Rythmik G22 Subwoofer Review. 12", Dual Opposed, Surgical Precision, 14hz? Yes please!
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2022
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Rythmik G22: www.rythmikaudio.com/G22.html
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Speakers Used:
Buchardt S400 MKII: buchardtaudio.com/collections...
Focal Kanta No1: www.focal.com/us/high-fidelit...
Focal Aria 906: www.focal.com/us/high-fidelit...
Dynaudio Special 40: www.dynaudio.com/home-audio/s...
Preamp & Power Amplifiers
Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 mono blocks: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
Source: Bluesound Node 2i
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(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Denafrips Ares II or Venus2
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Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4
(rest in peace Kent)
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Interconnect Cables:
Analysis Plus Oval One RCA
Oyaide Tunami Terzo XX V2 XLR
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**Pinned Corrections & Additions**
I couldn't fit the Arendal 1723 1S comparison in this video so here we go, the 1723 1S is a very good subwoofer with a similar (not identical) presentation. I feel the Rythmik does everything a little bit better but it is also considerably larger so that is important to keep in mind. If you live in North America Rythmik subs are tough to beat if you're looking for an SQ style presentation that can still extend low and play loud at a reasonable price. If you live in a region where Rythmik is not available the Arendal 1723 1S is a fantastic alternative and an excellent subwoofer in its own right.
thank you, i was wondering about that comparison.
i do not have enough experience with subwoofers to really name the type of sound i want, but precision sound about right for me, then add more subwoofers for more output, spl and fun.
How does the Rythmik E15hp2 stack against the Arendal 1723 2S? Im thinking the Rythmik would be better?
@@nodoubt1616 I never heard the 1723 2S, only the 1723 1S.
***Corrections & Updates***
1. I forgot to mention the Arendal 1723 1S comparison: This is an easy one, they are tonally very similar, the G22 is much larger & heavier. G22 will play louder and extend lower, G22 essentially takes the win overall and does everything a little bit better. With that said the Arendal 1723 1S is still an outstanding subwoofer and is the subwoofer I recommend if you live in a country where Rythmik is not available. I am NOT saying all Arendal subwoofers are tonally similar to Rythmik, just the 1723 1S and please keep in mind I am saying similar, not identical.
2. Regarding an SVS comparison: I made a whole video for that and it can be seen here: czcams.com/video/rEz03XkcslI/video.html
3. While I did not mention it in the video this subwoofer is also available in piano gloss black.
Ice and stretching for your (old) back pain. LOVE IT. Too freakin' good. Right there with you, man.
Thank you for the larger sub reviews! I have a 1508 predator and your comparisons are much appreciated. 🙏
Nice bro!! I never heard the 1508 but I've owned the smaller 1205 for a few years now and it's really great!
Great review! Loving my rythmik and loving this company more and more. Deserve more praise 👍🏼
Couldn't agree more!
Awesome to see a review of this sub!
Love this channel favorite channel I discovered in 2022 and it is my channel of the year. Will join the discord soon.
I just got my g22 yesterday. Thanks for your review Nemo!
hell yeah brother! Are you in the free discord? discord.gg/nemopropaganda you should post some pics!
The opening minutes of Bladerunner 2049 is a bass heavy sequences that the SVS PB16 ULTRA played low. There is modulation in that sequence that I never heard with the PB16. Totally different experience with the Rythmik fv18 subwoofer. Everything Nemo Propaganda says is 💯 accurate about Rythmik.
I'm on the fence between a pair of FV15HP2s, or a fv18 or a FV25HP.
@@LichaelMewis I usually say two is better than one for optimizing bass more evenly across your theater/space. If you have the room for two and the budget for 2 I would go with the dual FV15HP2 subwoofers.
@@keepingupwiththejones2933 Would you recommend going with dual 15' ported from Rythmik? Was thinking of dual 15 ported in front and the FVX12 for the rear.
I had a dual opposed 12. Forget fish tank, you can put an upright quarter on top with the drivers just hammering in and out, quarter just sits there.
Energy loss is the achilles heel of any subwoofer and a dual opposed implementation is a wonderful design.
As always I appreciate your wealth of knowledge!!
Thanks Nemo for another great review. I have a pair of G22s in my living room system and I love their sound with music and movies. In my bedroom I have a pair of E22s and while both models have the same components, the E22 produce much more tactile response compared to the G22 so if the main use is movies, E22 would be the way to go but if music is your thing, then the G22 is the best subwoofer you can get from our sealed subwoofers offerings.
Hi Enrico!! So cool to see you comment & active on here. When a product is this good, it makes the review very easy, so thank you for making a fantastic subwoofer!
@enrico what are your opinions on the G25HP? Do you have those? Why did you choose the g22 over g25 hp? Thanks 🙏🏼
@Novilicious half the price maybe?
What's up Nemo!!! Amazing video and nice mic. Thanks for an amazing review. I am 3 weeks out and will have a few update pics this weekend. These are a contender for my space. I am still in a debate whether to get 2 or 4 subs. 15" x2 or 12" x4. Glad you do these videos for the community.
That sounds exciting! Hopefully you've got the subs narrowed down.
Crank some TRL with that bad boy hooked up. As a Rythmik owner I love that you've been the channel shining light on the brand. More people need to be converted
Great Review Nemo! Another comparable sub would be Power Sound Audio (PSA) S2410 (purchased for my dual purpose HT/Music 12X12 room). PSA offers a smaller footprint, but same dual opposing sealed 12" woofers design. Amazing SQ sound and wish more people would look at this brand as well.
I tried bro, I emailed them asking about this speific model and they never replied.
That model has interested me in the past as well. Frank what other subs have you compared it to?
@@JPWinters Compared it with smaller footprint models from Arendal (1961), JL Audio (d110), and Rythmik. The PSA provided the best performance/options at my budget. Looking to add a 2nd sub to help even out nulls.
The advantage of this dual opposed design is you can sell it to the partner as a plant stand 🤣
i'm not opposed to the opposition. i've got a pair of opposed subs myself. nice review!
Love your 'The Price is Right mic. Classic
thank you bro.
just ordered FV15HP2, cant wait to hear it
hell yeah brother, excellent choice! if you're in the free discord please post some pics when you get it!! :)
I'm sure they're terrific! Nice review. Personally, I use Magnepan LRSs with a MiniDSP SHD, which I use as a crossover, as well as Dirac Live 3. I built 2 open baffle subs using FI Audio 18" woofers, ones designed for infinite baffle use. Before cutting into my floor, I made Dipole.....mounting frames? Anyway, I was worried that I'd lose a lot of low bass from cancellation, but there's plenty of 20hz output. The subs combined wonderfully with the fast-sounding (i.e. few resonances) Maggies. For my use, I don't feel any need to build an infinite baffle in the floor. It's great that there's so many options for getting great bass these days! If I didn't have dipole speakers, I'd get a Rythmik sub.
oh man that sounds like some epicly large subs you have! I've still not heard open baffle subs but I'm sure I will some day.
Nemo, new but HUGE fan. Love your review style. I think one of your videos you mentioned a place to talk about audio stuff with a group of people? Looking for a sub to replace my Paradigm servo 15” or add to till it dies and a DAC / Bluetooth to listen to my iPhone on my stereo. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Its the discord. Link is in the description my bro. Come on down.
These just came back in stock, and I can't wait for mine to show up so I can lug the sucker up to my apartment! Main reason for getting this over a different sub (or two) is the apartment part. I'll try to spare the neighbors at least a little frustration (and myself an eviction).
I do have a hard time understanding all of the talk about "tactile" feel because ultimately I feel like an effectively pressurized space should still give me a satisfactory thump in my chest, not necessarily shake the everloving crap out of the structure, but I guess I'll find out the difference soon enough.
You gave me a lot of confidence in the brand's quality, though. Fingers crossed it'll be a good fit!
great choice, you will be pleased!
well what is your take as you should have it by now, does it supply the chest thump you hoped for? What is your overall take on it so far??
Love your reviews. Now I'm looking at Rythmik for a future buy. 👍😎
you will not regret it my bro!
Great review.
Same question I had re the 1510 REL- how does this compare to the Arendal 1763, especially as I believe they are comparably priced?
added a pinned comment for that.
Awesome review like always. Keep on coming... maybe next is MK subwoofer or KK subwoofer, as for now not many review yet about these subs.
I'll try and reach out to KK for that 8" model, the rest are too big lol
@@NemoPropaganda KK dxd 808, dual 8" is already discontinued few years ago I think. Now they have one model with a single 12 inch. And 2 model with dual 12 (push pull). Somehow they never update the website.
@@1psxpat oh man, I don't think I will review it then, I don't want to review anythign too heavy right now.
@@NemoPropaganda hahaha... don't worry about it. I agree with you, especially if you have to buy with your own money to review the sub, a big sub. If the company send you the sub for review that would be ok. I guess these company MK and KK do not send their product to reviewer. that is why not many review of their product online.
I love the fact that the HP2 linep and the Fv18s have the Hypex amplifiers. Hypex is the best class D amps on the market.
Yeah the most transparent class d amps.
I just got my SVS2000pro dialed in and am loving it, but I really am longing for the musicality of one of these rythmiks. Do you find that the blend is as seamless even without the app controls of the SVS?
your answers are here: czcams.com/video/rEz03XkcslI/video.html&ab_channel=NemoPropagandaReviews
Wow, I was just getting ready to pull the trigger on the Tekton 6-10 sub and saw this review. This is very impressive and well explained by you too! So thanks! Do you have any input or experience with using multiple drivers (like in the Tekton 6-10) vs the servo tech ? I’m looking for 100% musical sub to pair with magnapans 1.7’s. in a ~850 sq foot room
Any help would be appreciated. thanks 💯
I have not heard the Tekton subs unfortunately. The G22 is great, might be a little too extreme for your room though. How about the e15hp2?
Nice as always nemo
Do you think the PEQ on a sealed sub can be used to add some bump to the range where ported models like an FVX12 usually excel?
Or is an actual port something PEQ would struggle to replicate in terms of adding significant HT low end?
no it doesn't really work like that, just like plugging the port on a vented sub won't make it sound like a sealed sub. Most dsp sealed subs already have a a fairly strong boost in the low end (JL Audio, SVS, etc...) to make up for how small they are.
Something about dual subs right by the speakers just looks amazing, if I wasn’t loving that look so much I’d just buy one of these, sounds so sick!
So buy two of these…
I have a Martin Logan Depth, triple opposing 8" drivers, super precise and low extension. This review seems closest to the depth, besides the greater power. Curious on your thoughts
I wouldn't know man, I havn't heard that sub but I know ML has made some cool stuff over the years.
I had contacted Rythmik about the E22 and they suggested to wait until I hear your review of the G22. I am looking to pair two subs to combine with a pair of Klipsch La Scala II speakers using an NAD 33. My listening room is 18x18 with 12 foot ceiling. REL suggested a pair of 212 SX which is beyond my budget. Each corner where I would place the subs has a window on each side. I was concerned that this would affect the G22 more than the E22. I like the detail that sounds like it was cut out with a scalpel. REL said the 212 would get the base on the floor. I would be interested in your opinion between the G22 and E22.
hey whats up Buddy, I've never heard the E22 so I couldn't really say.
E22 looks awesome! I considered those before I got my pair of the Rel S510s. But honestly, go for Rythmik. They’re just cool looking and sound great!
Thanks for the great review! On a scale of 1-100, how would you score the G22 and the E15HP2, on precision alone? Just want to try to quantify “splitting hairs”.
that's a tough one because rating the E15hp2 anything below 100 just feels wrong. I don't think I can quantify it any further.
@@NemoPropaganda I can respect that.
One issue I have with such designs is you can't put them in a corner I assume, as you then have a driver up against a side wall. I also prefer the forward firing subs sound/feel wise.
You can place them anywhere in the room but corner loading generally will not sound the best unless you have a way to tune things. If you corner load something with a side firing driver you just want to give it a few inches of clearance. But either way Rythmik makes some awesome front firing subs too so you def have options.
What you think about fv18 subs which will be good for music and movies ported or sealed
I have not heard the FV18.
Awesome review had you reviewed this model prior to the E15hp2 it would definitely be in my home. I have not been disappointed my last 3 purchases (jbl 550p,kef kc62,and my favorite the rythmik. I love them all for what they do. Now I want the ported experience and I'm torn between the fv15hp and the monoprice 15 thx sub. I want one that will complement the sound of my e15 and on paper they are very similar. Any insight would be helpful.
oh nice dude!!! the kc62 is so awesome! expensive but really awesome. The monolith will have really heavy bass, if you like that give it a whirl but it'll be a very different sound where the bass continues to force itself to be the focal point of the presentation.
My only gripe with the kc62 is the lack of protection for the cones. The first day I got it I put it inside of a cabinet to conceal it. What happened next was a tragedy. When it fired up I heard a funny rattling noise. The rear facing cone was smashing against the power cord and put a few small dings in it😱. As far as subs I think I might be an SQ guy so the fv15hp will cover my needs. I like the fact that you can get a monolith for around 1100 dollars right now but I want a sound that will blend and not dominate thanks for your help.
@@samsneediii1793 oh man that's a bummer, the cone is magnesium so it's pretty hard to damage but as you know certainly not impossible.
It's actually pretty common when you get the chance look on eBay most of the ones for sale have cone damage. I was tempted to sell mine after it happened but it still sounds so damned good.
The real question is, do you digress though..... lol....
I was going to go with the FVX12, but dimensions wise this one I think is a tad smaller, It's going to start off in a small bedroom so probably way overkill but when in Rome, edit... going with fvx12 for that extra rumble.
I'm unable to audition these 2 in my country due to dealership (or lack of).. was wondering these would be a better match (compared with REL's HT1510 or 9T) for AMT bookshelf speakers like Elysians, or similar please? seeking speed and fine nuance
I have not heard Elysian but I had the Evo 4.2 and those had very strong bass already that was a smidgen heavy sounding. I felt any sub would pair well with them. As far as REL or Rythmik they are both really good. If it were me I would buy the subwoofer that best enhanced the beautiful look of the Elysian and in my opinion that is easily a pair of REL T9X. Of course this much larger Rythmik will extend lower and play louder (it is 102lbs!). Either way any of the subwoofer you are thinking about are all very good.
@@NemoPropaganda much appreciated!
Great job bro & your 100% right! 😎👍
I have the E22… Backstreet Boys, Limp Bizkit, Britney Spears and Korn sound killer with the big double bass maker
Hell ya brother! The nuance in my rythmik really enhances my Jonah's Brothers CDs..
NSYNC > Backstreet Boys
You're not living until you're cranking Miley Cyrus on that bad boy.
I'm just here to LOL at your music
Don't forget the all-time greats Nickelback
Hope you yet a chance to review a Perlisten R210s/212s or D212s/215s or the M&K Sound X12+ or X15+
M&K isn't really popular in the US and those Perlisten subs ship on a pallet, I don't have the space nor desire to accomodate a pallet only to repalletize the subwoofer 2 months later to ship it back. It's just too much of a headache.
Cool video! I know that it’s very much splitting hairs, but if you had to pair the Focal Aria 906, would you pair it with the G22 or the F15HP! Thanks :)
E/F 15 for sure. While both are fantastic subwoofers I prefer the visual look, shape, size, dimensions of the more standard looking front firing 15" over the G22. As far as sound goes both are world class but I still ever so slightly preferred the 15 and I'll admit part of that could have been psychological due to preferring its looks :)
@@NemoPropaganda very interesting - I’m glad I asked because I was leaning the other way!
@@danielpwagner you can't go wrong either way :)
The bass from this sub is TIGHT and ARTICULATE. It really is a beast. Bring a buddy to help you move it. Once you get it dialed in, it's a pure pleasure.
100% agree
Hey Nemo,
Question how do think this g22 would sound if placement in the rear corner of a room? I could potentially put it in the front under my screen I’m just wondering what your thoughts are? Or would say a ported rythmik be a better option for a corner as opposed to a sealed design. Also your channel is amazing keep up the great work man!
Hey bro, thank you for the kind words, I'm honestly not 100% sure on how much wall clearance dual opposed subs need, I'd ask Rythmik just to be on the safe side but if it's an issue just grab an E15hp2 instead. All Rythmiik subs are amazing, if it were me, for OCD's sake I'd grab the E15hp2 for corner placement or something like an FVX12 or FVX15 if you have the space.
@@NemoPropaganda
Awesome thanks man I appreciate it
@@chrisrichardson958 yee! feel free to join the free discord and let us know how it goes.
@@NemoPropaganda
Thanks I definitely will
Great discussion about G22 vs REL HT510 vs REL EH15HP2. My story, I am adding a 2 sub setup to replace my single M&K MX-350 subwoofer that has push pull drivers. GREAT Sub, but want a new setup with two identical units, and the old MX-350 is not made anymore. Have you hear the M&K much and can you make any comparisons for me before i blow $$ on two Rythmik prior to listening?
Hi Tauran, I have not heard M&K, their subwoofers are a bit large and more advertised for studio use so I find them a bit unactractive for a living room. For that reason I have decided to not cover them.
@@NemoPropaganda Not to bad in size for the new MK Sound 400w RMS X12. 17.7"W x 25.7H x 18.1D. When you compare to a G22 at 17"(W) x 19-3/4" (H )x 21-1/2"(D).
@@Espiritiv yeah that's too big for me bro, I don't want to review stuff that is 100 lbs or more, it's seriously difficult.
Unfortunately for me Rythmik doesn't make small subs. I just can't do large boxes in my room as well as aesthetics. For 2 channel they are an eyesore. So had to go for the KF92 and it does me well. Great review nonetheless!
KF92 are awesome!
Or Arendal 1723 2S!
Get a huge one and use it as a table. I have a gold table cloth and lamp on mine.
@@mcbowler that's actually a common way I've seen people setup the G25HP next to couch as an end table, same with the FV15.
Does it have a character to its sound? Some people don’t like sealed subs because its feels weird, vs ported
No, the sub is extremely neutral and precise.
Where are you located? I have a pair of FV15HPs you should review in Houston.
I appreciate that but those are way to heavy for me :). I'm souther california.
Bro, what cray cray is that they have a G25HP with dual opposed 15 that weighs 200 lbs (this one is 100 lbs). Kpspaceguy has a review on it. Thanks for yet another killa review. Love your microphone/age/back joke…I’m the same age as you and damn…I can relate 😂😂😂
I would be curious to see how this compares to the cheaper RSL 12s
each one is a leader in their price category.
Welp. I'm returning my G22.
I enjoyed your reviews, Nemo, and they got me excited to try great subs. But when you get one you can be faced with unforseen difficulties, especially if, like me, you are inexperienced.
I tried REW/miniDSP, and I also tried dialing in by ear using just the sub controls. I could never get the sub to blend perfectly, but when I got it close, the sub was barely filling in the lowest lows. Not to mention my room mode forced a choice between no sub (as it extended my speakers), bringing the room mode into balance with the mains, or bringing the surrounding frequencies into balance and letting the room mode stand out like a sore thumb. The PEQ does knock down the mode, but not perfectly, and what's left doesn't seem as clean. Room mode aside, the G22 added extension but when I turned it off the sub, the bass, although less in quantity, was cleaner. I decided that with all the difficulty and uncertainty, the budget could be invested in other areas of my system that could really use it.
Rythmik is incredibly reasonable with their return policy, though. I do have to say I'm grateful for the opportunity to try this nice of a sub, even if it wasn't a total win for my current situation.
Nemo, I hope you don't mind me leaving this comment here. The G22 probably is one of the best subs on Earth right now, just wanted to offer my two cents.
I don't mind people sharing their experience as long as there is context. Some rooms can be incredibly challenging, some speakers are incredibly challenging to pair with subs also. For example Elac B5.2 and Focal Kanta No1 are wildly different in price but both were extremely hard to blend with a subwoofer for some reason. If the room has major bass issues you may prefer a smaller sub that will be less likely to upset the room, something small like a REL T7X could be a better fit for your room but it may also be possible that you already have the quantity of bass you are happy with and any more then that will not be enjoyable. You tried something, it didn't work out, at least you tried :)
Maybe the bass configuration of your speakers could affect things too
@@RennieAsh it absolutely can.
@@NemoPropaganda, when I see men are showing off their speakers, plus one or two subwoofers, most of the time they are placed for esthetics, not sound quality.
Carson Daly says thanks for the shout out😅🤣
Comparison of this to the Kef KF92? I was pretty set on the KF92, but this cheaper and bigger and seems excellent.
From my Discord Server: I get this question a lot because the two are similar in price and feature dual opposed drivers but it's important to point out the massive size difference between the two with the G22 being substantially larger and weighing nearly 100lbs. The KF92 is an amazing subwoofer for any situation where a compact form factor AND extreme extension are the top priorities. Being so small and extending so low the KF92 will not have the headroom (maximum output) of larger subwoofers like the Rythmik G22, that's the trade off. The Rythmik G22 can do everything the KF92 can do and more. Being larger means it can extend as low and play those lower frequencies at much louder volumes and with a larger sense of scale. Rythmik note to note distinction, definition, and bass fidelity overall are a step up from the KF92 but this is more important for critical 2ch listening. In a theater setting the KF92's bass fidelity is still very good and you'd be hard pressed to find fault with it outside of its inability to play at neck breaking volumes in a large room. Will the KF92 have enough output for you personally? That's a tough question to answer but I can say with confience a single KF92 will have enough output for most people in a medium or smaller room and this is where in home trials can be very helpful if the small size is at the top of your prioirity list and your only concern is output. For those that know they are in that 10-20% of basshead extremists and size is not a concern then you should just go for the G22. Hope this explanation helps those of you that were stuck between the two.
Thanks! My concern was whether this Rythmic would be slower or have less extension than the Kef, but doesn't sound like that's the case. Think I'm gonna go with the Rythmic.
@@jjnewbold nope, it's the total opposite :)
My G22 should come Thursday, thanks for the advice!
This being my second subwoofer and the first that didn't come with a sound bar, break-in is definitely a thing. It was barely noticeable at first and I was freaking out, now this thing rattles my room. Lol
Should the drivers of the 22 be side to side or front to back
that's gonna be more a function of the room. I tried both ways and didn't have much of a difference but the sub is designed for the drivers to be side to side. If the driver is facing you then the cables will be visible.
Would you recommend 2 FV12 subs, or one G22?
2 fvx12 for sure!
Just bought a Rhythmic FV18. It is supposed to be delivered Monday. It will be replacing 2 x BIC PL300s.
oh man, you're in for a serious treat!
I wonder how these would compare vs a Perlisten sub. Not that I can really fit these big subs in my room properly
Perlisten cheapest dual 12" is $5000 so there is a huge price disparity here. I'd imagine a lot of that more money spent goes towards increasing overall output so the Perlisten can probably play alot louder and be pushed even harder.
@@NemoPropagandaA fair comparison might be 3 G22s vs the Perlisten. I’d be super interested in your review of perlisten. Maybe one day.
Have you ever tested XTZ subwoofers? Example Cinema 1x12
I tried, they did not respond to my emails.
@@NemoPropaganda It's sad. I am buying two subwoofers for a 35 square meter living room. 80/20 for movies. I would need a lot of authority for the 15-40hz range. Budget 2500e. I live in Finland so Rhytmik is not an option
@@janneseppala1116 it's pretty normal bro, my channel is small so I'm not surprised. I would give up on dual subs doing 15hz at that price point but you'll probably have good output down to 20hz.
Please, please when available, please review the G25HP dual opposed 15's. The baddest sub they make! Then compare it to other manufacturers bad boys as well as the G22 and 15HP2. Did I say please? Thanks!
No can do bro, that things is 185lbs bro 😱. I don’t review anything over 100 lbs. i made an exception on the G22 since it was 102 lbs :).
Please try and review BK's subwoofers. They're not a very well known brand but are uk based and built and owned by one of REL's founders. If they are as good as they seem, for the asking price, they're a huge bargain!
I was emailing with BK and when I told them I was a youtube reviewer they stopped responding. I sent 3 followup emails and still got no reply so I don't think I will be revieweing their subs unfortunately.
@@NemoPropaganda it's a shame. That doesn't inspire much confidence... almost no information and/ or reviews about a not so well known brand and on top of that it seems like they don't want reviews and publicity...😕
@@NemoPropaganda And, there's your sign…
“SQ” subwoofers are totally overlooked 😅
I tried numerous times, phone, emails. Crickets. Very poor customer service. Glad to hear you’re able to contact and talk to this vendor.
I think their website is more just to buy stuff, if you want more service you can reach out to their dealer Ascend Acoustics which should be more comunicative.
@@NemoPropaganda thank you. I decided to go with a different brand. Awaiting, delivery. Thanks for your help.
@@daveyurkovich9459 no problem man, what did you end up with?
@@NemoPropaganda I’m going to try the RSL.
@@daveyurkovich9459 oh cool, that's not really in the same ballpark but it is a lot cheaper and as good as you can get under $500.
Hey guys, which subs available in Europe is closest to precision and accuracy of Rythmik?
REL's new Predator 1510. I reviewed it here czcams.com/video/lxivkacEQ6A/video.html&ab_channel=NemoPropaganda
@@NemoPropaganda thank you
High level inputs?
Do you not have line outputs?
If they were only better looking. I’m thinking of selling my dual Fathom F113 but not loving the looks of some of these subs.
The shape of the G22 can be odd due to its height but many people use it as "end table" placement. If you want something better looking with substantial output consider the Rythmik E15hp2 with its gloss black option. I reviewed that also and I thought it looked stunningly good yet simple and clean and its a serious performer!
although i generally want as much precision as possible, i feel like, within the Rythmik line, i'd actually prefer a fatter sound signature than the system they themselves describe as their most precise (because let's be real, precise = dry)
eyeballing that E15 for my tiny half bedroom study
i want that FOOK ME bass
I hear ya, I personally prefer the E15hp2 for that reason. Ultimate precision is not something I'm personally hunting for but some people really love it and for those that do the G22 is as good as it gets.
@@NemoPropagandawelp, i went with dual F12Gs, more ambitious than my earlier plans.
honestly i feel like final plans should always be more ambitious 🤓
@@WeeWeeJumbo nice dude! I'm happy you got a pair of badass subs.
I have 2 Rythmik FV18 Rev2 paper cone subwoofers. I upgraded from an SVS PB16 ULTRA. Digs lower, more nuanced and articulated, significantly punchier in the mid bass. Bang for your buck I honestly don't think anyone can beat them, including JTR, PSA, HSU, SVS, etc.
Would you go G22 or FV18? Those are my choices now and its hard to make! I have a MK push pull sub so i am use to tight accurate bass
@@Espiritiv Rythmik is all about tight articulate bass. You can't go wrong with either. You will get more tactile bass and dig lower with the 18. I have not heard the 22 . I have my dual FV18 REV2 PAPER CONE SUBWOOFERS for 6 months now. Still watching movies I have experienced hundreds of times and they sound so much better with Rythmik.
Always had my eye on rythmik but ended up with dual JTR RS1s. More expensive, yes, but I finally reached end game on my bass for my budget
@@tvolkman88 i am sure those subwoofers sound amazing. You will be happy for a long time
@@tvolkman88 Nice! Quite a price difference though :) Im sure you will put your 2400watt to good use.
🤔 I know it's not highly rated among budget subs but I'd appreciate your review and insight! Watched a video of "Z's Review" and he had greats things to say compare to others.
What sub bro?
@@NemoPropaganda Don't laugh.. Bic f12
@@Arch702 BIC F12 sells for $350 to $450 usually and has 175w and is known to have some reliabilty problems. I think at that price it is better to buy the RSL Speedwoofer 10S MKII that is known to be a very high quality subwoofer.
I am confused. You say you can put a fish tank on the subwoofer.
Should the fishtank have fish in it? If so, what species? Bass, perhaps?
Considering the subwoofer runs on electricity and the fish tank contains water doesn't this present a considerable risk of being shocked.
What size of tank would suffice?
When the tank is installed should I watch movies such as Midway to truly enjoy the subwoofer to maximum effect?
Or will I experience a sinking feeling
Keep up the excellent reviews.
I'm just stumbling on this... Have you ever reviewed or heard the F-18.... People call it an end-game sub, what say you?
yeah I've heard it, my buddy has a pair in his home theater. It's pretty damn amazing!
How is this for movie ??
one of the best!
Hey Nemo, just an FYI, the E15HP2 output is actually higher than the G22 by half a db at 20hz, per Enrico. He said it sits between the G22 and F18. The Output Comparison list on their site only has the E15HP and not E15HP2, which is 1.5db higher. The list is based on output at 20hz, which may be different from what you’re speaking of though. One of the more notable differences that Enrico mentioned was that the G22 has no tactile response, which the E15HP2 has. That’s what made me decide on dual E15HP2, when they come back in stock.
Has no tactile response? I find that hard to believe. I think that comment needs further clarification.
@@JPWinters I’m just repeating what the people at Rythmik said. I’m no expert.
@@deankim6687 Would be nice to follow up with them to ask this and share findings. Im torn between those two models as well
Due the dual opposed driver design, the G22 produce little to none tactile response. If your goal is tactile response then the E22 or the E15HP2 are the way to go. In fact, the F12 produce more tactile response than the G22. I would tag the G22 as a subwoofer for real audiophiles and 100% use for music. In fact, a pair of G22s are the subwoofers I have in my main system, which while a 7.3.4 ATMOS system, I use it like 90% for music and 10% for movies.
@@enricocastagnetti2400 So G22 has about same cone size area as an 18" driver. If it doesnt have as much "tactile response", you would suggest an E15HP2 and not an F18 with 18" driver? For me i will be like 20% music, and 80% movies, but want accurate reproduction of the movies, and subsonic capabilities.
hahahahahaha, "you're as old as I am, your back probably hurts" then proceeds to give advice on how to treat that. That hit home.
I'm just trying to save the world 1 back at a time lol
God I miss total request live.
ah yes, simpler times...
Mmmmmmmm Duality
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I need your help Nemo. G22 or 1510. Speakers are zu souls. Room is about the size of yours
Great products but confusing marketing and a website from the 1990’s
I feel like their marketing is less confusing than PSA but agree about the old looking website for sure.
You made me like Rythmik bit their customer service sucks! I mean really sucks! I am afraid to buy their products. They just don’t respond my mails which is sent to BUY a product. It takes years to have a response. I don’t know whether they reply in case of an issue!
it's a small company. In my experience a 3-5 day response time is fairly normal but I understand not everyone is okay with that.
I bought 2 F18's and the second one had a dead amp. I got a very quick response with a new amp in the mail right away.
I have contacted them numerous times with queries regarding some of their models . Some of them were quite silly and novice issues .
My personal experiences have been amazing . Both Brian and Enrico have both been very prompt and helpful .
2 SB3000 vs. 1 G22....? hmmm.....
decisions decisions...
Here’s one for everyone: Paradigm Sub 1 vs G22?
that's a long discontinued subwoofer that cost over $5k when it was sold, I would expect the G22 to easily compete as 6x 8" is not too much more surface area than 2x 12" drivers that are more efficient.
@@NemoPropaganda agreed! The justifiable comparison here is if someone where to ever consider buying a used sub 1, the g22 could be a fairly comparable lateral move that comes with warranty.
@@95redz oh absolutely, I would not recommend anybody buy a 15 year old subwoofer unless its insanely cheap. The glues that hold the spiders and surrounds in place can breakdown around that age. If its a foam surround it can also breakdown around that time also, and the compenents in the plate amp have been run through thosands of heat cycles and may also be at the end of their life. Sure some subs will go for 25+ years but its not that common. I think many of these older giant subs were great for their time but may sound unpolished compared to something that Rythmik makes today.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for your time to reply!