firing up my 2 inch scale ploughing engine
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2010
- I was contacted by a viewer asking if I could show the sequence of how to fire the engine from cold, hope this is what was wanted
Where the charcoal goes in, add enough to cover the fire bars to a reasonably thick layer.
Once it is alight the charcoal will burn through fairly quickly so add coal to build up the fire depth to just below the fire hole door
Practice will dictate what thickness of fire works best in your engine
hope this helps people get started - Auta a dopravní prostředky
hi
yes she's a lovely beast. i bought her 2 years ago as i love ploughing engines and so when she came up for sale it had to be done
I then started on the steam fair circuits for the last year and a half which has been great fun, starting out in a tent and then a caravan !!
not a cheap hobby !!!
:-)
probably going to sell her next year and get a 4 inch scale egine which is easier and more fun to run at the rallies
Good video, very helpful guide to firing an engine. When i get a 4inch i will bare this in mind
Wow that thing is huge and sweet! Very nice Mike!
HI great video , lovely engine , glad to see there is someone that is prepared to show how its done. i am in the process of rebuilding my 2" scale Marshall steam roller she was built originally to true with a steel boiler and firebox but as she had no paperwork with her and the welds a bit suspect we opted for a complete new copper firebox and boiler, now the rebuild is nearly complete and a nice coat of marshall red is going on to replace the faded green , should, i hope look good.
Cutting edge technology in its day,...beautiful model.
Thanks it was very usefully
Hi,
Good video! I have a 3 1/2" gauge steam locomotive and it was nice comparing the light up of a traction engine to a locomotive. Seems to be almost the same procedure.
@MikeL0ck
hello i agree with that but you could just park it in a garage and move it around under steam
hi
a couple of hundred pounds i estimate, never avtually weighed her, it takes 2 to lift it into the car !!
yeah i do love comounds, especially ploughing engines
will have to see what i can pick up next year
@TractionAlex
Hi, this engine doesn't have an injector, too small to be practical really. It has a manual pump and mechanical pump running from an eccentric the crank shaft
Both have feed pipes from the tender on the engine, so what I have done is to "T" off the mechanical pump feed to allow me to connect back to the water tank in the wagon
In this way I can still run from tender alone if need be
Having the larger tank just means having to fill up less often.... just every 10 mins or so !
hi, sorry for the delay in responding. no the maxitrak model is 1inch scale
@speedboatstuart
hi, you're very welcome indeed, glad you liked it
I've actualy sold her recently as I've bought a 4 inch Burrell so sadly she had to go
Sounds like a nice engine you have too, I like rollers but they are pretty rare in 4 inch scale
make sure you pop a video on here when you finish her
@jaffa154
Hi
Yes indeed, not just for the cost of the engine but if you intend to join a club and rally it then you'd need a van or trailor etc for a bigger one
This is a big engine even in 2 inch scale but it still fits in an estate car
That's the place I am at now, wanting to go up to 4inch scale but that requires much bigger investment
thanks mate that is a great video you have a lovely engine i should make a video of my 7 1/4 gauge loco it all practice to get these thing steam up aye.
@TractionAlex
Hi, yes indeed i can, i got them from MJ Engineering, (web) they come as a metal kit which fits together very nicely with just the basic cleaning up of moulds etc
Sounds good. Which do you find works better. Wood or charcoal?
i have now sold her and bought a 4 inch Burrell.... much easier to keep in steam at rallies, although of course a but harder to transport around :-)
With the injector have you connected it to the trailer with a tank inside?
Can you explain how your injector is connected to this tank and has it got fitting on the side of the boiler which is connected to pump and injector, so you possible tell how it works?
Thanks for the advice, when i looked at the clack and ball bearing before it was free to move and did move up and down when was cold.
Should you see water coming out of the bottom of the pump?
Matt Seymour
When you move the flywheel if the mechanical pump is engaged you should see water coming down the pipe to what would be the clack
Do you get a fair bit of smoke when you use smokey steam coal broken up?
I have a minnie 1 inch! How do you prime the mechanical pump on these?
Do you recommend little and often with firing? i have a 1 inch
Nice work,but where to buy the drawings?
where is ur external water supply connected to, is it directly on the injector?
Can you possible tell me where you got the lamps from because i am looking for some for my marshall 3 inch traction engine seen as it is just coming up to completetion
Very nice where did you get her is she expensive?
That's awesome. How much does this model weigh? I would have to think quite a bit. Watching the pistons, cranks and gears going is just a thing of pure mechanical beauty.
Hi could you tell me how far the grate sits up in the firebox please
would you say a 2 scale traction engine is the right size for a starting steam engine?
Well it seems to move about when i take the plug off. Should there be visible water from the pump where the ball bearing is and should the ball bearing be moving freely?
Matt Seymour
You should see water coming from the pump to that clack yes
The ball bearing should be free to move up in the clack when the engine is cold as there is no pressure to hold it down on the seat
You can find out by pushing a small rod (paper clip should do on that scale) up into the clack
If you don't have water coming from the pump you need to check the pump feed and return valve are all correct
If you don't have water coming from the
was this made from scratch? or did you get it from a model supplier? If so what was the companies name?
Hi
i bought it already made
there are suppliers who provide the castings but it's not like a ready made kit or anything
brunell . com
Think that may be the case. Do you mean the small ball bearing at the top of the pump where the removable plug is?
Matt Seymour
Yes that's it
But make sure you get water from the pump
Ok will try that. So better using normal smokey steam coal broken up rather than anthracite?
Matt Seymour yeap I think so..
Great thanks. I use Welsh steam coal. Do you recommend that compared to the standard steam coal?
@@MikeL0ck is Russian standard steam best? Not Welsh steam?
The reason i ask about the mechanical water pump is because mine won't pump water into the boiler when put lever down to shut valve. Any reason why its not doing it?
Matt Seymour if you take the pipe off the clack do you see water pumping ? If yes then you need to check the ball on the clack to make sure it's not seized and water can pass into the boiler
Thanks for that. So you shouldn't see any water pumping when take the pipe off?
For a 1 inch is it better to crush up grains of anthracite smaller to a baked beans size to burn better?
Matt Seymour
Hi. No not really. I found using steam coal broken into anything around half inch or little bigger was best. You can see sone in the video
Too small and it burns too fast and breaks up dropping through the bars as will the anthracite which powders too fast
So grains is not as good as bigger coal?
@@MikeL0ck Thanks will try that. Its named on the bag 'standard steam coal' right?
Right ok, where on the pump would that be? Where the pipes come down off the pump?
Matt Seymour
You'll have to follow it back from the clack.
I can't explain it any more than that
Thanks for your help, much appreciated, So basically if water is coming out of the clack valve where the pipes are if they are off it is working ok?
is this a maxitrak model
Hi
sorry cant help, it came with the engine, but most model steam engineering suppliers should have the brush parts available
Why do you use wood and charcoal?
Hi
Sorry I only just saw your questions. You need either parafin soaked charcoal or wood to get a fire going
Once the charcoal is burning well and formed a good hot layer you can add small amounts of coal
Firing on small engines is a constant thing little and often is the only way really
You'll need what coal merchants term "beans"
Not sure what you mean by priming the mechanical pump ?
As long as the tender is full it will pull water .. there should be a valve which you turn to send water into boiler or back to tender
I've tried that with the valve and it still doesn't pump water Into the boiler.. Why is that?
no, there wasnt an injector on her, but no reason why you couldn't
i simply T'd off the tender supply pipe which then fed up to mechanical pump
But can I use just charcoal then coal or is it best to use wood and charcoal to start?
Yes you could just use lumpwood charcoal soaked in paraffin
Is it better to use both wood and charcoal ?
nobody makes a ready made 2 inch scale ploughing engine.
you can buy a ready made one in 1 inch scale from Maxitrak UK
or you could just look out on various steam models for sale sites to see if one comes up, but it might take some years !
Why do you use wood and charcoal?
Hi
It's to get the fire started. You cannot get coal to burn from cold
On this scale easy light or paraffin soaked charcoal is excellent but even on full size engines they still use wood to get a fire started