Rythmik E15HP2 Subwoofer. Catchy title goes here.
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**Corrections & Updates**
YT user Dean Kim kindly pointed out that that the E15hp2 is actually 900w RMS. I mistakenly assumed based on the amplifier name HX1000 that it was a 1000w.
Still plenty of power 😅🤣
@@Kwarkiemodo indeed!!
@@NemoPropaganda I got F18, how does it compare to this unit?
@@NemoPropaganda Hey. How much volume can I safely use? Half? 12 o clock? 1 o clock? 4 o clock aka max?
How do these compote the f18 ?
I am a DIY guy, so I appreciate that Rhythmik actually sell their drivers with amplifiers, so you can design your own enclosure and finish. I modelled the 15" drivers (I think the one in the E15 should be either the DS1502 or DS1510). I have to say, just from the specs they seem very nice. Nearly as good as it gets. Very efficient due to relatively light cones, so it has plenty midbass headroom but still able to play low with about 1,2" peak - to - peak excursion. 103dB@20Hz in a sealed box (anechoically). That's pretty impressive. Sadly, it is quite difficult to get their products here in Europe
Love my 2 Rythmik FV18 Rev2 paper cone subwoofers. Really nuanced bass notes that I didn't hear with my PB16 ULTRA. Great low end. Very punchy and dynamic. Mid bass punch really hits you.
As always, thanks for your solid gold reviews. I just pulled the trigger on this based on your review. It will replace the RSL Speedwoofer 10s in my, "music only" setup.
wooo!! Nice my man, you're in for a serious upgrade. RSL is oustanding for it's price category but this will be a substantial upgrade for you, congrats mann!
Love the review! I’m actually pumped for the G22 review lol.
Great to see the review. I have x2 E15s (600w) and they are awesome for music and movies. 100% agree with your assessment. I chose to go with rythmik in large part based on your earlier reviews of other Rythmik models. Keep up the good work!!
hey what's up Kyle! That's awesome! I never thought people would buy other models that I didn't review just based on what I said about the smaller versions so that's super awesome! Dual 15" must ROCK!!
I picked up 2 F12SE with GR paper drivers upon your recommendation and they brought my stereo sound up 3-notches. Thanks again for your review. I like Rythmik more than SVS for stereo. I think I shared with your channel that the paper drivers blend well with my paper driver speakers. Vandersteen 2CE sigII.
Great to see somebody this excited about a piece of gear. It brings me back to my early days of hifi when everything was a holy shit moment.
Great comment... I feel the same way!
My FV18s and FV15HPs are deep digging, articulate subs. Rythmik excels at clarity backed by clean mid bass! Sealed, ported, they all sound great.
100% agree.
I love how happy this sub makes you. What a great review thank you Nemo
thank's Hornz!
I love how down to earth this review is. When you were talking about the best food you've eaten and all you could say was "man, that's some of the best stuff I've ever had", I died. Because, what else can you say that expresses it? Haha.
For the subs, I want to see you review a G25HP and the F18, then cross compare with the E15HP2. I'm stuck at a crossroads between the 3 of them...
thank you my dude! I probably won't review F18 or G25 because they are too heavy for e to move around but there is a user in our discord who owns all 3 (e15, f18, and g25) and he can answer any question you have about them :). The discord is free so feel free to hop on. Link is in the description of this video.
The way your body language is and facial expression says all about the subwoofer. You can not get a better reaction than that. Nice video. I have till black friday to find my 2 subs.
ahaha, yeah dude, I was even gonna try and hide it, love this one!
Came back to watch this review again, just so that I could fall in love with this sub all over again haha
Another outstanding review. Love your content man! Though I really have no need, I'm considering replacing my L12s with a pair of the E15s. The L12s augment my FVX15s well as is; I can imagine how well the E15s would do.
Hey thank you bro! There is a dude in our discord who has dual F18 and has augmented them with F12 and E15 and he has also owned the L12 so he might be able to shed some light on how that might turn out. The discord is free too.
I learned a while back that for accurate low end you really need servo control! It's sad that so many subwoofer manufacturers just don't care to go the extra mile to implement it on their subs! I'm glad Rythmik is not one of those! Servo control systems are complicated but necessary imho! I run old school 18" Velodyne subs and when they bite the dust, I will turn to Rythmik! Great review man, love the passion!
Hey thank's man! I don't 100% agree because REL doesn't use servo and their subs are amazing too!
Bro you have EVOLVED! I believe I remember hearing you say you didn’t like a big sub yet you’ve reviewed two 15’s in a row! Congrats
it's not that I don't like them, they're just so heavy lol
Can't wait to hear about that kf92! It's currently between that and this rhythmik for me on my short list of dual subs for my home theater / music listening hybrid system. Audio is just like food, you hear with your eyes as well as with your ears, and I love the slim form factor of this sub. Thanks for dropping the knowledge!
I am pretty sure the kf92 is awesome, but I am sure one bigger driver can be better, except for space obviously. If I had the space, I'd go with Rhythmik.
Hey Luke, the KF92 is fantastic in it's own right but much like the little brother KC62 a lot of the KF92 magic is the incredible extension you get for the size as the KF92 is still a small subwoofer while the E15 is medium sized but if you can accommodate the larger e15 you will have a lot more headroom and consistent extension at louder volumes.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the response! Good to know that the rhythmik has significantly greater headroom
Hahahah love it man, this thing sounds like the unit to buy if you have the space for it!
Nice review. Wish rythmik subs were easily available in Europe!
Your 100% right! Keep up the great job bro! 😎👍
If we get that subwoofer can you get use a discount code ?? 😎👍💰
Absolutely love my Rythmik e15hp2! Great review! If your reading this and are questioning which home sub to buy look no further!! Rythmik = Quality
well said!
Hey Nemo, great review. Having had both vented and sealed Rythmiks here (F12, G22, FV15HP), I agree with everything you said.
Hey Eric, thank you! it's always nice to get feedback from an experienced owner.
Is there any boominess to the ported FV15hp?
@@jm-vq4cm assuming you don't put it in a corner, which can cause that, it's all in the tuning, which you have control of. Use high damping mode.
@@matsudakodo one last question, why 3 different Rythmik subs, are they really that good to make people go that crazy?😅
@@jm-vq4cm just finding the best fit for me
Great review! I’ve been waiting for this review. I have 2 in black oak. Best subs I’ve ever owned. No delay brought on by digital processing, effortless extension, super clean. I’ve owned SVS, Polk, Velodyne. These win hands down. If your bud is willing to sell them to you for good price, easy decision…
I would love to hear that! What size room are they in? And what else are you running them with? If you don't mind me asking. ✌️
@@amb3cog they are in a 16 X 23 ft room. Currently running an old Klipsch reference 7.2.4 system via Denon 8500. New MultEQ X software is real deal. Better than mini DSP IMHO
@@marcgigliotti9637 That’s a fairly sized room. Do you find that you ever need more headroom?
@@deankim6687 Not really. Every time I do, I have to remind myself it’s not very well-treated. It’s a family room and my hands are tied to acoustically treat it to satisfaction. If anything, I need to place the subs asymmetrically to load the room a little more evenly. But that will not look nice. I’m lucky enough my wife let me buy them; I don’t want to push it lol
Subwoofers, for me, add the foundation and background on which the rest of the music is built and etched against. Even in pieces with no discernable low end, a subwoofer will make your music spring forward because, unless it's removed, there is always ambience in the performance that that anchors it in real life, spatial cues if you will.
I have two E15SEs in my set up and I will get lost in the music for hours.
strongly agree :)
Awesome..review..thank you
Hey Nemo you helped me decided on my purchase of the rythmik fvx12 and I love it. I had it paired with svs prime speakers before but now I have psa mtm 210t’s. I’m doing a 2.1 setup then I want to do a 2.2 setup eventually. Instead of buying another fvx12 I want to get an e15hp and again you’re helping me decide my purchase. I love the fvx12 but you know how this hobby is you always want more and I’m fascinated by the idea of a sealed 15 paired with my speakers. Might be the one to go dual. Thanks for reviewing a larger sub we all appreciate it
Either way that's gonna be an awesome setup!! If you're in the free discord feel free to share some updates or pics.
I missed the part at the end where you said you would be trying to get a g22 to review. I’m torn between that and an E15. Too many great decisions. I hope you get your hands on one
@@Ozzypants2020 yeah I have it, still a ways out from the review though.
WOW!!! You almost seem at a loss for words as to just good this sub is. My eye is now on this prize for sure. It's no longer if but just a matter of when I'm getting an E15. I have had the FV15HP ported ported version of this sub in my dedicated HT room since 2011 and still works like a charm. This sealed E15 will go in a 2nd room I use for mainly for 2-channel stereo music. It's true as you say, Rythmik makes some of the best subwoofers in the world! Great review... why not just keep climbing up the ladder to the 18 inch subs from Rythmik next, I can only imagine what your reaction will be then... Great job and thanks alot for another insightful fantastic review!
oh I don't know about the 18" bro, it's pretty heavy and I have a back injury I have to protect :). Glad you're loving the FV15, I'd image it's got most of the E15 SQ with tons more low end authority.
perfect at its range.
Nice review! I have a pair of F18's in black oak which are awesome. I'm thinking about downsizing to two E15HP2's in gloss black due to the smaller footprint.
if you are't pushing your f18 to their limit maybe you will be happy with E15 pair, but it is a downgrade in terms of maximum output.
Great reviews! I watched several of your Rythmik videos. Your appreciation and enthusiasm for the brand continues to confirm my recent purchase. I just purchased (2) F18's for my system which is 50/50 HT/Music. Excited to see and hear them. Just got my tracking number today. These are the finishing pieces to my complete system upgrade.
You're in for a treat, keep that damping switch set to high and you'll have a nice well defined edge to all the bass notes and transients. You're gonna love it.
You were right! What a treat these are. Got them today and installed SVS isolation pads on them. These subs are something else. And I agree the pictures don't do them justice. They are gorgeous.
@@johngentry5885 hell yeah brother!! If you need any setup help feel free to join the free discord!
Great Review, nice to see you are trying bigger subs as well, now I wonder if you could try the REL HT1508 predator. I remember SpareChange giving the 1508 a bit cleaner and composed in some areas of those movie scene from the HT 1205. Maybe it would be nice to try in music too.
thank's roy! I will revie the predator for sure, i just don't know when :)
Great review! I've been watching all your reviews before making a decision on a 2 subwoofer setup and you really have me interested in Rythmik. I could use another opinion: I have a 20x25x7 ft room (3500 ft3). I will mostly use for music, but do you think the E15 600w would be enough power in a HT situation? I am trying not to justify the High Powered version to save a little money if I can help it.
I think the 600w will be enough for a lot of people but how much bass is enough is so personal. If you're worried it won't be enough just spring for the 1000w version, no audiophile ever regrets having too much power.
Great review man. So considering how highly you praise this sub, would something like a Rel Carbon Special still blow this out of the water at 2/3x the price in all attributes outside outright power/extension or is it really that good that it's comparable?
Hi Stu, I'm not sure as I've not heard the Carbon Special but it sure is beautiful :D
Michelin Star worthy sub 🤩🌟
Loved this review! Tell us what you really think LOL! I’m still hoping for an E22 review some day as my space, sadly, cannot accommodate the larger models.
I will not review the E22 but I will review the G22 soon which should be similar. I did review the L22 though.
@@NemoPropaganda I look forward to it.
I'm thinking about seriously picking these up and upgrading from my old Aperion Bravus II 8D Powered Subwoofer. I was thinking of getting Arendal 1723 2S or the Rythmik E15HP2 in gloss white to pair with my KEF R11s.
Hey Max, the Arendal 1723 1S is super good but I havn't heard the 2S model so I can't really help too much here but either way you'll be getting an awesome sub!
I have an E15HP in my home theater (the 600W RMS version). Best subwoofer I ever bought, both for music and movies.
I used to have two, but when I moved to another house, I sold one because I created a small dedicated HT in which one sub was sufficient. For music in my living room I swapped it out for a smaller sub.
I very much regret selling it....
If I ever want to go back to combining my living room for music and movies, I'd really want to go dual sub again (because of the size of the room and the amount of seats).
I live in the Netherlands and shipping it in from the US is not as easy and cheap as it used to be.
Best choice ever in going with Rythmik subs. Poor choice in selling one of them 😒
well said! sorry you had to sell one only to wish you still had it, we've all been there :(
That thing is monstrous! This beast is for those home theater freaks who actually want to feel the power of the incredible Hulk's punch! I have a Velodyne with an eight inch driver and if I wanted to I could knock all the pictures off the walls. I can only imagine what this can do.
I have 4 of them. They rattle the dry wall when I play bassatronics songs.
Very few folks do reviews on Rythmik subs, keep em coming. Rythmiks are hidden gems
totally agree bro! Gonna try and check out some more in 2023 :)
@@NemoPropaganda hey bud, whats your settings normally at when testing out these subs?
@@ahmedansari2704 it's all different, depends what speakers I have setup and sub I have setup and if I'm using single or dual sub, etc....
I really appriciate your reviews of the Rythmick Subs. I find them very informative and I like your comparisions. Would you by chance be reviewing any HSU subwoofers (12" or 15" versions) anytime soon? While I'm in a sea of people looking for comparisions between their number 1 and number 2 options, it looks like the price, performance and reviews are very simular. Thanks for your time and keep up the great reviews.
Hsu is not interested in working with me and I do not believe they can compete with Rythmik but I am confident they make a great sub for their price category.
Thank you for this review. If I can just get my wife on board with two bigger boxes this is perfect for my massive living room
Just show her the the FV25HP first, tell her you're buying a pair. Bring it up a few times, let her object, act defeated for a few days and then do the ole "honey how about these smaller and cheaper ones?" ahahaha my new slogan will be come to Nemo Propaganada for hifi reviews & marriage advice! :D
My wife says size matters, but then she insisted on 3000 Micro! Please advise?@@NemoPropaganda
@@WWeiss-nv5vz brother, step 1 is understanding your wife is always correct! The Micro has 8" drivers and 8" is very large! :)
Bro… u GOTTA buy it! 😉
Hey Nemo, loved the review.
I am currently auditioning an Arendal 1961S. It's pretty much like you described it, it doesn't care about how much bass the song calls for. It wants to make bass and lots of it.
Tried an SVS sb3000, didn't care for the tone of the bass. Just didn't seem natural, and actually caused my ears to ring a bit( pressure I guess), but didn't experience it with the Arendal.
We have an L22 in our living room and gotta say the Rythmik just tells it like it is. Had an fv15hp before in a different house,but it was just so damn big. Hard to accommodate moving it around to get the best positioning.
Now I'm kind of gravitating back towards Rythmik, they are just so clean and precise.
My quam is F-12, FVX-12 or stretch way beyond my budget and try to grab the E-15? My listening room is small, less than 1600 cubic ft.
I am definitely an SQ over Spl guy. Finally got a pair of bookshelve speakers that are clean, and quick with little distortion ( even with metal) Gotta tell ya, CSS Criton 1tdx speakers fricking rock. I listen to jazz, all kinds of metal, hard industrial, pop and some dub step. But definitely trying to get a second b I can stick with for a long time.
Figured I'd bring this dilemma to your table and see if you can offer me any wisdom.
Any information or advice you got brother I'm open to hear it.
I think F12 will be the best option because it can blend the highest while still offering up great extension. FVX12 is great if you like an exaggerated low end (like me lol), and the E15hp2 is like the F12 but slightly better overall and a better fit for those that will play louder or have larger rooms. But if your room is not very big then F12 should be fantastic!
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks Nemo Propaganda, your reply was definitely clear and very helpful. Your reviews are great and more in line with what average music lovers would buy/ can afford to buy.
She many channels show off audio that's great to drool over, but it isn't affordable to us common foods lk. Lol.
Please keep up the great work.
@@anthonymiriello5029 thank you brother, I appreciate it.
@@NemoPropaganda Hey I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on ordering my sub. Really thinking about doing the FVX-12. Mostly due to as you said ( the low end exaggeration, hahaha) Really like the look/ size of the F-12 but concerned it won't have enough dynamics and slam as the FVX-12. Your video on that sub kind of etched into my brain.
@@anthonymiriello5029 Do it!!! If you can fit the size it's one of my favorite subs. It's just really good at everything.
Running dual G25HPs....and man...I don't even know what to say. I have owned them 2x now in the last 4 years. I thought I could find something I liked better, but I came back to them after buying 10-12 other subs in the last few years. They are that good, music and movies just sound better.
woo those are big boys!!!
The funny thing is that the both of you guys are literally the reason I bought dual E15HP2s. I mentioned both of you in my purchase order. They get delivered next week. Vinny I watched your videos and read your comments on AVS forums. I don’t have the space for G25s, but Enrico said dual E15HP2s are virtually the same as a single G25 in terms of sound quality and output.
Yowza that’s a set up! So sick
@@deankim6687 how are you liking the E15hp2's for HT? That's what I am considering.
@Professor5180 I have an e15hp2 in my home theater. It is wonderful! My room is 15x12 with 12' ceilings and it gets down! I will be buying another asap, just so I can get louder but don't need it
2 of those ideal for apartment in 4 th floor block :DD
yes, your neighbors will love you! :)
Nice review thanks to your brilliance. Please if you don't mind bro. could you add a bit bright light to this room?
Cheers
Were you crossing this over at the typical 80Hz?
Great review man. You've got me itching to try Rhythmik
nah that's a little high IMO. 60hz with my Aria and 40hz with my S400.
Can I get on your opinion? Would you recommend a pair of JL audio fathom v113 v2’s or rythmik g25hps or rythmik f18s? My room is 20’x 17’ and will be used as a dedicated home theater room.
Of those 3 options i have only heard the F18 and G25. If it were me and it was a dedicated theater for sure I'd go for the dual F18 because I like the size/shape over the G25. The JL F113 i'm sure is also a great option if you are more restricted on space and don't mind giving up some extension.
Love the 15HP2 but I might have to sue you for not warning me about structural damage.😂 I was coming from a very old REL 12” and never knew how many things in my house could rattle. The pantry door was one of the big offenders but then I found that my fireplace chimney conduit is rattling like crazy. Well, was thinking about replacing the fireplace anyway. When certain notes are hit it sounds like every picture frame and door is rattling. It’s going to take me a lot of time to make the house compatible with this puppy. It does sound really good otherwise. I bought it from your recommendation and I’m glad I did. Thanks for the review.
ahahaha, easy solution man, just build a new house :)
@@NemoPropaganda 😅
I think a point was trying to be made here.....hmmmm? Well done your channel!
Great review! Get it! Use all the money you get from making CZcams videos:) You didn't say if this a SPL subwoofer? I have a SVS SB3000 and looking to upgrade to the next level sealed sub. Music only system, large open space. Looking at the SVS SB16, how would they compare? You also didn't mention how this would compare to the larger Arendal.
My channel operates at a loss so there is no youtube money for me lol. I don't have much experience with the SB16 so I can't comment. The Arendal is great but for US customers E15 is simply the best. All Rythmik subs are capable of substantial extension/SPL but have an SQ presentation so they are all SQ subs.
absolutely love your reviews. Would love your advice. Room is 19x14x9. currently have 4 B&W CTSW12, powered by 2 CTSA1000 amps. 2 hang above the seating area, 2 are in a cabinet in the front. But I just got DIRAC live bass for my Arcam receiver and need 4 discreet subwoofers. I was either 1. buy 2 more B&W 1,000 w amps (but they don't go that low). or replace the front 2 subwoofers, and keep the rear 2 each running their own amp. My limitation is size of the cabinet, 18" wide, 18.5" deep 28" high. Do you know if the E15 amp can be rack mounted away from the subwoofer? My rack is upstairs 45 ft away, so this would be the easiest and I don't have enough depth for any breathing room behind the sub. Would you do 2 F12SE up front? or try to figure out how to get 2 E15's up front with a custom cabinet? SVS SB3000 should fit, KEF KF92 would fit (but dual firing, the subs would be firing against the cabinet doors). I can get 2 18" deep sea subwoofers custom built to fit as well ($5,700). Budget is ideally closer to $4k but would go higher. Just want the absolute best theater sound given some of my constraints of the cabinet. since it's already wired to have a remote amp I'd prefer that, otherwise I gotta hire someone to run 2 45ft rca cable which isn't the end of the world. all my other speakers are B&W diamond series in walls.
multi channel systems are not my area of expertise, it looks like the guys in the discord with experience in that arena are helping you :)
Hey Nemo, would you go with 2 Emotiva RS11s or one E15HP for a 2 channel music only system? They are roughly the same cost. I’m not sure if the benefits of dual subs would out weigh the quality of the Rythmik.
single e15 all day long would be my choice.
I bought the E15HP2. Can't wait.
hell yeah brother! Excellent choice!
Proud owner of dual Rythmik F18s and yep they are that good!
oh hell yeah brother, that's awesome!!!!! My buddy down the street has dual F18's, they're incredible!! Feel free to join the free discord if you want to share some pictures or anything: discord.gg/nemopropaganda
I'd like to see a review for the fvx15 if u ever get your hands on it seems like a beast subwoofer !
a user in my discord has one if you want his opinion, I'm not sure I'd check it out simply due to the size.
I absolutely love my F18s, but holy shit their website looks like a high school coding project. If they updated that and made it clean and modern I think people would be more inclined to check them out. Perception is reality and if you don't have a great website it definitely limits your success, even if the product is amazing.
yes, and get some nice renders made up for each product.
When I bought my pair, it took a while for the order. I'm kind of glad they're just making quality products that don't have a year long wait.
Thanks!
aye! thank you sir!
@nemo Great review. Love your videos! Would love your advice on my situation.. I have been researching various Subs. Tried REL, SVS sealed as well as ported. I would like to go for 4 subs in 4 corners. My room is 19x14x8. 70% Movies, 30% Music. My Anthem AVM 70 is coming tomorrow (excited!!). I am comfortable with REW; have miniDSP HD. I somehow didn't like ported ones.. and since I am going with 4 subs, don't really need extra output of ported equivalents. So want to go Sealed that do a good job at movies.. hence just ordered 2 REL 1508 Predators for the fronts.
For the rear ones, I was going to go with SVS SB 3000s. But now contemplating either Rythmik E22 or E15HP2. E22 is termed as hybrid sub where as E15 geared towards Music (?). Any advice on my approach of 4 sealed? And any recommendations on Rythmik E22 , E15 models or SVS SB 3000? Thanks in advance! Update: Just watched your vid of FVX12. Although ported, maybe that's also a contender??
When a large sub such as the E15 is advertised as good for music that does not mean it's not also great for HT. It means it's so good it can also be used for music which is far more demanding of fidelity than HT is. I have not heard the predator or E22 so it's really hard for me to comment here but I believe those are all fantastic options. I'd start with the pair of predators and see how you like them and for OCD sake I'd just add a pair of HT-1205 at the rear. I don't see any reason to mix brands in this scenario but if you're looking for extremely strong tactile bass of course the larger & more powerful SB3000 will give you even more of that.
Hey Nemo great videos! Would you say the E15/F12 decision is similar to the T9x vs T7x decision where it’s mostly room size dependent. Thanks!
that's a logical assumption but in this case no. The E15hp2 builds on the F12SE in every way, same fidelity but more effortless, better at lower volumes, larger sense of scale, more extension, more force, the list goes on. If your room won't look silly with the larger E15hp2 I say go for it! If it's too big then go for the F12SE which is still absolutely outstanding. Rythmik is crazy good at making a large sub without any of the downsides large subs usually have so as you move up to their larger models you're not really giving up anything. Technically the smaller subs can be crossed over a a few hertz higher but I feel that's a moot point.
@@NemoPropaganda Trying to decide between F12 and E15 for music only. 15 inch cones are usually slower than 12 inch, so from that sense F12 gotta be better for music?
@@maheeinfy13it’s like you didn’t even read the comment you’re replying to. This makes no sense. My answer is literally the comment you replied to.
I love your reviews. The more I watch the more I see you and I have the same philosophy and goals with sound. Question on this unit: How does it compare to the REL Predator 1510?? Same power and driver size, both in sealed cabinets. Do tell!
The E15 follows the same trend as most rythmik subwoofers being highly composed, staying in the background, enhancing the experience with incredible note to note distinction, fidelity, and extension. Conversely the Predator 1510 shares many of the same characteristics as both brands are obsessive with bass fidelity however the primary difference is the where the E15 is producing bass from an ink black background the Predator is a touch more aggressive with its bass delivery. If you want the ultimate SQ experience the E15 is like a bigger and more powerful version of the REL T9X sound where the Predator 1510 is more for people that might find those subwoofers a touch too composed and want there bass to be a little more noticeable. Either one is right at home in a music or theater system. As far as quatifiable differences the E15hp2 does offer up more extension.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the quick response! I've had two REL t9s in my system for a few years and love them, but for theater use they don't have much attack. I'm not willing to give up fidelity though, under any circumstances lol, so I can't deal with SVS type subs. I think the Rythmik, offering deeper extension, sounds like an ideal choice for my needs (from everything you've shared). Thanks for the awesome reviews!
@@robertholcomb5450 I think that will sound great together. I did a mini version of that and setup a pair of T5X and a Rythmik F12 and the two brands played very well together.
Hey Nemo, thank you for this review. Assuming a 100% two-channel system - would you ultimately opt for the E15 or the T9/x provided no space and/or aesthetic considerations? Same question but assume a mixed 80% music / 20% movie use. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
I would make that decision based on room size. I find both subs to be rather attractive and love the sound of both. Of course the substantially larger 15" will play louder and lower by a wide margin.
Hey Nemo, thank you for this feedback. I am taking the plunge with the E15HP2. Does the matte black finish look cheap relative to the black gloss? I would sooner save $170 but this sub will be in my living room and visible. Any guidance/thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
@@rockp5396 mmm, it depends how the rest of your room looks. Personally I will always rather pay extra to have the nice painted finish. Matte doesn't look cheap but it certainly does not look as nice as the painted gloss finish. Best way I can say it matte looks good, gloss looks beautiful.
Looking at getting this or the Monoprice 16" Ultra THX. No idea what I should do. It'll be mostly for watching movies in my dedicated home theater room.
The Monoprice 16 is a large ported sub that's $2000, for that money in a dedicated theater I would easily take any of these instead: Rythmik E15hp, FVX15, FV15HP, F18, all of which are cheaper, better, and have an optional piano gloss finish. If you just want loud monoprice will do that, if you want loud with excellent sound quality that's what Rythmik is for. Rythmik makes the best ported subwoofers in the world, get an FV15hp, you won't regret it.
From one Captian to another, not sure if you mentioned this in the video, but did you like it?😂🤣. Thanks for the video, but I went ahead and ordered something else before this dropped 😞.
The one sub that will give this sub a real good run for it's money is the REL Predator. I've had Rythmik, SVS, PSA, HSU, and more. The only weakness for me is extension but it is phenomenal in every other category. I also really love that it has no extension setting, no Q or damping setting, etc. and it just sounds great right out of the box.
@Slickman, what you say is true about the Predator. It sounds good out of the box. I don't mind sacrificing the deep extension for the performance it offers.
I got 2 REL HT1508S for $999 each, the new pricing is scary. I was trying to get 2 Rhythmiks but the REL pricing at the time made it a no brainer for 2 RELs... The upside they are both great!
@@whocares0503 , agree the new prices have shot up.
@@whocares0503 hey, where did you get 1508 for $990? Aren't they $1399 right now? Or was it open box or refurbished? Thanks in advance!
@@PrasGanapule Adorama had them on sale a few times at that price. I bought them on July 30th 2021. The price was $999, not $990, just looked at my receipt. I am going to guess with all those price hikes you are not likely see that again in the near future. 😞
This is the one I may have to pickup I remember when you mentioned it to me before and recommended it I don’t think I need a 18 inch sub and this especially in duals would be plenty and it’s rms is more than the f18
do it do it do it! :)
Hey Nemo, does the PEQ on the amp allow you to adjust the gain on more than just one frequency? I know there’s the bandwidth adjustment, but it looks like the knobs only allow for one setting.
correct, it's a 1 band PEQ.
@@NemoPropaganda I guess if you have bass management, like Dirac, it’s not a big issue.
@@deankim6687 I've never felt the need to use the PEQ, Rythmik says it's for correcting room problems so maybe I just don't have any problems.
Have you tried the Rythmik FM8? I’m trying to decide between this and a REL T9x
I considered reviewing it but felt it was too niche and the similarly priced F12SE would be preferred by most customers. I did a comparison of the T9X and F12SE in the T9X review if you want to see that.
Nice!!😳Are you sure 1000 watts RMS? Wow I didn't realize that! Sounds like the sweet spot in the Rythmik line up if you can accommodate. I always appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience
Ya! Since it uses a smaller cabinet than the F15 it needs 400w more to have equivalent SPL capability.
@@NemoPropaganda I bet that amp doesn't have to work very hard to push that driver. Maybe partly why it sounds so effortless
@@joshdekubber3631 I won't even pretend to understand what parts of design contribute to that but man is it good!
@@NemoPropaganda I'm Intrigued to say the least!
Nemo, someone in a forum said that it’s better to go Rythmik ported instead of sealed, in the same line, because the little bit you lose in accuracy will be made up 10 fold in output. What are your thoughts? Also, did your FVX12 have a lot more output than than the E15HP2?
E15hp2 has more output than the FVX12. While the FVX12 is physically a bit larger it is a 12" vs a 15" on the E15hp2. What that guy on the forum was saying was most likely for the same size subwoofer. Like yes for sure the FVX15 has more output than the E15hp2. Personally I love Rythmik ported subs as they are the best I have ever heard but ported subs are larger. If you can fit them for sure go for it, you will not regret it but the sealed versions still offer absolutely amazing performance in a much smaller package. Either way you're winning.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks Nemo!
Hey Nemo, trying to upgrade my T/9x not so much in terms of output but I can’t help but think the difference between -6db at 27hz and -2db at 14 hz leaves a lot of information out when my music has LFE type effects (soundtracks etc.) I know the F12 goes low but I believe you commented the T Series was possibly more dynamic (which I want) but I’m thinking the E15 improves upon that from the F12, not just in terms of overall output. Is there anything with the E15 that I will sit back and think huh, the T/9x was a little better at this or that? I know you said it’s basically the best thing you’d ever heard, but I want to make sure there are no surprises if you will. Thanks as always- keep up the great work!
That's a tough question to answer, the F12 is badass, it's plenty dynamic on it's own and at that absolute limits of output it's actually more dynamic than the T9X so how loud you listen is also a factor. I think you're at the stage where you just have to order and try it out in your home. The E15hp2 and the T9X are both god tier subwoofers in terms of bass fidelity. The larger E15hp2 kicks that up tremendously with it's output potential, sense of scale, and extension that the smaller T9X can't be expected to match.
@@NemoPropaganda Figured as much, thanks for confirming. As an aside, if you ever feel like selling one of your extra subs I bet there would be people who would find a Nemo signed sub to be fun memorabilia. Just a thought
@@kevinthorpe5945 oh no no, I'm not that important :)
A goood sub for all my neighbourhood,, ))))🥰🥰🥰((((
Want one baaad, but I guess I had to sell both my kidneys to afford one here in Europe,, 😥.
Anyhoo Nemo,, cheers and thanks for all your work, straightshooting, no nonsening,, 🍻😎👍❤️
Kidney prices are up right now, I think 1 will get the job done :D
@@NemoPropaganda I cant find a Rythmic retailer here in Scandinavia, so I guess I can keep my inner organs intact,, 😅👍
@@IrenESorius ahaha, yeah sadly it's mostly only available in US.
😂😂😂
Hey what’s up man? This E15 is on my hot list along with the F12. I’m looking to replace a 26 year velodyne fsr15 which I think sounds good but has some minor issues. Do you think I’m missing much? Is there a huge delta between the 3 subwoofers?
the F12 is among the best 12" subwoofers you can buy however the larger E15 will have a much fuller sound and a much larger sense of scale and a more effortless presentation simply due to the larger size and will not give up any speed or transient response. As far as versus an old Velodyne, the E15 should be a very big upgrade. Grab the E15hp2 and don't even look back. Conversly the F15 should be identical and offer up .5dB more headroom
@@NemoPropaganda my man!
@@surge1604 feel free to join the free discord and let us know how it goes: Discord Link: discord.gg/3PkFQf4y6Z we can also help you with setup tips if you need it.
Well done demo/video straight foward honest opinion,
I would like X2 off the 900w and did you say that they do a 1000w E15HP2.
Question: is it 600W or 900W for defo? UK
Hi bro, sorry for the confusion, regular E15 is 600w while hp2 model is 900w.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks dude 👍🏼👊🏼. UK 🏴
So you liked it? lmao. I have no clue which connection method would give me the best results for music or what to set all of the controls on these subs to either. I am a novice and am intimidated by all of the various options on this brand but would love a video on the various ways to connect them and what each does as well as the controls. These sound great if you know what you are doing already. I have stayed away from this brand only for those reasons as I would not want to damage it due to user error.
hey Mike, I kind of already did: czcams.com/video/aZbzvanu3vA/video.html
How would these function for home theater only
extremely well, one of the best options period.
when are you reviewing the new REL HT/1205 MKII?
I don't know, I'm still listening to them.
Coming from a svs pb-1000 10 inch would the e15/e15hp2 or the fvx12 have stronger 20-30hz bass thanks…
Hi Seeker, either one will be a huge upgrade for you, the E15hp2 will have a little more output in that region than the FVX12.
@@NemoPropaganda ok thanks
its tactile sub so what about rel 1510 witch one is better
Nemo, did you find that the 15" sounds deeper than the 12's? I'm not talking about extension here though. I've found during my testing of many different subs that the larger ones have a deeper tone to them. People on AVSForum will shoot it down saying "a 30hz tone is a 30hz tone, should always sound the same" but in my testing that's not the case. I would also say in my opinion 15" is the perfect sweet spot for speed, tightness and sounding deep.
I know exactly what you are referring to and yes. In fact when I say the word deeper I am usually referring to your definition of it and not simply extension. The F12 still has plenty of that, much more than your average 12 but the larger E15 steps it up for sure.
@@NemoPropaganda Nice, and for me it's like once I heard that deeper tone it's hard to go back to smaller subs. LOL
AVSForum is a terrible place for subwoofer advice.
@@JPWinters I agree, they write off REL completely which to me is a huge mistake. They say REL only sounds tight because it doesn't extend real low which is not true. I had many other subs and for instance with HSU ULS I could put a DSP on it and take away some extension and get it to read exactly like the REL on a frequency response chart and it still didn't sound like the REL. In fact no matter what settings I tried for Q, Extension, and DSP I could never get the HSU 15" to sound as good as the Predator even though I could get it to measure identically.
@@Slickman2006 I agree, it gets no love on AVS but it sounds incredible tonally with music and yet equally powerful with movies. The predator is my favorite sub. I have dual Monolith 15’s in the movie room and I honestly felt I was only missing the lowest frequencies when I tried it in that room.
I had the SB3000 Pro; it was loud and powerful but tonally i was very UNDERwhelmed.
Also curious if you know any background on the company and how they make such quality subs. May be a visit to their factory is in order
Maybe the cabinets are made out of crushed dinosaur bones or something, makes no difference to me. I don't care about the how, only the real world performance.
Would you consider the 55-80hz region of this sub punchy and tight? Would it be better to get towers to handle that region and cross over at 55hz?
final crossover point will always be different based on the room & speakers. This 15 in particular has an incredibly good 50-80hz range though I always find myself preferring a crossover around 40-60hz in my room depending on what speakers are connected.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks Nemo
How does it perform with hometheatre given that it's sealed?
most commercial theaters use sealed subwoofers, I don't understand the context of this question or why there is any concern with a nearly 100lb subwoofers output capability in any environment.
Could you review KEF Kube 12b subwoofer?
Hi Joe, next KEF subwoofer reviewed will be the KF92, I have been really impressed with their subwoofers so far so I will for sure review more in the future :)
Actually want to buy two of these for movies only. They would replace one PB13 Ultra. They should have the body slam my G22's (music only) don't have but my PB13 does. For me it's a question of tighter more articulate base for the soundtrack rather than the slopier, boomier base of the ported. (not that I care as much for perfect sound for movies)
Can't wait for your G22 review... please make a comparison to the 15 inch.
Hey James, I will make the comparison for sure!
Side question: for home theater use with multiple subwoofers, is it advantageous to have the same subwoofers, or is mixing and matching acceptable?
I think mixing to some degree is okay as long as you stay with the same brand. Like a pair of REL 1510 up front and a 1 T7X on the center channel or 2 SVS PB16 up front and 2 SB3000 in the rear.
Is there anything the new Rel predator can do that this can’t? Seems like for the same money and almost the same power this is a clear winner, unless I missed something you mentioned the Rel doing better. Thanks!
here is a clip from my discord, it summarizes all my thoughts between the two subs and I don't have anything additional to say on the topic aside fromthis: Predator 1510 vs Rythmik E15hp2: I think it's important to keep in mind Rythmik is only available in a few countries while REL is available globally so if Rythmik is not available in your region just buy the 1510. The E15hp2 has a few options including a painted finish and has a narrower look while the 1510 comes in vinyl (with a painted top) and is much wider but looks much shorter in the room. As far as bass quantity these are both bigger subs and both capable of tremendous output however the Rythmik does extend a few hertz lower. As far as sound goes the Rythmik is the classic SQ subwoofer with audiophile bass that comes from an ink black background, bass that never draws attention to itself, and excellent handling of delicate passages. Rythmik is a great example of how going manufacturer direct can get you more bang for your buck (for US customers at least). The 1510 is also very capable of many of these SQ characteristics with the primary difference being a tone that is a touch heavier than the Rythmik. The 1510 doesn't draw attention to itself but it's bass is heavier handed (kind of like JL though nowhere near as heavy handed) and your attention may be drawn to the bass region of the movie or music in a way that makes you go "holy shit". Both subwoofers blend seamlessly and integrate perfectly. In short the E15hp2 is SQ 100% while the Predator 1510 is 95% SQ with 5% of that SPL style heaviness. For context if JL Audio is a 10 on a 1-10 scale of SPL heaviness and Rythmik is 1 out of 10 on that scale of SPL heaviness the Predator 1510 is like 3 out of 10 for SPL heaviness. Personal taste will be a big factor here. Both subwoofers are non-DSP purist pieces so no surprise I love the hell out of both of them.
It sounds like you have quite a collection of subs that you bought with your own money. If the E15HP2 was available before you bought the others and money wasn't an issue do you regret buying all the REL's.KEF92, and FVX12? I too have a lot of audio gear that certain pieces just make all the rest obsolete.
Sooo, most of what you mentioned are review samples but I get what you mean. The answer is mostly no from a technical standpoint but from a personal taste perspective of course I personally like some gear more than others and I will always have a Rythmik and a REL because they both fit my personal taste but the strong attack of JL Audio or SVS will always impress me, the crazy extension of the small KEF KF92 will always impress me, and the price to performance ratio of the RSL Speedwoofer will always impress me. So no it doesn't make gear obsolete. As far as a feeling of regret that's just not an emotion I feel too often. I can't remember the last time I felt regret towards anything. My father died when I was in my 20's and I do regret that sometimes I suppose, it would be cool to sometimes shoot the shit with him even though he was kind of an ass. I regret not having the opportunity to build a relationship with him as a grown man but that's out of my hands so I don't really think of it too often. Longer answer than you hoped for perhaps but the answer is no, I don't regret any of this. I view every purchase as a learning opportunity about my personal taste and the price of the gear is the price of learning more about myself if that makes sense.
How does it stack up to HSU VTF-3 MK5?
I don't know, I have not heard hsu but the VTF3 is a ported sub so it'll most likely have boosted bass around it's port tuning frequency and a softer attack to it's leading edges and an inferior midbass region.
Would one of these be ample for a 15x16 room? Currently have 1 Speedwoofer 10s and debating on adding another or doing 1 larger sub that has similar dynamics and not too much bigger.
This would be a serious step up from a speedwoofer. It'd be like going from a Carolla to a Ford Mustang GT.
@@NemoPropaganda Nice! Do you think 2x speedwoofers (800w rms combined) be close to one of the E15's? Just trying to weigh price/perf and room balance (2 being more balanced).
@@sirjared21 I don't know which option will play louder but the single E15 will sound better and extend lower while playing plenty loud. If you're happy with the bass quality and extension you have but have poor bass distribution in various seats then sure grab a second sub but if you're looking for more extension and SQ the E15 will be the easy choice.
@@NemoPropaganda I see. Sounds like it's better to get the e15 since another 10s would just be more of the same sound (even with 2 they both still wouldn't reach as low as the e15).
@@sirjared21 yeah that's pretty much my thinking also.
Thanks for the video , been thinking about purchasing 2 of these for my HT. How would 2 of these integrate with 2 SVS SB3000s? For a total of 4 subs. Only watch movies.
what's up Jason, okay, hear me out bro, just an idea, if it's a dedicated theater and you're going for 4 subs that won't match why not just sell the SB3000 pair and upgrade to a pair of F18? Anywho to answer your question I'm not a fan of mixing the different brands of subwoofers and I generally don't recommended it but some who are very experienced in audio setup can make it work.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the input, I have a minidsp and can time align, just didn’t know how a sealed SVS 13.5” sub would intergrate with a 15” servo sub. Was gonna put the SVS behind my chairs and the 2 rythmik in the front. Trying to get a sub that’s small enough to fit under my screen but also digs deeper than the SVS.
@@jasonpipkin8060 Honestly bro I say just experiment and see what happens :). Best case you get it dialed and it's awesome, worse case you sell the 3000 pair and you have a little more cash in your pocket while still having upgraded to larger 15" subs. It's kind of win win all around :).
Thinking of going for the ported version of this sub. Im trying to find the best sub for music and movies. My thought process is that because of the servo tech, the abilty to set the dampening on high or low and having the ability to plug the ports... it may be the best option Ive seen for a dual duty sub. I also think the 15" driver size is better suited for music accuracy than an 18". Having heard both ported and sealed Rythmiks, would you agree with this conclusion? I just dont want to miss out on anything in the music department going with a ported design.
Vented Rythmik subs are the best vented subs I have ever heard if sound quality is among your top concerns. As far as sealed or ventedm technically their sealed subs are more accurate but the vented ones sound so darn good that I prefer the vented ones. One of my main subs is the FVX12 despite also owning the F12. Go vented if you have the space, you won't regret it :)
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the reply Nemo. Really like your review style.
For what it’s worth, Brian, the owner of Rythmik, told me their vented 15” at high damping is like the sealed at the medium damping setting.
@@deankim6687 Thanks for the feedback. Thats good to know.
@@synth505 And I just remembered, he also mentioned something to the effect of, plugging the ports doesn’t really do anything for sound quality or make it sound like the sealed version because you’re not reducing the size of the cabinet. He said you’re just reducing the efficiency gains of the ported sub. Interestingly, everyone on CZcams generally says plugging the port makes the bass tighter, so maybe I’m not doing a good job remembering exactly what Brian said.
Thoughts on the 600w E15?
A killer option for tbose who don’t need the extra output of the hp2 model. But you can also just get the F15hp. Rythmik can tell you more about the nuance differences.
I wish I had the space for Rythmiks. Wish I would've gotten into audio before I bought my house.
If width is an issue Arendal 1723 1S is fairly narrow and has a 13.8" driver!
Any thoughts on E15HP2 vs Predator 1510?
I posted this in the discord awhile ago: Predator 1510 vs Rythmik E15hp2: I think it's important to keep in mind Rythmik is only available in a few countries while REL is available globally so if Rythmik is not available in your region just buy the 1510. The E15hp2 has a few options including a painted finish and has a narrower look while the 1510 comes in vinyl (with a painted top) and is much wider but looks much shorter in the room. As far as bass quantity these are both bigger subs and both capable of tremendous output however the Rythmik does extend a few hertz lower. As far as sound goes the Rythmik is the classic SQ subwoofer with audiophile bass that comes from an ink black background, bass that never draws attention to itself, and excellent handling of delicate passages. Rythmik is a great example of how going manufacturer direct can get you more bang for your buck (for US customers at least). The 1510 is also very capable of many of these SQ characteristics with the primary difference being a tone that is a touch heavier than the Rythmik. The 1510 doesn't draw attention to itself but it's bass is heavier handed (kind of like JL though nowhere near as heavy handed) and your attention may be drawn to the bass region of the movie or music in a way that makes you go "holy shit". Both subwoofers blend seamlessly and integrate perfectly. In short the E15hp2 is SQ 100% while the Predator 1510 is 95% SQ with 5% of that SPL style heaviness. For context if JL Audio is a 10 on a 1-10 scale of SPL heaviness and Rythmik is 1 out of 10 on that scale of SPL heaviness the Predator 1510 is like 3 out of 10 for SPL heaviness. Personal taste will be a big factor here. Both subwoofers are non-DSP purist pieces so no surprise I love the hell out of both of them.
Hello sir what about fv15 or e15
Every single Rythmik subwoofer is amazing.
#first. Let’s go…😎
when are you going to review Perlistein D12S?
I don't have any plans to review Perlistein products at this time.
Hey can you review the Rythmik F18.
maybe one day, it's pretty big & heavy so timing would have to be perfect.
would one G22 be better than two lv12m's?
I'm not sure, you should reach out to Rythmik and see what they say about it, they are out of town right now so response time may be slower than usual.