Sim-Lab XP1 Pedals | Our FULL Review!
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- What’s better than a ‘regular’ load cell pedal set? A 200kg load cell that can transfer up to 100kg of pedal pressure, that’s what!
Sim-Lab, known primarily for its cockpits and sim racing seats has made the move into electronic hardware, with the XP1 - its first ever set of pedals.
It’s gone all in too, with adjustable stiffness and initial first-stage compression, four stiffness of elastomers, swappable springs, RaceDirector software and a premium-feeling finish.
Watch our full review to see if Sim-Lab can bring across its reputation for quality into a new market segment and if it can stack up against very firm competition.
What we have on test here are two formula-style pedals, throttle and brake, which come as a set for £481. You can also purchase a clutch pedal for £175, or a set of three for £612. Sim-lab also offers the XB1 load cell handbrake, a push-ull rally gear shifter, and through GRID Engineering, the incredible Porsche 911 GT3 Cup Dashboard Display Unit which we shall review soon.
The unit was provided by Sim-Lab for review purposes, this is not a paid-for review: traxion.gg/advertising-affili...
00:00 - Intro
00:26 - Unboxing
01:40 - First Impressions
03:20 - Adjustments and Design
05:50 - Quality
06:41 - Changing Springs and Elastomers
08:05 - Full Pedal Review
15:47 - Price
16:20 - Final Thoughts and Conclusion
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Thanks for doing this review guys!! 🔥
Our pleasure! Thanks for sending them😄
@sim-lab_official I ordered these pedals from UK 2 weeks ago, on the website it says these will only start shipping from Nov 1, I can’t wait
i cant get the throttle pedal to respond after 2 days of using them any ideas it did a jitter deal once or twice the first night set 5% deadzone now i have nothing in response from pedal
@@JUST_BILL23 you have to update the firmware
Another great videos guys. Love the ones you do together, nice to have both opinions on these!
I'm genuinely enchanted by your video! - "Challenges become stepping stones on the path to growth..."
Wonderful!
Had them a few weeks and have had to construct my own rubber heel rest for my Trak Racer pedal plate. Have also rotated both pedal faces 180 degrees to reduce gap at the top. Following that bit of own hardware setup, have genuinely made me a faster and more consistent sim racer. Love them.
Thanks for the review guys. Mine have arrived and I am waiting to order the adjustable pedal plate and receive that before mounting on the rig.
For me, it's an upgrade from my Thrustmaster T-CLM's.
Our pleasure! Enjoy them😄
Great review! How they are compared to other pedals like the vrs, vnm?
I've had 2 major failures with the Throttle pedal, both times the bracket holding the Magnetic sensor has sheared off the base of the pedal. Once may have been a flaw, but 2. The pedals are not fit for purpose.
For those that are interested, I've been a bit disappointed with these pedals. Here are some of my thoughts...
- The worst thing is, there is a fair bit of jitter in the hall effect sensors for the accelerator and clutch (the brake is nice and smooth, though). My previous pedals (Fanatec CSLs) were half this price and have better sensors. I'll be contacting SimLab about this. Guess we'll see how good their support is.
- The clutch came without the bolts at the pivot point tightened down, so the pedal jiggled. It was hard to tighten this down myself because both sides are connected together, so you need two hex wrenches that are the same size and I only have one set. I had to borrow one from a neighbor.
- The clutch also came without the bolts on the pedal face angle bracket tightened down. Luckily, this was an easy fix.
- The clutch manual states "This is the only pedal which we limit to only using the top adjustment point on the pedal arm. Because of the swiveling pivot part, we do not support any of the other adjustment holes." This limits the adjustability of the pedal and the setting of the bite point.
- All the pedals squeaked when I first got them. I had to lubricate them straight out of the box.
- The pedals at their fully extended points are all different angles. This is not the faces, but the armatures. The worst part is that this made the brake lower than the accelerator, so it was hard to heel/toe. It took a bit of fiddling and I had to move the brake forward a fair bit to get it to work.
- Although this might be just personal preference, the accelerator pedal is short, which also makes it difficult to heal/toe. I was able to solve this by designing and printing a replacement pedal. If you don't have a 3D printer, you'll just have to get used to it, I guess.
- There are no color-codings or markings indicating which spring or elastomer is which. This is minor, but so simple.
- The adjustment screws that are at your heal are really annoying
- The pedal faces are too high, although this can be solved if you don't mind mounting them upside-down. That makes the SimLab lettering upside-down, but that doesn't really bother me.
- Once I fiddled around enough to get them pretty well set, they do feel pretty good, though.
I know these aren't the most expensive pedals out there, but they are not basic, and for the price, I expected a bit better quality control and attention to detail. Obviously, these are just my opinions. Your impression of them may be different. I'm not saying not to buy them. These are just some things to be aware of.
For the jitter, make sure you are plugged into the correct type of USB port on your PC. Or a powered USB hub.
I had the jitter, but as soon as I went into a powered USB hub it got rid of the jitter
@@octane55 Appreciate the tip, but unfortunately I already did this. I don't have a powered hub, but I tried various USB 2 and USB 3 ports on my motherboard.
DAMN
Any updates?
any plan to check out the cammus lc100?
I've had my XP1's for a couple of weeks now. I do not like the elastometers. I ended up using an $8 metal red spring from Amazon that I was already using on my CSL load cell pedals. After tweaking a lot, they are really nice pedals with lots of adjustability.
Do you have a link, please
I am eager for a link as well please 🙏🙂
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Do you think they are better than the T-LCM pedals by Thrustmaster ?
Had these for a few weeks - the only problem I have is that there is zero indication on the strength of the springs for either brake or throttle - you are left pushing them yourself to see how hard they are. There is nothing in the instructions regarding this. At least the elastomers have a number stamped on them.
Does it work on consoles?
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Are these "real" loadcell pedals or are they similar to the Asetek? They look kind of similar from the outside, but I've got absolutely no idea about these technical things, so if someone could enlighten me, that'd be amazing. I'm considering them in the price gap between the Fanatec Elite V2 and the likes of the VRM, Heusinkveld etc
Its real. We have a patent on our loadcell solution. 😁
@@sim-lab_official Asetek's shortcut made me really not trust any new loadcell pedals anymore lol, but yours looks like a good overall product if I can somehow raise my feet above the blue knobs
@@drchtcti would feel the same way. I think someone made a critical thinking error at asetek, when trying to design a pressure based measurement, but in such a way that it registers travel..(!). Ours is just pressure based.
@@sim-lab_official good to hear!
@@drchtct ❤️🔥
that pressure point is a deal breaker for me :( 11:50 the blue thumb screw major oversight do simlabs not test their own equipment before manufacture?
Does anyone know how to fix the software, the update page just shows up blank and I can’t find my pedals on the software, help me 😢
I just installed these on my rig today. Im getting some kind of interference in the software calibration. My clutch and throttle light up green as if Im pressing on the with a twitchy foot and I dont have any pressure on the pedals. I tried changing out the wires with other brands I have and I cant get it to stop. When I try to bind settings in games it wont allow me because the pedals are active. I tried dead zones, unplugging, replugging, restarting, recalibrating. Its really frustrating because these pedals feel so freaking good. Im online trying to find information on what I can do but no luck yet
could you fix it or what was the issue?
Hitting calibrate should fix this. If its only down low, adjust your deadzone
Can somone please share simlab XP1 Rfactor2 settings?
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Look...buying pedals today is an effort. These are interesting BUT they use elastometers and the elastometer relaxation (even new) is a thing. So I'm not sure if these or VRS or Simgrade VX-Pro that instead use springs...These look really neat though.
They’re a spring - elastomer setup, not simply elastomer. Simple thing is to replace the preferred elastomer every few years. Presume they will be made available for individual purchase in the fullness of time.
@@ciaranconnor4466In my words I haven't been referring to elastomers in relationship to wear. Wear is not an issue. Elastomer relax brand new. These pedal's elastomer loses around 6/8% of your pressure brand new every time you go toward 80/90%.
@@zzmadd ah right, was unaware of that. Suppose it depends on whether one wants to go to the next pay bracket to side step that issue. I think for the price, these are very competitive.
Elastomers do relax after inital strain, but I think the issue has been blown way out of proportion IMO. Even with the relaxation I think elastomers feel better than springs in most cases. Personal preference, but its not as big of an issue as some are making out. Just my 2 cents
@@PiersPriorMy personal elastometer loose 20% from 100% in 0.5sec.
I personally dislike how they feel but I never had a good pedal set with wide options for customization.
In my mind VRS pedals are really delicate and friction free. Sim racing is no real racing. Braking is really very delicate, especially in iRacing, less in other titles.
But in fact I have doubts about what to get...
Oww I’llo is
It's really cool they r only $89.00. I just ordered mine
Huh
Huh
It should be illegal to release pedals with no ffb in the brake pedal from now on since the simucubes have come out.
I’ll never understand how they made something all metal look so much like cheap plastic. Idk if I’m the only one but these look toyish to me.
could be the powder coating they did, and what colors they used. for me tho, it certainly looks clean still, not automotive inspired but not bad either for simulation purposes