SVS PB1000 Pro 2023 Subwoofer Review.
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SVS PB1000 Pro: www.svsound.com/products/pb-1...
Other SVS Reviews:
SB1000 Pro Review: • SVS SB-1000 PRO Subwoo...
SVS Micro Review: • SVS Micro 3000 Subwoof...
Test Equipment:
Preamp & Power Amplifiers:
Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 mono blocks: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
Hegel H190: www.hegel.com/en/products/int...
Emotiva TA2: emotiva.com/collections/pre-a...
Galion TS120 SE: www.galion-audio.com/collecti...
Source: Bluesound Node 2i
www.crutchfield.com/p_813NODE...
(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Denafrips Ares II
www.vinshineaudio.com/product...
Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4
www.mazeaudio.com/speaker-cabl...
(rest in peace Kent)
Interconnect Cables:
Analysis Plus Oval One RCA
Oyaide Tunami Terzo XX V2 XLR
analysis.plus/product/oval-on...
Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment. - Věda a technologie
Loving the energy in that intro 🤘🏻⏬️, app adjustment demonstration was a great visual touch.
thank you bro!
I just ordered one this morning and I'm very excited to try it out in my new house I'll be moving into next month
have sv1000 pro after watched Your video and advice :) working incredible :) everything the best :)
I run two Martin logan dynamo 500 subs for my Focal chorus 807v 120 watts amp and I love the punch I get from them when they are blended right.
Cheers Nemo,, 🍻😎👍👍
Let’s go!
Great review on a high-value sub as usual from your channel! One thing of note about sealed vs reflex (ported in this case) is that REL chose a reflex system in their music-focused sub line like the T7x. REL went one step further and chose a passive radiator vs a port which is a 5th order slope and has even more group delay than a port. It made me question a few things. I think the focus was a lighter cone and voice coil which would have a higher resonant frequency and required help from a reflex design. I suppose they found that lighter moving mass made more difference than the spring restoring force and lower group delay of the sealed/acoustic suspension design.
REL takes a different approach to PR subs, personally I just consider them sealed subs as most PR subs are a little sloppy and sound more like large vented subs while REL's PR subs are tight, quick, and extremely detailed.
A great review of a budget subwoofer from a company that exceeds customer service expectations
I don't think it is 'budget' anymore when it costs over $1000 elsewhere in the world.
Budget entry level in SVS line up…… sure
In general most people wouldn’t call an 700-800 dollar sub a budget one
Money don’t grow on trees like that my guy
Nice review!! Are you planning to review the Starke line of subs? Particularly the SW15. Would be curious how you like the performance relative to price and the fact that it's sealed. Keep up the work!
No, I do not wish to discuss Starke or their products.
Iv had the pb1000s since they got released and I came from sb3000s because I wanted to go back to ported and couldn’t do the pb3000s for the price so went the 1ks and had them ever since I don’t know why but they just sound the best in my room for musics and movies they hit hard for the entry level I would say these are pb2000s really
it's def a great value to performance ratio!
Fuuuck, i want both... Need to get two porter now
I just snagged a pb-1000 pro in Canada for 1100. Way too much, but so is everything here. Your review at least makes me feel better about spending it on that instead of groceries, which also cost 1100 these days here. I may be hungry, but damn will the soundtrack be tight.
lololol, I respect your priorities :)
$1500 here in Australia 🇦🇺
@@mmmfreegoo23 that's not too bad with the exchange rate.
if it makes you feel any better I just ordered one for 1350 today in Canada lol
Nemo - Awesome review, but what else would the audio world expect from you at this point? I consider myself extremely lucky to own, have the space and spousal approval for a bigger ported Rythmik, but thought this review was very helpful for folks looking for subs in this price and size range. At that price (even after the increase), seems like a great value that would meet the needs of a lot of folks. Did you happen to listen to it or test it with the ports plugged? And if so, how did it compare to the sealed version? Also, thanks for the bass tracks mentioned in the video... realized after the review, that you have these and many more on the Nemo discord, but these tracks are freaking awesome and it prompted me to look closer at the Discord recommendations. Thanks for all you do for the basshead community!
Not on this particular model but my experience with plugging the ports on a vented sub is it helps tighten things up a bit at the expense of some low end authroity vented subs are known for but it doesn't make them sound like sealed subs because the cabinet is still very large. Basically to me the difference is small but some may feel differently. Either way its nice for the option to be there as users can experiment and find what they like but generally I've found I like my vented subs to stay vented.
Hey Nemo, Many vented subs are more than capable of accurate bass, while also producing deep, warm, thick, juicy low end. My subs are no longer in production. I run a pair of Klipsch Synergy Sub 12s.They are fast enough to produce nuanced, tight, clean bass and on paper they go down to 24hz. I have also tested them with a frequency sweep and discovered that they technically didn't stop moving until 5hz. Often, speed and accuracy have a lot to do with proper setup and calibration.. BTW smoothly flared ports do affect performance by reducing port noise, like chuffing!
I'm very familiar with the characteristics of vented & sealed subs, I don't think many people have heard as many as I have. Anyway, You love what you got, that's great. I am famliar with the Synergy sub, I believe it was a WireCutter favorite back in the day. Your vented sub moving at 5hz is because its in free-air well past the port tuning freq, I would recommend you not repeat that experiment as the limiter is the only thing keeping the sub alive at that point.
@@NemoPropaganda It was a 1 time test, tosee what the sub was ultimately capable of. I don't care about stuff below 20hz anyway since we can't hear that low.I recently auditioned the pb1000 pro and ithe sb1000 at Best buy and wasn't impressed but if you like it that's fine.I commented on your review of vented sub characteristics because you seemed to generalize a bit, no hate or anthing like that, it just seeemed that you were a bit oo general when speaking on vented box subwoofers.
@@addonisryan yeah, store demo doesn't really do most subs justice, even amazing subs like REL won't sound great at best buy. I do my best to say things like "genearlly speaking" or "usually" or "often times" when making generalized statements but my videos are filmed in a single take and without a script so it's not going to be perfect. I do stand behind what I said though. Unless we're talking about Rythmik most sealed subs will play tighter and with better transients than their vented coutnerparts.
Do you think you’ll be doing a review on the new RP series Klipsch subwoofers ?
possibly.
SVS SB 4000 Pro owner, not entirely disappointed, but responding to Rythmik and REL T/7x comments, later of both just exhibit (much) higher quality bass for music and theater applications. SVS app however can’t be beat, just depends on your needs. YMMV.
well said :)
I'd love a review of the rythmik entry ported lv12m
You mean lv12m ? The f is discontinued
@@danemoreno88 yes, I get them confused.
its on my radar, just been busy.
@@NemoPropaganda I'm a music only guy in a 3800 cuft living room that opens to a hallway and a kitchen. I'm looking for the best pair I can for 1200-1400 dollars. Any ideas?
@@bigmike5785 is that the total budget or per sub?
Awesome review, always love your content! 2 questions for you!
1) How does this compare to the Monolith M-12? I'm debating between the two. Had an M-10 that was too small for my space but it packed a serious punch.
2) Audioholics claims it's appropriate for a 3-5000 cu ft room. Mine's at 4500 cu ft, think the PB-1000 Pro is sufficient until I add a 2nd sub?
I have not heard monolith but if you're worried the pb1000 pro might be at its limit in your room just go for the RSL 12s.
Have you looked at Bowers and Wilkins subs? They have some in the general price range of this one
extremely expensive, rated in peak power, don't have a relationship with them which makes the whole thing a non-starter. Though I am curious and would happily accept a review sample of a DB3D.
@@NemoPropaganda they have two in the 600 series that are affordable. 610 and 608
@@lsaideOK i see you are not familiar with the body of my work :(
The bowers and wilkins asw610 xp os rated at 500 watts, so is that peak or rms? How would the this sub compare with the svs SB 1000 pro?
A few years back you favorably reviewed the SVS SB3000. How do you think the SB3000 stacks up to the PB-1000 Pro? Obviously the PB1000 Pro will reach lower than the SB3000, which is no slouch in that area but in terms of Home Theater use I'd be curious to know what you think. The reason for asking is that I'm looking at both subs and have had extensive conversations with the SVS guys. After I sent them a rough diagram of my open living room with a 5.1.4 system they felt that the SB3000 would be a better choice and that it would be able to push a substantial volume of air into the room. Either sub would be placed in the right corner of the short wall where my AV stand is located. It's the only possible placement which the SVS folks took into account along with air cubic feet. I've had sealed and ported subs and while, sometimes, there are discernable differences, other times not so much. I've heard both subs at friend's homes and while the PB-1000 Pro can shake the walls, the SB3000 seemed to create a "livelier" overall sound. So, again, any light that you can shed would be appreciated.
Hi Lewie, it sounds like you are leaning towards the SB3000, personal taste is a big factor here as both subs are great just different. I don't think you can go wrong either way. The PB1000 Pro will be more effortless in the lower frequencies while the SB3000 trades some of that for a tighter sound that is more tactile. Based on what you've wrote it sounds like you may prefer that slight trade off, so I say go for the SB3000 :)
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks brother. My buddy with the Sb3000 has an SVS Prime speaker system while I have an RSL system/SVS system (cg23-cg25-cg23 front array, cg3 Surrounds and SVS Prime Elevations as F/R Heights) . I think that the 3000 will play well with my rig so I'm going to pull the trigger on one and, given the generous SVS return policy, it's risk free.
Keep up the good work.
Amazing video. RSL has a 12 coming out soon. Should I wait for your review before I buy.
yes, its giant box is sitting in my garage right now.
@@NemoPropaganda nice I can’t wait for your review on. Man I’ve been following your advice for a while now and you have been right on. From me 2 Chanel to my home Theater.
@@felixlaboy1453 I'll give you a sneak peak for now, the RSL is substantially larger, check its measurements and make sure you can accomodate such a large sub, if you can it's very capable and will have more output than the PB1000 pro but if its too big then go for the pb1000 pro. I'm not 100% sure yet but I think it makes the most sense to pick one over the other with phsyical size being the primary factor as they both have some unique features. RSL has high pass built in which makes setup easy as hell, SVS has a cell phone app which is really cool, both have killer output/extension for their size, one is just a lot bigger and will play a lot louder.
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you very much. Really something to consider size wise. Thanks again man. Have a amazing weekend
@@NemoPropaganda If size was not a issue would you go with the RSL.
Do you think this will pair well with a few 300 watt Tannoy Gold 8's, power wise?
I'm not familiar with those speakers at all.
@NemoPropaganda Hi ! In my small room, the size would fit either the PB 1000 Pro or the SB 3000. For Home cinema (I hardly listen to music), what do you recommend, given your experience of listening to both subwoofers? Thank you !
Why not PB2000 Pro vs SB3000 since they are the same price? Either way I think SB3000 is great if you need to save on space and want a smaller sub and while it can technically play a little louder than the PB1000 Pro I would rather have a single PB1000 Pro for cinema instead of 1 SB3000. For sure PB2000 Pro also. I like both SB and PB ranges but I feel PB sounds more effortless in a theater setting. They are very popular so try to demo one if you can but yeah I would go for PB1000 pro for sure.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the answer ! Unfortunately, the PB 2000 Pro does not fit in any way due to the furniture. Of all the subwoofers from the SVS company, only SB 3000 and SB 4000 fit. By the way, an interesting question (if you do not take the price into account) SB 4000 versus PB 1000 pro? for movies only
@@morozovkirill I have heard all the SVS subs except the 4000 series so I don't have any comment.
What sub would work better with Focal Chora 806, Sb 1000 Pro or this vented version? Rock, metal, punk etc genres and small home theater use.
I like Focal, I like SVS, I think they are terrible together though.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, not too many other brands are available in my country. No idea if it is possible to EQ them to work together...
@@Lordofmrak if SVS is the only option SB 1000 pro would have a better chance of pairing well.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the advice. What brand would be the best? Rel?
@@NemoPropaganda Or maybe 3000 Micro, it is not a big room, hm...
I agree wats is not the key because I have a klipsch reference 12 inch 300 wats subwofer and boy that subwofer can kick hard on movies and music.
How you compere pb1000 pro to arendal 1961 1s? I know arendal is sealed I'm planing to get one of them in Europe they're same price tks
I believe I covered this in the video when I talked about how other sealed subs compare.
RSL 12s is the best subwoofer under 800 period
Do you have one?
@@bigmike5785 yes
@@djderekrock my speakers are all 80hz crossover and I have the lpf and hpf on the back of the sub to bypass plugged into lfe port on the back of the sub volume set to 50 percent I’m gonna run audessey today to get a baseline but right now it’s all default values on my avr
I have several SVS subs and for the money between my PB1000 Pro and my non pro PB1000 at their price points I prefer the non pro model. I really do not need an app though and do not use it. I tried it and thought it was interesting and convenient but don't use it. Wish they would make the non pro with a 12" woofer.
i get what you mean, the app is mostly benificial for mixed use, like if you game, listen to music, and do theater all on the same system and your AVR is more on the basic side I can see the user definable profiles being helpful but aside from that or owning multiple speakers you rotate once your sub is setup you shouldn't really need to make any more changes if its a single use system.
@@NemoPropaganda I just pulled the trigger on the PB1000 Pro. and I dont know if I am wrong but isnt the app also very useful to tame peaks in the frequency response and make the sub woofer play more linear? Also the ability to switch for music and movies are and lower or raise the gain are the things I think I will enjoy the most about the app. I just hope I am not disappointed in the bass response since I have used a Definitive Technology BP2002TL with built 12 inch powered woofers for years.
@@krishnataveras8734 I'm not sure, I have not heard that definitive model.
How does this compare to your Pyramid Sub?
lololol
why didt you not mention, that the subs comes. with port plugs, so it becomes a sealed sub? then it works like, the sealed subs. people like more for their music
because that's not entirely correct. Plugging the ports on a large vented sub will tighten things up a little bit, but just a little bit, it will not make it sound like its sealed counterpart, you still have a cabinet that's 3x the size.
@@NemoPropaganda yeah and you need to learn. How to read!! I wrote it clearly, its getting charactics from sealed bass. So its like a sealed.
@@tuemose22 nope, that's not what you said ya idiot. Nice try though. Your original comment is still there and pretty clear. Maybe you should read it again. You literally said "why didt you not mention, that the subs comes. with port plugs, so it becomes a sealed sub? then it works like, the sealed subs. people like more for their music" so maybe think twice before being rude next time huh? Or I can just block you so there won't be a next time, either way the choice is yours. You're a stranger on the internet and hold very little value to me.
If you had to choose between the pb1000 and the sb2000, which one would you take?
If I could only choose between those two personally I'd go for the PB1000 Pro, while the SB2000 Pro is technically better suited for music and should be most peoples logical choice I don't personally feel it's that much of a step up in terms of fidelity and I'd rather have the thicker bottom end of the PB1000 Pro
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the response. Have you heard a Monolith 10” sub. I was looking to see if you have reviewed one, but I didn’t see a video for it. If you have demoed one, how would you compare the Monolith 10” with the pb1000?
@@JP-pc6to I don't review monoprice products, I feel their subwoofers are a bit too "inspired by" SVS, so might as well just get the real deal. If you're looking for alternatives consider the REL HT1003 MK2.
Vented or ported? lol
same thing.
First
It ain't a looker but what SVS is? A sub to be hidden for sure
Really? I think its one of the better looking vented 12's.
I use the grill on a sub, unlike one that would cover a tweeter. So as long as it doesn't draw attention I'm good.
It’s good looking like a dodge charger is good looking, but it’s no hellcat more like the base model.
@Nemo Propaganda would you do dual pb1000 pro or dual rythmik lv12m ?
@@coreysenior they're both good but very different, the Rythmik is an SQ sub while the SVS is an SPL sub, I made a whole video about it that should help you decide which one is best for you: czcams.com/video/rEz03XkcslI/video.html