Best Budget SQL Servo Subwoofer! Rythmik LV12M Review!
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Rythmik LV12M: www.rythmikaudio.com/LV12M.html
Test Equipment:
Preamp & Power Amplifiers:
Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 mono blocks: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
Hegel H190: www.hegel.com/en/products/int...
Emotiva TA2: emotiva.com/collections/pre-a...
Galion TS120 SE: www.galion-audio.com/collecti...
Source: Bluesound Node 2i or Cambridge MXN10 Streamer
www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en...
(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Denafrips Ares II or Ares 12th-1
www.vinshineaudio.com/product...
Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4
www.mazeaudio.com/speaker-cabl...
(rest in peace Kent)
Interconnect Cables:
Analysis Plus Oval One RCA
Oyaide Tunami Terzo XX V2 XLR
analysis.plus/product/oval-on...
Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment. - Věda a technologie
I think Rhythmk should make you their global representative... Because of you I bought one and sent it all the way to Nigeria.
Hi, Which model? How much did shipping cost?
Rythmik makes makes great subs and this one is a great value with a solid company. Been rocking an FV18 for a few months and couldn't be happier. A second FV18 is in my future.
I commented on another video of yours that I had visited Rythmik recently while in the Austin Texas area. I spent about an hour talking to Brian (founder) and he and the product are legit. We got DEEP into his design choices and there are no bean counters getting in the way of quality.
Great review bro! I was very impressed with LV12m's. It's incredible what they can do at that price point.
Love the review my dude. I'm still completely happy & satisfied with my LV12M pair for music.. and I am particular when it comes to audio gear, so that says a lot.
Nice review as usual Nemo. Ty
Oh I’m sharing this!!! NICE!! 🔥🔥
Solid review as always. Thanks!
Have been following your channel for the past couple of years and have purchased a SVS Sb1000 pro, REL HT1003, RSL CG3m and now Rythmik LV12M based on your recommendations. Your reviews have always been very helpful and spot on. Really appreciate your concise no nonsense approach. The Rythmik is a little rediculous for the level of output and sound quality it gives for the money. I've been put off by ported subs in the past but love it. You weren't kidding when you said it sounds like a sealed sub. Nonetheless, I'll stop rambling. You've saved me a tremendous amount of time and money over the years so just wanted to take a minute to say thank you!
Hi Gavin, thank you for taking the time to type that, it's hard to know from my end if I have any impact. The CG3M are pretty cool, they have their limits due to size but they're very nicely tonally balanced. I let a buddy borrow them that owns the Arendal 1961 towers, of course the CG3M is not as good as those but he was super surprised by how much he liked them.
@@NemoPropaganda You probably have bigger impact than your view count indicates. You do a better job of highlighting a products performance characteristics, caveats and best use cases than any other reviewer I've come across over the years. Your comparisons are also very consistent and set realistic expectations. I feel like your reviews are significantly more likely to result in an informed purchasing decision as a result but that is just my unsolicited two cents lol. I use the CG3m with the REl ht1003 for a small/low volume office stereo. Love it for that use, don't feel like it needs a lot of volume to sound it's best. Really love it's overall tonal balance, clarity and neutral sound. Bought the REL for $350 at end of life so I feel like the system is a bargain overall.
@@gavinsmith102 thank you gavin! That end of life sale was awesome, anybody who took advantage of that isn't going to upgrade for a long time I'd imagine since the purchase rings so high on the value meter!
If only there was a piano black lv12m for 800
Thank you. Hi fidelity, clear and clean review. I think you just cut my cost in half with the LV12m. ❤
glad you enjoyed it! Only down side is every since this review they keep selling out so if you see them in stock move quickly!
Love your videos. Super informative and relatable. And you seem like an awesome dude. Keep up the hard work!
thank you!
Bought one because of this review liked it so much I bought another one a week later. Thanks for the great stuff as always man.
love to hear that!
Great review, thanks!
Great video. Thanks so much for doing these. Rythmik doesnt get enough love. Im running 2 channel with my tv running into my dac but music SQ is the most important. I just picked an LV12M up and your videos helped a whole lot. Thanks! Im running sealed box bookshelf Merlin TSM MM starving for bass .The extra SPL and authority for a very small amount of SQ loss compared to F12 is totally worth. Magnepan .7s on the way the damned audiophile bug!! The LV12M should integrate with the Maggies well. We'll see how long it takes before adding a second LV12M or maybe FVX12. Thanks again for the great videos. Youre videos look great and I can tell you put a lot of work and effort into them. Keep it up! You are truly great for the audiophile community.
thank you for the kind words sir!! I'm glad you're enjoying the LV12M, I totally agree the trade off is worth it for those of us that prefer the extra bass weight over the F12 and the tighter F12 is great for guys it for its accuracy.
Thanks for the Rythmik content my man, bought a pair today largely based on this review.
hell yeah brother! congrats :)
Congrats on 15K subs bro
I would be thankful no matter who said it but coming from one of the day 1 OG's I extra appreciate it, thank you my man!
Thanks for reviewing rythmik subs. Its surprising to see them get so little attention with that servo technology. Ive tried the sb1000, emotiva xs8, and klipsch 10 inch and was pretty unhappy. They definitely all have strong spl output but lack the midbass articulation and start stop behavior that i crave. Im using klipsch the fives and they have some amazing speed for a $450 powered monitor but with a sub they crossover at 80hz so the midbass lacks so much detail. Hoping the lv12m will get the job done with some authority! Thanks again for the reviews i appreciate your vocabulary and how you explain how each product sounds and where it excels and who its for i find it so rare for reviewers to speak as well as you do.
I think this will be the winner for you!
I have 2 Rythmik FV18 Rev2 paper cone subwoofers. Love them. What you have heard here today is true. All of it.
Thank you for your review. I have a sealed subwoofer because I have to compromise between movies and music since I use the same 2.1 channel system for both.
nice! if you ever upgrade this or the fvx12 can do both really well.
I'll agree with other comments that say you have helped a lot of people than you'll ever know 👍
thank you for the kind words!
Hey Nemo, love your reviews! Nobody describes subwoofers as good as you! If i wanted this sub for mostly movie watching in a family room not exceeding 75 db of listening would it be good? Also compared to JL Audio E110 what do you think
The E110 is triple the price so a comparison doesn't really make sense but both subs will be fine at lower volumes. If you listen that low the more affordable L12 would make more sense or the very small JL D110.
when comparing any rythmik sub to any other product and you consider 1.the servo technology and the 2,manual integration features 3. warranty 3/5 4. bang for buck 5. every sub they sell has atleast a f3 of 20hz basically any 1 you choose is low enough 4 ht and is fast enough for music 6. all there amps are interchangeable so if it dies after the 3yr warranty you can get a replacement 7. they are a subwoofer only co.........so aside from looks is there really a comparison
well said.
Did I miss or did you not compare it to a REL? If not, because RELs are sealed and it's a bit of a different beast?
Hey, did you remember or did you ever get the chance to hear the old sunfire cube subs from back in the day? I remember those being the sh*t back then, but then again my tastes have changed as well as my knowledge, so maybe I am remembering them with rose colored glasses? Lol. Anyway, great review as always and thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
I never heard sunfire but yeah, REL doesn't make any vented subs.
Hey Nemo, awesome review bro - I am buying my first ever subwoofer for movies, TV, and music to pair with Klipsch RP 8000F II, which would you get at these current prices? RSL Speedwoofer 10S MK II at $449, Klipsch RP1000SW at $599, or Rythmik LV12M at $689? Thanks
LV12M all day and twice on sunday.
This sub will be my next sub. I could buy a RSL 10 right now, but really want a Rythmik.
I've had both, keep saving!
@@JPWinters I am. It's not hard to be honest. Literally everyone who has heard both agrees with you.
I just ordered some Kef ls60’s for my living room that opens up into a kitchen ~18x40 . Probably 80tv / 20 music thinking 1 Rel ht1510 or maybe a pair of smaller subs. Thoughts on matching subs with the ls60’s?
My understanding is you may not need subwoofers at all but if you feel you do I've found KEF speakers to be very flexible with subwoofer pairings. Try the speakers as is first, they extend down to 26hz on paper and KEF is known for honest extension specs :)
Thanks!
You bet!
Great review. I have 3 subs in my setup, 2 es RSL Speedwoofer 10S and 1 Jamo C910, all ported subs. I want to ditch the Jamo and get one that will complement my RSL Speedwoofer nicely. Will the Rythmik LV12M be the ideal complement for my RSL subs? The RSLs are 10 Inch woofers.
I do not recommend mixing brands, I suggest you either buy a third speedwoofer 10s or sell everything you have and go for a pair of LV12M.
Thank you for the quick response. Appreciate your honest recommendation. I will take that into consideration before making a final decision. Your unbiased reviews are invaluable to us looking to buy products for our home theater systems. Keep up the good work.
@@martinmares8998 anytime bro, I'll leave you with this, if you love what you have and just want more of it go for the third speedwoofer. If you're more on the hunt for an upgrade then go for the LV12M.
Great review. I’m thinking of buying the the SVS PB3000. I’m also considering the RSL 12S. Do any opinions on witch one you Would recommend. I will eventually go with 2. My room is 22 by 8 with 9 foot ceiling.
Thanks for any advice and help.
Hey Felix, those are two big subs, considering the RSL 12s is half the price you could literally buy 2 for the price of a single PB3000 and have dual subs right away. Choice seems pretty easy when you look at it that way :)
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you so much buddy. I really appreciate your advice and love all your videos. Keep up the amazing work. Thank you once again.
@@felixlaboy1453 I always got time for a long time subscriber :). If you're in the free discord post up some pics of whatever you get!
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you very much. You have always giving good advice.
20 years ago I built a dedicated HT (tiered seating, 126" screen, windowless, etc.) in my house in Texas. I had a fantastic SVS PB12-ISD/2 sub with dual 12" downfiring drivers that would shake the whole house. Of course, it was the size of a large coffee table too - a very large coffee table. I sold all of my gear and relocated to NC. I'm 60 years old and the kids are gone and a HT is no longer a consideration, but I'd like to have decent sound when watching the occasional movie in my living room. It's a large space (19' X 20' with vaulted ceilings and an adjacent kitchen/dining area). I still have my Axiom speakers from the theatre that I intend to use, but have no sub. Was thinking about an SVS SB-2000 (just cause I like the brand) or an Emotiva XS12 (I used to have some of their early stuff and liked it too), but recently learned of the LV12M. I know none of those options are going to fill my space with booming bass, but I'm thinking the LV12M is probably the best option, correct? I'd like to be able to feel/hear a bit of the bass when I'm watching a movie on Netflix or the latest episode of Survivor. :)
Hi Kevin, I hear ya! The SB2000 pro is not bad in any way it's just significantly smaller than the LV12m so naturally the LV12m is going to have a lot more grunt and that matters since your room is on the bigger side. With that out of the way let's move on to the the emotiva XS range, here's the simple truth, it is extremely rare that a product is so good nobody else comes close but rythmik is such a company. Nobody, and I mean nobody makes a vented sub that has the fidelity of a rythmik sub. Emotiva's XS range is fine, theres nothing wrong with it but Rythmiks vented subs are simply unchallenged.
Appreciate you taking the time to respond, I think I watched 5 of your video's today. :)
@@KevinStewart33 I'm happy you enjoy my style!
Hey man first off love your vids and your passion for music and movies. I’m trying to out together a decent system for mostly music without breaking the bank. I had a Sony dh590 and it got the job done in my opinion. I had some Polk audio bookshelf speakers and a Klipsch sub. I wasn’t happy with sub at all. My question is if I’m building a system for mainly music should I go with a receiver or integrated amp? I was fine with the Sony and I can pick that up for around 250 bucks. I want to spend less then 400 bucks for the receiver if possible and around 300 bucks for speakers. I’m a hip hop rap music lover like you and I’m torn between the lv12m and the rsl 12s. I’m open for any suggestions. Thanks I’m advance Love your vids
The 12s is the insane option. If you want as much earth shatterring bass for your money and they physical size of the 12s is not a problem I 1000% recommend it. But if it's too big then go for the smaller LV12M. These are literally extreme opposites in terms of size. The 12s is the largest vented 12 on the market while the LV12M is among the smallest. Both can play plenty loud for their respective sizes and both have very good sound quality, slight edge to the LV12M for SQ. Hope that helps.
Yes I’m afraid the 12s will be to big. I love deep bass extension and lows. I think part of the reason I was leaning to towards the rythmik is because you said it plays like a sealed but gets low like ported. I had one more question I forgot to ask. Would it be better to go with something like marantz nr1200 over a receive? Thanks again man keep up the good work and making the videos
@@kevinclodfelder266 sounds like you're an LV12M customer for sure then! As far as amps go I'm not familiar with that Marantz model. Generally around $500 my go-to recommendation is the Emotiva TA1. It's got good honest power and a clean sound.
If your only interest is in movies (not music listening at all), would LV12M still be a contender over the PB 1000 Pro? I'm torn. I def want some action movies deep bass, but also enjoy nuance a lot and wonder if my Klipsch RP 500Mii L/R' bookshelves would benefit more from LV12M. Thanks.
Of course! Movies have bass detail and fidelity too my bro!
Was hoping you’d review this- great info!
When you listen to similar but different quality subs like the lvm and fvx do you notice the sound quality difference throughout the entire listening experience or are there particular passages or songs that really show off the difference? Curious if someone swapped them back and forth if there would ever be a time where you wouldn’t notice the difference
In my system the difference is noticeable but in more affordable systems I think the difference will be smaller. For me its an overall difference, I would for sure notice.
Damn, this seems to be a tremendous value and possibly for me! Currently finishing the man cave and one end will be home theater based while the other end will be the sports bar. I do a good mix of music and movies and would be going dual subs, so these would match well with my use. You didn't mention the Monolith 12v2 which is close to price of this one. Do you think the rhythmic would still be the better choice? Thanks for another great review!
For HT everyone will recommend 2 subs. It's especially useful in a room where you have many places you want the sound to be good. The two subs can help cancel out peaks and nulls in bass. For your use, 2 subs seems like a no brainer. Two of these Rythmiks should be amazing.
I have not reviewed any monolith subs.
@leodesforges161 I have a lower budget and jbl has a 550p sub that I was thinking of getting two of, you think it's worth it?
@@nathanholm3512 what is your room, intended content, how many people, budget?
@@leodesforges161 the 550p is a great value option at its $200 sale price but instead of buying 2 550p's I'd sooner suggest a single RSL 10S MK2. Neither option comes close to what the LV12M can do but all 3 options are very good for their asking price.
Did you ever consider looking at CAR sub ? this brand seem to be nice as it is a SQ sub - Wonder how good they will be in house with a Crown AMP - IMAGE DYNAMICS IDQ10 V.4
this is a powered sub, you cannot use it with a separate amplifier. I have a car audio setup but I do not have any desire to DIY a home subwoofer. IDQ10 is a good driver, you can build your own enclosure for it and get a plate amp from parts express, it should sound good as long as you build it well but even the best SQ drivers from car audio will not rival Rythmik subs.
Thanks for this review!. I own Ascend Acoustics Sierra 2EX V2 which extends just below 40 hz +/- 3 dB in-room. I primarily watch streaming programming but when I do listen to music, it's jazz, big band and orchestra as well as a small percentage of classic rock. I own a bi level, which has no sealed rooms on the top level. No place for 2 subs and also no budget for 2 subs! Based on this review, I'm thinking I'd be better off with the LV12M. You reviewed both. Do you think I'm on the right track? Also, you're the first person to advocate setting the crossover below 80hz. I'm thinking, based on my speakers, I should try that.
sorry..... when I wrote "both", I meant both...L12 and this LV12M...was strongly considering the L12 until I watched this video. not much more money!
Got it! Okay so, while technically the L12 is a smidgen tighter than the LV12m Rythmik's servo tech does a really good job at getting the vented subs to have the SQ of their sealed counterparts to the point that I think most people should simply choose based on the form factor they need (shape/size) and output needs. The sound quality of either one is very good. I say go for LV12m unless you feel its just phsycially too large, then go for the L12. Of course lets remember that the vented LV12M can play around twice as loud and will be more forceful in the lower end so 1 LV12M is similar to a pair of L12 if that makes sense.
Thanks very much for your detailed response. Based on that, I'll be planning on the LV12M since it's only a little more money. I'll just need to measure my spces where I'd be placing it. Unfortunately, there would only be two possible spots due to room size and furnishings.
I bought my so a Jamo C912 as an Amazon Renewed for $178.00 for my son. Your review helped my decision on that model plus the video review of the best budget 12s. I hooked it up on my system, and despite my large open floor plan, it really added a lot of bottom end! So I'm guessing one of these Rythmics will do fine in my space.
@@WalterDavidRiffmon if the C912 was enough then an L12 or LV12M will be plenty! Feel free to hop in the free discord if you have any other questions. Link is in the description.
Thanks!
Did you ever review a hsu sub? They were always compared favorably in comparisons ive seen done, but never seen betweem rythmik, id be very curious how it would fare! And what ever happened to rythmiks lvx12? That was a noticeable step up from this model.
I'm not familiar with LVX12, I don't know about Hsu personally but my friend owned both Hsu and Rythmik, he said Hsu was good for the money but Rythmik was overall better.
@@NemoPropaganda oh wow good to know. Appreciate your presence in your comment section and replies
@@mcjonner No problem, I try to answer all comments when possible :)
It would be nice to see the hsu vtf2 mk5 reviewed one day and see how they compare. I'm disappointed rythmik changed their line up I think the LVX12 would have been the monster king affordable sub, 100 more watts, bigger enclosure, but $200 cheaper than their fvx12. The lv12m is new as well I wonder how it stacks up against their outgoing model.
@@mcjonner I think it makes more sense to have the LV12M that is $400 cheaper than the FVX12. Rythmiks L lineup is very customer feedback driven in regards to price. If Rythmik made the Vented L more affordable it was due to customer feedback asking for a more affordable entry level vented 12. It's the same with the L12, that sub was born from customer feedback asking for a more affordable F12.
The Jbl 550p is 189 at Walmart had to get 2😂🎉
Rythmik is great and you 100% right about their website. They should take note on it. How about REL compare to this?
REL doesn't have any vented subs.
@@NemoPropagandaThey have 12" passive radiator subs in their S-series but those are way more expensive. Nobody would cross shop those
I ended up getting SVS SB 3000, it was in stock at my local Best Buy and I patience issues so just wanted to get a sub but I'm still debating whether or not getting rythmik fvx12.
the sb3000 is great for its physical size but the FVX12 is on another level.
Agreed, I have the FVX12 it is a great sub!
@trufnk I wish I had the space for the fvx12. My God it's huge.
Can that Monolith 12" THX Ultra Sub hang with the Rythmik?
Most proper 12" vented subs can play loud if that's what you're asking. If you're asking if monolith has the same fidelity the answer is no. There is not another vented sub on the planet that can match Rythmiks fidelity.
I'm in the market for a new subwoofer after living with a Dayton Titanic 10" sealed sub for over 20 years. Who do I look to for advice? The king of subs (especially when considering music), my man Nemo. I think with my budget and needs I'm landing on the Rythmik LV12M. This just seems perfect. Have about a 10k 2-channel system but it's mixed in with HT, however it's music 90% of the time. I need more impact and output for movies that my Dayton 10" sealed just can't provide but the sub has to be very tight and nuanced for my primarily music based system. Room is about 13.5 x 27. Thanks so much for all your content and help!
Hi Sean, I'd say you are the perfect customer for an LV12M, it should be a substantial upgrade for you.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks, man! Ordered it today, will be here Friday. Thanks!
@@sean_heisler I think you got the last one, I just checked for someone else and they're all sold out now with no ETA! :). Congrats brother, you've made a find choice.
@@NemoPropaganda No kidding? Unless it was the Matte version? If so, they are unfortunately out of stock on those. They only had the black oak in stock and I don't mind too much. I dabble in woodworking as well a little and if I hate the finish I might wrap the top/sides/bottom in a real wood veneer to match my Usher speakers.
@@sean_heisler oh yeah, both finishes are sold out now :). Brother if you add your own vaneer please hop in my free discord and post a picture, I'd love to see that!
Please review their FM8 subwoofer dual 8inch audiophile sealed sub
I think it's too niche, all rythmik subs are SQ champtions. I tell people just buy the shape and size you like.
@@NemoPropagandado you think that would make a great sub for a desktop setup? Maybe a pair of harbeth p3esr and FM8?
@@aceofspades6667 I don't personally do desktop audio but if you have the space an LV12M would get my vote! Theres a guy in my discord that uses a pair in a smaller room in near field and absolutely loves it!!
Too bad we cant get these in Europe 😢 Nemo please do some def tech sub reviews too! 😉
I can't bro, they don't email me back :(
@@NemoPropaganda thats insane im sure you ll love them 😢
Have a question for you.
This or a Monolith V2 12?
70% movies, 30% music.
I already ordered the Monolith but can return it. Please let me know asap.
Townhouse currently but do have plans to get into a house again and don't want to re purchase a different sub at that time.
Limited space right now but may be have just enough room for one or the other.
I'm running them from a Onkyo tx71000
Infinity Primus towers and surrounds.
The monolith is much larger and more expensive bro so if you're looking for big output that's what the monolith V2 m12 is gonna do, the more compariable Rythmik would be the bigger FVX12, either way the reality is if fidelity and transients are a concern nobody makes a better vented sub than Rythmik in terms of overall bass fidelity. Best of all they're priced well, extend low, and play loud. If I were you I'd probably go for an RSL 12s intead of the monolith or a pair of LV12m. But maybe you'll love the monolith also! Not everyone is sensitive to bass fidelity, that's why some people believe "bass is bass".
@@NemoPropaganda
Thank you for responding. I got the Monolith on sale for 699.99
I do like fidelity too though. I'm a little put off by the size of the Monolith.
I am just not familiar enough with Rythmics I guess. They seem possibly underpowered by the 300 watt amp. But then your review debunks my thoughts. I'm wondering if the Rythmic would dig deep enough for movies to be felt. I'm not looking for blow the roof off but clean deep, full low bass. I would more than likely order 2 of the Rythmics.
@@seth3000gt every single Rythmik sub is flat to 20hz or lower. They are actually very obsessive with low frequency extension. One day I asked why they didn't have a 10" model, they said a sealed 10" could not measure flat to 20hz or lower so it was not worthy of the Rythmik name because all Rythmik subs should be flat down to 20hz or lower. If you look at their spec they're also more stringent with their measurements often using -2dB instead of -3dB when describing roll off. Hope that helps.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks again for taking the time. I did notice that they are more stringent on their measurements. Monolith is +- 6db.
I agree about their website. The only reason I haven't bought a Rythmik is their website.
don't let that stop you.
@@NemoPropaganda I should have said "so far"
Rythmik FXV12, Paradigm V12, or Rel HT1205? Mix HT and Music.
FVX12 all day long and twice on Sunday. 1205 MK2 is a great if you need a more compact solution but it cannot match what the FVX12 can do. As far as pardigm their entire Defiance range seems to be average at best and nothing special.
@@NemoPropaganda Awesome. Thank you! I greatly appreciate your fast response. I will use your link to order. Hopefully you get something in return for that.
@@Cheeba118 I don't use affiliate links but I appreciate the thought :), Rythmik does have a section that asks how you heard about them, filling that in helps them but I don't opperate off of kickbacks or anything like that. I don't fault anyone who monetizes their youtube channel, for me, I just prefer to keep hobbies separate from income where possible.
Will you review any M&K subwoofer?
I don't think so, most of the ones you guys want me to review are too big & heavy! They also seem to be more geared towards professional home theater.
@@NemoPropaganda I'm not aware M&K subwoofer is deemed for professional home theater.
@@liutungwei5160 oh yeah, until recently their cheapest sub was like $3000 and faily large. It seems like they have some more affordable stuff now though.
I was hoping for a comparison to a REL sub. They must be in another price bracket
REL doesn't really make anything comparible. This is a compact vented 12, REL doesn't make any vented subs.
@@NemoPropaganda This is true. But when you praised the rythmik so highly for its fidelity, I thought of REL as being your go-to sub so it was on my mind, and I wondered if it was even close in regards to sq Thanks for the vid!
@@seoulrydr The two companies have similar goals in terms of fidelity. They take very different approaches but end up with a similar result in terms of fidelity. They are on par with one another in terms of overall SQ. REL gives you better looks for the money while Rythmik gives you more extension for the money. Both are top class SQ subwoofer brands. My FVX12 and T7X are my most used subs.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks, bro. you're my hero!
@@seoulrydr :)
then here i come with 180hz crossover to subwoofers.....
i am a madman!
I'm calling the police.
You have so to a HSU sub…allegedly like Rythmik and a great value
I don't think that's true, the few people I know that have owned both said they were very different. Anyway, Hsu doesn't return my emails so no review :(
Re: 80hz for whatever reason
Nemo, correct me if I am wrong but I am going to guess why it doesn't make sense is due to the fact that most speakers roll off 50 hz and below. Crossing over your subs that high means you now have a "double" bass situation, potentially making it really boomy and/or just not integrating well?
I have crossed over that high in the past for my two channel only system due to the fact that where I had my speakers and listening position produced the best stereo image came at a cost of some bass issues around 70-90hz and/or room arrangement issues. So I intentionally HPF my speakers around that range with my preamp, ...a feature in the two channel world that seems like a unicorn...and have my subs picked up the rest.
I have since changed the arrangement of my room and built "bass traps" where I no longer need to HPF my speakers.
correct!
Most speakers do not go down to 50hz in flat response. If you have speakers with thin bass, you can cross to 80hz no problem. My speakers go down flat to 40hz tho, and I crossed them at 60 and 80, 80 was a bit boomy.
and the Rythmik Sealed Version, the L12 have higher definition for Music?
both are really good, the LV12M is capable of more output though.
Hey Nemo, how does it compare to L12?
the lv12m is essentially a more powerful L12 so if you need more output or oomph in the lower end the LV12M will get it done all while having the same fidelity .
@NemoPropaganda thanks Nemo, eventually I want to get to 3 subs. One for the oomph and another two for hifi bass. My speakers hit 24hz@-3db but I am missing all the action in the movies.. and my space is a 12x16 with vaulted ceilings. I think I will buy lvm12 first..and then L12s
@@stackoverflow8260 if you got enough money for all that just get a pair of FVX12.
@NemoPropaganda Nemo, you got me thinking. In my relatively small space, SPL is easy, so should I be focusing on extension? In that case, a sealed sub like L12 might be the choice, and two of those will get me to pretty much 10hz +-3db.. (considering the room gain and 2 subs).
@@stackoverflow8260 you're not getting 10hz with any meaningful output out of any compact sub brother, if that's what you want you'll need something like a pair of F18.
I wanted dual Fvx12s, but lord Jesus almighty, its 2 FEET in depth?!! What the heck were the engineers thinking? It's almost as big as my Amp rack. It would look absolutely goofy in most listening rooms. I wish I had the space to not even care about something this size. I guess lv12m or f12 it is.
Vented subs generally need a lot of cabinet, the FVX12 size is more the norm, it's not giant by any means, it's the LV12M that is compact. A giant vented 12 would be the RSL 12s, I did a video where I show it next to a LV12M, the difference is size is wild! If you want vented 12 performance in a more compact enclosure just go for the E15hp2 :)
@NemoPropaganda But is there a huge SQ difference between the LV12m and the E15hp2? Because SQ and price to performance, FVX12 seems to be the champion, but it's way too big for me. Economically, LV12m seems like my only option. I could also get 2 of the Lv12m as opposed to 1 E15hp2.
@@NaregChakhbasian there is a sound difference yes but the LV12M is still exceptionally good. If dual LV12M fit in the budget better I think that's a great choice.
I think I'm sold, size, price, sound quality and a Texas company
do it!
@NemoPropaganda I did, it arrives tomorrow. Thanks
@@ryanr6240 congratulations on an excellent purchase!
_BELOW_ 80Hz? Sir this is home theater heresy.
I’ve already called the HT Police
I’m about to make a big move Rythmikward. Can’t wait to share
you won't regret it.
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thank you sir!
won't consider a sub without balanced inputs - manufactures wake the F up!
I don't think anyone needs to wake up, this is an extremely low price point and Rythmik is trying to keep it as affordable as possible, most people shopping a $600 sub don't have a balanced front end. We don't expect economy cars to come with michilin pilot sport tires do we? Most subs under $1k do not have XLR, you want a sub with XLR, Rythmik has plenty of them, this is not one of them. Sometimes ya'll have valid complaints but this is an extremely unreasonable complaint for this price point.
What are the benefits of balanced inputs?
@@greyshadow7786 massively reduced noise floor - near zero. All RF interference is canceled out. Reduced signal attenuation. Big factors with longer cable runs (more than a few meters) especially with a lot of electronics in the house. Once you 'go' full balanced signal path you'll never look back.
Getting Ginsu knife salesmen vibes here...
affiliate links suck...
your vibe detector is trash my bro, I've literally never used an affiliate link in my life! Buy it, don't buy it, I literally don't care. Go ahead and check the description of all my reviews I've ever posted, check all my community posts, literally not 1 time have I used an affiliate link.
They really need to give you an affiliate link because you just sold another.
I appreciate that but for now I'm happy just helping people find a great sub :)
@@NemoPropaganda I bought 4 E15HP2s based largely on your review and would have used an affiliate link if you had one, but I did mention you on the purchase order and when I talked to Brian.
@@deankim6687 wow! you're gonna have some crazy good bass my man! I'm excited for you :). Thank you for mentioning me when buying the sub, that's good enough for me.
@@NemoPropaganda Oh I’ve had them for almost a year now and love them. The fact that you don’t have an affiliate link actually gives more credibility to your review for me though. It makes me feel like your complexity unbiased.
Can you put this in your car lol
technically you can do anything but higher end HT subs like this one are generally tuned a little too low for car audio.
I have emailed and called Rythmik several times to discuss and order two subwoofers. They never answer or respond. I want to buy, but I am reluctant because of their customer service. Do you have a contact that will respond so I can get my subs?
I do not. I have heard from others their emails are sometimes slower roughly about 3-5 business days at times. When I bought mine they were replying within 2-3 days.
I emailed them a technical question yesterday (Sunday) and got a response early in the morning today. Perhaps your emails are ending up in spam? I am not sure about why you are not able to reach them by calling.
I just called last Friday morning before their 2 week plant closure. I left 2 voicemails on two different of the listed numbers. I got 2 return calls within 10 min placed and order within an hour and they fulfilled the order and I got an ups tracking 1 hour after that.
He lost me at 300watts
That’s a shame, you’ve been tricked by the marketing machine but I lost you so no need for me to explain I take it?
@NemoPropaganda don't sweat it he probably doesn't understand driver efficiency, lol😂😅
@@marcgallant5270I understand efficiency, resistance, ohms, frequency response, slope, etc, which is why I know this isn't going to cut it for what I need and want as far as visceral impact. Let me know if you have any questions.
@@marcgallant5270 or how vented subs can play twice as loud with half the power beause the vented design is more efficient overall compared to sealed, or how servo tech boosts efficiency, oh well, we lost him, such a big loss, I don't know if I will emotionally recover from this.
Newby Subscriber here. Thanks for greatttt reviews. Love the straightforward no BS approach. 🫡🫡🫡 call a spade a fckn spade.