Say No to Logitech! Building Your First Sim Racing Rig - Here's Where You Can Cut Corners.
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Are you thinking about building your first sim racing or sim drifting rig? Putting a sim setup together can be expensive so this video covers where it's worth spending the money and where you can cut corners. Some of the topics discussed include the best beginner wheelbase, whether to play on console or PC, and what kind of screen setup you should use. I've got almost a decade of experience in sim racing with wheels like the Logitech G29 and G920, Thrustmaster T300RS, Fanatec DD1, Simagic Alpha Mini and more. I've also been involved in various motorsports through the years, including transition over from sim drifting to real life.
If you've been on the fence about getting into sim or just need some advice about your setup, this video should help get you pointed in the right direction.
Topics in this video:
0:00 Intro
0:39 System - Console vs PC
1:46 Screen Setup - Screen vs VR
2:46 Wheel Stand - Compact vs Full
3:25 Wheelbase - Logitech vs Thrustmaster
5:16 Accessories - Pedals, Shifters, etc.
6:21 Closing thoughts
My Sim setup - Please note, using these links helps support my channel (Which is very much appreciated. Use code JankyDrift on Apex to get 5% off!) *********************
* Simagic Alpha Mini: www.apexsimracing.com/collect...
* Simagic Quick Release: www.apexsimracing.com/collect...
* GT Omega ART Cockpit: www.gtomega.com/products/art-...
* HP Reverb G2 Headset: Discontinued, recommend the Quest 3...
* Quest 3 VR Headset: amzn.to/3sWVAl3
* NRG 350MM Wheel: amzn.to/45g35RR
* Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter: amzn.to/45k4GpV
* Thrustmaster T-LCM Pedals: amzn.to/45B2JFc
* Generic Handbrake (PC Only): amzn.to/3E3dOTV
* NRG FRP-301 bucket seat: amzn.to/3OJfXsI
* USB Hub: amzn.to/3QKUKRT
* Logitech K400 Keyboard: amzn.to/47WgOyd
* GoPro Hero 10 Black (to record): amzn.to/4a0WxJD
* Thrustmaster T300 (old wheelbase): amzn.to/44cxZcB
* GT Omega Apex Cockpit (old wheelstand): amzn.to/3GnU52n
My Story *********************
In 2022 I purchased a 2007 Nissan 350z to start attending my first drift events, and I've learned quite a bit along the way. The community has been great and I'd very much like to pay it forward and help anyone looking else looking to get into drifting for the first time. Any burning questions as someone wanting to learn how to drift? Send them my way and I'll either respond or cover in a future video.
Helpful Links and Places Where You Can Find me *********************
Find the Janky Discord here:
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Janky Merch:
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Some of my IRL Gear - Purchases through these links help support my channel (Again, much appreciated) *********************
* 2007 Nissan 350z HR:
* Sparco Sprint Seats: amzn.to/3OAYa7K
* RaceQuip PRO20 Helmet: amzn.to/3Sx4TRn
* NRG 350MM Wheel: amzn.to/45g35RR
* Stage Monroe Wheels: enjukuracing.com/products/sta...
* BC Racing BR Coilovers: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Full Angle Kit: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Diff Brace: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Hydro: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Camber Arms: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Toe Arm: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* Koyo Radiator: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* Graffiti Harness Bar: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* KBD Duckbill: www.enjukuracing.com/products... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Watch my latest video on this for a deeper dive into wheelbases - Do I still think you should buy a T300? czcams.com/video/CAIdUVooylQ/video.htmlsi=U-8Z8EF7ztvU8GBS
Do you have any ps5 wheels for sale? Lol, is that ferrari wheel any good?
Just a quick tip for those starting on a budget:
If you have some old joystick for flying sims lying around just use that as a handbrake. You ofc have to setup axis accordingly but its not difficult and you get lots of extra buttons as a bonus.
im getting a wheel in 2 weeks and plan to do this, but is there not a downside to being able to move the joystick from side to side?
@@ka-uy8yhyou could probably find a way to lock one of the axis’
Can you set up an old joystick like that to do the camera?
fam, I just read this and I am about to run to my room and get my 2001 joystick xD
Thx
@@xavierpayne7179 Im pretty sure you can. There is a app for AC called Joycam however Ive never tried it myself. But from what Ive seen gamepad might be better for this as it basically emulates controls of a drone.
This is such a common topic BUT probably the best sim racing startup video I've seen in a long time if not ever. Bloody brilliantly done :)
Same here mate. I tried the G25 years ago and it felt good but g29 after real car feels like cr&p
I bought myself a Logitech G29 and shifter as my first wheel and pedal set and I'm pleased as punch with it. In fact, I also built a Ricmotech RS-1 and bolted everything down. Bolted down wheel for stability, bolted on 6-speed shifter, inverted pedals also bolted on. Actual car seat from a junkyard. It's very nice. I've gotten plenty of compliments on it. Also replaced the brake pedal spring with a newer one like the G923 has. I've been playing PS3 and PC games with it. Gran Turismo 5/6, F1 2010, American Truck Simulator, Forza Horizon 4, and at some point, Assetto Corsa.
Thats great its working for you.ive ow ed two logitech wheels. The g27 and g920 both equally junk but in different ways. If you are driving close to pro levels it will destroy the logitech wheels.. They're a horrible investment considering the price of the moza r5 .
Yea like every thing in life, each of their own. I bought g20 for my son to play his racing games. Huge upgrade from entry PXN V9 😂. Now the more I watch videos, I’m ready to spend $500-$1000 😅. But I let my son play this G20 til he gets a summer job since all his friends use the same wheel. Send me a link of your set up? Debating to build one from a Skyline seat I prob could get for cheap
Thanks for share your experience, I have a question, is de g29 and the t300 / t300rs compatible with PS3 slim?
Get the truebrake pedal mod for it. 👌🏼
@@cristianadangonzalez628 I use my G29 on my PS3 Slim model just fine. The only problem with it is that on PS3 it emulates the Logitech Driving Force GT, not the G25/27, so you don't get the clutch pedal and you cannot use the 6-speed H-pattern shifter. That only works on PS4/PS5 and PC, unfortunately. But it's fine. I can paddle-shift my way through F1 2010 and Gran Turismo 5/6.
I like how this video is straight to the point. No long boring introduction lol. Good job. I'm working on getting a wheel.
The way you explained the differences between thrustmaster and Logitech in terms of realism is amazing thank you
Cant explain how thankful I am for this series. Liked, subbed, and shared with some pals looking to do the same thing as me. Thank you!
Great pacing, all relevant information and no time wasted. Excellent video!
Love the wheel stand + playseat combination. Never thought about combining them and turn them into the ultimate “compact sim rig”. Thanks for the tip man!
Wow!! This is by far THE most straight to the point video i watched about simracing! Every topic about sim race gear is explained in just the right depth.
Very well done my man!❤💪👍
Always owned a Logitech wheel. On a G Pro now. No regrets at all.
Your standards need work
@Cheby Chvse I disagree LOL but I have yet to drive a DD 😮
a man of culture
@@X11CHASE your privilege needs work
Leaning towards logitech too just because of the fact that logitech has never let me down before either
Thanks mate. Literally trying to decide what set up to invest in for a start. Lots of great info in this vid and well presented with a cool sense of humour. Nice
your talking speed and directness makes my heart happy
THANK YOU! Exactly the video I was looking for. All others were for people with not as much pc and car experience. You answered all my questions thanks again.
I have been using a Thrustmaster TMX Wheel for the last 3 Years now on PC and Xbox and I can say its great fun for casuals. It's a bit cheaper feeling but the compatibility with other Thrustmaster products works well. I now have the Shifter and better pedals and it's great. The wheel is around 200 now.
Awesome quick content that covered many questions I had. Thank you.
I have been looking for a video like this for such a long time now! this is exactly the kind of information i needed thx!
Bought a t80 as my first wheel. Had fun, but I wanted something a little more. I had heard force feedback was the way to go but was a little out of my budget. I bought a cheap thrustmaster tx for $240, and man, it's a blast. The belt makes a little noise, and you can tell it was someone's rig for years, but it still works perfectly. I figured if anything, I bought an overpriced thrustmaster wheel, and I can get a brand new wheelbase eventually. I also learned the importance of a clutch peddle fast.
Omg just keep getting better and better!!!! I love it
I've been using a G920 attached to my computer desk for about three years. I play ACC and F1 2020 and it works well enough for me. It would be fun to have a sim rig but I can't justify the money and space it requires.
This guy need Cockpit crazy shit, they all sell Mario Kart crap
He needs mad clickbait scum....
Couldn’t agree more with this video! The T300 is heads above the Logitech G29/G920. Had mine for a week before returning it and buying a T300 😁
its also heads above in price
@@exernal8969 Yes it is. But it’s worth either getting the T300 used or save up more money before buying a wheel
I got TSPC racer love it
@@exernal8969 if you can get it on sale, at least in canada its around the same price
I bought a logitech g923 just to try it out from Best Buy. I’m going to return it and get the thrust master. T300rs thank you
Finally a good video that’s not just someone trying to constantly upsale
MIDPOND!!!! Awesome to see that the track is on assetto corsa. I’m about to build my first sim setup and your video has helped me leaps and bounds. Maybe I’ll catch you out at Midpond one day!
YES ive built my rig around one of those ikea chairs! Actually works REALLY well as a driving position as it's fairly reclined. Home built is the way to go if you have the means
I agree with this so much. I started on a t150 thrustmaster setup on os4 playing gt6 and ACC. It was fun. Got me into the hobyy. But about two month later i ran across a deal on a used t300. It was game one from then on. Im now in a full direct drive fanatec rig on pc
Well you just saved me money. I also have a t300 that I upgraded from a g920. And the difference was huge. Good to know DDs arent as big of a difference.
Best video 4 me as someone who know not mutch about simracing and want to start . thanks a lot ;)
this is really informative and well made video, thanks for sharing 🙌
Finally. Advice from someone seemingly genuine. Thanks mate
Wonderful video, amazing quality. New sub
I totally agree with this, I have the logitech g29. And while it is obviously a great upgrade from a controller I am kind disappointed in it, it feels like an expensive kid's toy and I regret not spending a bit more for belt driven. I am happy that it comes with a clutch pedal though because many pedal sets don't, and the good ones with a clutch are quite expensive. I also got the logitech shifter and later on got a fanatec handbrake to make drifting a bit easier.
My friend couldn't find t300 that I have, and bought g29. It feels like toy compared to t300, difference is really big for the small difference in cost. G29 is okay, you still can drive on it and feel things, but it really lacks power and you can drive it with your fingers, it is that lite, while on the other hand my hands hurt on t300 after 30minutes of driving, and I only use 85% of force. But pedals wise, I found g29 ones to be more intuitive because they are similar feel to todays modern car pedals (which is not something you find in race car), and I had to learn to use t300 ones for quite some time, they are sturdy but have really almost no force back, so at least you can be happy with that
@@Tomica031It is actually difficult to find the T300, especially if you are not living in the USA. In contrast, the G29 is widely available. Furthermore, the G29 features a fantastic shifter(fo its money) that is compatible exclusively with this wheel and is three times cheaper than the shifter from Thrustmaster. I genuinely desire a T300, but purchasing it is not as straightforward.
@@slavaukraini8061 yep, like I said, g29 is good starter point and pedals are very good (better than t300 ones you get), if only they put full belt system like t300 and raised price up a bit it would be so perfect
I left a comment elsewhere but look up LUT generator and make one for your wheel. It will make a huge difference in improving the feeling.
If you aren’t familiarliar, it’s software that creates a customized force feedback curve for your wheel which you can then use in various racing sims so that the force feedback is much more accurate to what the game intended it to feel like. I cannot overstate how much of a difference it makes, especially the more subtle force feedback effects feel so much better after setting one up. That’s what I did with my Logitech and it’s so much better than what it is stock.
@@aliteralwhale Thanks a lot, not expecting a world of difference but I'll definitely take a look.
Number 1 thing I recommend to anyone who's getting into sim racing or have been in it for awhile. Transducers for chair, it adds engine, road, and tire feel in the chair, it's an absolute MUST have.
I got a logitech wheel and I avoid using it because of the gear system, looking for an upgrade but nothing crazy expensive. I think you're spot on about the T300RS and will be picking one up shortly!
Check out the cammus c5. Cheapest direct drive on tbe market, youd be insane to pick anything else over that
Great video truly ahead of the curve
3:06 I currently have a playseat challenge and am suffering with flex at the wheel base. It flexes about 6-8inches up and down. Was looking for a way to mount the steering wheel differently and saw this. What’s your experience with your set up? How’s the rigidity? Really appreciate any insight
While i mostly agree, if you want a setup with a shifter the thrustmaster is lot more expensive compared to Logitech.
A friend of mine tried both and went with the g29 because he didnt feel much diference.
your friend might be deficient
Yep! I've encountered this problem multiple times over the last week browsing racing wheels. I found a new Logitech wheel set with a shifter included for just over $200. Beginners may not want to deal with the complexity of clutches and manual gearboxes but if you wanted to check it out without spending $150 on the shifter alone then Logitech is the best way to go.
I decided to get t300rs but when i went to get one, it was more than double the price of g29. Hence I chose g29. My friend got a t128. We both are noobs and just play for fun together with our friends. Imo, honestly both the wheels are awesome. Just get any force feedback wheel that falls in your budget. For serious sim racing dd is the best i guess.
I started on a g27 back when it released in 2010 playing rFactor drifting online (sorta) with mates via a vpn and some trickery to appear as a local network... anyway I used that bolted to my table right up until about 2016 when I figured I should invest something into my hobby. I got a GT Omega frame which set off a wild change of events for even better immersion. I then got a full Fanatec setup and vr which led into a full Trak Racer extrusion rig.
It's an expensive hobby. XD Great video.
I have G27 for almost 10 years. Back then this was premium. :)
Great video! Appreciate the advice. I went with the full budget build route to save money for my real e36 lol. Hoping it translates to the real thing well enough. A little concerned that I’ll have to upgrade if it starts to reinforce bad habits tho.
Yeah I get that lol. Been looking at upgrading my pedals but at the same time trying to get some seats for the Z. Assuming you're talking logitech, def play around with whatever LUT updates people recommend. Not to say you can't transition from logi, but I can definitely see it being easier from Thrustmaster.
BRUH…..nicely done dude and thanks for the info…..I’m looking at set ups and was eyeing the Logitech g920-whatever but didn’t feel right, now I know why.
Upgraded my PC from a 3080 to a 4090, as well as every other part recently. This made me want to try sim racing as modern racing games look incredible at maxed out graphics, and I went for a Fanatec CSL DD + F1 wheel + CSL Elite V2 Pedals, for cockpit a Playseat trophy (no space for a playseat F1 ultimate) and a G9 Neo 49", and sometimes using my Quest 3 for VR. Well worth the money, I highly recommend spending more if possible. Between playing on my setup and my friends, who uses a g29 clamped to his desk, its light and day. He comes over a lot more often now to "hang out" meanwhile he just sits and races all day. Anyways good vid.
Bro!! This was very helpful thankyou for the tips man
hahahaha great video!! Awesome and complete content, well presented and good humor! Congrats
Great video, I have a baisc rig set up, with a Logic wheel mounted to a basic desk, but I use VR, I find especially with drifting that I drive a lot harder than using the screen.
Looking for some advice. I want to get into simnracing but I don't have the money to buy a new pc. I'm currently gaming on an Acer predator Triton 300 gaming laptop with an i7--11800H processor at 2.3GHz would this be able to run the racing Sims sufficiently or would it struggle?
Thank you for this this is actually really helpful
Thank you for a concise, informative presentation. Your real world driving experience adds valuable credibility to your opinions.
started with a 923 and shifter, it was a great decision. The price point also didnt scare my friends away from jumping in the game with me, i currently have a logitech g pro direct drive, you cant find a negative review about it online, logitech still hasnt let me down, however if money isnt a issue of course theres other options, but even with logitech only having 1 wheel ATM you know more are coming
People always forget this one. The upgrades they did from the G29 and G920 are great. Small amount of haptics on the wheel itself makes the audio of the vehicles rumble your experience even better. Also the pedal upgrade, so much more realistic until you get a pedal set with loadcells. Best starter pedals IMO. I used the G923 for a solid year with no complaints BUT the noise when racing offroad.
Most informative and funny video. Thank you!!
This is the most helpful video I've seen, what is the name of your cockpit... it is PERFECT for what I need.
I’ve rocked a g920 for 3 years and have no complaints
Love the channel man, I’ve been sim racing/drifting for a few years and have really been looking into buying another 350z to drift, and you showing your experiences/progress makes it a lot less intimidating. Also what do you do for practicing tandems? not to be mean but alot of people in some of the popular servers are still learning lol. Just wondering if maybe there’s more serious servers, or maybe discord groups. Figured I’d ask. Love the content!
Awesome to hear, honestly my main goal for the channel is to make it less intimidating and get other folks to make the jump.
I'm sure there are some more serious servers out there but I just join whatever and drift around a bit until you spot the few folks on the server who look decent, then start snugging up. This is very much how real life tandems have been in my experience as well, spotting for the people closest to your skill/car level who look consistent enough to avoid wrecking your car. Then approach and ask if they'd be up for tandems.
Then inevitably some body smacks into you from behind and wrecks the whole train lol.
Super useful video. Thank you, you earned a sub
This is a very usefull video, thanks for making it
Due to low budget i got myself a thurstmaster t248, which is both, gear and belt driven. With small diameter wheel it feels toyish but it's quite hard to change it. As entry level i think it's acceptable because it has simmilar price to Logitech but has got the belt
Oy! I just recently picked up a 64-bit e-brake for the Omega Apex (Same folding stand you have), but had to buy an auxiliary plate to even attach it next to my shifter. We actually have the same wheelbase and the 8 shifter. Unfortunately my brake is on the outside of the shifter, and that's caused some wrist strikes a few times.
I see yours is mounted with the brake against the inner bar though. What did you cobble together to make that work?
Here is what the shifter plate looks like. If I remember correctly I moved the shifter towards the outside so it's still utilizing some of the original holes, then drilled a handful of new ones.
imgur.com/a/lBxKDji
Used a Logitech g920 wheel for a long time now. Tried learning to drift and couldn’t do it. Spent weeks at a time learning, then going away and coming back again with same result. Then I got a direct drive wheel yesterday and within half hour of trying to drift once I got use to the wheel, I was doing donuts more consistently, gaining back control at corners more consistently and actually drifting without spinning out. Sure I still spin out. But it feels like I actually started to get it. And looking forward to using it more on days off to learn. Also my lap time has improved slightly on the brands hatch course. But I think that’s because the feedback is faster to feel, and more responsive.
Logitech us best for beginners with low budget. I have my G29 almost since release, no issues at all, still works great. I'm saving money now for G Pro or Moza setup.
excellent video on sim setup
Great video!
Finally someone speaking the truth about Logitech. I had one for 3 hours. Told myself if this is what sim racing was then I wasn't interested.
Got a t300 and lo and behold it felt like driving a car and not a box of gears.
I saw your down to earth ad! I’m in a similar situation of starting a CZcams channel and I drift at Lanier too! Has that ad been a major driver for your channel or what other means do you actively track these days?
great video for beginner bro good job
do you have a recommendation for a larger diameter steering wheel for t300rs?
I just got my g29 and I’m in love with it never have a problem other than I don’t have a good place to mount it so I Jerry rigged it and still one of the best wheels I’ve owned
I have a ps4 but probably getting the 5 in a few months I went a wheel peddle and a shifter and possibly a handbrake under 600$ what do yall recommend
Hey man - I’m only just finding the video now; I have a GT Omega Apex and I’m interested in what model of playseat you are using in the video. Any info you could provide would be great, thanks!
Sorry I saw this and forgot to respond. Honestly I don't necessarily recommend that setup, it was convenient but I had to disassemble a lot of the playseat to make it work.
It's was just the regular cheap hammock looking playseat that I modified.
Fantastic video! Following this to a T
I second everything you said in the video lol. I'm currently running a logitech g920 +shifter +keyboard ebrake that I've modded into feeling more """realistic""", such as increased brake and clutch resistors, resistor bands in the shifter and, after snapping the gear on my first g920, upgradging to a more sturdy gearset.
What I can tell people wanting to start off is to NOT BUY LOGITECH. It is almost a guarantee that you will run into issues with your setup and teach yourself bad habits along the way to compensate. To compound those issues, unless you're really tech savvy or know what a drift car is actually supposed to feel like then you likely won't even know that you're teaching yourself bad habits along the way.
On top of that, logitech software is notorious for bugging out and im currently experiencing centering issues with my logitech even after a complete PC/hardware wipe and LUT mapping my wheel.
All in all, seat time is king, even on a sim, but sub-par seat time isn't doing you any favors.
Lol I'm impressed with the level of effort you went through to make the logitech decent. Let your story be a cautionary tale.
@@JankyDrift you can polish a turd, but at the end of the day it's still a turd lol.
I have gotten multiple friends into sim racing with the logitech, its a great starter wheel for someone unsure if they actually want to sim race.
I used to race modded clunkers at an old dirt track when I was a kid, then I got married, had kids and life kind of got in the way of my favorite past time. Kids are teenagers, I'm out of the army, so I'm ready to get back into this without the risk of dying in a car fire. Thank you so much.
Definitely feel you on getting less daring as i get older. Check out the game wreck fest if you haven't already, don't think the physics are as realistic but might be up your alley.
What about the T248 compared to the T300? I am currently wondering between those two, especially since they seem the be the same price around where I live in the used market
Hi, thanks for the video. I want to know if I can set up 2 racing wheels to race with a friend, 2 player split screen or preferably dual vr. Is that possible? Please help. Thank you
I don't think it is possible on the same system, sorry.
amazing video thank you bro
Tempted to get the new Logitech G pro wheel and pedal setup but feel like ill be overpaying a bit. any recommendations for something a bit cheaper with the same 11nm of torque? and also foldable cockpit setups for someone over 6ft?
A lot of folks seem to like Simagic as an entry level DD setup. I'm running the alpha mini right now which is decent, and I've heard good things about the Moza R9. Looks like packages for those can both be had for quite a bit under logitech. Wheelstand I have no idea, I'm short as hell so that's not a problem I have lol.
I will upgrade my PC this year and I will focus on building my first SIM RACING RIG next year. It is always my dream to have a SIM RACING RIG at home since I was a kid.
Lmao I just bought a g29. I completely agree that you have to do a lot yourself but it is cool drifting around. I'm also not old enough to drive so I wouldn't know what its like. Great video though!
Eh, at the end of the day any wheel is better than no wheel. Appreciate it!
What steering wheel to buy if your on xbox. Really wanting to start my rig but now idk if I should buy the Logitech or not..
Okay you got me with that paid ad, gotta love an honest beggar haha. Earned a sub
Nice Z, I have a DE with alot of money dumped in it. Will def go with fanatec DD pro for my first rig.
Appreciate it. Was never a fan of the 350z back in the day but this car has def won me over.
I want a sim racing setup . Also I know I’m getting the Thrustmaster T300 . But brother please advice me of how to buy this whole thing . Someone told me to buy everything separately. But I noticed it costs way more when I’m adding the thurstmaster T300 servo then the steering wheel , pedals and gear shifter . I do want the bigger steering wheel though. So please if u have any advice for me it would be a huge blessing.
Going from the T300 RS to the fanatec DDpro 8nm with load cells= massive difference. And now Gt7 in vr 👌. Excellent. I don't play ACC anymore. I think the DD pro even on console is a lot better compared to using the T300 RS on pc. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong. Dirt 2.0 and wrc generations. Amazing. F1 2022...very good with the DD pro and mclaren open wheel. It's still som cade, I know. Gt7 compared to ACC had a lot more to offer. Sim cade or not. And gt7 now on psvr2. Was my best racing experience ever. The interiors in vr are insane. Not one game has that.
No one cares if sim cade or not, the fun you having is what matters. Enjoy it the way u wanna
@@AliceinWonderlands indeed. This sim cade vs real sim debate is so funny.
A year ago i got the chance of getting a Thrustmaster TGT with a playseat alcantara for 650 euros, then i bought the SSH shifter new with the side plate for the playseat then a Rift s headset second hand and then i ordered a 16 bit hall sensor handbrake new, overall i'm so happy with my setup, racing GT cars is allot of fun and drifting is even more fun, only part is i'm more towards drifting and my friends are more towards GT racing, overall budget was 1100 and my pockets are still burning, great video whould recommend it to everyone who's thinking on buying a wheel.
BTW maby a bit random but if anyone is down to drift at any point pls let me know, i'm down for anycars even vdc
Zero regrets on g27 and then g923. It's a pretty good start.
Thank for the info! I recently purchased my first sim rig; therefore, I've kept it relatively cost effective by purchasing the GT Omega Classic wheel stand and seat mount. I picked a driver seat from a 2015 Mini Cooper for $100 from a junk yard (saved me $200). Lastly, I went with the Logitech G923 to go with my PSVR2 headset. If I enjoy this rig, I will upgrade the components, including the wheel. In your opinion, if money were not an option, which wheel and pedal setup would you choose?
Honestly I have no idea. There's a bunch of sim focused channels out there that could probably answer better than I can in terms of expensive gear, but my focus is generally bang for the buck because I'm trying to also balance the cost of drifting in real life.
My setup now is a decent low-mid range:
Simagic Alpha Mini
Thrustmaster TLCM
TM TH8A shifter
Gt Omega Art
If I had a bunch of money I'd probably go higher end and include a motion rig, but would really have to do some more research to see what that would be.
@@JankyDrift Hobbies, why do they have to be so expensive? HAHA! - Thanks for the quality feedback!
Janky awesome video. Two questions:
1. Can you link the steering wheel/hand brake? any mods required? did you follow a video or did I miss a video that you had of it?
2. For $500-600 would you skip the Thrustmaster and just go with a MOZA R5 Wheel & Pedal Bundle?
1. Steering wheel and handbrake links below. For the full size wheel on a T300 you need an adapter, which you can find aluminum ones for $30-40. I have a 3D printer, so I just printed my own at 100% infill, but most of the 3D printed ones you find for sale aren't printed at high enough infill to last.
Handbrake plugs into your PC, so no mods required there, just can't use it on console.
2. Complicated question... If that $600 budget includes all your peripherals I'd probably suggest T300 since you can build out a more complete sim setup for the same price, (full size steering wheel and adapter, hand brake, wheel stand, and so on). Plus you can usually find some good used deals on the T300 and save some money for VR if you don't already have it. Now if you have that $600 budget specifically for the wheelbase, go direct drive. It's not a million times better as a lot of people say, but it's definitely better (faster rotation, higher sustained torque). As someone new to the hobby I generally recommend going the used cheap route first to make sure you're going to stick with it.
The wheel I was using: www.ebay.com/itm/234648150527?epid=12027951908
The handbrake (looks like the cheaper version without the clamp is out of stock):
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V79MXF2
Thank you for this info i startet with sim racing because of you thank you . But what cockpit do you use because my doesnt fit the pedals.
Hey glad you jumped on board. I really like the GT Omega cockpits. Originally I had the apex, and now I have the art. They are designed to fit most of the popular pedals on the market.
It’s more expensive but I’m of the camp of buying stuff that you won’t replace in the future.
Investing in a strong rig right from the go is the way to go. So in the future when you upgrade to a direct drive you know your rig will be able to handle it.
I also recommend going straight to a load cell brake pedal. Sure spring loaded potentiometer pedals will get you started but you’re going to be giving lap time up.
I don't disagree if you've got the cash to burn and know you're going to stick with it. But at the same time FB marketplace is generally littered with setups that people thought they were going to stick with and didn't. I still say if this is your first foray there's nothing wrong with a beginner setup to test the waters.
You'd also be amazed at how many people I get arguing for bottom of the line logitech gear being good enough.
That depends on your situation. If you're not sure you're going to really get into the hobby you don't want to shell out a bunch of cash on something you may seldom use as using lower-end things can be great for getting your foot through the door as someone who doesn't have a lot of expendable cash.
Being cheaper also means you can get something faster if it requires time to save. As a result, it can be worth it in terms of getting your hand on something that much sooner as and you can still save for the higher-end thing or you might even just get comfortable with what you already purchased (resulting in you not needing to upgrade) as bear in mind these things have severe diminishing returns in some cases.
It's a similar logic to hire purchase where you pay more in the long run but you get your hand on the thing you want that much faster, you just have to consider your situation and find out what works best as there is no one-size fits all solution; bear in mind the cost and time differs by region in some cases. Not only does your job determine your income but also what country you do it in
Thanks this helps alot
I have the same Handbrake as you but the Telemetri is fucked up, if i dont pull its on 40 %, if i pull it half its on 0& and if i pull to the end its on 80%. You know how to fix it ?
what about diy belt driven wheels (with a decent motor) are they any good
Great advice! I followed exactly none of it. I decided to go with the G920 on Xbox in front of my TV using a home built stand I made out of scrap 2x4's and plywood... cost next to nothing and it's super fun :)
i have the same wheels stand. how did you mount the handbrake and shifter on the same plate. i have the Logitech shifter and i cant find a way to mount my handbrake
I drilled new holes and moved the shifter over to make space for the handbrake. Not 100% sure how that would look on the logi as the thrustmaster shifter had equal spaced holes on both sides but guessing you should be able to do something similar.
Hands down the best, no nonsense, video for people looking to get into sim drifting. Good stuff.
I mainly use my g920 for American truck simulator so I’m happy with it plus got it for under 200 new so was a good price point
What chassis are you using I’m looking for a sturdy one because I’m tired of my desk shaking from my ffb
I'm currently running the GT Omega Art cockpit. It gets the job done for me... Could definitely be more sturdy but I'm sure 100 times better than the desk mount.
Nice comparison/tips and here I am just subbed to this guys because of his jokes.
Nice video.
I few years back I got the T-150. I don’t recommend it, some times the wheel doesn’t give any feedback of what the car is doing
you have the same music with the guys over at missedapex podcast! took me a while to figure out. both you guys occupy the racing scene so I guess also have similar taste in music? Moved from a g29 to a tspc. but the shift from potentiometer to Thrustmaster's TS-PC definitely was the bigger upgrade. Good stuff!
Lol its one of the few free metal songs you can get from the CZcams library without them hitting you with copyright claims. Similar taste in music, probably, but just as much having limited choices. 😭