SB1000 vs PB1000 | Battle of the $500 Subwoofer
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- I finally had a chance to compare the 1000 Series subwoofers from SVS, the PB-1000 and SB-1000! In this video I discuss the similarities, differences, play audio samples, and recommend which one I think you should purchase!
#SVS #Subwoofer #SBvsPB
0:00 Introduction
1:05 Specifications
2:37 First Recommendations
3:21 Front Design
4:34 Rear Design
4:55 Design Winner
6:05 Feature/Controls Winner
6:20 Value Winner
6:40 Sound Quality Intro
7:06 Audio Samples
7:49 Sound Quality Discussion
10:09 Final Recommendations/Winners
-----------------------------------------------------
If you want to purchase SVS products use this links below:
Prime Tower - bit.ly/2Za8oBw
Prime Pinnacle - bit.ly/2Ba3XP8
Prime Center - bit.ly/3exV1S7
Prime Bookshelf - bit.ly/2VvYZn9
Prime Satellite - bit.ly/3i2OcKO
Prime Elevation - bit.ly/2VeCa7e
Prime Wireless - bit.ly/2A1CKOj
Ported Subwoofers
PB-1000 - bit.ly/3fTj5PD
PB-2000 Pro - bit.ly/2Z9al1h
PC-2000 Pro - bit.ly/3i2RfTg
PB-3000 - bit.ly/2YvNjSZ
PB-4000 - bit.ly/2zYuQVI
PC-4000 - bit.ly/3fU6U5b
PB16-Ultra - bit.ly/3dz4mYC
Sealed Subwoofers
SB-1000 - bit.ly/2Z5AI8f
SB-2000 Pro - bit.ly/2YwzeVv
SB-3000 - bit.ly/2Va7Ydp
SB-4000 - bit.ly/31pWhTZ
SB16-Ultra - bit.ly/2NqtnL3
Subwoofer Isolation Kit - bit.ly/3fOM7js
Wireless Audio Adapter - bit.ly/2Z9cvOr
------------------------------------------------------
Links to my home theater setup
Front Left/Right: Klipsch RP-260F - amzn.to/2MaM8An
Center: Klipsch RP-440C - amzn.to/2Jy8v0E
Surrounds: Klipsch RP-150M - amzn.to/2kZN8eo
Atmos Speakers: Energy Take Classics 5.1 - Purchase amzn.to/2l0ubbs
Subwoofer: Hsu Research VTF-2 MK5 - Review • HSU Research VTF-2 MK5...
Speaker Wire: Monoprice Access Series 12 AWG CL2 Rated 2 Conductor - amzn.to/2y4btcT
AV Receiver: Denon AVR-X4400H - amzn.to/2JuznyM
External Amplifier: Monoprice Monolith 7 - amzn.to/2ZXrTvu
4K UHD BluRay Player Sony UBP-X700 - amzn.to/2V8CimO
Television: TCL 55" 6 Series - 55 Inch: amzn.to/2QUvKsN
65 Inch: amzn.to/2QRS9XX
Television Stand: Z-Line Flat Panel 3 in 1 TV Mount System - amzn.to/2Lys9N0
---------------------------------------------
Ways to support this channel:
1. Patreon: / hometheaterhobby
2. Amazon Affiliate: amzn.to/2JD0wmx
3. Paypal: paypal.me/hometheaterhobbyist
4. HTH Merchandise: teespring.com/stores/home-the...
---------------------------------------------
Follow on Instagram
/ hometheaterhobbyist
Follow on Twitter
/ hthobbyist
Contact the Home Theater Hobbyist
Email: hth@hometheaterhobbyist.com
---------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: This description contains affiliate links. If you click an affiliate link you will be taken to our affiliate and I'll receive a small commission. This commission supports this channel and allows us to bring you more videos like this. Thanks for your support. - Věda a technologie
Can we all acknowledge not just how great these reviews and comparisons are, but the fact you have time stamped these so well with relevant topics?
Thank you! 🙏🏾
You have the calmest voice in speaker reviews.
Thanks
What are the odds that there was a perfect review/comparison for the exact subs I was deciding between? You’re the man!
Happy to help! 😁
Great video and intro! Thank you for the comparison video. I just went with dual PB-1000's after reading your review of that subwoofer.
Awesome 👏🏾 👏🏾
Thanks for the clear and concise review of the SVS 1000 series. I always learn something from watching your videos.
I’m happy you like them.
Thanks for movie and compare. I'm a happy SVS PB-1000 user 😀
Clear, fully informative, to the point. Thanks for your reviews
Thanks for watching! Don’t forget to share the videos!
Be nice to see you do a new SVS Subwoofer review. Thanks and take care.
I agree, I need to reach out to SVS to review one of their new subs! I'm busy at the moment but I'll reach out in the next few months and see if I can get a review unit. 🙂
Having had both, i returned the SB-1000 to get the PB-1000. I like the ported subwoofer as it has a definite punch, louder and it works well with different genres of listening. The only downside is its size! It's hugeeee for a small room like mine!
hi buddy, what is your subs main use, i'm looking for one primarily for music in a 3m×6m room, thank you
@@azzabouy8243 I use it mostly for movies. About 60% movies and 40% for music. It depends on the type of music you listen to. The SB-1000 performed really well for orchestra, jazz or music with deep vocals/strings/instruments but lacked the punch that the PB-1000 could deliver for most genres of music. SB-1000 has little presence and may sound a little flat from my experience.
@@cheongmj first, thank you for your reply. the majority of my music is top 40, dance remix style which is why i've been having a hard time deciding, the room is mostly unfurnished and i'm concerned about it being 'echoey' and not having the 'impact' (i'm not sure if that is the correct terminology). i really appreciate your help, thankyou again :)
hey bud, I’ve been in a dilemma on this for a while. And wanted to ask why you kept the pb 1000 pro? I watch movies and play games but also listen to a lot of music (and music I mostly listen to has a lot of bass like house and hiphop etc). Is the sb 1000 really that much better for music? I am leaning towards the pb 1000 pro but im just thinking of whether or not it wud be the better choice. Please advise on reasons why u kept the pb. I live in indonesia so there’s no return policy here. Greatly appreciated
Absolutely nailed the intro!
🤣🤣 thank you
Another great review today!
Thank you!
Best video on the topic. Thanks for making it.
My pleasure!
As someone who listens to music basically every hour of the day, and watches I'd say 3 movies a week, I have to go with the PB-1000. I just NEED that frequency response. And the quality is not far away from the SB-1000. Plus I'm guessing it's a bit louder and I do love my loud parties.
Great review I’m looking for a sub for movies and this video helped me made my decision.
Happy to help!
Thank you for the great review.
Side question: which one would you recommend between the Klipsch R12 SW vs SVS SB-1000?
I haven't tried the R12 so I have to default to the SB-1000.
Literally just bought the SB1000. Like many been watching reviews on this sub for years. Looking forward to finally hearing it for mysel. My 2 channel setup. Peachtree M25 in bamboo, Emotiva BasX S8, Denon CD player, Audio Technica LPW40 using a VM95SH through a Tube Box DS using Genanlex tubes. The SB1000 is exactly what I need.
How does it Sound?
@@TJ-xk1dy Tight clean bass that was easy to blend into my setup. I have it in a 13 by 14 room and it fills the room with a nice amount of bass. The size of the sub makes placement super easy and it being sealed. Blending them into my setup to my taste was by far the easiest sub I've ever worked with. I really want to hear the SB2000 now. I tend to lean a little more on the elevated bass side then flat. I am very happy with purchase and would easily recommend the SB1000.
Own two sb1000 for my small ht loft. Little boxes of dynamite 😊
You get a good deal on em?
This is a true comparison video! Side by side very detailed and informative! This Chanel is underrated! We have to make you move up in the trends brother! Thanks for the video! I’m a movie theater guy but I also like something that doesn’t take a lot of space. I’m sure if I go with sb instead of pb I won’t be losing much
You wouldn’t be losing much at all.
This didn’t make the final video but I’m curious how something like the sb3000 plays. It’s definitely more expensive but it has depth than the 1000 🤔😄.
Home Theater Hobbyist is like like a huge different between 1000 and 3000? Also does this sb with the prime speakers does it beat any soundbar on the market? I currently own the Samsung q90r
I haven’t tried the prime bookshelf speakers nor every Soundbar 😁 but my guess is standard sound bar yes! Sound bar with wireless side surrounds? Depends
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist the Samsung has surround speakers it makes a 7.1.2 system. its expensive as well. just want to make sure that the sis speakers are better then sound bars
Great video enjoyed it and good comparison
Awesome, thank you!
SVS SB-XXXX : For Music Systems .. tighter, faster, more precise bass, and more convenient to place because it has a smaller footprint.
SVS PB-XXXX : For Home Theaters .. Bigger, deeper bass .. a bit less precise but oh so generous ! And yeah, bigger in size (bigger cabinet = deeper bass).
Now you know which one you need :)
i like the looseness and reverb from a nice ported enclosure. if you have tried it, get two. i dont think one of those is near enough.
Love the comparison! Do you think you need two PB-1000s for a home theater setup or is one enough?
Great question! 2 will yield better bass balance so I’d go for 2. I talk about it in this video.
HT Basics: Should I Buy 1 Big Subwoofer or 2 Smaller Subwoofers? czcams.com/video/cznMbMaj5hU/video.html
Have you ever auditioned a Rythmik sub? This was an awesome video and I loved your comparison between the Hsu and SVS subs a little while back. I would kill to get your opinion on the Rythmik L12 vs the SB1000 or the LV12F vs the PB1000.
😁😁 rhythmic is on my list of subs I really want to review. Hopefully I can get one in because I would like to do a comparison. Thanks for continuing to keep up with the channel.
Hey there
I watch movies, play games and listen to music on my speaker and they NEED a subwoofer to hit Lows and low mids.
Which one of these would be the better compromise?
Using SB for movies or PB for music.
If you watch more movies and play more games than listening to music go PB. If you listen to music more than movies/games, SB.
So I have a question for you. I can only purchase one sub right now and it looks like it will be the new sb1000 pro. I am mainly using this for home theater. I understand that a ported sub will be better, but the place I am purchasing my sub only has the sb1000 pro and not the pb1000 pro. Will I be totally disappointed in the sb1000 pro for home theater use? Please be honest! Thanks.
No you won’t be totally disappointed. 😁. The Sb1000 is a great subwoofer and works well for movies.
Thanks for the review, which one is better for gaming?
Thanks in advance!
I’m not a gamer so I can’t say for sure but I’d probably pick the SB1000 since it plays very well and it’s smaller.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Thank you 😊
Jeez I love svs. Gimme one!
I noticed you used the opening scene from "edge of tomorrow," which you you titled as "live,die, repeat. The name of the movie is edge of tomorrow. I used to make that mistake as well😅🤣🤣🤣
Great video, nice honest review of both of them. So SB1000 slightly better for music, PB1000 slightly better for movies. But in general BOTH are awesome subs delivering very tight bass for the $500.
Exactly!!!
what volume can the SB1000 reach at 20-25Hz @ 1.5m?
Thank you very much!
I got 48m2 room and i have no idea which one do buy, what you recommend sir?
If you listen to more music SB series but if you prefer movies the PB series. For your room a sub in the 2000 series maybe a better choice
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Much Love, thank you!
A whole nother subject. Do youstill have you Hsu Vtf 2.? Are you going to review the Hsu Vtf 3 mk 5. Or the Vtf 15H mk2. Everybody does the SVS thing. But ive seen
The 2 foremetioned HSU subs at Audio shows and to my ears they compete price vs Performance vs the SVS
Yes I still have and love my VTF 2. I’ve reached out to Hsu for a review sample but haven’t heard back, we’ll see what happens.
Great video my brother
Thank you 🙏🏾
I was looking for one of this two,couldnt deicide so i bought xtz 12.its good deal cose they are priced similary,but xtz have few hundred more wats and its ported with 2 holes wich come with two plugs to close it
Have a pair of PB 1000, and just loving them :-) Would love, if you could review the SB 3000 :-)
I’m curious about the sb3000 myself 😀. We’ll see if I can get one in.
I own the PB1000 for more than 1 year, almost daily use for music especially with a Marantz amp and Dali speakers in a stereo system...why did I choose PB and not regret it(tested both before buying)? The ported version gave me more depth, soundstage to complement the system I have so as an advice for anyone “struggling” in a decision process...I wouldn’t label them as “for music-for movies” it’s important the balance to the system that you own...you want to FEEL the lows in every pore? Get the PB. In the end both are great subs so you can’t go wrong with Svs.
Cristian, many many 🙏 thanks for your response, 💕 from India, from last couple of days I am struggling to decide between SB vs PB, because movie and music both are my primary priority. Games not so much. My room size is 195sqft.
setup I go for
Denon 2700
Dali Oberon 7
Dali Oberon vocal
Polk RC80i(Atmos)
Polk S15(Rair)
Sub PB or SB 1000pro
Audioquest cable 16awg
Just stuck in deciding sub, after your coments hope will go for PB1000 Pro,
Thank you
@@jpalit1 hey bud did u end up buying the pb1000 pro? Just wanted to check ur thoughts Im about to buy it
The PB 1000 was my first SVS sub. Now I have dual PB 3000. But man I had a lot of fun for months with the PB 1000 , don’t be fooled by its size. This little sucker kicks clean and hard.
I’m assuming you like the PB3000 more..... What are the main things you like more than the PB1000?
Home Theater Hobbyist definitely the sound and performance. The PB1000 can rival 12 inch subs that cost 2 times more. It can go low as 19hz, perfect impact for small rooms. You can go dual for less than $1000.
I have Fenda T - 400X, and I heard the SB 1000 better than the PB and I think I will buy the SB! I am listening only music, not watching movies...and for music I think this is going to be the best choice for me! Thanks for the review, It was so helpful!
Happy to help! Happy Holidays!!
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Happy to u too!
Can you review on Dali subwoofers. Also it will be great if u compare them with SVS, REL or any other brands.
I will try to get one of their subwoofers in 😁
Between ported or sealed which is better? Can i feel bass in sealed? Speaking of floorstanding speakers, I ve seen one which is rated 400w , It is a 4 way and has 89db of sensitivity. The thing that i dont get is that there are 3 red lights categorized tweeter, midrange and woofer they indicate overload. Does that mean everytime they light up i must reduce the volume or what?( They are the radiotehnika s400)
I prefer ported and I feel more bass with a ported sub.
I’ll have to look into that issue as I’m not familiar with that speaker
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist thanks for the reply you are the best person in the whole of youtube to explain home theatres. Keep up with the good job.
Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it 😁😁.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist yr welcome
Thanks a lot dude! Your comparison is much appreciated. :-)
I think the SB-1000 suits my needs better. I need a small sub, listen to a lot of music and watch some netflix and play some video games. I really like that gloss white but I don't know if it's worth an extra $100. Either way, I'm sure it'll kick the snot out of my dayton sub. It does the job, but I'm ready to upgrade.
Let me know if you get it!
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist I definitely will! I'll make sure I use your link when I make my purchase. 👍
Trust me, it will kick ass!! I have 2 in the living room and I could not be more happier! Really impressed with, what this little box can produce! 💪🏾👍🏾
@@87CREW Thanks! I can't wait til I get one. :-)
Very nice review.. In the end it is clear for which one to go. Thanks for simple and clear review as always..
Music: SB1000
Movies: PB1000
I think there is one more advantage with PB is that we can close the port with a cushion if we want tighter bass. So this can be used in both ways..sealed and ported
Thanks 🙏🏾
Can this closing of the port but it's harmful
hi which one would shake the house more on music?
pb1000
could you check out Rythmik LV12F? its around $600 and has servo control.
😁😁 Several people have mentioned Rhythmic. They are on my list of subs I need to check out. Hopefully I can get one in the next few months.
I have a PB-1000, could I pair it with a SB-1000? There is someone selling one that's in great shape, but I'm not sure if one being ported and another being sealed would mess anything up?
Honestly, I wouldn’t play them together because running ported and sealed at once can cause phase issues. You could play one for music and the other for movies 🤷🏾♂️.
I agree sir. It needs some correction after sound analyse to have 2 different sub. Expert users only
What if u just plug the port? Would the pb 1000 now have a similar musical speed of the sb1000?
Good question, haven’t tried it but I suspect it would be close but not the same as the Pb is not designed to be sealed.
My guess is far from it. The cabinet is actually very large for a driver of that size. So there will be little to no pressure being created inside which is what makes a sealed enclosure sound more precise. I think all you'd do is make it quieter and rob it of some extension.
I do listen to more music then Movies but I already got the PB standing here, is the difference worth returning the monster to swap to a SB 1000 😵
The SB is great but I don't think it's worth the return, I'd keep the PB.
Got a little SB1000. Mostly for music. It's tiny, makes good bass. Complements speakers very well.
hi mate, i'm tossing up between the two, before your purchase did you have a comparison or did you buy from research and videos like this? any advice would be great :)
@@azzabouy8243 I didn't do an A/B, couldn't find a PB-1000. I went mainly with online reviews, and also, because of the size, I didn't want a large box (still don't). Was just looking for something to bring more oumph at the very low end, and to be frank, I would absolutely recommend a subwoofer even for music. Seems to make everything pop.
I would recommend A/B, if you don't care about the size aspect. Secondly, check on SVS return policies, which are quite generous. 45 days money back guarantee (and they pay return shipping) IIRC. If you buy local, ask them, I'm sure they wouldn't have issues with you returning the one you don't like.
They also do a one year upgrade. If you want to upgrade a year later, you can return yours (you pay for return shipping), and they'll refund the price you paid. But check with them to be sure.
@@0bzen22 okay thanks mate, that's another thing that has made my decision svs, their customers service is apparently very helpful. i'm really leaning towards the sb1000, thank you for your help bro :)
I like them both, in my system, looks are important as well as function, it a TIE, thanks for sharing
How do they compare to the RSL Speedwoofer?
They play a deeper than the RSL speedwoofer so they're not as well tuned in the mid bass regime as the RSL.
Great review and video. Side story: a long time ago, like maybe back in 1999ish, I went to a local home theater group meetup in the area. The guy hosting it was showing us some prototypes of some diy powered subwoofers he was working on in his spare time. Explained why he was doing it and gave everyone a good demo. We were all floored by the power of this powered sub. Well a couple years later he left his career in the military and started up a company with a friend and they called it SVS.
These were their early cylinder looking subwoofers. Looked like water heaters. It’s a shame they no longer sell that style.
Excellent story!!! Thanks for sharing!
Oh wow. I never realized that the PB had a 10" driver compared to the 12" on the SB.
Same!
Yep I triple checked that one myself
That’s what impressed me the most. I have never heard a 10 inch sub with such presence and impact as the PB1000
I think they put the 10" in PB-1000 to give it a bit more control as the SB-1000 has a sealed enclosure for control.
I blew out my PB-1000 driver last week listening to some hip-hop at max volume.
My question is do you think the sb-1000 or sealed subs in general can give me the same tactile feel for music that the ported models can?
I'm worried I won't enjoy the experience as much on a sealed model do to the lack of DB when compared to the ported models for genres like hip-hop, rap, and edm.
Hmmm good question, I think a sealed sub would work well. It will give you a cleaner tighter sound. Given that you were playing at max volume you may need to step up a class or two to get the output, example sb2000 or sb30000. Great question 👍🏾
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist I was thinking to step up to the sb4000 but I'm worried that by virtue of being a sealed design, it wouldn't pressurize the room substantially more than a pb1000 would and not provide much more (to be worth the cost) subsonic bass for the musical genres I love.
I was also considering the pc4000 for it's small footprint but that price point has me looking at ported models from other brands such as the Rythmik FV18 which is only 22 inches deep. In comparing a 13.5" sub to a 18" servo sub that weighs a 100 lb more, I really think I'm going to get a better value with the 18".
Considering this is for a 2,500 cubic foot room and my requirements, what do you recommend I upgrade to next?
Julian Josephs The sb4000 is powerful enough and it should even hit lower too.
I had a sealed 10" subwoofer and it actually managed to send impulses in my water bottle on my couch and this was my weaker 10" driver I had in the living room.
I also have a high roll 10" sealed subwoofer that also vibrates my seats but the 12" (sealed) I have is very powerful and you feel it so much more compared to the other 10s. My friend thought there was another subwoofer behind the couch and this was just the 10" subwoofer. I have a video of it.
@@julianjosephs8822 had two sb4000 was unbelievable and music is so tight tried a pb4000 and that clean fast aspect was lost im not port fan and port chuffing even if rare i could hear. Even sometimes when i tried the pb16 i could hear port noise, just if you can live with that fair enough but its annoying as hell i find that when those amazing deep bass moments come instead sitting there enjoying it, your sub is making farting noises and i scramble to turn it down as i dont want to damage it. The sharp roll of for ported subs just isnt worth it and thats coming from someone who had a pb2000pro for 2 years prior i hoped that pb 4000 or at least a pb16 wouldnt have those problems but alas it seems to be inherent port design weakness, if you one its only real weakness. I decide to try the sb16 two of them and was amazed that they still had the cleaness of the sb4000 and fast response. I would say the sb4000s were more than enough and its not that much of an upgrade to sb16d but i just more headroom and they made such could deal on getting two (35% off) i couldn't say no. I would suggest get a sb4000 and when you can get another one it will improve the peaks nulls better than ported will without the horrible cliff lose of ouput after the port frequency that causes those horrible noises. Giving more even bass at different seating, more output thats cleaner with more headroom and because sealeds dont have sharp roll off that extra db from two allows them to dig a lot deeper into 10hz range than a ported could ever dream doing. Always buy the best sub you can and wait and save get another and will bring amazing benefits.
Rhythmic is on my radar as a brand I want to try so I can’t say for sure but I feel like rhythmic might be the better choice 🤷🏾♂️😀
Hello 👋🏼 friend. I’m going dual subs and thinking one of each. Only because I can hide the
PB-1000 and the SB 1000 will be exposed to my living space and that corner is small enough for it. ( Will I get great sound with different subs?
I’m a movie 🍿 guy with kids and grandkids that also love movie’s. Thank you.🔊👋🏼🙏🏼✌🏼
If I buy both, would I be able integrate and use them at the same time to get the best of both worlds for movies?
Yes they work well together
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Awesome! Thanks for the reply.
Catch the Wave Never ever mix sealed and ported subwoofers. You could get phase cancellation issues. If you want to use them individually though I would rather go ahead and do that.
@@maincharacter2677 okay thanks for that information, I'll look into further.
The SB-1000 is preferable to me, as the PB just pushes too much air which (a part of) is just the box making a noise and not at all related to the movie playing. That's probably due to my having a sealed box sub already.
I am thinking about going for the SB-2000 instead. Having both the sound and the response.
What would be a better option, dual PB-1000 or single PB-3000?
Having 2 subs is almost always better than 1 just because 1 sub is unable to completely fill a room without holes and picks in the listening experience and it's pretty annoying when you notice it (I just have one sub and there is no way to get a perfect rendering of the bass cos moving just a bit change the result). One eventual exception being maybe if you sit right next to the sub, you will get all the bass rendering but you will also know where the bass come from, maybe ok for movies but less fun for music. Except if the 2 subs really sucks compared to the one, just go for 2. PB-3000 is like an ultimate choice to me, having 2 of those, you will be totally satisfaied. There are 2 main downsides of the PB-1000, one being that you cannot use the mobile app and it helps a lot to get the full potential of the subs (also easy control in real time cos no remote) and work with the weaknesses of the room. Saying that, 2 subs usually will help with annoying resonances compared to 1 sub. Second weakness of the PB-1000 is that PB-3000 has more impact and it will give you chest impact, 2 PB-1000 cannot give really chest impact and also won't reach as deep in bass, but except for great organ, the difference will be minimal to non-existent for music, from movies it's more noticable. PB-3000 will also give better quality bass in some other frequencies regions. Saying all this, to me, the advantages of 2 does beat the advantages of 1 more expensive. Only the lack of app is the big downside, never know when there will eventually be a PB-1000 pro. You can use a DSPeaker Antimode 8033 to replace partially the app if the resonnances are too much of a problem, but it has a cost and cannot match the app open controls. If for money is acceptable, go for 2 PB-2000 Pro and except a little less chess impact and little less bass quality rendering, it will be much beyond PB-1000 with most advantages of the PB-3000.
@@laurentbonnefoy4451 Thank you
which one is best for music?
The SB1000 is better.
I just received my sb1000 that I’m going to pair with two b1+ from emotiva. Will be testing them tonight. I had an entire 5.1 system from svs the prime line along with the pb2000 and a rythmik fvx12. To say the least the rythmik dominates the pb2000 in every way imaginable. I found out I don’t like surround and I much prefer two channel with or without a sub it depends on the speakers. The svs prime bookshelves with the pb2000 wasn’t bad but I didn’t like it a lot. Then I did the bookshelves with the rythmik(this is after trying both subs on 5.1 and now to 2.1) and I felt like the quality of the bass far surpassed the quality of everything else coming from the speakers. So I ordered two psa mtm 210t towers and I paired them with the rythmik and I’m in heaven. I have an odd shaped room and wish I could buy a second rythmik but holy shit it sounds incredible for what it is. So I have my expensive system now and then two b1+ with sb1000. I have no one to share this hobby with except for my girlfriend so here I am writing a comment no one will read.
I've read your comment! I'm glad you found your system, it's a great feeling. What's the major difference in your opinion between the PSA and the Prime bookshelves?
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist I have the emotiva’s and the svs sb1000 and I’m very impressed for the price of around $650 for all three products. It’s incredible what a budget sound system can sound like. It’s only powered by my denon avr s650h and no distortion or clipping that I can audibly hear.
Anyways the major difference between svs and psa was the overall presentation and presence. I’m not extremely versed in all the words some audiophiles use but psa has depth, imaging and mid bass that is incomparable to a bookshelf speaker of such a low price and since the psa are 98db efficient there is no ceiling to the volume for any mortal human within a reasonable room. For music games and movies psa is great. But they’re not great for near field listening. Since they use horns they are directional and to experience them fully you need to be at least 10 feet away probably. I don’t currently have the primes but I do have the b1+ now and I can compare. The emotivas are prettier for softer music and compliment vocals so well I don’t want to admit that $200 speakers sound prettier than almost $3000. But for pretty much most other music like hard rock, rap, edm then along with games and movies the psa is the clear winner by miles. Especially because they’re complimented by an $1100 rythmik rather than svs’s cheapest possible sub. Anyways, I love both systems to say the least! I even tried a $1250 Sonos system including the beam, two ones and the sub mini. It sucked nuts compared to actual “audiophile” speakers. Which is clearly a subjective word but, you get the point. On that note the sub mini directly compared to sb1000, svs is much better and it’s literally $30 cheaper on the outlet page. Anyways I’m going down a rabbit hole.
Thanks, this is great to hear. I’m always impressed by how good sound can be under $1k. Just because a speaker is expensive that doesn’t necessarily mean great sound. 😁
nice vid
well presented
Thanks
Brother has got a voice like butta, nice review.
Thanks 🙏🏾
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist when (if) another stimulus check comes I'm jumping on the SB 1000, strictly for music. Everything I've read about it is great. For music and $500 dollars is there anything better???
Is any of them slow? I got klipsch sw120 in the past and it was horrible. Bass was unhearable or it was making me headach because it was to slow and bass was awful.
No, I didn’t have any issues with either being unlistenable.
wow not your fault on this, its speaker design, but your are even comparing a 10 inch to a 12 inch sub. not sure if thats the sizes but the size of the sealed means a lot in terms of power from the sub as well as response. i guess that makes sense why they made the ported smaller, but if you made the ported the same size tuned right you would FEEL a lot more. you would appreciate the port a lot more
Where can I get either one of these subs for $500. Everywhere I look the SB 1000 is $599 and the PB-1000 is $799. Has the prices went up that much in a year.
Prices have probably increased since this video was made.
how far is the mic from the speakers ?
Typically 5 inches
are 1000 series one note subwoofers ?
Not sure what you mean by one note but they are reasonably balanced for movies and must but when put together I found the Sb is better at music while the Pb is better for movies, as mentioned in the video.
Difficult to explain but more or less when you are playing a movie you would hear the same bass note just louder or quieter. Or different songs for that matter would have the same note.
One thing about your review that is incorrect, but it is not your fault. You introduced them as being from Ohio. As I had discovered this brands existence maybe 10 years ago, it was about three years ago that I found out that they were in Youngstown Ohio, about a two minute drive from my job. Well, last year I needed a new sub, so I decided to go pay them a visit to demo a few subs only to find out that they have no retail space, nor do they have any local distributors. The closet store that carried any of their products was in Cleveland Ohio, about an hour and a half away. I did eventually order a PB1000 from an online distributor, and when I received it, the info on the subwoofer said made in China. The subwoofer is a very good sounding sub, quality construction, if I were to ever purchase another sub, I would definitely consider this brand again, but it just kind of gets me that they don't have ANY type of retail support in the city that they are based in. 😔
Thanks for the info!
As a movie guy my preference is always ported especially if the price is the same, u just get more bang for ur buck and can always plug the port. But for $500, my personal opinion, the monolith thx 10 by monoprice is definitely the best deal! 10 inch driver, 500w rms 900w peak amp at just under 80lbs and a solid 18hz, that thing is a beast and will definitely blow any other $500- sub out of the water.
I currently have 2x Klipsch R-100SW
Would the SB-1000 be a huge upgrade?
And the PB-1000 be a massive upgrade?
SB-1000 is €500,- here
PB-1000 is €550,- here....
However I will have trouble fitting the PB1000 in my room since the R-100SW is already a thight fit
I think you’ll get nice deep bass? Are you planning to upgrade both so you would get 2 SB-1000s? If so that’s what I would recommend.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist I would like nice deep bass! I am indeed planning to upgrade both of them. So why the SB-1000 instead of the PB-1000?
Thanks for your reply!
Some people say I should get the PB-1000 or the Pro vesion because of movies
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist I would like nice deep bass! I am indeed planning to upgrade both of them. So why the SB-1000 instead of the PB-1000?
Thanks for your reply!
Some people say I should get the PB-1000 or the Pro vesion because of movies.
I mostly watch movies or listen to house/techno/hardcore (EDM).
Yes, the pb is better for movies, I mentioned the sb since you said the R-100SW is a tight fit. Basically I thought you might be space constrained.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Ah okay! Well the PB would fit, I just have to move some stuff but it will fit!
I just have to get a small TV Cabinet which I was planning to do already.
Someone said: you could also get the Klipsch R-115SW. but then they would be about 55cm apart so that my receiver only barely fits in the middel 🤣🤣🙈
Audio Samples.. hmm.. I cannot tell the difference. I am listening on my $2 headphones. How can I "feel" what svs 1000 sounds like on ANY other subs or headsets/headphone etc... ? xD
I’d love to see a Monolith 10 vs PB1k battle. That’s the real $500 shipped battle in my opinion.
For whatever reason, finding CEA-2010 numbers for the PB is a hard thing to do. My understanding is the Monolith handles the deep bass a little better where as the PB handles midbass a little better.
Very helpful.🔊👍🏼🙏🏼✌🏼🕺🏻💃🏼 thank you. The 1000 for me 😉
Thanks for watching!
To those reading the comments:
Fact -
Sealed: more even response, smooth rolloff, less output, plays deeper but much quieter at lowest frequencies, easier to EQ.
Ported: likely peak at tuning frequency, louder than sealed at and around tuning frequency, almost useless below tuning frequency, similar to sealed an actave above tuning, larger group delay, sharp rolloff below tuning frequency, useful response all the way down to tuning frequency with no EQ (unlike sealed)
The BIG BUT: the sealed SB1000 has a 12" driver instead of a 10" and that makes a very big difference.
Opinion
I love ported subs myself but between these two go for the SB 1000. The larger driver almost makes up for the lack of port and the PB 1000 with its tiny 10" driver won't really give you "that rumble" in movies even though it has a port. Neither one will but the 12" SB1000 will be more competent in more scenarios than the PB1000. The PB will be louder at a few select frequencies but will overall be worse in both output and accuracy.
In this comparison the sealed sub is a clear winner imo.
Best good "budget" subwoofer ?
Depends on what you're looking for but these two are great, so is the Monoprice Monolith 10" (czcams.com/video/OSR5zcaFSnQ/video.html) if you're looking for depth, the RSL Speedwoofer 10s is great fun sub, and the Klipsch SPL 100 (czcams.com/video/nWLfZSOvOZ0/video.html) is also good.
great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lmao did I hear Street Fighter music during the final thoughts?
😁😁
7:07 audio samples
Sb 7:07 pb 7:14
svs or hsu?
I prefer Hsu but I haven’t tried the svs “pro” line so that may change my mind. 😁
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist heres my exact situation ill get an estimate and if my sonance sub repair cost is good ofc ill go that if not ill go mk5 and while i win either way since i dont like the pb 1000 for me should i feel oh i messed up baaad and guilty?
I have the PB 1000 and this sucker thumps.
😁😁
Should have bought a Rel!
Those things go for like $1000. For an 8 inch! Now I get that the sound quality is really nice, but I personally don't think it's worth it. Those are like... Endgame subs. You're at the point where you have to pay thousands of dollars extra for small differences.
These are 1000$ Amazon's Canada now
Bro you have gotta tell me where you got that amazing as fuck poster from
I don't see the point of listening to audio samples on youtube... you're always going to hear only what your own physical speakers can reproduce. How does that tell you that the sampled subwoofer is actually better than the other then?
Can you hear a difference between the two?
The point here is to hear the relative difference not absolute.
Not sure if you know what you're talking about, but your videos are well done... But I cannot understand why anyone who supposedly "knows enough" to be reviewing audio gear would ever think that recording "demos" makes any damn sense at all. As if us watching these vids are actually hearing what you heard in your room? Maybe I'm missing something... but I don't think so, lol.
Thanks for watching. I add audio to videos for 3 main reasons:
1. Some people want to hear the audio even if it’s not the same.
2. Audio comparisons between two or more speakers are useful because it allows the listener to hear the relative difference between the speakers. Obviously it’s not exactly what I hear in my room but relative to one another.
3. The medium of video allows audio playback. Growing up reading print publications either magazines or on the Web didn’t include audio only pictures so I think it’s nice to take advantage of the medium.
I'm mostly a home theater guy,but I'd have to choose the SB1000 because of the much smaller size.
Understood
I'd rather a musical sub for movies than a ht sub for music.
@riikerman Funny how companies like SVS and REL disagree.
But just go dual I went PB1000 x 2
Nice!
Pb looks like having chuffing problem from port.
That was poor mic placement on my part 😒, not audible from seating position
To the guy presenting this video: whilst I appreciate the warmth of your voice, why do you speak so low, as like you are afraid not to wake up someone sleeping next to you? :)
I've built several sub-woofers, none of which cost less than $500 in components, so a $500 off-the-shelf sub-woofer is crap. End of "review". My cheap Dayton Titanic III 12" sub was $320-ish (used) for the driver, $350-ish for the 500 watt amp and over $150 in plywood (all 3/4" mostly double layered). Built, it weighs about 180-200 lbs. It's an adequate home theater/music sub with a response of 17-50 Hz +/- 2 dB @ 119 dB crossed to my choice of two sets of MT speakers, one set is far more music oriented and analytical, the other more relaxed and forgiving of source material. If you can BUILD a good sounding sub-woofer for less than a dollar a pound, you should get a write up in the top audio magazines. If you can BUY one for less than five dollars a pound, it's a miracle like a pink unicorn.
So what off the shelves Subwoofer is good?
Take this video down, this sub is now $800
What are you talking about?