SVS SB-2000 Pro Subwoofer Review. Best for aggressive attack & feature set.
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Reviewed Today: SVS SB2000 Pro Sealed Subwoofer
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Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
Speakers: Emotiva Airmotiv B1+ Bookshelf Speakers
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Source: Bluesound Node 2i
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(all music is hi-res streamed from TIdal)
Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4 or Eden Series
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RCA Cables: Analysis Plus Oval One
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I've had the SVS PB-1000 in the past and you are completely right when it comes to value for your money. SVS definitely makes a solid subwoofer that hammers with very clean sound. The blend in sonically as well! Keep up the good work with your reviews!
Thank you Leo! I’ve always wanted to try the 1000 series, hopefully i will in the future.
Small channel for the moment.....your reviews are great and you cover a wide range of products that really assist in making a purchase. Keep up the good work....subs will rise!
I appreciate that!
your channel has almost 70k views & almost 19k Subs, put 19k people in a room and then tell me that's a small amount. SVS should be kissing your booty..... lol. Am looking at the SVS Micro 3000 or the KEF Kube 10"? Any Advice?
Nothing is small my brother . is what comes out of that channel that makes it big.
I really wanted the PB-4000 or the PB16-Ultras but when I reached out to SVS, they advised against it and insisted that I purchase the SB-2000 based on the dimensions of my room. I was blown away. Customer service is amazing. I'd definitely recommend reaching out to SVS before your purchase. I've never had a company that was more interested in making sure my purchase will have the most impact over selling the top model.
on yeah, they have a solid team over there, I'd go as far as saying they have one of the best customer service teams I've personally ever experienced. I've called a few times as a consumer and it felt like I was talking to an old friend about bass :)
Hi.. what size of your room dimensions?
@@ZallywhoVideoChannel 21.4L x 11.4w x 11.7h
I picked a 2000 pro up and tried it out playing Edge Of Tomorrow a few minutes ago...it was shaking the place to the point where I really wouldn't want anything more powerful, and it earns the name pro while playing music. Thanks, your review helped me decide what sub would work for me.
Nice!! The 2000 Pro is a great unit and the perfect size!!
Was that with 1 or 2 sb2000 pros?
best review of subs helped me decide for SVS over REL thanks
Did you see my REL review also? The REL 1205 and SVS SB2000 are very similar in spec. The cool thing is the REL is $100 cheaper but of course does not include the cell phone app. I'll also be reviewing the Rythmik L12 soon and then possibly a video comparing all 3 so if you can it might be good to wait for those videos :) If you want to know before or can't wait just email me. My email is listed in my about section.
love your reviews man. honest and to the point
Thank you for watching!
Purchased a pair of SB 2000 Pros 6 months ago, crazy clean bass.
awesome brother! I'm glad you're loving them!
Great review. Much thanks. I just ordered one.
Hope you enjoy it!
Good review.. I was going for 2 2000’s but for $200 for 2 3000’s I couldn’t say no, I also picked up a host of items from this hifi shop in Alexandria Va. , I drove 2.5 hours to see these guys, they were willing to deal more than my local guy, they sucked. I also picked up my dream machine Marantz 7015, my front stage Focals 826 ,center and rears. I bought 3 pairs of SVS elevation for Atmos sound, Panamax 5400.. a great protection for my gear, Panasonic UB9000, Sony Oled 77 , I came out of pocket about &2,000 to get this stuff, my insurance handled a huge amount .I wanted to get what I wanted no short cuts. This came about because of lightning storm, I lost everything electronic in my house , the bright side is I upgraded massively. Can’t wait to hook this stuff up ! I’ll send pics of my theater.
Subbed !
Hey Dave that sounds awesome! Sorry about the lighting storm though. Yeah the 3000 is another creature all together, you won't be disappointed.
Great reviews man. You deserve more subscribers..
Thank you brother.
Thank you, great insights!
Great review as always. Your channel deserves more attention.
I hope you can have a look at the new emotiva airmotiv se12, since you recently reviewed their 8 inch model
Thank you for the kind words. Good news! An SE12 will be landing at my front door in a few days :)
Nice Kinki Integrated Amp you got there. I have it also, I absolutely love it. Also have SB-3000 Subwoofer, another great bang for the buck like Kinki.
it is the EXP7 preamp as I use their mono blocks. Yeah SB3000 is great!
Great review. I'm a car audio guy through and through and have always gravitated towards sealed subs, especially JL Audio. I was not a fan of Klipsch ported subs such as the SPL series for home audio which I tried hard to like. Hard to configure with dsp. (Ported plus room gain nightmare) Just picked up 2 SB2000 pros and all the sudden brought me back to my car audio days... very clean subs and easy to calibrate with the built in DSP. If you have dirac, even easier! SVS SB series is kind of scary clean!
nice dude me too! stay tuned then, I have a few JL Audio home subwoofer reviews coming soon :D
Your channel won't be small for long. Good review. Nice and thorough. I did think that you could have slipped in the term "fiddle-fuck" when you described the adjusting of the subwoofer levels. :-)
Honestly that's like my biggest missed opportunity of 2020 so far, I'm seriously disappointed in myself. I will aspire to be better going forward.
I learned so much. Thank you
glad I could help :D
So glad I found this channel.
Great info/video. Subscribed👍
hey Tony, welcome aboard! I hope you like bass :D
@@NemoPropaganda Im a dj/producer so I love the bass. lol. I actually own a ton of PA & was planning on using it in my home theater. Then I starting watching some videos & realized that was not a good idea 😂 .
Btw. Just ordered a few SB-3000’s . Your videos helped me decide. Thanks again
@@Djtonydraper oh yeah, you don't want to do that, it'll play loud but not very deep or rumbly. Congrats on the 3000's, they're seriously capable of tons of output.
great review thanks
Thanks for watching!
Excellent!
Thanks for the vid. For future reference, you can have some brolls of each subs you mentioned during the comparison. You can also cut in some soft music but very low where you can barely notice. Amazing how you did everything in 1 cut/roll. Tells me how much you prepped for this video.
Thank’s dude! Newer vids have the brolls. Well they’re pictures. You can see it any of my recent ones like the 1000 pro.
Great review
Thank's Johnny!
I ❤ SVS!!! My sound system consists of 6 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers (2 for the mains, 2 for the side channels, and 2 for the rears), an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 4 SVS Prime Elevation speakers ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos and 2 SVS SB-3000 Subwoofers. The system is powered by a Parasound Halo A52+ 5 channel amplifier and a Yamaha Aventage RX-A8A 11 channel AVR with dual AC Infinity AIRCOM T9's keeping them cool, and all are connected to a Panamax M5400-PM Power Conditioner. The output power of this Living Room home theater system is 2,800 watts R.M.S.
that sounds like a serious theater!!!
Good review 👍🏼 I love my SB2K’s. I’m hoping to get the SB2K pro in the future. I tried the PB2K and the SB4K and ultimately stayed with the SB2K’s. They just sounded better in my room. I’ve always loved how 2 12’s sealed sounded since my car audio install days when I was a big JL Audio fan. I had the 2 12 power wedge which sounded clean AF. I like to describe the sound of these SB2K’s as the same clean sound i got from the JL’s. SVS is hard to beat for the money.
Oh they definitely deliver on the value meter! I'm a big fan of car audio, I'm using a Memphis Mojo12 right now in a ported box, it's actually fairly quick!
Nice channel, new subscriber from Belgium ;-)
Thank you brother. REL HT1205 review is next... in a few days 💪🏼.
@@NemoPropaganda Great! looking forward to the review. 👍
Love your subwoofer reviews, easily the best on youtube.
I originally got the sb1000 pro on demo with plans to go dual but unfortunately i haven't got enough space for two so now i need 1 larger sub, im really tempted to go for the sb3000, the sb2000 looks nice but as the sb3000 is only £300 more im thinking it kind of makes sense to go with the 3000.
Thank's Harry. SVS subs scale very well, all 3 model shave the same general sound but each model up gives you more of it along with more low end extension and maximum output/control at the limit. The 3000 is a fantastic subwoofer but keep in mind if you use the grill the biggest difference is the 3000 uses the metal grill while the 2000 uses the more traditional fabric grill.
@@NemoPropaganda so apart from the grill styling there's not much between the sb2000 pro and sb3000?
@@hclandscapes at lower volumes they sound very similar, at louder volumes of course the 3000 starts to strut its stuff with more low end extension, maximum output, and control at the limit. For low volume listeners like me with small rooms a 2000 is plenty but for larger rooms, those who like it louder, or simply anyone who just wants to be damn sure the sub can grow with them (in the event of other upgrades) the 3000 is an excellent choice.
Thanks for your review! I got a special Black Friday deal where I ordered the SB2000 PRO piano gloss finish for 699 which was the same price as the lower model SB 1000 PRO so I just had to pull the trigger on the value, that's like 30% off! Looking forward to hearing how this bad boy performs in my 12x10x8 foot personal listening area!
That's almost the same size as my room, you won't need anything bigger, that's for sure!
Bought it for like 1200dollars i germany. Sucks...
@@NemoPropagandafor a 24x25x10 room would you recommend the SB 2000 pro, SB 3000, or a pair of either?
@@adamlowe4381 damn bro that's a really big room, is this music only or theater also?
@@NemoPropaganda it’s an open floor plan with the living room opening up to the kitchen so it’s not really a dedicated theater room. Actual seated viewing area is more like 15x15. The sub would be for music and some theater as well.
You got yourself a new subscriber, supurb reviews!
Too bad u don’t have a sb-1000 review 😊
Thank you sir!! I know, i thought about bugging them for a review sample but i feel like at the $499 price it's better for people to just try it out since they have a 45-day in home trial. Usually subs below $500 have to compromise somewhere so it's all about choosing which compromise you want. Most compromise low end output for maximum volume. The SB-1000 I'm guessing is more balanced though.
@@NemoPropaganda i’m sure this channel will grow to one of the best product review channels if you can keep this is up 👍🏼
Hey man thanks for your previous replies on your other video. This is more for my future planning, but I have convinced myself in 6 months - 1 year to upgrade my PSW10 to the 1000 pro. The thing is I'm really split between the PB or SB. The PB here in Canada is 820 and the SB is 700. The PB is quite massive (not really a problem but maybe transporting it when I move to another city could be a problem). My speakers are vanatoo t-0, it's a pretty small 4inch speaker, which is perfect for me, sound darn amazing and I don't want to get anything bigger than this. I just recently moved my PC gaming rig to the basement so the room is bigger (used to be in my room which is much smaller), but I don't think it makes that much difference since I'm using them nearfield anyway (sitting right in front of the computer) so I don't care about it not having enough coverage for the size of the room. In terms of use, I use it a lot for music, youtube, some movie watching (which is amazing as I have an ultrawide monitor), and gaming. Gaming specificalyl, I'm kind of split between using a speaker for single player games and my beyerdynamic headphone for multiplayer. So yeah, PB 1000 pro or SB 1000 pro lol. Kind of leaning towards the SB but I'm just concerned that when I watch netflix series like Dark, stranger things, etc. it won't be as impactful. I'm not a speaker maniac so I won't be getting any speaker any more expensive or bigger than my vanatoo t0. Similarly once I get this SVS 1000, most likely I won't be upgrading to anything higher. Thank so much for your advice!
Personally I would not match up a speaker with 4" drivers to a ported 12" sub. I think the SB would match better but yes of course you will have more output from the PB. Since you have a mixed system SVS app will be super helpful since you can make 3 custom profiles. Between the two if it was me I would pick the SB and just accept that I won't have as much theater rumble but be happy because the sound overall would be more cohesive.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks so much for your input, yeah I'm leaning towards the SB as well. Lol the old 1000 series were 10" but the new ones are 12. On my local store, they have a sale for the old pb1000 for 60 dollars cheaper than the sb1000 pro, but I don't know, I feel like I will regret it later on for buying the older model. My only other local option is the paradigm V8 which is around my budget and of course it is 8".
@@raikozy35 Get the Pro 100% so you can have the cellphone app with the user customizable profiles, that's really helpful for mixed systems like yours.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks so much for the advice, yeah having the ability to control that using an app is definitely a huge plus!.
The "Young Jeezy" reference sold it for me. Luv that damn album lol. And i wasnt sure if this really hits but i know now lol. Thnkx bro
ahahaha hell yes! That intro gets dirty nasty low! Room placement will be key to get it cranking at that frequency though. Start with it in a corner if you can and move away from the corner as needed if the bass is too overpowering :). I had my SB2000 almost half way into the room on the front wall. Basically it was next to my component rack.
@@NemoPropaganda ordered it today via amazon opex box. (650.00)
Im in a small studio apt. Corner placement is possible but ill need the adapter. What about right up front next to TV? Thnkx btw the bro. Blessings to u
@@chriscoleman9068 Thank you Chris, so every room is different personally I actually prefer off to the side of the TV which puts the subwoofer 1/3rd into the room on the front wall. For my room corner placement is too much bass and overloads the room but other guys might love that so you just have to try both and see what you like. And thank you bro may blessings be upon you as well!
hey dude I reed youre coment on Briana's video and glad you enjoy the game and her work ;)
Thank you bro!!
I think one way to look at the 2000 vs 3000 comparison would be to say that the 3000 does everything the 2000 can do, but with less effort. The usual car analogy is the 4-cylinder vs the 6-cylinder. That 4 banger can hang with the 6, but it has to work an order of magnitude harder to do the same thing. As a result, in the case of the subs, you can feel and hear the difference. How well the room loads, less of an edge on certain frequencies, so on and so forth. Great vid!
Kind of but the 2000 can hang with the 3000 to a point, as the frequency drops to sub 30hz the 3000 really starts to be on another level, same at the extremes of volume output and room loading. At lower volume the 3000 is still better with more defined edges and such but those differences are a bit smaller.
@@NemoPropaganda That's an interesting point, as I often listen to music at moderate levels late at night and into the wee hours. As to articulation (or bass note distinction as you call it), does the SB-2000 have an advantage due to being smaller, or are they similar in this respect?
@@LeonFleisherFan i didn't find the 2000-pro having any advantage over the 3000. I think it just comes down to how big is the room and how loud does someone enjoy their music/movies.
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you! I contacted Ed Mullen of SVS, and he says in a small room, and at a playback level below the dynamic limits of the SB-2000 Pro, the two subs will sound almost identical, as the higher dynamic output capability of the SB-3000 Pro would be untapped potential.
@@LeonFleisherFan That is very inline with the experience I had when I reviewed the 2000-pro and I strongly agree with what he's saying.
great channel! At first I was considering the 8in B&W for a small room under 1500 qf. for musical tone (clarity of individual notes) in your previous review 75db listening but movies too. would a svs 1000 or 2000 series be better? thanks again!
I recently reviewed the sb-2000. In terms of output it’s a lot better. The BW is a bit better in sq and nuanced detail. I would take the SB-2000 because personally i will sacrifice minor nuance detail for authority and output in terms of bass. The SB-1000 i have not listened to yet.
Thank you for this excellent review. I was going to buy the SB 2000 Pro until you mentioned that the SB 3000 has a metal grill. I’m watching this review because my cats shredded my Velodyne Servo ( cry not, it was 30 years old). I do disagree with your philosophy of buying the most you can afford. I live in a small condo and an SB 16 Ultra would blow out my windows, tick off my neighbors and be both sonically and aesthetically difficult to integrate into my system. Thanks again for this and your other reviews.
Hey Ralph, glad you found it helpful. Definitely get the 3000, that metal grill is serious robust, kitties won't be able to do anything to it and since it's not fabric they shouldn't be tempted to go anywhere near it except perhaps to sit on top of it :) RIP old velodyne :(
@@NemoPropaganda thank you, will definitely go for the 3000. Keep up the reviews, very helpful.
Had the B&W 610 sub for a month...switched over to the SB 2000 PRO.....the punch you get on the SVS woofer is fast, super crisp and does not muddy the highs and mids on my 603 Towers. Different bass profile - the SB 2000 PRO allows you enjoy the bass impact of a true HT experience while keeping the integrity of my B&W speakers hearing every nuance without the over bass hum . The SVS does not do that. Accuracy and realism in a soundtrack whether it be movies or music is so important in picking out the right woofer to match your LR and C speakers. Totally happy with the switch to the SB 2000 Pro. If you are an audiophile on a budget - do not go Klipsch or DEF Tech....invest in the B&W 600 line and this subwoofer. You’ll get the better HT experience. Trust me. I’ve done 2 months of testing and research on all 3 speakers. This is the perfect marriage for the most critical ear.
I actually love the 6 series subwoofers by B&W, they are tonally excellent for music but are way too low on power for theater use. I think i'd be extremely happy with two 610xp subs but at $1800 each it just doesn't make sense for me.
@@NemoPropaganda I’m not paying $1800 for B&W....grossly overpriced from a B&W fanboy. The reason why I went with the SB 2000 Pro because of your review....I’m glad I did it. Thanks....what a difference it made on my HT set up
Indeed they are very overpriced. I’m so happy i was able to help you come to a decision. That’s the whole reason i started this channel :). The 2000 Pro is a sub i think a lot of people will be happy with, it just does everything well.
@@NemoPropaganda Last winter I upgraded our system and didn't properly do my research. I wound up with a pair of B&W 603's, which are fine, but the ASW 610 just doesn't deliver any kind of kick and is extremely overpriced. I've been mostly looking at the Hsu VT-2 mk5 and the PB-2000, but your comments about sealed are interesting, and I'd also think about the Hsu ULS-15 if I were to go that way. It's going to be a mix, music for me and movies for my wife.
@@robertkrawitz8237 The 610 is good it just doesn't play very loud due to it's limited power :(. For a mixed system I will almost always recommend a sealed subwoofer unless you are looking for "fun" over accuracy in your music then a ported is okay too :). The SB-2000 Pro or REL HT-1205 would be a serious upgrade over the 610.
Get a PB200. Sb subs doesn't get low enough. I switched to ported. You can plug the ports and make it sealed sounding with more extension
different subs for different taste.
Comparing subwoofers only by watts and size as well as price at 7:10 really made me want to quit the video... I thought "
What about linearity, frequencies and uhm.... Quality???"
But than you picked up all the missing parts and made a brilliant video. Thanks.
ahahaha, yeah, it's an old video so my delivery was just okay.
Great review, thanks! Love your channel! Can I ask what your thoughts would be on a comparison between the Rel HT 1003 MKll and the SVS SB 3000. Yup - I know, kind of an odd comparison to ask - kind of apples and oranges - but hey, those are two possible routes I'm considering for an upgrade. My room is 20L x 13W x 9H and on one side, half of it is open out to another room. I'm moderate volume HT listening. I should add that a pet peeve of mine in one-notey, sloppy subs. Thank you!
this video should help: czcams.com/video/rEz03XkcslI/video.htmlsi=qSyv7cRhQO92xINQ
@@NemoPropagandaOkay great! Thanks so much.
Did you check that test track Put On with the Micro3000 before you returned it? Wondering if it was able to handle close to 20Hz at volume in that song? If yes, I realize the 2000Pro will perform better, but how close are they?
At volumes under 85dB I really don't hear much difference between the Micro and the SB3000. I have gotten the Micro to bottom out, but I'm careful not to push it to its limit again. I'm concerned though, how do you know when a subwoofer is bottoming out because its very hard to hear that metal on metal sound masked by the music?
Well, we're all a little different with how sensitive we are to differences in sound. To my ears the difference is fairly noticeable. I've always felt the Micro extension spec was a smidgen exaggerated. The SB2000 pro had a much larger sense of scale, better extension, a sense of effortlessness to it that Micro cannot reproduce and more control & confidence at the limits of extension and output. As far as hearing the distortion or limits of any sub usually they just start to sound crappy, less dynamic, transient response suffers, etc... Those types of things generally tell you the sub is approaching its limits. Of course the slap sound of a VC bottoming out is also a sign but most modern subs have intilligent limiters built in that greatly reduce the likelyhood of that happening.
Thanks! I have a 2 channel system with Magnepan 1.7is that I use for music and home theatre equally. Music taste is classic and alt. rock and jazz. My integrated amp has pre -out. Trying to decide between a pair of the SB2000 pros, SB3000s, Rythmik F12se (s) or the Rel T9is. Looking for the best of both worlds. Love the app on the SVS models as I can switch the pre-sets for either watching movies or listening to music. I understand that the REL and Rythmik models mentioned here are mostly for music. However If I go SVS, would I be losing a lot of that integration, articulation and tonality or can they do it sufficiently? What do you recommend?
I have not paired subwoofers with Magnepans and as they are unique speakers I can't really speak from any personal experience. Since you are in-between a few subs maybe watch this video to help narrow it down: czcams.com/video/rEz03XkcslI/video.html
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you.
Great review! Love your channel. How would you compare the B&W ASW610XP vs the SVS 2000 Pro ? Similar power ratings. 500 v 550. Similar frequency responses. Kinda swaying to the SVS for the tweaking and eq'ing via the app, but I prefer good quality bass over loudness anyday.
actually it's a HUGE difference in power as B&W rate their subwoofers in peak power so the ASW610XP has 500w peak while the SB2000 Pro has 1500 peak. While B&W doesn't publish an RMS figure my guess is it's somewhere around 250w RMS so about half the power of the SVS. Both subs have good quality bass, you'll have more attack, slam, and impact with the SVS and more overall output. I've never heard the 610xp but if it's like the 608 it'll have a little more articulation and bass detail but the SVS has a superior cabinet and a much more modern look. They're kind of opposite subwoofers in my opinion.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks, didn't realise the 500W on the B&W was peak. I'll have to sweet talk my local store to let me demo them both :)
@@RichardNutman That's a great idea as it's a very different sound from each of them.
Great channel! I have the SB3000 for my home and love it but need something lighter for portable use with a JBL MK2 battery operated PA. JBL can hit maybe 110db max. I play heavy electronic synth music and also full symphonic music at 100db+ in the home. Need something less than 40lbs. I don't need the handles of a live sub or the ruggedness just looking for max performance. This is not for gigging, just personal mobil use. As an audiophile I'm looking for the best SQ but need the most slam/attack for loud listening. This is for playing tracks only no live instruments. Here are my choices regardless of price: SVS SBMicro3000, SVS SB2000Pro which I read can hit 121dB at 30Hz, a Live sound sub- Bose Sub1 480 watts, 40Hz low end ,118RMS, or a Studio sub the RCF Ayra Pro 10 goes down to 30Hz, 120dB max, 300watts RMS. Very confused between home Hifi-Studio-or-Live sound subs if they have similar specs??
Live sound subs generally will not extend as low, they accomplish their high SPL output by tuning them to higher bass frequencies, some of the large 18" pro audio subs only extend down to about 40hz for example. Your weight limit and SPL requirement make your goal a bit of a challenge but I believe the SB1000 Pro is probably the smallest & lightest sub that can do over 110dB at 30hz but I'm guessing you already saw that and felt better safe to go with the 2000 Pro so you're not stressing it as much and to that I agree. The RSL Speedwoofer 10S may be another candidate also, I'd email them and ask about the SPL capability just to be sure but I'd imagine it would have not problem playing that loud and do it rather easily.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks, I now know Live subs are tuned differently. Still don't understand the difference between a Studio sub and a home Hifi sub besides studio subs use XLR compared to RCA . RCF has a sub called the Ayra Pro 10. 300watts rms/600peak, 10", 30Hz, 120dB max for $450. Sounds like a bargain! Usually studio subs are more expensive - check out Focal, Adam or Genelec subs.
The SVS SB2000 has similar specs except the amp power of the SVS SB2000 is 550watts/1,500peak,19Hz,121dB max at 30Hz. SVS has a 12" woofer. Both subs similar size/weight. SB2000 $900 ! What's the difference for double the price?? Happy New Year- gear hunting 2022!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz the difference is the extension, a sub falling off at 30hz would never be considered by most home theater enthusiasts and most people don't want a proaudio looking sub in their living room so looks are a difference also.
Great review, really tempted by the SB2000 PRO - it's more than i want to pay for a xub, but I keep telling myself "you only live once...".
ahahaha dangerous words, i tell myself that all the time. If $699 is more in your budget the REL HT1205 is just as good in regards to output, is a bit better with tonal distinction but you'll give up the cell phone app and optional glossy finish but that saves you $200.
@@NemoPropaganda The 2000 PRO is double the price of what I was considering www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/XXLS400DF.htm
I need to justify that extra cost, especially as I want to change my receiver too!
@@willo300 I'm not familiar with that subwoofer unfortunately but if you can give up having the cellphone app of the SB-2000pro the REL HT1205 is better in a few ways mainly speed, bass note distinction, and low end extension. It's not a huge difference as these are both great subwoofers but the REL does have the edge which surprised the hell out of me. The one you linked to seems to have good specs also though. Try and hear the REL if there is a dealer in your area, i think that will help "justify" the cost :)
Made a great compromise, got a Monoprice monolith thx 10" at a discounted price. Couldn't be happier 😁
@@willo300 Nice! A discounted price always helps me enjoy the gear more :D. I've heard they're good subs, I'm glad you're enjoying it.
My main issue is more between the sealed and ported version. 2000 is about the right size for me. But ported versus sealed? That's more up in the air. And the PB-3000 has tuning for running in sealed mode. And then there's the size. My SB-1000 is tiny, and I really dig it.
So really, I'm pretty much down to selling my SB-1000 and getting a 2000 pro model, but not sure which. I'm guessing I'll be OK with the sealed version, I do enjoy movies, but I'm no where near to having a home theater setup anyway. Small tiny cube, maybe a second one later, sounds good to me.
Ported is going to have way more output and will have less of a leading edge to it's sound, this leads to what a lot of people describe as "slow" or "sloppy" sounding bass. Everyone has their preference though, if you've never had a ported subwoofer in your room I'd say try it and see how you like it. The low end is significantly stronger than an equivalent sealed model. The size of course is another consideration. If you're coming from an SB-1000 the reality is anything you're considering is an upgrade so I think you'll be happy no matter what :)
Good honest review. Like ur frank style. Question on the speaker level input on the 1000pro. Would that have better response/speed than the 2000pro?
I have a 2500cft room volume and think the 2x 2000pro would be good. But would 2x1000pro be good enough w speaker level input from an anthem av70?
Assuming the sealed models
Speaker level inputs are an inferior setup solution and should not be used unless you're in one of two circumstances: 1. It is your only option or 2. You have a REL subwoofer.
@@NemoPropaganda i c. that’s the comparison
HT1205 vs svs 2000pro
Both 12” drivers (tie)
500w vs 550w (svs)
22 hz vs 19-240 Hz (svs)
38lbs vs 38.6 lbs (tie)
Line level input vs rca (rel)
No app vs mobile app (svs)
So it ultimately boils down to if you are system is predominantly for music or a balanced movie/music.
I think I answered my own question about sticking w svs. Now the question is should I spend the extra money to go w 2xsvs sb3000 or stick with 2x sb2000pro and spend the savings on another part of the HT setup
Choice choices
@@xtctaz Line level is the same as RCA, if you mean high-level inputs neither sub has that nor does it matter as it's generally an inferior option. Both subs are great, they just sound a little different which you can see here: czcams.com/video/rEz03XkcslI/video.html. To answer your questions I would keep the SB-2000 pro pair you have and use the money for something else as the jump to SB-3000 isn't that big, you'll get more at the extremes but unless you are maxing out what you currently have I'd spend the money elsewhere or save towards a more insane subwoofer setup like dual SB16 or dual F18.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks a bunch. Can use 800 bucks I’d save going up to dual 3000 on funding part of a new amp :)
u should get a rel and compare it with this side by side. heard a lot of comment on rel about their tight speed and power. but how is it different to each other?...looking forward for you review on it.
I will in like 2-3 weeks. I have a REL being loaned to me from a friend :) it is certainly much tighter but it’s also a different sound all together compared to SVS and much more expensive. Like a SB3000 is 800w at $999 while that much power from REL is available in the S/812 that is a $3000 subwoofer so triple the price.
Sadly it is little more expensive here compared to US prices. I’m debating between this and Klipsch 12” or 15” to use with Klipsch Fives. I like fact that SVS is a lot more compact in size and you have the phone app to control it.
most klipsch subs are ported so they will be larger for sure :)
Great review. Have you tried the Rel t7i? I’m actually contemplating which one to buy for my main speakers (Kef ls50 wireless ii)
I have not heard the T7i but i own the REL HT1205, from what i understand the T7i will sound more like it's reinforcing your speakers and have great detail while the SVS will do what most subwoofers do, deliver tons of bass and pressurize the room. If you use your system more for music grab the rel, if you use it more for theater grab the SVS, both are great, just different.
@@NemoPropaganda ohhh i see. Thanks for enlightening me. But these Rel are out since 2016. I don’t wanna buy something then next year they will do a refresh on the product haha. Unlike the SVS just came out this year. But as you have said Rel is better for music. I wanna aim more at music. But HT occasionally.
I actually have the Klipsch R100sw, do you think I should just keep it? And this sub is already
enough? Thanks for replying.
@@jetlagfrias Hey Jett, it depends on if you're happy or not with your current subwoofer. Advertising has 1 goal, to steal all your money lol. So my advice is to forget about it for the next 2 weeks. If in 2 weeks you still want the REL T7i then get it, but if you are happy with what you have, who cares, keep what you have my brother. You can always spend more money and get better stuff but you will never be happy if you're always upgrading. I hope this helps and sorry if it's not a direct answer for the question.
@@NemoPropaganda actually I’m blown away on your answer! you got a big point out there. I will try that 2 week period that you just advised me! More power to your channel. Subscribed! And notification button is on!
@@jetlagfrias Hey Jett, I'm happy that resonated with you :) Part of this hobby for me is managing the obsession and keeping it fun.
DALI SUB K-14 F
Love to see you try it
I don't think thats sold in USA.
Hi! How would you compare the SVS SB-2000 PRO with the Velodyne Impact MK2 12 or Sunfire XTED12? I am in doubt between these subs. I prefer Velodyne but I do not know how far the SVS and Sunfire are from the Velodyne. If they are in front, behind and how distant. Thanks for your comment! Luiz.
Velodyne is trash now, the Impact 12 mk2 only has 175w RMS which is a garbage power rating for a 12" subwoofer at that price. Sunfire is a stupid design in my opinion and for home theater only where space is severely limited. The SVS SB-2000 pro is the only one of the 3 I would consider as it will sound better and still have tons of output.
Hello Nemo,
I'm in the market for a new subwoofer. I have small home theater room ,mainly used for movies. I currently have a Klipsch ported sub. I went to a local REL dealer in my area last week and man, I heard the REL HT/1508 and HT/1205 and I was impressed how tight the bass was. It has serious fast better bass that blend well that I could not hear before, especially like gun shots. The Klipsch sub has just rumble effect bass in my opinion now. Unfortunately, there is no close SVS dealer to me, so I can't experience the SVS subs and can't tell the difference between SVS SB2000 pro and the REL HT/1205 or HT/1508. Since you heard both of these, In your opinion which is better for 80% Home theater use, and 20% music use. Thank you.
Hi M7, I made a video about that: czcams.com/video/rEz03XkcslI/video.html
Do you have any experience with the SVS wireless module? Have SB3000s in 3 rooms and love them, but I'm looking at the sb2000 for a formal area and will need to use the wireless module. Cross shopping the RSL 10 that has wireless received built in.
not the SVS one specifically but I made a video about wireless adapters, you can see it here: czcams.com/video/KtHJYdxNmVI/video.htmlsi=fgSdp3oZEWomNKmc
Only thing I'd add in your reviews especially in comparison reviews like this is intended use. You say why not upgrade to the better model? Give a recommendation on whether the bigger model would be better for 2 channel computer desk set up or if the smaller model would be more suitable etc. That's the reason why I could see people debating which model they should get. In other words, would the better model be too good for its own good depending if you're too close?
Hi Austin my channel is for 2.1 stereo reviews. I don't do desktop reviews, i don't even have a desktop system, hell i don't even have a desk in my home so i cannot give such a recommendation. I think it's clear by my review format that everything i say is in the context of a 2 or 2.1 or even 2.2 channel stereo system and that it's generally understood that everything in a desktop environment is scaled down so there is no need for me to mention that. I understand everyone utilizes the space available to them and for many people that's a desktop only but i don't have the experience to comment on that. If you're big into desktop setups i would check out zeos channel zreviews, he often talks about desktop or soundnews is another great channel that focuses more on desktop.
Have u ever reviewed the JL audio d110? If so, how do you think 2000 pro stacks up against it?
Last question: would u recommend mixing two diff subs in a Room? Eg svs 2000 pro and JL audio. D110
I have not heard the D110. Mmmmm mixing two subs, okay so most people would say NO DON"T DO IT!! And I would say that's generally true. But, if the two subs have a similar enough sound it can be done. For example while they are different I did briefly and successfully use the Rythmik L12 and REL HT1205 together as pairs. Both subs integrate well and have excellent SQ so they played well together. The same was true when I used a pair of REL T5i together with the Rythmik F12SE, those 3 subs played well together also. I would generally recommend people use matching subs where possible otherwise it's a bit of a dice roll.
Definitely good questions! I've got the D110 on my short list as well. The acoustic data shows a slight dip at 55hz, which is what I dislike about my current SVS, compared to Rythmik and REL. However, hearing is believing, vs stats on paper. I use JL in my cars (while a different animal all together), I'm familiar with the brand and love it. When I bought my Dynaudio Excite towers I demoed them with a JL Fathom sub, which IIRC, still was the best thing I've ever heard (but way over my budget, hence the Dominion interest). My system is 50/50 HT/Music so I wish the Dominion came in a 12".
@@NemoPropaganda oooh I could see the Rythmik and REL playing well on a dual setup. The Rythmik with the slight edge in depth and upper mid smoothness, and the REL with the edge in that extra (yet with articulately refined) slam in the 50-60hz. .
What was the song name you like using as a demo. Great review!!! Thanks
I use a few different ones but Put On by Jeezy is my go to in order to make sure I've got my phase, crossover, & levels right.
I wish so much you would review the PB 2000 pro
I reviewed the PB1000 Pro and I used to own the PC2000 so I already know what it sounds like. Just look at my PB1000 Pro video and thats how the PB2000 sounds just louder :)
Since you own also the SB3000, I have a question as to which would be better, a single SB3000 or a dual setup SB200 Pro?
The prices here in Australia are about 70% higher. If I could get then at US prices, I would seriously be thinking about SB3000, so my possible alternative SB2000 Pro.
Easy choice brother. Dual SB-2000 pro will strongly outperform a single SB3000.
Got klipsh rp600m pair for under 300. Looking at the iotavx intergrated...not sure it will pair well with the klipsh rp600m but... it has the proper price point to where ill have the extra cash for a sub like this. Not sure if I should wait till I can afford better gear but I feel like I need to jump on one of these now before they are gone. Does it seem silly to have the sub be the most expensive part of your system? I dont even know if all 3 will work well together. I just know my interests in everything is for music. Klipsch seems best for home theater. Just couldn't pass up the deal on the rp600s. Can I ask your thoughts?
Hey Backrack01, having a good subwoofer is never a bad thing but if you're looking to save some cash and don't mind losing the cellphone app the REL 1205 is a strong competitor in the 500w 12" category and does some things a little better, if you want to save even more cash the smaller HT 1003 might be right up your alley and should pair nicely to the RP600M. A system should be well matched and have great synergy but that can become an expensive quest. The iotaVX is a great amp and it has tone controls so you can always cater the sound a bit if it's not a perfect match. If i had the 600m I'd have no problem pairing it with the IotaVX and REL 1003, that's a great budget system in my opinion :)
I hope SVS starts to make black matte finish soon. I love there stuff already, but it just doesn't fit my room.
You mean like a painted one? They do have the woodgrain vinyl which is their current non-reflective option :)
@@NemoPropaganda yea they have that, but that's not a matte black finish either.
Makes me wonder if you could use something like a Matte Black PlastiDip on the gloss surface so if you didn’t like it you could remove it later fairly safely?
new to your channel, good stuff. I am looking at JL, Rel and SVS, please I don't know what I want ro should have; sealed, ported, passive radiator, IDK, what's the difference please? My room is 36' x 30', I want what is needed, even if I have to spend a bit more. Power is an NAD M33 with B&W 804D speakers. Thoughts please? Great review.
Hi friend, welcome. Before i answer can you please tell me is this for music, movies or a mix of both? If it’s a mix what percentage for each and how tall is your ceiling?
@@NemoPropaganda sorry, 50% TV, netflix, 50 music. 36' x 30' w/12' ceilings. Thank you for the quick reply.
@@steve121758 God bless, that's a proper sized room you have there. All 3 brands make fantastic subwoofers but JL has not been updated in awhile and is rather expensive so lets kick them out of the party and invite Rythmik to the table. In a mixed system it's better to stick with a sealed subwoofer. So at the high end you can go with Dual REL S/812, Carbon Specials, or 212SX. If that's too expensive some lower cost options would be a pair of SVS SB16, a pair of REL Predator HT 1508, or a pair of Rythmik G22 or F18. If you have anymore questions shoot me an email at nemopropaganda@gmail.com
I'm leaning to the sb-3000 to replace my ancient M&K V-2B, the phone app seals the deal!
Not too many subs around this price range have a cell phone app so that really does make SVS an easy choice for you.
OCD is a family trait in my fam. I believe dad instilled it willing or not. Once learned it's not necessarily wrong. But I'd rather have my paper towels torn off evenly. Haha
if my paper towel rips off in a weird way I literally throw it in the trash and try again.
and by the way if you use auxiliary out from any old ass receiver and use an active crossover like a DBX 223 xs you can use any subwoofer
I'm not a huge fan of adding links in the chain so I'll never really talk about gear like that but it is cool that it exists as stuff like that or MiniDSP, high to low converters, etc... are a life saver for the people that really need them.
From my experience the SB 2000 is OK it’s a nice speaker
The best bang for your dollar if you want something that’s going to punch you in the face kick you in the gut go with the SB 4000 if you want IMPAC explosions
I have two of the 2000s and they are nice but the SB 4000 is the cream of the crop I ended up going with two of the SB 4000 they are incredible I never thought that sealed subwoofers sounded so good to me better than the port it subwoofers
of course bro, SB4000 is double the price :)
First of all Thank you Thank you for all your reviews! Amazing......
I am in Italy where the SVS SB 2000 pro costs 1100 euro and the REL T9X costs 1350.
Room is medium/large size and can not decide between them .... Would like more REL for the music usage but the app for the setting on the SVS is bloody useful I guess....
What would you do ? Help! Help!! Thank youuuuuuu
only one commented is needed please.
Awesome review bro .. i just got the sb 2000 pro primarily for music and i am going dual soon .. should i stick with dual sb 2000 pro or go with dual sb 3000 ?
Depends how big your room is and how loud you like it. the 2000 and 3000 have a very similar sound so the real difference is output and extension at the limits.
Thanks for the reply oh and i also just subscribed to your channel :) my room is around 20×20 feet.. will the bass sound different more cleaner on the sb 3000 than that of the sb 2000 pro ? I dont crank it up much maximum -15db. Its more of a better overall sound quality rather than power i am after
@@BrandonAttarDbran since you're shopping within the same brand I would just ask SVS but in my experience the 2000 pro and 3000 are equal in terms of SQ unless you are pushing the 2000-pro beyond it's limits.
Thanks bro :)
@@BrandonAttarDbran I reached out to SVS with this question in the past as well. They recommended the SB-2000 Pro for my mid size living room for mixed music/theater use, and to eventually go dual (I appreciated them not trying to upsell me just cause they can). I haven't actually upgraded my Theater sub yet, which is the old school predecessor to the SB-2000, so I can't comment on what I bought and how it worked out.
Great video ty! Can the SB 2000 or 3000 be plugged into my JBL Boombox’s Aux port to play in sync or was that classified under your remark about needing to go with the 1000? Ty!
if your aux port is a 3.5mm output and you use a 3.5mm to RCA adapter then yes it will work but this is extremely important: it must be an output and volume of the sub may or may not adjust with volume of the boombox but if you adjust the volume from your phone then it might adjust all together.
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you! Excited to test the SVS SB 3000 in my DIY camper box van conversion with the JBL Boombox 2. I've got full 120v and 240v electrics so I'm opting to try out some home theatre equipment vs pure car audio. Thanks again for the quick response!
@@thirdeyesamuel886 sounds fun! I hope you have a blast but if it's going to be mobile wouldn't you want a smaller sub for all the various reasons like less power draw, lighter weight, easier to move around, etc...
@@NemoPropaganda Excellent reasons to go smaller indeed! However this is no ordinary van =D. I've built in a 900W Solar Array with an 8kWh Nissan Leaf electric vehicle battery system with a 3kW (5kW Peak for 10 min) Victron Inverter. This thing runs a 240V Minisplit A/C all day. I really want the "mini/portable festival vibes" so I am trying to find the biggest sub I can practically fit under our bed storage area along with our other adventure gear. The SVS SB 3000 seems to fit the bill. I bought it with the intention of testing it and returning it for another if it doesn't work out. The box van has a 1 piece aerodynamic fiberglass box on the back of it and it has some really interesting resonance already with our JBL Boombox 2 so I am excited to see how much it can take. One of our ideal situations will be to open up our vans commercial roll up door in the back and play music from there, it might really help to amplify the sound and give it some direction, which would be great! Anyway, I appreciate your time to follow up so I figured I'd break things down more. You could see some exterior shots of our van @thirdeyesamuel on IG. The IG is mostly used for business but there are some photos up there. Enjoy the day!
@@thirdeyesamuel886 you're a madman and I like it!!!! Your IG has some really awesome pics, your dog is also good boy :D
i love your reviews it would be great if you could compare cost/value of some of the big names like JL and SVS vs some not so well known names like PSA,Monolith and Seaton Sound there is much to be gained by people looking to buy a sub for the first time or who want to upgrade if you do. maybe also cover the value of one $5000 subwoofer from a big name vs several cheaper high end subwoofers from the brands mentioned this is the information that is going to help people get the best sound for the dollar perhaps you could suggest how one might flatten the bass curve by moving or adding subwoofers ( 2 monolith 12s vs one svs13 close to the same price )
I totally would but that would require me to spend a lot of cash :(... I could see someone doing that but it won't be me for a few reasons. My get down is essentially to satisfy my own curiosity and share the results. Personally I'm not really curious how the monolith or JL sound. lastly $5000 subwoofers are generally HUGE, that's just not something I'm interested in nor could my little room accommodate that. If one day this channel is 10x the size and their is a patreon fund and the people want to see it then I'll definitely do it for the people but as long as I'm putting up my own dollars I'm just gonna do the stuff I'm curious about. My next curiosity is in finding the tightest most accurate sounding ported subwoofer, might look at the Rythmik FVX12.
@@NemoPropaganda ok i guess being a little more specific will help. here is a question for you then what do you think would sound better? the JL fathom f113 at $5000 possibly the best 13 inch subwoofer with the smallest foot print available or 4 svs sb3000s for less money and why? The answer is at the heart off the point i am attempting to make here
@@NemoPropaganda my vote for the ported sub would be my brothers mcintosh ps112 very fast very musical my brother is using it with his reference 3a decapo i speakers
@@rodirish7787 That's an easy one. The 4x SVS SB-3000 will sound better than a single JL Fathom. JL and SVS have a similar(ish) sound signature so I would expect similar levels of detail and articulation but with 4x sb-3000 you're talking 4x the surface area, 4x the motor force, 3 times the wattage, etc... I would even expect 2 SB-3000 to outperform a single Fathom 113. But not everyone wants 4 subwoofers, some people have brand preferences too. A rolex tells time just as well as a seiko but i don't have a seiko. I get your point, I grew up very poor, I understand value of course and you're not the first person to bring this up. What I don't understand is why people keep asking questions like this. Perhaps I somehow come across a bit posh, I don't know, I may have a few extra dollars these days but that is a very recent turn of events. Just a few years ago my entire system was $400 total and that's all I could afford.
@@rodirish7787 is that badboy still in production? I think the next one might be the RSL Speedwoofer.
Thank you for the great video. Please give me your opinion. I am about to place and order for one of the SVS subs but cannot make up my mind. I have a 5mx5mx3m ceiling room...mostly listen to music but a movie here and there. I want deep low bass that I can feel. I am currently looking at the PB1000Pro or the SB2000Pro. I am not too sure if I should go for ported 1000pro or sealed 2000pro? Your opinion will be greatly appreciated.
that's a tough call, the PB1000 is larger and will offer up more output while the SB2000 is smaller and will have less output but a tigther sound. Both subs will give you deep & full bass, since it's a mostly music system I suggest a pair of SB1000 Pro if you can :). If not then the single SB2000 Pro.
@@NemoPropaganda thank you... I have now decided to spend a bit a more... So choices now are between SB2000PRO AND PB2000PRO... Leaning towards PB. What do you think?
@@psynanotic-tunez5999 Id still recommend a pair of SB1000 Pro.
Im sorry but .. I was the 667 like.. I typically don't like to change that number .. but .. I wanted to support =)
Ahahahahaha I appreciate that my dude!
I was wondering if I should switch to 2 of these... Right now I am running 2 Dali E12F that are ported and they sometimes sound too "boomy" for the music I am listening to (Death Metal with really fast attacking double bass drums). Will a sealed cabinet be better for this? I used to have 1x B&W aswxp but that was not enough as I enjoy ripping my guts out with the bass drums. Will 2 of these subwoofers help me achieve a crisp controlled punch(es) better than ported subs (170w RMS)?? Interesting channel btw.
Hey Nazty, yes! You are totally on the right track. You're searching for more of that tactile bass that has a strong leading edge that kind of hits you harder. Ported subs are great for rumble but rarely have that tactile bass you're talking about. A pair of SB2000 will accomplish this and if you have a little more budget a pair of JL Audio D110 will give you even more of that and play even faster.
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you for the informative reply! The JL Audio looks nice...But I have always prefered 12" woofers so I will go for the SVS SB 2000 pro's I think. I am running these with a pair of Dali Opticon 8's with 2x8" in each so people always wonder why those are not enough, but as I said I like gut wrenching bass.
@@naztyboi1666 the SVS should serve you well bro, we have a free discord, links in newer vids if you want to join and keep us up to date with how it goes.
Say bro do you thinks the Rel Ti9 and this sub would be ok to combine? I'm looking at the Rel more for Music and the Svs for movies
Sounds like you want a Rythmik F12. REL is all the way on the SQ side, SVS is all the way on the SPL side. That's not to say REL has not SPL or SVS has no SQ just each brand does their thing really well, total opposites. Rythmik is mostly on the SQ side but offers up more output for the money so its a pretty good inbetween for people stuck between REL and SVS. To answer your question though I would not mix an SQ sub with an SPL sub. I would mix different brand subs but they both have to be SQ or they both have to be SPL.
@@NemoPropaganda do the predator give that bass I want?
@@ele76119 oh yeah, totally forgot about that one, the Predator is also a really good mix of SQ and SPL also. I own the smaller HT1205 and I like it a lot.
I just picked up monitor audio silver 500 towers, what subwoofer would be a good to fit with my towers? I run mostly 2channel stereo. Appreciate your video. Thx
What's your budget for a subwoofer? Are you considering a pair or just 1?
@@NemoPropaganda one preferred. 1500 or less.
@@kyleturner7627 If you are happy with the extension that you have and simply want a fuller sound the REL T9i would be great for that. If you're looking for more extension below the speakers 30hz cutoff consider the Rythmik F12SE or The REL HT1205.
Thanks so much for your reviews! Really love them 🙌🏼
It would mean a lot if you could give your opinion between three subs (I could finally narrow it down to 3!) that I want to buy.
This one, the SB-3000 or the JL D-110. SB2000 is cheaper and the other 2 are roughly the same price in my country.
I will use it mainly for music, although I watch movies on it too, I have a large living room with 4800 cu feet but the listening area is around 1100 cu feet (if that matters).
I was told the JL is better quality for stereo audio by the seller (not sure if this is true) But I’m afraid it is very small for the room, hence the indecision.
What would you decide? I understand this is little data but would help me a lot just to have your opinion!
Thank you, all the best with your excellent product reviews!
Hey brother, unfortunately it's been years since I've listened to a JL Audio subwoofer so I can't really comment. It's hard to know what will be and what won't be "enough bass" for the room. Music isn't too demanding of subs but movies are very demanding so if you want to make sure you have enough bass for both the SB3000 is an easy recommendation but it's impossible to know if the SB2000 will also be good enough for the space. Subwoofers and rooms can be very challenging and it's almost impossible to know the outcome until you try.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks so much for the reply! I think I had my mind made for the 3000 already and you definitely made that clearer 🙌🏼 thanks for taking the time to reply. All the best to you and the channel!
@@vamp366 glad i could help :)
Hey Nemo do you think this sub will be overkill in a 2.1 setup with Kef q150s?
Hey Jam, yes it will be a bit overkill, I would say the SB-1000 Pro is more of a match for what the Q150 are capable of unless your room is big.
@@NemoPropaganda dude thanks a ton for the reply! I think I'll go that route then and save some money too 🤘🏻
@@mtjm indeed, always remember for 2 ch music there is such a thing as "too much subwoofer" but for theater there is no such thing lol but since this is 2ch you can definately save some bucks and get the right size opposed to extra headroom you'll never use.
I just bought a SB-2000 here in brazil, here you pay for dual pb 16 but get a SB-2000 lol. Hope it arrive soon =). Have a 630 cubic feet room.
oh man, is it because of taxes? I'm sorry to hear that. Are there any Brazillian audio companies you can buy from instead?
@@NemoPropaganda No brazilian audio companies, all of this components are imported, the total amount of taxes are near 50% for that kind of product. But the main problem is that our currency is very depreciated due to bad economic decisions (1 dollar = 5,7 reais), the average salary is about 2k reais (our currency), and one pb-16 ultra is about 20-25k. Not only SVS, but also klipsch, marantz, denon etc. Also there is no monolith, HSU or rythmik in here, just SVS.
@@Joao_Humberto oh man I'm sorry to hear that. The sb2000 is a really good sub, i think you'll be very happy with it.
@@NemoPropaganda Yeah, in your personal opinion upgrading to a larger and more powerful sub would make a significative difference in a room so small as mine or it would be total overkill? As i said, it's around 630 cubic feet.
@@Joao_Humberto I don't think it will be overkill. Overall output is only one factor of a more powerful sub. More powerful subs often times also have larger drivers, bigger, magnets, better cabinets, etc... That all leads to more authority, extension, and sound quality. For example in my car i have a competition subwoofer that's capable of 3000w RMS which is totally overkill but the result is that it's transient speed is amazing, my guess is the motor force is so great that it can easily control the cones movement.
From where I live, I could almost get 2 SB-2000 Pros for the price of a Rel T9/X. I'm an 80% Music - 20% Movie user and haven't really entertained subwoofers until only recently, and your channel has been really helpful for me.
Given the two options above, which one would you recommend? I have a 5.7-meter front wall, if that helps. Current setup are dual (and cheap) Polk HTS-12s, which I got to try to experiment if the dual sub thing is going to improve the listening experience--and they did.
Hi Sleeper, I get the REL or SVS question a lot so I made a video about that you can find here: czcams.com/video/rEz03XkcslI/video.html it should help answer the question for your :). If you your room is not too large and you don't listen too loud the SB1000 Pro is also really awesome and I made a review for that too that you can see here: czcams.com/video/o6jaF-J3P7Y/video.html
@@NemoPropaganda This is great, thanks! Gave you a sub for your quality content
@@sleeper1023 hell yeah brother, welcome aboard! 💪🏼
The REL T/7i and T/9i are great for music
that's what i keep hearing but i have yet to experience them, I've only heard their top model the No. 25. Maybe one day I'll try one out...
RELS are gone by 35 hz. I love my pair of Emotiva S8's nemo basically sold me a few months ago, and they hit yet are very nuanced and have the same connections as a REL. I'd love to see a shootout.
I’ve always wondered how well those REL’s perform sub 35hz, glad you’re enjoying the S8’s!!
@Mr Do the few recording studios I've been to in the LA & Hollywood have all used custom solutions for bass built around an array of Focal or TAD 15" drivers in custom enclosures. I doubt many recording studios have single free standing sub and if they do it's most likely the No. 25, SVS doesn't have a subwoofer that expensive so it's understandable that it's not going to be found in a recording studio, it's like saying Zonda uses AMG engines not Honda engines, well yes, Honda doesn't have a V12 engine to use as a baseline, that doesn't mean that Honda can't make one just as good or that their lower entries aren't excellent for the price they command. The REL No. 25 is nearly 4x the price of the SVS SB-16, that's huge difference brother and we must consider that when making such comparative statements. Additionally recording studios are built around accuracy while most home listening environments are built around pleasure, those ultra warm tones people love so much are far from accurate. I understand what you're saying and I'm sure REL is excellent in many ways, but context is king.
@Mr Do Oh wow! I didn't know they were that dominant, that is actually a very serious market share for M&K, sadly I've not had the pleasure of listening to their products. It does make me wonder if it speaks to the quality and performance or the studios desire for consistency from studio to studio. I'm guessing it's a bit of both as the studios I've seen it's very clear they spare no expense and only want the best. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I usually just get guys saying this or that with no real experience behind their opinions and statements so it's very refreshing to hear from someone that actually has experienced with these topics and is speaking from experience, thank you for that!
Hello Nemo, i hope you are fine and thanks for your interesting review.
I would like to have your advices concerning my subwoofer selection.
My set up:
Speakers: Dynaudio special forty
AMP: Advance paris Myconnect 150
My usage: Mostly music but i will use it also for movies and video games but the priority is really the music support as main usage.
My room is : 24m square meter (6x4) / 72m cube meter (6x4x3). The distance between the listeners and the speakers / subwoofer is 2m50. This room is opened to another 20 square meter
I'm hesitating between SVS SB-2000 pro or SVS SB-1000 pro according my room size. What do you think?
According my usage and my set up do you advice another subwoofer brand / model?
Hi Theo, the cool thing about SVS is they are very popular so you should be able to demo one but I think for your room size either one should be okay but SB2000 will be the safe option as it will have more power for theater. As far as other sub brands & models there are many 12" options around this price but I mostly recommend SB1000 pro, SB2000 pro, Arendal 1961 1S, REL HT1205, or Rythmik L12 (usa only).
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks a lot for your job and reviews
Any experience with HSU Research's 15" sealed sub? Priced similarly to the sb 2000 pro, and I've seen it reviewed favorably. I'm going sealed to keep my wife happy, and I want as much clean subterranean bass as possible out of a small box!
The only ported sub I've looked at is the RSL speedwoofer because of its diminutive stature (for a vented enclosure).
Hi Luke, I've not heard the Hsu and my email to them regarding a sample went unanswered so I'm not sure I'll have one here which is a shame because like you i was very curious about it. On paper it looks perfect but impressions from real world owners has been mixed. On the other hand RSL will be sending me a speedwoofer around January and I currently have the Rythmik L12 here on loan from a friend. If you've seen my review of the B&W ASW608 (i loved it) the Rythmik L12 is like a larger more powerful version and among the smallest 12" sealed subwoofers i have come across. At reasonable listening volumes it's SQ is very impressive and low end ouput is among the best I've heard for it's size/price if you set it to HT mode. If Rythmik is an option for you it's priced well too! It's not as pretty as the SVS SB2000 nor as tight as the REL 1205 but it's cheaper than both and damn good in it's own right.
oh yes, the REL HT 1003 is also a nice small option you might like!
@@NemoPropaganda thank you so much for taking time to make some informed recommendations for me! Much appreciated!!!
Wondering if one SB3000 would help serve the need for not having two SB2000 Pro’s?
While the SB3000 will play louder than a single SB2000 Pro I don't think it will have the sense of scale as dual SB2000 Pro. If you want to replace your pair of SB2000 Pro I think at minimum you'd want something larger like a single PB2000 Pro or PB3000.
hi , sorry may I ask with below specs from ultra 1000 , is it worth to upgrade to sb 2000 pro ? I'm too old to study review and hope you forgive my lazy, many thanks
1000 ultra specs
Amplifier: 2400 watts Dynamic / 1200 watts RMS.
Tiny cabinet dimensions.
An intuitive front panel interactive display.
One button 7-band room bass correction.
DSP digital control.
Full feature remote control.
4 customized listening more presets.
Night-mode.
If you mean Velodyne SPL-1000 Ultra, I'm not sure since I've never heard it but it's probably good enough to keep unless there is something about it you don't like.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks 😊
Wish you can review magnepan some day, preferred 1.7i.
I think my room is too small (10x12ft) or i totally would.
LRS might fit the room. I think they offer free 60 days trail? Not sure what the deal is, seldom got fplks talk about it. Maybe because they exist too long? Lol.
Steve Guttenberg said even the LRS need some space. :(
@@NemoPropaganda My room is (15x14ft), I also have the Buchardt S400 :-)
That’s a good size room, you’re lucky!! The S400 probably sound better in your room than mind!
Hi there! Didn't knew you tested these bad boys 2!
I still think I lean towards the Arendal 1961 1s 2x. But they don't have an app.
My room is 4.5m x 9,4m x 2.8m with open kitchen. I'm about 4 meters away from the subs.
Which one do you think will be better for me?
Movies/music is 70/30 or 60/40.
I like to get 2 subs to get a more even sound with the bass.
I like it sealed because I don't have space for huge subs.
The Arendal 1961 1s or is the Arendal 1723 1s so much better?
Or should I go for the SVS SB3000 pro?
Thanks in advanced and keep up the good work!
The 1723 1S is awesome. If budget allows definitely grab a pair. If not the 1961 is also great and a slight step up from the sb2000 pro in my opinion.
@@NemoPropaganda thnx for the fast respond.
And last question is it one time adjustment or is the app so much easier and do you think it is a must?
I have a Denon 4500h receiver.
I could change my settings at the receiver as well.
Have a nice weekend buddy!
@@Kwarkiemodo i don’t think the app should be a big part of the decision. It’s cool for sure but it’s not required.
Did you say that in a couple weeks they will be releasing a Piano white finish, I called the SVS sales team and they said they don’t know anything yet, How reliable is your source because I’ve been looking for them to make white the last couple years out of the 2000 series or 3000 series
Source is super reliable my bro in fact I even have the marketing pictures on my computer as I was going to use them in my review but decided not to. The white is coming 100% on the SB2000 Pro model. The 3000 is another story and i would guess may not happen.
Nemo Propaganda Reviews ok thanks
3000 not. I am also interested in white 3000 and sent mail to SVS. They answered a couple,of weeks ago that at the moment the white color for 3.000 is not option neither any info when will be. Said
ELAC uses the mic in your phone (after calibration) to make adjustments.
Have you tried it? I'm curious how well it works.
@@NemoPropaganda No, I’m about to upgrade from a Polk PSW-505 and am going back and forth between SVS and ELAC. I don’t have a functioning computer, so using REW to dial in the 1000/2000 is out of the question. I would have to adjust those by ear. The ELAC system is intriguing, but I don’t think they perform quite as well.
@@davethestalker Ah I see, well personally I don't use REW and just filmed a video on how I setup subwoofers so maybe this will help you feel more comfortable with SVS czcams.com/video/aZbzvanu3vA/video.html I wouldn't buy a sub based on auto calibration, that's more of an "oh that's cool" situation and not a make it or break it option. The SVS 1000/2000 are fantastic and SVS themselves are always more than happy to chat on the phone to help you get it dialed in. Elac makes some great products also but I have not heard their subwoofers so I can't comment beyond that :).
The OCD thing made me sub to your channel..
Welcome aboard the train my fellow :D
How does it compare to the Rel HT 1205? A key comparison sub
The 1205 plays tighter, the SB2000 Pro has a stronger attack. That's the most noticeable difference, obviously 2000 pro cost $100 more but you also get that cell phone app so each one is very much worth it's asking price.
@@NemoPropaganda thank you. Love your videos! Really helped me on my journey for a decent system
Do a review of the xtz cinema 1×12 edge sub also then. 700 watt rms.
maybe, XTZ is not very popular in USA. I am really interested in their Spirit 4 Speakers though,.
@@NemoPropaganda @sparechange have done a test and review on the cinema edge subs on his CZcams channel then.
@@ulflarsson9693 yeah but his channel 10x my size.
I have Arcam receiver. When I play stereo many times, my subwoofer doesn't come on. Its non svs.
I tried to adjust nothing helped. What does this mean. Only if I increase the volume sometimes it gets activated. Some music its on right away.
Do you think pro 1000 will have a feature which help
Hey Jack, so maybe your subwoofer is set to Auto? I don't know what you have but some subwoofers have option to be set to on/auto/off, if possible set it to On position. This should fix your problem. Aside from that it just sounds like the auto on function is not very sensitive. But to answer your question yes the SVS subwoofer can be left on permanently so you don't have to worry about it turning off or not turning back on.
Hi nemo I have a small room 9m2 do you think two sb1000pro will perform the same as two sb2000? Ed mullen tells me that the pro is better than the sb2000 40/80hz and the sb2000 in low zone but the truth with the gain of room I must lower enough no?
I would simply choose based on room size. The two subs sound identical. 2000 just has more output and little more control when pushed to the limit. If the room is smaller 1000 should be great, if the room is bigger then 2000 may be needed.
@@NemoPropaganda Hi thanks for answering,my doubt comes because according to the measurements of the sb1000pro exceeds in +3db to the sb2000 of 40/80hz..that is twice as loud and with only 325w generates me quite a few doubts.
My room is the same as yours 14x10x10" and I already have a sb2000pro behind the sofa but my room is a bit complicated and I wanted to try three subs since I have dirac and basscontroll.
Do you think the sb1000pro is better than the sb2000? Did you notice that kick in the sb1000pro?
@@antonioantequeracid6005 sounds like you want to buy the SB2000 instead, just do that then. They sound the same, the sb2000 is just goes lower and louder. I think you're over thinking it. You need louder, get the louder one.
@@NemoPropaganda When I refer to the sb2000 I mean the non-professional one...hence my doubts if the new sb1000pro series could have improved more in the middbass area.
@@antonioantequeracid6005 this review is for the 2000 pro, I have not heard the old 2000, you should contact SVS directly but I believe they will tell you the same thing I told you in my first response.
Hello, the question is that I have a room of about 30 square meters and I want to use it for both music and home cinema Which one do you advise how many watts do I need to fill the room? i am interested in the svs sb1000 but i dont know if it will be a good choice.Thank you very much for your work
1000 might be too small, that's a good size room. It might be okay for music but cinema won't be as good. But it also depends how loud you like it. Have you emailed SVS to see what they recommend?
I have not sent or the end of the mail yet, maybe it would be better to go for the 2000pro so it will be a safe bet.Thank you for your time
@@henkiepda anytime :)
Simply put, I’m looking to upgrade subs. I use them solely for Movie watching. Ported or sealed?
vented subs while larger will generally rumble harder (explosions) and have much more output dollar for dollar when compared to similar sealed models. Sealed models will generally be a little more tactile (tank fire).
@@NemoPropaganda so either or depending on what i prefer. Right now i have def tech towers with built in subs. Im pretty sure no matter what direction i go im gonna be happy!
@@mikeygrizz23 pretty much, any sub would be an upgrade versus not having a dedicated sub. Determine your budget & physical size limitations and go from there.
Great review!! Got another subscriber.
I don't know what to do. Wondering whether I buy the SB-1000 PRO or SB-2000 PRO.
I got The Fives by Klipsch and my room is 12x12 inches.
In your experience, would I have any real benefit if I buy the SB-2000 PRO over the SB-1000 PRO listening to music almost 100% of the time between 65db and 75db? (I measured it through an app on my phone)
The difference in power between them (I also saw that the driver materials are different) makes any difference when playing at low volumes? I don't watch movies very often, the subwoofer would be mainly for music.
I like metal music that usually has that good punchy and fast kick drum, nice bass and good guitar riffs (Dream Theater, Jinjer, Arch Enemy, Rush, Epica, Symphony X, Soen and etc...) These bands play fast songs. That's what I listen most of the time, but I listen to another genres as well (pop music, edm, rock...).
If you think another brand would fit my needs better than these SVS (up to $800) please let me know. I'm at the really begining of my journey for great sound quality haha.
Thank you very much !! Keep doing these awesome and very informative videos! 👊🏻
Hey Tarcisio! Welcome to the team! So my brother you listen at very low volume, most subwoofers will not be in their optimum linear range at such low volume. For that reason I think it's best you get something smaller like the REL HT-1003. I understand it's the same price as the SB-1000 so you might feel like the SB-1000 is better since it's a 12" you're getting more value for your money and that is true. But because you listen at such low volumes the smaller 10" REL HT1003 will actually sound better, especially in that room size.
@@NemoPropaganda I will take a look at this one! What do you think about the B&W ASW608 that you reviewed? It'd be a better option for me than the Rel HT1003?
@@tarcisio_menezes you will find the answer to this question in the sticky comment of the ASW608 video :)
between this and Rel HT / 1205 which one do you advise me?thanks bro
I will answer this question in a video i will post on January 25th.
i wonder if you got to try the sb-1000 pro.. currently im about to make an order.. and i cant pick between the two..
i live in apartment but im worried the sb 1000 pro wont be enough .. and in my country PB 1000 pro cost same as sb 2000 pro so its all between sb version. is the sb 2000 pro really better than the 1000 pro? is it really louder? sound better? no noise? wouldnt more power on same driver just make it weaken and break faster ? or over heat? thank you !
man you hurt my feelings, i reviewed the sb-1000 pro already :( you can see it here: czcams.com/video/o6jaF-J3P7Y/video.html but to answer your question SB2000 pro does not use the same anything, the driver, amp, and cabinet are all different, it's a totally different subwoofer. Yes the 2000 is better but the 1000 pro is very good also!
@@NemoPropaganda thank you so much! The thing is i really didnt know which one to buy sb1000 pro or sb 2000 pro ened with sb 2000 pro now i know i made right decision i feel calmer
@@noyavargel3622 no problem brother, they're both really good but the 2000 pro will give you more of everything especially when pushed to the limits. Enjoy your new sub and congratulations :D
@@NemoPropaganda thank you brother! Altho you know... I was reallllllyyyyy sure that the sb 2000 pro is the exact same everything as sb1000pro but more w in amp xD im still surprised if its different everything like you say xD
@@noyavargel3622 oh yeah brother, it's totally different subwoofer, SVS just makes them look similar but the cabinet is larger, the plate amplifier is different, and the driver is A LOT different, SVS has some videos where they showcase these things, it's fun to watch :) here is the 1000 pro video czcams.com/video/TMV4qQXSsYI/video.html&ab_channel=SVS and this is the 2000 pro video czcams.com/video/9mVNycYgR0c/video.html they don't show the 1000 pro driver but I took mine apart and it's a really big difference.
Hi ,i have an velodyne optimum 12 and thinking of replacing it with 2 sb2000"s what do you recommend or is my velodyne worth keeping?
That opimum 12 is a beast. Is there something you don’t like about it?
@@NemoPropaganda Actually no , i just want a little more ,would love another Optimum 12 but cant find one . Dont want unmatched subs so just thought sell the optimum and buy 2 svs .
@@jimmydebrito6577 Yeah that's tough then, have you tried experimenting with room placement to see if you could get a little more out of it? In my room moving the sub 6" over to the left really picked up the low end. Food for thought, the REL Predator 1508 is on sale right now on Adorma for $1000 :D
@@NemoPropaganda decided on dual sb 3000 ....just set them up and .......WOW!!! Way beyond my expectations..thanks for your help.
@@jimmydebrito6577 Nice! The 3000 is pretty damn incredible for how small it is. It's output at the limit is seriously breathtaking when you look at how small the box is :D
Great review! I’m very new to home theatre, and have recently made some purchases. I bought this sub, and a Denon X3600h. I was planning on purchasing some Canton Chrono SL line L C& R speakers.
I had a question on whether my AVR will be enough to power the sub and speakers? I’m not sure when one starts to need a separate/integrated amp to properly power their setup. Would appreciate some help mate!
That Canton Chrono SL looks pretty sleek!!! I'm not sure it will sound full enough to serve as front speakers though, have you heard them?
@@NemoPropaganda admittedly doing a blind buy, although after a few months of looking through forums and videos like these. Canton seem to get great reviews and I was under the impression that it would be a solid 3.1 beginner HT setup. The two best bookshelves they make in that line and the same for the center speaker. I just want to make sure that the avr I’m buying will be enough to get the most out of the speakers?
@@theearlofmarch Will you be using the Denon X3600H or do you mean you're getting a different AVR?
@@NemoPropaganda I’ll be using the 3600 In the hopes it’s enough to properly power my proposed setup!
@@theearlofmarch it should have enough power, i just don't know what it will sound like.
Hi 👋🏼
I have dual PB-1000 pro and I’m thinking of adding a 3rd behind the couch 🛋 sub.
A friend is selling his SVS SB-2000 Pro for $500
Would it blend with my other ported subs.
Thanks
As always great video. 👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼🍻
Yes it will blend very well. You will primarily have to get your phase dialed in correctly but tonally it will be a very good match.
@@NemoPropaganda
Thank you for the quick response.😁 🙏🏼✌🏼
I’ll be picking it tomorrow.
Update from 3 months ago.
I absolutely love my SB-2000 Pro and like you said I just had to adjust the phase.
Thanks again for the advise. 🙂🔊👍🏼✌🏼
@@victorvalenzuela6949 And which would you choose mainly for movies pb 1000 pro or sb 2000 pro?
How do u think the arendal 1961 1s is compared to The svs sb 2000 pro then?.
SVS gives you more options and features with the cell phone app, Arendal gives you a bit of faster transient response. Both are very good, are they the same price in your region?
@@NemoPropaganda the arendal 1961 1s costs a little bit more than the svs sb 1000 pro but is a little cheaper than the svs sb 2000 pro then. But the 1723 1s are better then the svs sb 2000 pro then.?.
@@ulflarsson9693 if the sb2000 pro is more expensive than the 1961 1s then you should buy the 1961 1s. If you can afford the 17231s then of course that is even better. Both are very good.