Don’t listen to Car Supplies Warehouse… Bilt Hamber Auto-Foam review!
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2023
- Hey everyone!
I was in the middle of working on my auto foam review when car supplies warehouse released their snow foam comparison, and I just couldn’t resist.
Overall I agree with them that a lot of snow foams on the market have little to no cleaning power, but that doesn’t mean they all fall into that basket.
Today we’ll compare bilt hamber auto foam to Autoglym polar blast and see if they also are just hype.
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100% agree. Here in the UK Bilt Hamber is the daddy of pre-cleaners.
It’s really impressed me the couple times I’ve used it so far!
And its less than £20 for 5 litres
@@kenanhill3006 where I live it’s around $60-$65 for 5L.
For Bilt Hamber, rule of thumb for PIR is:
1% is 100ml/ Litre
2% is 200ml/Litre
3% is 300ml/Litre
4% Is 400ml/Litre
You can calculate it more accurately or just adjust up and down for your set up.
Happy detailing folks.😊
Good info! I found that even at 100/1L is strong enough to clean well especially consider how much cleaning power most foams have.
1% of a 1000mls = 10ml get your calculators out.
PIR is misunderstood by the whole detailing world especially with the foam lances hence the vast differences in outcomes in various tests.
When using the a PW and a foam lance the total amount of water required to empty the bottle will give you the correct ratio. For example my pw lance and hose etc will use 10 liters to empty my lance so you make the ratio through there because the moving energy to empty the bottle is water not air. That why we have a mess when we compare with spray pumps
@@shrmtales My man, I'm sure it's not misunderstood by the whole detailing world.
This week is been only the 15th time i written this in many forums and groups since is an ongoing Q as to what works or not. So my up to date experience says that@@You-are-right-but
@@shrmtales So it's not misunderstood by the whole detailing world.
I’ve just tested the bilt hamber on my Ford Ranger which hadn’t been washed since December and had spent a lot of time on muddy building sites.
It came up well enough that I didn’t even bother getting the wash mitt out.
Perfect as a prewash, or for giving your car a quick blast down when you don’t have much time.
It’s legit stuff. Just used it on my car getting it ready to test out some products. It makes quick work of build up traffic film.
Thanks for that. I know how good the BH autofoam is because after a contact wash (5ml of BH autowash), my white lambswool mitt is still white (except the lower sills where it's thinness means it runs off a bit too quickly).
I can heartily recommend BH autofoam, autowash, wheel cleaner, double speed wax and the trigger heads are a joy to use.
Great review. Love the BH stuff for a quick rinse once a week for my Alberta salty roads in the winter 👍
Thanks! Yeah I’m happy to have it going forward.
I use Bilt Hamber Surfex HD at 5% then AH Blast on top, which does the job for me. I got 15 litres of AG Blast for buttons a year back. Nice review. Surfex HD is very versatile.
I have used loads of different snow foams and wasted so much money and Bilt Hamber is the daddy can’t get any better .
Bilt Hamber really seems to be unmatched for prewash foam.
I use their touchless because I do rinseless and done usually use a pressure washer so I want it to free rinse easier. It is amazing.
It’s too bad the import fees make it so expensive here in Canada. I use it in a pump sprayer instead of a foam canon. I can dilute it easily to the exact percentage I want, and I go through far less product. That 5L will last me a while.
Hopefully a North American company will come out with a good prewash at some point. I’m surprised they haven’t yet. One that is as safe and non-corrosive as the BH products.
I found the price to be acceptable from Carzilla for what it does. They do have quite a few of the other foams including the Koch products, but pricing wasn’t as good and even at 8:1 it out cleans any consumer grade foam on the market handily.
I use surfex hd, only rely on foam to extend dwell time now
Ahoi Mate! What a lovely video! I switched to Bilt Hamber Foams about a Year ago, and to me they are complete game changers. I totally agree with what you are saying and can say that I came to the exact same conclusions. Touch Less works a bit better for me even but both are very close. They just hit a sweet spot of Cleaning to Material Safety I haven't seen anyone else be able to achieve. There are Foams that clean a little better, but these often contain Sodium or Potassium Hydroxide, making them less safe in my eyes. Your Video is absolutely spot on.
Two things: KC Active Foam is just a nice pH neutral Foam, its not really alkaline in dilution anymore, if you want that from Koch you need Copo Star (which cleans worse vs the Bilt Hamber Foams) or VB(n) which falls in the super strong category I wouldn't use everyday.
Lastly I can only recommend getting cotton make up removal pads, that's what I use to show different pre cleaners working.
What a lovely video, thanks mate!
I have make up pads too! I’ll try that next time!
@@sheepstardetail I really enjoyed that video a lot! I look forward to it!
I use touchless at about 30ml at 1.5L water in a pump sprayer for an entire car, it works very well
Good to know!
I have just started using auto foam on my 2 cars, wow i have never seen them so clean and shiney. would definitely recommend
Yeah it’s cleaning abilities are very impressive, even at weaker ratios too
What I like about Bilt hamber is the put in a anti rust chemical. I have to agree that the Autoglym leaves too much dirt behind. I always had to put Citrus on 1st and foam over the top. I think Autofoam is PH 13 and the BH Touchless is PH 12 but performs in a different way. The Autoglym is PH 7. It's just not strong enough for me.
Yeah CSW only used PHneutral foams in that video! Bilt Hamber touchless is my go too prewash along with Angelwax Citrus prewash.
Yeah APC will work as well, AF is a little less aggressive compared to some APC’s though, but it will also depend on where you live and what you have access to.
exactly ! tried saying that the products CSW used wouldn't touch the dirt on the car he was using but all git back was oh but the products say they will clean, lift dirt blah blah blah.
The products used were never gonna do anything, clearly been picked to push the theory of most Americans that pre wash snow foams are useless. Very manipulated video to suit his agenda.
That's the issue with lot of detailing videos, so so easy to manipulate to show either really good or really crap depending on what the user wants to show at that time or to push sales that have been poor since a company took on that product line. Yet so many folk fall for it.
Bilt Hamber is definitely the best out there but bear in mind with tests like this that your near side will always be dirtier than your offside.
While true, the car wasn’t washed for the entire winter (around 3 months) so it was equally filthy by the time it was washed.
BH Touchless and Autofoam are the bomb. Even Obsessed Garage are starting to use it. We’re lucky in the UK it’s so cheap 🇬🇧
I’m okay with the cost of it for me, I don’t need to use much more than 10:1 for it to work well.
I assume the Bilt Hamber pre washes should only be used on coatings for maintenance washes? They would take a degrade a wax or polymer sealant correct?
That is one thought on the subject, but it’s actually something I want to test.
My quick spray wax (Polish Angel Rapidwaxx) has held up to about 45 washes with Touchless before any noticeable degradation. Even my quick detailer has held up to dozens of washes to Touchless without issue, which was not engineered to add long term durability. I hope one uses a Quick Detailer, or a Ceramic Maintenance as a drying aid every time they wash their vehicle. By doing this you’re adding more protection then taking away the next time 👍
These are 2 very different products however used the same way. Autoglym is designed to not be harsh and user friendly for well maintained cars, this product is very low in alkalinity whereas the Bilthamber is highly alkaline. AF is more of a traffic film remover so will be fairly harsh on LSP. Can be used in a pump sprayer to great effect. It's big brother Touchless has the edge over it though. Every Bilthamber product is a stalwart, it just doesn't carry detailing scene points as Bilthamber don't push advertising. If you wanted a single brand on your shelf then BH has it all. Their fallout remover Kerosol imo is the leader of all fallouts, double speed wax is incredible, I could go on!
Good video. NV Snow Plus cleans well as a snow foam as well.
Yeah I’ve heard good things about that too. Quiet costly by volume where I live though.
Good test! For me - personally - the best way is spray, not foam. Maybe you can try some day Bilt Hamber Touchless? I use 1:100-1:50
I do that as well, on wheels, tires, engine, and undercarriage. I still foam the body for extra dwell time.
@SheepStar, Would you like to review the new MJJC foam cannon S V3.0? Thanks.
Sure! Email me at my channel email address under the about section on my channel.
A decent snow foam cannon will help a lot.
@@jakethegsd yeah I tried it out the other day in prep for the review, very impressed so far!
Bro bolt hamber touchless is even better have been using it for a few mouths . Good review. Kev Belfast
Yeah I’ve heard it’s even stronger. I only “needed” auto foam so didn’t want to fork out the extra for something stronger. Maybe when my autofoam is almost out I’ll get touchless and do a conparison
I like to use Gyeon foam pre wash. The ph neutral foams aren't meant to pull all dirt, they're really just lubrication for a contact wash.
Straight from Gyeon’s website.
“Q²M Foam provides the opportunity to have a home-made touchless wash. It dissolves gime and road-dirt, ensuring a gentle wash afterwards. Hence its characteristics - it not only is totally safe for your coating, but also for uncoated cars or surfaces like polished alloy rims or exterior trim.”
They absolutely advertise these foams as pre-cleaners designed to do more than lubricate.
@@sheepstardetail yeah but that product is advertised as a pre wash that is not ph neutral out of the bottle. I'm taking about regular ph neutral soaps like Adam's regular shampoo...etc.
For clarification, I wasn't saying Gyeon doesn't remove dirt, im saying it does and that's why I use it as a pre wash....and use a regular ph neutral shampoo after just for lubrication with a contact wash.
Oh I know, but I’ve found many of the snow foams on the market don’t actually have much cleaning power. I haven’t tested Gyeon myself but chemical guys and Autoglym both did nothing a pressure washer couldn’t do.
i have valeting & detaing for 18 months bilt hamber auto foam is the only product i use i even add 2% apc in with it give it bit of a kick
That sounds like a good combination. APC is usually more economical price wise compared to most high activity snow foams.
I use the auto foam out of out of a pump sprayer then use a cheaper snow foam over the top..bang for you buck as you guys say🙏rather than through the foam lance ..use less same effect for me .
Yep, both way work, just depends on your equipment! I think some prefer the foam as it doesn’t dry out as fast and you don’t have to mix 2 chemicals, but during colder wetter times of the year a pump spray will work fine.
If you use Auto Foam at the correct dilutions, you won’t need an APC underneath 👍🏻
Agreed. I did that with polar blast as it had no power even at it’s suggested ratio. It also foams so much at those higher concentrations that it takes forever to rinse off and stays on the driveway for hours.
Is there something about Autogylm being a readily available consumer brand sold at Canadian Tire vs Bilt Hamber being more for prosumers / professionals? And they're selling the whole foaming concept to get more money
Well I think you answered it right there, it’s a consumer brand vs an enthusiast brand. I’m not trying to single out Autoglym, all mainstream foams fall into this category, including foams from other enthusiast brands that sell higher end products like proper coatings.
The way I see it, they want a product that gives people a sense of purpose, without risks of high detergent content possibly doing damage, and of course “fitting in” with the trends in detailing. If you combine polar blast with a APC/TFR pre-spray you can get auto foam levels of performance, but that is more investment, time, and coordination each time you need to foam.
If you have very clean cars and you want to pull off light soiling or dust, it works great. Just don’t expect it to have more cleaning power than a pressure rinse on its own.
i have never used auto foam, but i use bilt hamber touchless which i find very good.
If you have touchless you probably have no need for autofoam as it’s stronger.
Love the you washed it in the rain needs a wash still respect.
Washing in the rain is the best! So much dwell time for APC’s and foam!
Bilt Hamper - Touch-Less (snow foam) is even better, at least for us in the UK and our road grime. If you can get one - give it a go, you might be even more impressed!
I do have access to it, but I felt it was more than I needed for work flow (it’s also slightly more expensive).
BH products are just pure class
Agreed, very happy with AF and finis wax!
Bilt Hamber is a biodegradable, ecologically-friendly snow foam. For me personally, that's the kicker.
Where do you buy in Canada?
Www.Carzilla.ca
Bilt Hamber Touch-Less snow foam is awesome. That isn't to say that the Autoglym snow foam isn't any good.
If your goal is zero contact chemical cleaning (which in my opinion, is the whole point of snow foam) then Autoglym is not a good choice. It foams like crazy and can be used at decent dilution ratios, but it doesn’t clean.
Bilt Hamber products are superior against other brands, even their cavity and undersea waxes are outperforming Dinitrol, rubber coating and similar.
They say that because they want to sell you more and more products. APC, Pre-Foam, contact wash, etc.
But auto-foam combines pre-wash and foam. I also feel much better contact washing after a product like this than without. It also rinses off really well compared to some other foams and APC’s.
@@sheepstardetail I know. That’s why I’m saying the want to sell more products, so they say some foams alone won’t work.
There are many good foams that do a lot of the heavy lifting, and on ceramic coated vehicles some ph neutral soaps do make the difference with just foam and pressure rinse.
@@SpartanKyuubi There are also crazy differences in between the pH neutral ones, while not close to anything alkaline Sonax Actifoam Energy for example really does a reduction of dirt on the car compared to many other pH neutral soaps
your foam looks very runny, liquified ..also i know you dont need super shaving cream foam either lol! either way, your test shows Bilt Hamber is a lot more Alkaline and effective ! ;-)
That is my old canon. It’s pushing 15 years now and it has never had super thick foam.
👍🏻
But let me ask you this man is that stuff 100% no touch you don’t have to go back and read Wife branch. Is it like a hand wash? That’s my point is Man
It’s not a touch free wash unless your car is extremely clean. Compared to most snow foams, it is infinitely stronger and will remove a large amount of dirt before any contact is made. 100% recommend it
Damn bro, that music is bad….real bad!
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Anyone using Auto Glym is not serious about cleaning their cars 😏
If you have a really cheap and strong APC, you could layer them and get decent results. That being said, you almost don’t need a strong APC with autofoam.
Pretty stupid to use the BH at a mix ratio recommended for the AG Polar Blast! The manufacturers recommend how to use their products, so follow their instructions. The most important point is to have the correct percentage mix ratio arriving on the panel (Panel Impact Ratio/PIR), not in the bottle! Every foam gun and pressure washer produces a different performance, so you must work out the PIR. You recommend in you video to "Do your research", so do it and produce a better and more accurate information video.
If you actually watched the video you would have saw the part where I explained that I know about PIR and BH recommended % but I wanted to see how they compared at the same mix/dilution. AG’s ratio/mix is less than what a high PIR mix would be, so I’m comparing the proposed value proposition of AG.
Anyway, good try!
Autoglym is a very good brand but their polar series is crap.
I would say the wash and sealant are “fine”, but blast really doesn’t have the cleaning abilities it says it does.
@@sheepstardetail I did not try the Seal yet but I have it. I will try it in 2 weeks time when I go home on holidays as I have it back home. The wash is decent
Built hammer products are too harsh on the chemicals! It’s even has eating away the paint finish on my concrete driveway. The autoglym range clean most as well with less harsh chemicals.
Autoglym has some good products, but their polar line can’t hold a candle to touchless or auto foam. I found the 4% PIR way overkill for what I need, usually use it around 1% (which is roughly 10:1) with good results still. Even at 4% it’s not as strong as most tire and wheel cleaners
Bilt Hamber os perfectly safe to use and contains little to no harsh chemicals this is its main selling point
Crap review. Unless you mix per the manufacturers instructions, you are comparing apples and oranges.
I used both of them within their respective ranges, bilt hamber came out on top. I have never had good results with Autoglym, it’s just foam as far as I’m concerned.