SVS SB 1000 PRO! KEF KC62 KILLER?! || KEF KC62 VS SVS SB-1000 PRO Subwoofer Review of the Facts!
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- SVS SB 1000 Pro - FINALLY released in 2021! Kef KC62 vs SVS SB 1000 Pro? I think the new SVS SB-1000 Pro subwoofer is a Kef KC62 killer! In this video, we will review the facts and hopefully you can determine what is the right subwoofer for you!
The SVS SB 1000 Pro has a new upgrade 12 inch high excursion driver, 325w Sledge amplifier. As the newest addition to the SVS Pro range of subwoofers, it has the SVS Smart app, which means you can now calibrate the subwoofer from the comfort of your listening position. You can also run parametric equalisation which makes this a truly killer sub for the money.
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SB-1000 Pro vs Kef KC62...I mean...really? Do you *honestly* think the KC62 can win this fight?
Kef KC62 = Overvalued in 2021 || SVS SB-1000 Pro = Whoopin' some ass in 2021
Dude I really like your honest answers. No beating around the bush and if it hurts peoples feelings because their initial decision turned out wrong, that's on them. You are spitting facts bro keep it up.
thanks dude
Great review ! You def know your HT tech mate..
I have dual svs sb1000 pro subs paired with kef lsx. Sounds phenomenal. I couldn't say it any better. You're better off going dual subs for the similar price of one. Anyone who haven't experienced dual subs than you cannot argue this topic. Great video btw.
Agreed :D
You are talking nothing but sense. Most refreshing, keep it up, my brother.
Appreciate the kind words! Thanks brother :D
Two for the price of one. I would do it in a heartbeat. Good review and thanks for keeping it real. Waiting for your pv1d review mate. I have B&w set up and just added svs sides. Svs is legit. I'm satisfied and would recommend them.
Cheers for the positive feedback mate! I agree..SVS is legit and the value is there!
I have written the B&W PV1-D down - it's on my desk and I will try and find a way to get a video made soon! I have so many reviews to do right now! I keep promising people things lol.
Thank you again!
Great review. I would love a detailed comparison on the SB1000 Pro vs SB3000 Micro. I have seen you made a few comments here and there, and it seems they are VERY similar, with the edge actually going to the 3000 micros, despite its size?
I think with those two models it comes down to cost/space. They will perform quite similarly and I believe the 3000 micro will have the edge in the 50hz+ bass potentially. But overall you will be paying quite alot more for the 3000 micro (especially now SVS have induced their price hikes).
If space/design isn't as much of an issue, I'd go with the two 1000 pros
Going by most reviews and feedback, the 1000 goes deeper and louder, while the 3000 micro is more controlled and tighter.
Order a month ago my SVS SB1000pro but must wait till early may for delivery (Europe) also because of you're comment but also for the price of course.
ah I see. I hope it goes well for you :)
Also, have you seen the news about the SVS 3000 Micro? It is similar power to the SB1000 Pro, but in a smaller package
@@propercushty Yes a have seen already a few reviews but this SVS 1000 pro is ok for me and that app is a verry good bonus . As you now a have the original LS 50 speakers and together with my new cambridge cxa 61 amp , rocket 11 audioquest speaker cable and this sub a think a gonna have a eargasm. And of course it always can better but also expensiver but i'm satisfied with this combination. Keep up the good work caveman.
@@vibesahead haha thank you mate! Wishing you the best for your future eargasms haha
What is reference dB for music?
not sure if there is an official value for music - i know a guy who produces at a target 75db but also masters at 85db
Hahaha, liked the last part of the video :D
It's working or else you wouldn't mention it ;)
Thanks for your review of 1000 pro, it sounds like very good value. Can you get a sample of it and KC62 to try? I'd love hear your comments on the real performance of each one with a direct comparison. In my 5x4m room I do want a sub as small as possible without a big sacrifice of perfermance.
I can definitely try my best Gordon. At the moment the KC62 is sold out and the SB-1000 pro hasn't officially arrived yet. But when these 2 subs are out I'll try and get them side by side.
My room is 5.5mx3m and my XTZ 12 inch ported still struggles to keep its integrity below 30hz.
I did have the SB2000 a couple of years back and I found it very small in my room. Tucked into a corner right next to the sofa and still sounded fantastic. The other half loved it. Only got rid because I really want movies to sound extra good, but a second SB2000 would have cost me another grand. In the UK, they're unfortunately overpriced when compared to US prices!
If you can't wait and need a sub now, just try and get a home demo of the KC62, SB1000 Pro and SB2000 Pro. Even the SB3000 is cheaper than the KC62, and they're only the tiniest bit bigger.
At least demo them and see what you like best!
In any case, I'll try get my hands on these models when there is sufficient stock available!
Ok, ordering svs-1000 pro today :D
I have returned it. Didnât like it. The piano white color looks nice but the grill doesnât match the body color tone. Lastly the auto on off feature doesnât work properly. And I always hear buzzes when it turns on and off. Poorly designed in my opinion.
â@@sunjunme If you have an amplifier or receiver with 12V triggers, that'll work far more reliably than auto on/off.
I wonder if svs sb 1000 pro would match well with my kef ls 50
Subs are easier to match than other speakers. The frequency range is so limited (and low) that different coloration is hardly a problem. If a sub performs well, it'll perform well with any other speakers.
I recently got a second sub. I had no idea what i was missing until i got it. 2 subs beats 1 any day of the week.
So much better right? We have stereo woofers in a set of speakers, so why not stereo bass? Just makes sense if you ask me lol
i paid something like 280 for my piano black sb2000, i love it.
amazing price - I would have bought 4 at that price!
Imma agree with ya! Im sorta a Kef person (Love the Metas). I DO want matching speakers and such but I also want my chair to rattle when that bomb explodes in the movie, or I'm listening to something with a LOT of bass (Rap or Beastie Boys or whatever). I want the room to rattle. I would buy the SVS 1000 Pro and in fact that is what I am planning on buying. Maybe even the bigger one...
if you have a deep wallet then the KF92 from Kef is another option
I do agree with you from a value point of view but as far as whether the kef is capable or not it would be better if you can get it and review it personally, I have a town house with only a small family room to work with so a 12in sub would be an over kill, 8 would probably be more than sufficient for my system.
Thanks for the honest feedback. The whole point of this video was to show unsuspecting folk that better deals are available. This KC62 is simply grossly overpriced. You'd be surprised how many people have messaged me asking for my opinion because they've seen the advertising, and they believe this sub truly is going to be ideal for movies.
I understand you live in a town house and perhaps the KC62 is suitable for you; but a 12 inch sealed sub is still very, very small..I mean, its a few inches bigger than a KC62? I would encourage you to check out the dimensions more closely and see for yourself..perhaps you're thinking of a ported 12 inch sub?
Anyway..the KC62 is a 10 inch cube box..the SVS SB1000 is a 13 inch cube. My opinion is save the grand for a holiday lol.
Even so, I wouldn't call it overkill, because you still have to calibrate the subwoofer gain to the correct level..just because it is bigger, doesn't mean it will blow your roof off lol. It just means it will handle the lowest frequencies with more integrity.
But I respect your opinion and thank you again for the feedback!
I believe in physics.
lol I should hope so
Dear Caveman, as you maby now i saw you before and love people like you that go for price/ quality it's also my personality. I was thinking to buy that KC62 for my LS 50 speakers but from the beginning i found those to expensive for my budget. In the maintime a watch 3 other revieuws about this SVS SB 1000Pro and i am convinced gonna buy this one thanks to you . Do you now this number about a cavaman because you are from another generation like me im 67.
Song: The Jimmy Castor Bunch "Troglodyte" (Caveman ) check it out ! Thanks again. Keep up the gooood work. Grts. me.
Wow..I am so glad I managed to help you! This makes all my work worth it. I'm so glad you feel you are now buying the correct subwoofer, and I am very happy you are saving money in the process! This is the perfect situation!
I have never heard this song before hahahah :D.
I will listen to it now and I will add it to my audiophile playlist :)
Thank you Friend đ
Nice video as usual. Can't wait to hear double pb1000pro in my HT.
599$ in US, I'm concerned regarding the price in Italy/Europe. Let's hope no higher than 699âŹ... But I guess will be 799⏠or more đ.
Regards from Italy
Good choice! Yes, it is definitely more expensive in Europe for sure. That's a shame really because in the US you get great deals.
But still better than Kef KC62 for value!
Thanks for the positive feedback mate!
@@propercushty will be hard choice between new 1000 and XTZ 12.17 edge.
Could be a nice topic for one of your next comparison đ
@@alessandroquattrini2358 ah, you have a point there!
Gut feeling says if you want primarily movies then go for a PB1000 Pro, or even better PB2000 Pro over the XTZ!
If you want music in there from time to time, perhaps XTZ will do it better :D
Its âŹ599 for black ash and for the high gloss âŹ699
@@ParalyzZed Thanks for sharing!
Iam a fan of the kef 62 but i gotta say you hit everthing rite on he mark in my opinion brođđđ....
thank you mate :) - nice one
I have a sb1000 pro arriving on demo next week to go with my kef ls50 meta's, if i like it i might get another one to have a dual set up
Yeah I think that is the way to go personally..deffo would rather 2 of those than 1 KC62!
@@propercushty not sure i want the hassle of two subwoofers though, my other option is to get one sb3000
@@hclandscapes yeah it is a bit more hassle, but well worth it if you have a medium-large sized room to pressurise. One you get them set up in their positions you'll never have to move them again, so that's a bonus.
I think 2x SB1000 Pro should sound better overall than 1x SB3000 but only way to know for sure is to test!
@@propercushty I have had an sb3000 before so i know how it sounds and im hoping the sb1000 pro will have similar sound quality but obviously im not expecting it to play so loud ,
i don't think i need all that power that the sb3000 has anyway but definitely looking forward to trying out the sb1000 pro.
Looks like svs have made some improvements to the amplifiers on the new pro 1000's .
I think controller app is great dont know why other manufacturers aren't doing this?
Svs have told me that i can run dual subs with my Hegel H120 by running each sub cable from the L and R pre outs.
I will let you know how it sounds.
@@hclandscapes Yes please do!
2 subwoofers increase the coverage of an area... Also sometimes less complicated is better.
True but 2 subwoofers is what experts would recommend if you want your system to sound correct. My advice is for people who value the sound first - it's not really for people who care so much about brand image, nor for people who care more about their decor really!
@@propercushty I get that... I like hearing and reading about the technology tho... Thanks for taking the time to respond
@@hillre14 Cool no worries - happy to respond! Subwoofers are a very personal thing and very interesting once you get into it
Please do a lot of subwoofer reviews please!
lol my pleasure - any specific subs you're interested in?
Man Discovers Tech Ouf I have an idea. I reckon you should go to lower budget drivers up to the more larger and expensive drivers that could make you grow more viewers like a series.
You're entertaining aswell so it would work! I'd say start with the cheapest Klipsch subwoofer against Polk audio or something then all the way to SVS's low range , RELs low range , RYTHMIK JTR etc. Then go to their mid ranges to higher ranges etc.
@@maincharacter2677 Gosh I didn't know I was entertaining! You made me blush..thank you!
That's a great idea! There's just one thing...because I kind of speak my mind on this channel, alot of speaker companies don't want to work with me lmaoo..Basically if I say anything negative about their speakers, it kinda means they won't send me anything.
I made a video about it about a week ago..czcams.com/video/V91jQ4xG9TU/video.html
If you haven't seen the vid, you might be quite surprised about the letters these companies send me..take a look as I'd love to hear your suggestions about what you think I could do.
I mean..I have seen and played so many subs in the past, so I kind of know how a sub is likely to perform judging by the spec sheet and my past experiences with brands...and I can definitely judge value based on things like price and components..so I could do that I guess?
What do you think?
Man Discovers Tech Ill watch that now then i'll get back to you!
@@propercushty Unfortunately biased reviews will never stop especially when money is involved haha it's very disrespectful of them to talk about your knowledge when you clearly know what you're talking about. It's kind of like being paid to lie at some degree or being paid to keep your mouth shut about the flaws of the review sample etc.
When I heard the news yesterday I ended up buying 2 SVS PB1000 pro's đ
Where did you buy them from and how much? I tried everyone and only one seller got back to me, they said theyâre expecting them Monday morning but donât have a price yet.
@@thehal991 I bought it from SVS website directly. If you're planning on buying 2 subs make sure you click on dual subs, you'll save $50-$100 depending on which subs you're buying. PB1000 pro are $599 each or $1149 for both plus free shipping.
45 days in home trial, if you don't like it you can return it for 100% refund. 1 year trade up, within a year of purchase you can upgrade to any subs they offer you just have to pay the difference. They also comes with 5 years warranty.
@@retroforce6919 oh I'm from the UK , that makes sense, thought I was missing out đ€Ł
Have you had a chance to run them in and are you happy with them? What subs do you normally run?
Thanks.
Thanks for getting back to me đ
@@thehal991 currently I'm running 2 Polk Audio subs. I know the SVS PB1000 pro will be night and day difference in a positive way. To be honest for my space the Polks sounds good enough but it doesn't go to deep as the SVS subs. They'll ship them out tomorrow, I'm so looking forward to it.đđ
@@retroforce6919 I have a single REL and was just about to buy a second REL for $500 until I heard about the new SVS. Think I'll buy a SB1000 PRO, sell my old REL and with the money buy second SB1000 PRO... Dual set up baby! Lol!
Let me know how you get on with yours.
If its about performance it's about speed more speed more musical information. And if it's physics which driver moves out and then return faster the 6 inch or a 12 inch thats my question to you. and by the way you have a great point 2 for 1
If you want a 'speedy' subwoofer, then it also depends on what you're able to perceive. The SB1000 original was plenty speedy even though it being a 12 inch. The KEF has 2x 6.5 inch but these are all controlled by one magnet, so as it is an unconventional design, it would be difficult to predict how speedy it would be.
A 12 inch driver doesn't necessarily move more slowly compared to a 6.5 inch: it really depends on the quality of the magnet system behind it. An appropriate magnet would get the subwoofer performing just how you'd like it to.
Yeah when you consider 2 for 1 and still money left over, it makes you wonder why is the KC62 so costly?
Because it's probably the best performance you can get out of a box that size and shape. However, you pay a hefty price for that performance. If you're willing to go a little bit bigger, there are better and cheaper options available. If you can go a little bigger and with two, the performance will be a lot better.
Before I say anything let me preface by saying... Iâm probably getting a REL t9i to pair with my LS50W2 but....one thing you arenât factoring is wife factor. Not many wives are going to want 2 subs aesthetically even if we would. Also in the US their distributors offer 45-60 day trials of the KEF.
WAF? Whatâs WAF? Someone needs to put on his Daddy-pants đ
Hello mate, how you doing! Remember you from a few other sub videos :D
Ah, are you still on the fence about subs then? It's a hard game my friend lol.
Mate, I totally get what you mean about the wife factor. It's just I've had lots of comments over the past couple of weeks - some people say they want 2 subs, and sub people only 1. I've had a guy say he just bought some LSX or LS50 (forgot which) and that he is now being told ideally he should buy 2 and is therefore considering it. He said he feels sick at the prospect of buying 2x KC62 for $3000, so I kind of made this video for people who want to save a buck and get the best value possible.
I do agree that when I make the videos I have to speak in broad terms to accommodate everybody. At one point in the video, I think I said I understand why people would want a Kc62 (like in terms of the aesthetics and/or to get a matching system with LS50). But style is such a subjective thing, and I could never really recommend a set of speakers to somebody on that basis. So I try to just focus on the facts when I give my thoughts, you know? I don't want to interfere with your marriage lmao :D
If we were strictly talking one subwoofer, I still think the SB1000 Pro is better. My cousin has the SB1000 and he says it's great, just the issue is without the smart controls it might be a bit annoying for people who want a simple setup procedure.
This Pro changes the game...for the price...I mean..one could literally save just under a grand and get arguably stronger bass performance.
If you wanted to spend more and get a similar-sized cabinet, then the SB2000 Pro is what I'd recommend if it just had to be 1 subwoofer. That will knock the KC62 out of the park and it's also very versatile for music and movies.
You could go all the way up to SVS SB3000 and you're still saving a couple hundred quid over the KC62.
Value-wise, the KC62 is just very poor for me. But if my wife were stricter, then maybe I'd see it another way lol!
Didn't realise about the 45-60 day trials in US for KEF. Fair play...I think that has something to do with the US culture towards customer service. In the UK, companies are a bit nastier to be honest!
Take care my man :D
Go wireless and put it under a table. Wife still hasn't noticed it. I put a little vail over top of it seems to have worked so far lol
@@brandonbrodbeck6688 lol great idea..and I'm all for wireless subs if it means you can place it appropriately and even go dual!
Why would you not want 2 subwoofers? It's pretty much crucial in any room. Two subwoofers disrupt room nodes and is proven to flatten the frequency response. Eq from a single subwoofer alone will do nothing if you have a null.
Go with two slightly smaller ones if you have to please the wife, you'll get a 3db~ boost in low frequencies from them anyhow. Or you can get a larger main one set up at front at the best location in your room for subsonics, then have a smaller hidden one in the opposite back corner for near field reinforcement.
Caveman has an American accent.
itâs not about spl. itâs about what people want in terms of look, technology, etcc some people buy 10,000 dollar subwoofers when they could of spent less. but itâs what they wanted. enough with this picking on the kc62. u seriously have nothing better to do in life?
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I disagree. People will not solely buy a subwoofer just on technology, unless the technology has some impact on spl/output (ie Eq, flattening the response). Also I'm sure that looks is usually less important, why would anyone buy something for much more money to perform worse because it looks pretty?
The only reason people buy more expensive speaker equipment is because 1) it has more/better output capability 2) because it sounds better/has better tonality. You should of mentioned 2 to your reasoning instead of attacking the video maker for no reason.
@@coldcraze yep..for me, I buy a set of speakers because it's like a musical instrument..they're meant to reproduce music or, if not specifically music, real life sounds.
These noises from the real world are embedded in our long-term acoustic memory: our brains aren't stupid and they know when something sounds real and when it does not.
If I were watching a movie and let's say, something blows up, then how can we expect a mini sub like the kc62 to really reproduce that?
I don't buy a set of audio equipment because the technology is newest - I buy whatever technology works!
If cost was no object, I buy beauty. Iâd get a 15 channel Sonus Faber system anchor by a pair of SF Amatiâs and Gravis subs pushed by $100,000 electronics. Iâd put them in in the main living room of my beautiful yacht. As is, however, Iâd like to have something that looks nice enough to not distract from all the money weâve put into nice furniture. Iâd just be happy if more of these companies would offer more finish options at this point. In fact, I got a little excited about doing in wall subs but so far it seems that an in wall that can compete with the big boys is crazy expensive. Iâm now seriously considering dual (smallish) subs permanently in the living room with a gigantic Rythmik or HSU sub on wheels that I can keep in another room and roll it out for movie nights. đ
None of these two subs to test out? Why waste time posting
Same reason you waste time commenting lol.
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White and Black are shades, not colours
lol great distinction there...to get scientific, I actually thought white was a mixture of all the colours, and with paint the same applies to black..So by definition..if they're made up of colours, are they not also colours too?
@@propercushty Technically there are only 3 colors: RGB. The rest are shades (percentages of RGB). White is simply light. Black is absence of light.
ââ@@gvidas7333 no, technically RGB is a method of coding a large range of colours with only three primary colours. That something isn't a primary colour doesn't mean it isn't a colour.
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You didn't here any of them so why call it a review? It's not, not even a hands-on. It's just share what you think based on, well uuhh, nothing.
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This is the fourth video this tool has done to trash the KEF KC62, and he still hasnât even heard one. Four videos and no personal experience. Heâs just trying to maximize his clicks by discussing a product that everyone is curious about without buying one or even listening to one. What a loser.
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