed under all the sunk costs and lack of remarkable products.
Technology Connections has a 5-part series on the history of CED, which explains in part the fall of RCA.
@@paulocardoso9605 Yep, I actually watched it within the past couple weeks, which is why it was so fresh on the brain. 😄
And Commodore. Except CBM went bust in mid-90s.
the "and who's our sponser" had me dying lmao
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same lmfaooo
Why? Pelase explain.
You know it's coming, still gets you every time tho
5:50
This is similar to that one game where people bid for a $20 note, except the person who bids 2nd highest has to pay their bid, but doesn't get the note either.
So, the highest and 2nd highest bidder have to compete on who loses less money, instead of making a profit.
A well-balanced piece of advice for this budget OLED. Certainly more positive than the one by ... erm, FOMO or HDTV Test, I think. If available here in SG, I'll certainly get one.
Huge props for the business/manufacturing/supply chain lesson at the beginning. So many people have no idea how this works and that was a brief yet wonderfully worded explanation of how it all works. Well done guys.
@@desmasic Good for you. Then don't buy a game for 10 years or NEVER. lmao.
@@YavNe ? Steam sales happen so often that I doubt it takes too long
I like the bit where you talked about how the retail business worked when you were at NCIX
More of the retailer and supply chain lectures please, they are fascinating!
I really like the sitting down match cut, great job guys!
Linus opened my eyes. Honestly I just bought my television for the price itself (less then 200€) and never ever thought of its quality again. But seeing how Linus has actual electronic and retail knowledge to give out to us, I realize what a piece of shit my television actually is. Thank you Linus, for making life miserable again. 😂😂
Sorreee
If it's a smart TV (especially with Android/Google TV), the TV itself would have been making your life miserable all on its own before too long. Budget smart TVs just don't have the processing power to actually run both the OS and the display at acceptable quality.
@@Formedras Acceptable is a relative term. I can live with a little bit of lag on the Google TV interface in a $300 55 4K LCD TV as long as the movies itself is smooth, as opposed to spending an extra $500 for something high end. That $500 is PlayStation 5 money.
@@elzafir At that price point, you can expect streaming apps to crash half the time. "Acceptable" ceases to be relative.
@@Formedras haha no dummy. I have one, a $300 TCL 55A8 4K Android TV. Streaming apps like Netflix, Prime, HBO, Disney+, Spotify, CZcams never crashed on me. What's your source?
I like that a lot of these "we bought the cheapest X" videos LTT does have squeezed in some sort of more informational bit, like Linus' retail electronics pricing explanation in this one. It's a really great bonus on top of the basic subject and answering the question "should you buy this".
I studied Business Informatics and never heard such a precise and yet remarkable story like 2:40 ... Great Job!
Damn the editors have been getting really creative with the intros. Great work LMG!
I really enjoyed that section where you talked about the reason for a minimum price. Very insightful
I literally deal with MAP prices everyday at work. They are definitely important, and help big box stores from trampling over smaller retailers. I fortunately have a very decent relationship with my main company, but I can see how even with MAP prices it's a small margin for smaller then us retailers, but they at least make things mostly manageable. There's definitely a certain point where a small retailer could just say screw, why even stock your products if big box stores can sell for less then even the small retailer can pay for it.
Most get around the MAP price by doing a cheesy “Click to see price in cart” scam. It’s all a load of crap, and allows big retailers to throw money in the form of loss-leaders to get all the knock-on hardware purchases like sound bars and such. (While I don’t THINK TV’s tend to be loss-leaders, it wouldn’t surprise me if the margin was enough higher on the accessories to make it worth it to them.)
@@jesseg7757 How the fuck is it a scam lmao? Capitalism as a whole needs to go the way of the dodo, including all those smaller retailers
@@jesseg7757 It would be better for the environment and people if there weren't so many businesses doing the same things, all trying to extract value from workers.
Every marginal addition over purchase of each unit can be liable for indirect taxes so it's not only about retailer it's about management to avoid as much as u can because u maybe have small area to sell ur product than other
I don't deal with them every day, but I do have to deal with them occasionally. Sometimes get a customer upset they can't use a coupon, membership discount, etc. on a certain product and it because it's already selling at the MAP price. Can tell them that we contractually can't discount that product any further than it's already selling at, but they usually don't want to hear it LOL
Amazing video, thanks for the insights in the business and supply chain etc. That was pretty interesting to know!
I am using LG CX 55'' as a my second monitor since October 2020 , I am very happy with it , no burn out no bad pixels yet
Thanks Linus, these budget friendly, "Its cheap but is it crap videos?" are really helpful for an average Joe like me.
MAP is a form of collusive pricing and like a lot of other volume sales tactics would be flat out illegal in many non-US jurisdictions.
Fun fact: It actually is illegal here in Canada.
How is it even still legal in Us
@@Hamox capitalism!
@@princesidon let's get rid of capitalism, socialism for the win baby
@@LinusTechTips MAP is actually legal in Canada.
I would LOVE to see more of this series for other products too!!!
Need more of these videos it's fascinating to learn about.
Love the supply chain talk, all I could think about is how I wait to buy games during big sales like the steam summer sale.
That. Also, I'm more likely to buy a Switch game for let's say 40$, while on Steam it's hard for me to justify even a 10$ price knowing the it will eventually drop to few bucks or the game will get included in some bundle. And it's not like I prefer Switch games so much more - it's how I perceive their subjective value due to pricing strategy.
That ‘Business Tip’ Linus mentioned kinda illustrates the GPU debate I’ve seen. People have seen GPU prices cratered to absolutely nothing in the past. Some now are waiting for GPU prices to drop, which is totally reasonable, but some are waiting for the price level to be around the same level as that in 2018, which is just absurd given the MSRP is higher than the crash price.
Not to mention the insane inflation due to money printers going brrr
@@duckpotat9818 We call it “social spending”, although it never sees light of the day to society
@@duckpotat9818 perfectly coinciding with the other "money printers" (crypto mining) going full-tilt right now. Ethereum and Bitcoin hit another all-time high the other day. 💀
LBT Segment was very interesting. Please more vids about how the tech sales industry works. Linus is clearly very good at explaining it while making it very entertaining.
9:36: My bedtime mode kicked in and went to greyscale as soon as you said this and I thought it was intentional. 😅
I must applaud LTT for explaining the business side of technology. Most people do not realize the complexity and layers of manufacturing, distribution and sales.
Thoroughly enjoyed that business lesson. Thanks, Linus
I own a distillery and faced this exact same problem. Fantastic breakdown.
The retail & supply chain discussion was actually very interesting. Hope to see more!
You should definitely calibrate your review TVs with the X-Rite and give an "after" result - you've got the gear, and it's a service that people have access to; some of the money saved on the initial layout could be spent on calibration.
This definitely isn't HDTV test here for sure ha
It would be interesting but also sort of misrepresenting the product because almost everyone who is buying those TVs wouldn’t even know that you can and/or need to calibrate those displays or have the time, knowledge or money to buy and use a colorimeter. In short everyone that is not a professional graphic designer or deep in the enthusiast hole uses the TVs with the factory calibration. Therefore the factory calibration should not suck
@@Numfuddle I agree - the factory settings should not suck. But with not sucking comes expense...
I don't see that adding the calibration info can possibly do any harm - if you are unaware of calibration you are not going to be watching _this_ review!
@@Numfuddle there are services for color calibration. You don't have to do it on your own.
@@Janken_Pro And for the sorts of people who would be aiming for this lower tier TV, those not who aren't reaaaaaally videophiles are either not going to be willing to spend for the labor of having someone run through it with a proper colorimeter/photo-spectrometer or wouldn't really be ones to notice in the first place.
Having a serviceable factory calibration really should be a priority though. Even as somewhat of a "videophile" who does indeed have a colorimeter, the TCL I purchased some 6 or 7 months ago at this point while likely inaccurate, is inoffensive enough that I genuinely haven't bothered to bust out said equipment and go fiddling with the sliders on the app.
This type of info is what I like to hear. I never understand how businesses work, and sometimes their decision feel weird af. Stuff like this supply chain speech is extremely interesting. More please.
It's actually so common that sometimes if you ask the seller they would give you a secret discount that's lower than MAP. They just can't mark the price like so.
well, what linus did not mention is that Skyworth is the top1 company for buying OLED panels from LGD(aside from LGE). It takes up to 50% of OLED TV market share in China and both Xiaomi and HUAWEI's OLED TV are manufactured by Skyworth. Moreover, Skyworth is the only company aside from LGE to offer 8K OLED(about $30000 in China) and 48' 4K OLED(about $2000 in China).
Meanwhile, a few months ago LG A1 was only €650 here in the Netherlands... Not sure what it's now, but over here LG seems to have this strategy where they forbid retailers from officially stunting too much with their prices, but if you call around a few stores you can usually get a very good price.
€ may be a little stronger than $, but due to taxes, import fees and the like you can usually just do €=$ for electronics.
Damn…as someone who has worked both in eComm retail and currently in Brand Marketing….this is incredibly succinct in explaining how complex the relationship is.
B School professors - show this video in your marketing classes.
After 8 years, I finally replaced my old 1080p60hz, 42" LG. Since I primarily use it as a second PC monitor, I still really didn't want to go OLED. I'll end up keeping this long enough that burn-in would drive me mad.. I spent my $950 on an LG NANO90 (2021) for low latency, 4K120hz, G-Sync gaming. Probably not the TV you want if black levels and color accuracy are the main things you care about, but for my purposes, I'm really happy with it.
For me I replaced a 720p Samsung 32inch LCD TV which I had for 8 years. Played my PS3 and PS4 on it. Now I got a JVC 55” UHD 4K 60hz. It’s not HDR but I don’t care to be honest for my PS5. I’m happy. That’s what matters.
I'm still with my 1080p60hz, 50something'' Panasonic, but I really want to change it. The OS is so old, the tech as well, that I can't stream stuff from my PC without a cable. I kinda can, but it only works with downloaded files, and it doesn't support all formats. The app store is also barebone. I really want something more contemporary that would allow me to go nuts with features. I use it only for retro consoles, movies, Switch, PS3 second monitor PC (no gaming)
quiet you
@@TheDorianTube just buy a Roku. It's much better than having to buy a whole new TV. I won't buy Samsung TVs with Tizen OS or LG with webOS because of that. My list LG stored supporting Hulu after 2 years of having it. My Samsung Netflix started working poorly and freezing. Sony with android tv is the only one for me now.
That was one of the most educational LTT videos I’ve seen
Not sure how others set up their home theater systems, but mine is set up so that all my inputs go into my receiver first and then 1 output to the TV. So my Blue Ray, Xbox, Cable box all go into receiver then use 1 output to TV. There is no sound that passes from any device to TV and back to receiver. So trying to get the Shield to transfer Atmos to the receiver should be no issue if you plug it into receiver first and let the receiver send the video to the TV.
If you want to experiment and not worried about voiding the warranty, you can always take the output resistors on the driver circuit and just put a lower value resistor on the board. In theory it will provide more power and increase peak brightness
It can probably be unlocked via firmware or service menus. My guess is Skyworth caps it to prevent burn in and save warranty claims. The Sony A8H is harder to burn in than the LG C8 despite the same panel. Sony capped the peak brighness where LG drives theirs super bright. On the plus side it will likely last a long time.
That will definitely void warranty. 🤦♂️
no
As someone's working in consumer electronic market as well, this is an every day issue. Retailer like Amazon will match the price in a second but manufacturer are actually not allowed to influence pricing (at least in Europe). So what happened they will come angry saying the don't get profit with this low price and we should give them money to cover the margin.
If this continues / refuses to give them the money. It will go CRAP (can't realize a profit) and Amazon will stop ordering from you and selling that product
Skyworth could also be getting lower binned panels that might have with color accuracy in general. Kind of like back in the day when Apple had their Thunderbolt display that and would only accept A+ panels from it's supplier (I think it was Sharp but it might have been LG). So any display that didn't pass with an A+ went into Korean branded monitors that were sold in America for cheap. Supposedly Apple also stipulated that they couldn't sell the panels to large companies or in large bulk so that they weren't competing with LG or Dell with their own panel.
This reminds of that manufacturer that only made high end panko bread crumbs for big customers like restaurants. Their lower quality crumbs if they made one at all were supplied to retailers. In my country I've discovered fast food mayo tastes way better than grocery mayo. Even Heinz and Japanese mayo are crap.
I love how you mentioned that some are already in the death spiral and some are looking to raise prices later. Hisense seems to be part of the latter, as their TV's have been getting serious recognition as of late for being super high quality at a low cost, something I can absolutely attest to. Their 55" H9F is one of THE best TV's I have ever owned, and it only cost me $600! And that's full retail price! That is just insane value!
However, now the same models are now selling for significantly more. The value is still good but not quite the slam dunk bargain it once was. Hence, the latter. They made a name for themselves & now are raising prices accordingly. For a frugal deal scrounger like myself, that's where I get out of the game. I have my H9F & I honestly kind of now wish that I had bought 2.
Wow, so the panel isn't the end-all defining piece of the display. Even color accuracy is affected by electronics.
THANK YOU for the very informative review!
That intro was actually amazing
It's been a long time since I've spit out my food at the sponsor segway
Linus. One of the few youtubers that can actually talk about business stuff and not be spewing out bs.
*cough* Jay *cough*
Just wanted to say, I don't usually bother watching the TV related videos anymore, they all tend to feel a bit out of touch with anyone except rich people, but I gave this one a shot. I'm glad I did, it's good that Linus admits that it's not the most terrible TV even if it has flaws and not up to his standards, and he's trying a bit more to actually think about the viewpoint of a normal viewer who doesn't have a kazillion dollars and a large house to put big fancy TVs in. Would have liked to see a comparison at the end towards just whatever other TV you can get at that price point, not just to a more expensive OLED.
Anyway I did appreciate the Linus Business Tips too, it's a good insight into how the business model of retail works (or how it doesn't), and I like that it's not trying to tell me "and this is why you should think how things work this way is good and fine", it's just an explanation.
That was a very clear and easy to understand explanation. Thank you :)
Honestly one of your best videos in a while! I especially liked the explanation of the business side of things but also that you did measurements like the peak brightness and latency yourself
Please start a dedicated business channel. I've watched your channel for years now, and every now and then (either in an LTT video or more often WAN show) we get these little nuggets of insight that are invaluable in managing or navigating business operations.
I've literally been waiting for "that price again" on a Brother printer now for over a year lol, and it just won't budge, anywhere. Saw it for $89, on Black Friday 2019, and it hasn't gone below $219 since then, ever, on any day, in any store. Crazy, but I'm not buying that at that price, knowing I missed the deal, heck, I'd buy it at $149 even, but it won't go on sale.
0:21 I don't know if it's deliberate, but I love how the last frame before the sponsor changes aspect ratio. Like if it was deliberate then that was a cool move, it made me chuckle at that Better Call Saul- style and editing.
Okay that sponsor segue at the start was the absolute CLEANEST segue Linus has ever done
More of Linus's retailer and supply chain classes, plz. It's a unique and valuable perspective that I haven't seen in any other tech channel.
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Idk if Linus just got a bad tv but my skyworth Oled is absolutely gorgeous of a tv. It actually gets real bright and the remote is super responsive. I got the xc9000 65 inch. Definitely worth it imo
Idk man, once you experience a Sony/LG TV you'd not wanna go back
I agree,as a matter of fact the only complaints I have are sometimes getting into streaming apps have hiccups and I can't get my 5.1 receiver to work with it,other than that..🤷🏿♂️
Bought one of your water bottles recently. Best thing I've purchased in a long time. Pretty sure I am keeping more hydrated than I ever have lol
This seems like the perfect tv for a bedroom, meanwhile an oled by lg or Sony for the living room.
Gaming on my skyworth is impossible also android tv isn't android it doesn't run Android apps, however for movies, tv series it's perfect (just don't buy a Skyworth tv with a triangular Pixel configuration like i fucking did)
Buying a shitty tv that will obvious have picture and quality issues is never worth the money..
@@michaelangst6078 picture quality is fine for the price, watching a movie or tv is quite enjoyable, the problem is compatibility with other hardware (pc, xbox, ps) and you will get annoyed with some stuttering
@@cyphersoc9950 You're much better off buying a used plasma somewhere cheap with no burn in on craigslist if money is super tight, than paying for this tv that is obviously cheaply made and will have picture defects, huge input lag in games etc... Keep telling yourself you made a good purchase though if you did buy the piece of shit
@@michaelangst6078 what didn't you understand me saying "... regretting buying it", but it's still good for basic things or are you butthurt cause it's china
Im so fed up with RTX shortages and price bumps, some day in the future i may even go offline to read a book
Whoa man, dont resort to such drastic measures!
Agreed
bruh like there is a ton of indie games that are fantastic as time consumer..
I work at a factory in Mexico where we make both LG and Skyworth´s display (also VIZIO). They are literally the same display, just some minor tweaking in SOC between both.
Here in Canada, the His ends U7G 55" is the deal of 2021 for new consoles at the best price. This is especially true if you picked this up at Costco with their affordable warranty covering for 5 years.
been absolutely in love with my LG C1, made sure to buy it with 5 years warranty covering burn in as well for that peace of mind, i still babysit it more than i should need to with any display but its a small price to pay for the outright image quality, actual HDR you want to turn on etc etc. its just awesome really.
Got my BX 55" for 1K on sale. Amazing panel.
You bought extended warranty? Oh dear.
@@TheJohnboyhunter yeh why not? small price to pay when you know the technology is susceptible to burn in, you think its a smarter idea to forego the warranty and use the display worrying about the possibility of what could happen?
plus, it wasnt extended warranty, the TV already has a warranty and LG have said they will look at burn in on a case by case basis, what i purchased for an extra £140 was 5 years of warranty that covers what normally would not be covered, that being burn in, accidental damage etc
what that means is if something happens in 1 year ill get a replacement, if something happens in 4 years ill get a replacement and if its discontinued then likely a replacement with a newer model at no cost to me, doesn't really sound like an ''oh dear'' situation to me.
I really liked the deep dive on industry pricing. It's nice to know that there is some method to the madness.
If you turn on the developer options open them up and go into the scale section and turn down the three animation settings it'll make it a little snappyer it might mess up your remote mouse cursor if you put the first setting to zero so I'd try 0.05 first, works on all Android devices. 🤷🏻♂️✌🏼
I suspect a lot of it depends on what you're comparing it to. If you're used to a high end tv and get a cheap one you'll be annoyed by it's deficiencies comparied to the high end set. If you're upgrading from an old analog plasma like i did a few weeks ago, that $400 TCL looks great. It's bigger, it's digital, it's 4k. In my case it's a QLED, not an OLED, but i was pleasantly surprised. The only tweak i felt it necessary to make was to disable motion blur which was on by default for some reason.
The insight here is really appreciated. Mote videos like this plz!
Linus' business lessons are always great 😌
We still have a 32" LCD Panasonic TV I've had since ~2004, this would look amazing in our living room.
loved the video Linus! also just wondering what what movie that was that you were watching on the TV?
For 200 bucks more you might as well just get a C1 or wait till early next year when they release smaller models.
You can even find the 48 inch A1 for around 800 these days.
true, i got a 48 c1 for less than 1k a few months ago
This was legit one of the best videos LTT made in the recent times.
It's crazy, I really don't know how LG do it, but here in brazil you can buy the LG 55C1 for the equivalent of 600 usd and the 55A1 for the equivalent of 500. I am not joking, it's the LG and I don't know how they pull it off as the prices of the panels supposedly are in USD. This and samsung devices are the only 2 electronics things that are cheaper in brazil than in the USA.
that intro actually got me hyped. and the segway was perfect
Did you make the color Measurement with color temp - standard? if yes, you should expect the colors to be off like that.
the 6500K whitepoint is usualy at Warm2 or custom. you can see it in the target for white and grey, and actual, it's way to blue.
Wondering why you guys didn't just say "This is what Vizio did 15 years ago" when talking about the scrappy upstart who bought lower tier panels in bulk from the name brand manufacturers in order to undercut those same manufacturers. I mean, yeah the whole LeEco thing happened, but Vizio had the exact same strategy when LCD's were blowing up.
I have fond memories of the first Vizio products being such hot garbage that I have never owned one to this day. I do agree they have come up in the world.
For those old enough to remember, we can say the same thing about Samsung. LOL
love hearing how it goes down from the inside perspective
I just bought a Philips 55OLED706/12 with 835$ in Europe with multiple discounts combined. I think they also use panels from LG and was curious how this works for them. Thanks for explaining.
Came in for a review, and ended up learning much about business. This is why Linus is the Goat.
Jesus I came here for a cheap OLED TV and got a whole ass lecture in 13 mins that some how was more understandable than any of the classes I took in my US University......and best part I didn't have to pay $3,000 for this lesson \o/
I too see this video as an absolute win in regards to business learning
Bought a Philips 43"" 4K TV for US$330 over 3 years ago. A full array, 50/60Hz LCD, it does the job well and meets my needs for both remote work and entertainment. Perfect size for my desk work, it works very well for contract drafting, emails, video conferencing, etc. Aside from WoT gaming from time to time, gaming is secondary to other entertainment uses (movies, CZcams) so the refresh rate is OK. Latency is relatively low and OK too.
No burn in. Works like a charm...and it was so cheap in price...bought 2 more for the kids' rooms.
Thought about buying an OLED for the great room, but the issue is that the current Samsung 4K LCD hardly gets used relative to other devices in the house. When we do use it, it's during a family movie on a weekend/holiday evening, where ambient light is more favorable to a non-OLED experience. I think I will forego the OLED for now. If I ever do go the OLED route, it would likely be a SONY or LG.
I bought a LG Nano86 (120hz, HDMI 2.1 etc) and another 4K LED panel from about 2016 to replace the TV bedroom. LEDs have come a VERY long way in that time. It's crazy to see the difference in image quality even at the same high resolutions. I'll live without an OLED as I'm honestly impressed by the Nano86. Looks brilliant in most lighting, and the drawbacks of the LED tech honestly don't bother me that much.
Dang honestly 3 hdmi ports is a large selling point, I personally haven’t been able to find many TVs with more than 2 lately
You can also use a HDMI switcher. Not ideal, but does the job
@@erikpoephoofd yea I have one, you’re right ab it not being ideal but it definitely is something haha
Heehee, me with my 2015 Vizio M series with 5 HDMI ports. Ironically, most of my HDMI stuff goes through my HTR.
wtf happened to TV's? My old LG from 2012 has 4 HDMIs also with bunch of analog ports and VGA.
The LG C1 has 4 HDMI 2.1 ports, the LG A1 has 3 HDMI 2.0 ports. I'd honestly save my money until I had enough to get the LG C1 which is a far superior tv which regularly goes on sale
I love that Linus knows a lot about basically everything
The power of the script. I mean, he knows a lot of stuff, but the script and teleprompter help a lot.
Father Sebastian knows
It is funny how much he knows and then quickly shoves his head up his ass when it comes to the differences between capitalist health care vs. socialist health care. Canada is wallowing in shit health care and long wait times and many come to the US where the lines are shorter and the care is better.
He doesnt. Mostly his workers research and write the scripts for him, so he can just read it out loud.
@@jimlovesgina thats just not true the median canadian and us waittimes arent different the us actually has worse median outcomes due to how insurance works
Damn, love the Sebastian Business Tips. More of it please.
always fantastic content guys, keep it up!!