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What was your first wheel?
just recently got a t300rs gt from black friday deal for 300 euros :D
lol ferrari 458 spider wheel for xbox, still want to buy a proper force feedback wheel
First wheel was the official Microsoft xbox 360 wheel. Then a very faulty Thrustmaster tx, and then when the guy who was supposed to fix it stole it, i downgraded to a very faulty Thrustmaster tmx. Now i have nothing. Fun times.
Cant remember my first wheel, it was a bungee cord one that I did not enjoy. Soon after that I got my first FFB wheel the Logitech driving force pro, which I received in December 2003 and I have been racing ever since
Logitech Momo, now I own G923 with Shifter on a DIY cockpit very strong... it's crazy how logitech still with almost the same wheel... I don´t wanna be the guy who ask after a guide. But I live in venezuela and i'm thinking about get a Moza R5 or Fanatec CSL DD, because my budget, so... In your direct opinion wich one would you pick?
Beside that, thanks for your content!
(BTW: I play on PC)
I brought my first wheel a Logitech G920 at super low price Black Friday offer of £179. WHY I haven't Ihad a wheel and pedal set before is beyond me! I am having so much fun!! 😊👍
Bruh 179 is a freakin steal 👀
Enjoy mate, I got the G29 few months ago on sale and it's the perfect pair with VR for Beamng and truck Sims.
I bought g920 black friday 2022. After that things snowballed a bit and now i have Simucube 2 pro, VRS pedals and full aluminium rig, so be prepared to spend a fortune on simgear😂
Same here, just got a refurbished G923 from Amazon for $250, thinking why did I wait so long. It’s a lot of fun, currently started on ACC.
I got mine for 160£ with shifter!! Loving it learning to drive while also zooming on no hesi! Anyone ever wanna play let me know ha might even show eachother some cool settings or maps
I simply use a G25 given to me by a mate for free many many years ago, on my boyfriend’s desk! I’ve spent all my money on upgrading our gaming PC, a Quest2 VR headset, and DLC. See no need to upgrade my wheel until it breaks, I still get top 5 results in RF2 races with it! Even then I might get a second hand G29 or something 😂
I’ve started with a T150, after a couple of years I upgraded to a T300GT , which is an excellent option for me still today if you don’t want to go for a DD , now I have with my T300 an acelith MC mod rim, a Ferrari 599x rim, TH8A shifter and the T-LCM pedals with the loadcell .. will stay like that till thrusmaster makes an “affordable “ DD or will have to change to an other ecosystem in some years
I build my first simracing setup few mounts ago for around $700 (using Xbox series s)
Thrustmaster tx base-used
Th8a shifter- used
T3pa pro- used
Sparco r383 wheel- used
NanoRS wheel stand- new
Price variance from region/country to country really plays a big role here. Where I am you cannot find a G29 lower than 330 euro. Whereas the T128 is at 180 to 200. Its the clear winner from the two wheels hands down for that price difference.
Logitech 923. True force and a good brake pedal is where a beginner gets hooked! Now I’m looking at direct drives… expensive hobby, but crazy fun.
Don't forget the CAMMUS C5, an excellent Direct Drive option at a very competitive price.
Especially if you have little space and don't have a cockpit, it can fit anywhere.
He did provide an overview of the Cammus C5 @ 9:45
Not really an option in many parts of Europe a C5 bundle Cost more then a Moza R5 kit here in Sweden for example.
Be aware of the Logitech G29 noise level - sometimes gears are producing clanking noise like it's a jackhammer (when I setup it to my desk - my neighbors downstairs got real mad, they thought I was doing apartment repairs in the middle of the night).
Great wheel otherwise for its money, served me well for more than 5 years and is still going.
It is a great wheel and God damn the noise is so annoying but I do wish it was a little stronger somehow. But I guess I need to upgrade now. Been playing on it for almost 4 years now
Thorough review! Thanks. I continue with my Logitech EX5D12 which is a fantastic mid range set up
Still running a t300Gt several years later. The wheelbase and wheel itsefl are simply good enough. I don't feel they're holding me back at all. The pedals however are fairly weak. The T3pa brake pedal leaves a lot to be desired.
I think the T300 pairs very well with the SHH Newt shifter.
Just bought a T128 as my first wheel and im very pleased with it.
My first wheel, that I still use for ETS2/ATS is the Logitech Driving Force GT (2007!). It was the predecessor of the G27.
It was gear based, and came with an up/down stick shift permanently molded on the right side, as well as padel shifters that did have the large padel wings. People still sell the DYI mounts to put padels on is, or print your own. IT's archaic by today's standards and the pedals aren't great, and only 2. But it has done me OK until now. I drifted more to the flight games than racing, so it does the trick.
I bought the Thrustmaster T248 last year. I'm glad I bought this one. I love it!
The force feedback is great and the 12 extra 'buttons' are a great feature
I’m building a gaming room and I’ve always wanted to get into iRacing but really don’t have any idea what kind of equipment to get or anything like that. Loved this video for information. Thanks
I bought a broken G920 wheel for $75AUD about 4 month ago, then found some broken pedals that matched for $45AUD, fixed them both then swapped to larger 350mm Momo and they have been amazing. The lager wheel has made the most difference to my driving because I find the standard one to small. Great first setup.
Just upgraded my old T150 to the T300RS with the Ferrari SF1000 wheel and im loving it so far!
I will Definitely upgrade the base to the T818 if i ever have the money though!
I had a g923 with a super basic seat, sold them both and upgraded to a r12 and actual seat.
You are advertising fanatec without mentioning the delivery problems and the qr1 problems. That's not right.
Thousands have been waiting months for their fanatec orders.
Sad but most of these people have a deal with them or work in some way with Fanatec. That's why the ignore those problems. I just commented the same thing. I disregard there tips when I hear them push Fanatecs garbage as number 1. They also seem to find imaginary deals for Sim Equipment. There pricing is way off when you start looking to buy Sim gear based off the information provided.
I’ve been heavy on sim racing especially drifting for 3 years but for some unknown reason I never bought a e-brake 😂
Around a year ago I got my T300 RS GT set and a TH8A shifter for €415 total, adding some cheap QoL upgrades from Etsy and 3DRAP, it has been a great experience and value so far and totally worth it in order to see whether "this whole sim thing is for me".
Conclusion: Next week I will upgrade to Asetek's La Prima wheelbase and probably not leave this rabbit hole any time soon ..
Just bought my first wheel ..f gt 2 can’t wait to try it when I’ve set it up
I think that a good set of load cell pedals makes a much larger difference in feedback or consistency than the wheel you start out with.
I bought a DFGT to play the Tech Preview of Assetto Corsa, back in 2013.
I pledged to only buy something once the DFGT breaks. Now i'm praying for it to break so i can be forced to buy something else.
Sure, i upgraded the pedals and i'm using the G Shifter, but the wheel itself is still rock solid.
Honestly I have a Microsoft Sidewinder with force feedback I got for $30 and it's pretty good for the money. That'd be my suggestion
i got a TMX pro set , TMX is the xbox twin for the T-150 pro just meant it came with triple pedals , was around $300 been enjoying it for 3 4 years now
My first wheel was the csl elite bundle f1 and I loved it. just wish that they would have offered the gt dd pro around the same time, as I wanted to have ps5 compatibility. The csl elite wheelbase for playstion was just too much for me at the time for it still being belt driven.
I know people hate the Thrustmaster t248 but I got one from Best Buy that was an open box for 264 and for the price, I think it's better than the logitech options for sure. Currently that wheel goes for 400 us dollars.
Good job on the video. It’s so hard to select your first hardware. PC or PlayStation compatibility? I was focused on PC so I started with a Thrustmaster TMX Pro bundle. Fanatec is great I’m sure but lately their warehouse delays and lack of communication and proprietary ecosystem are major negatives. Moza I think would be the best starting point. Personally I upgraded to a Cammus DDWB 15, wheel, and pedals bundle under $1000 US. I recently added the Moza KS wheel and Moza hub. This hobby ain’t cheap!
I went for the Cammus C5 and didn't think I'd regret it, but then I felt the call of Gran Turismo 7. Having so much fun with that, even at 1080p 60FPS "low settings" that I almost wish I'd shelled out more for a PS-compatible DD.
C5's an unbeatable value, I'm gonna hope we get a GT7 PC port sometime. That would be the friggin' best, man.
@@nickstarlingchGT is PS exclusive, it never has left PS ecosystem
It ain't cheap at all! I just ordered the Moza R9 but I'm coming from a Logitech G920 so I'm super excited for the upgrade 😁
@@nickstarlingch I'm in the same boat. I don't have a PS5. I do hear their are some universal hubs out there that might allow you to use PC sim gear for PS5 but I haven't really explored it.
Very informative, thanks! Can I suggest you speak a little slower when giving the model numbers, or having the names printed on the screen? I was not able to make out a couple of them, including after trying a couple of times.
Again, really appreciate the thorough video and subscribed!
Hi! I’m starting up racing on F1 23 on PS5. Looking for budget wheel. Will the Thrustmaster T80 work on PS5 or do I need to look at the T150 or the T128? Potentially looking at upgrading to the Logitech GW29?
G29, or CSL DD or Moza R3 or R12... there basically the main 4 I'd consider.
Although G923 does seem to spin faster than a G29
Of course this video come out right after I bought a fanatec direct drive wheel time to play the waiting game with fanatec
Did you get yours yet? 5 Nm or 8 Nm?
@@Cloxxki I got lucky with my order it came in a week after I ordered it
@@Cloxxki 8nm
I got 2nd hand fanatec csl v2.5 and it has been amazing coming from g29
G920 got me hooked. Onto a DD Pro now with a few different wheels
Same! Just ordered a Moza R9 with Quick-release 😀
Got the T248 along with the TH8A shifter for about 400€ when the wheel came out. Looking to upgrade to a 480€ CSL DD with the McLaren wheel. How much do you guys reckon I can get for the shifter and wheel?
I've been seeing a few videos about the PXN v12, I was wondering if you had plans to review it, since i am genuinely curious about it.
I just got an op deal on a g923 for 150$ used with a shifter and pedals
IMO, except super cheap 2nd hand G29/T150, right now the Cammus C5 is a no brainer for an entry-level wheel, it costs around €300 shipped here in Europe and its immensely better than any other Logitech/Thrustmaster/Fanatec belt driven wheel.
I have a Logitech GT Driving Force Wheel with just the throttle and Brake pedal. I have had it for 10+ years and got it for a steal at Goodwill for $25 it still works but I'm ready fro something more powerful and accurate.
like just how? In our countries its so expensive :(
I got my first wheel for free from my moms friends boyfriend its a ferrari 458 spyder for xbox and still use it
Thanks for the video, I'm looking for a Thrustmaster steering wheel.
I have a TGT, is is worth going to the DD pro?
I just got a CSL DD with a Universal Hub V2, The Clubsport 320 leather wheel and the CSL pedals. My shifter I got a Moza HPG a few months earlier.
I went with the CSL pedals with the Loadcell upgrade, as I'm planning on modding the clutch and brake with Race Sim Engineering kits, to get that two stage clutch feedback. Also, I need to add some rubber pads onto the pedals stoppers, as they are too loud when you Toe-heel it.
This is my thirt wheel so far. My last one is a G29 which will be sold to a friend from the office.
My first wheel was a Thrustmaster Ferrari 458 wheel. No feedback and it was mainly for Euro Truck Sim.
I got 923 Logitech and I love it ! I don’t see the limitations of a gear driven wheel as a casual player of gt7
I got my wheel second hand for £30 but it retails new for £60 at a shop in the UK called B&M Bargains - XR Racing Wheel V2 and it works fine , but when it comes to Racing Wheels there is a lot of flexing and snobbery as not everyone can afford what some people call " Cheap " .......
Just snatched a thrustmaster t500rs set in mint condition only for 200 euro. Used market is less trustable but the best money to performance ratio.
Pxn v12 lite is a really good wheel as well
Logitech g920 great starter wheel. I still use mine to this day. Still tons of fun compared to controller. Will be upgrading soon
T300RSGT then I upgraded the pedals to TLCM have since bought a TGT still using the TLCM Pedals and a TH8S.
I got a thrustmaster tmx for 60$ now just waiting to upgrade pedals!
Logitech's TrueForce is okay if you turn it down as if the level is set to high then it feel horrid in grid 2019 I only have it set at 10 on my g pro wheel any more than that and it just feels useless
Its 2024, wouldn't be recommending fanatec any more with all their issues. Also if you want drifting a DD of some sort is a MINIMUM.
T300rs i sold it because i was bored and covid came and buy the csl elite and now i have the gt dd pro 8nm with v3 pedals and 5 whells...with a playseat challenger...only for ps4/5 my pc is broke😢😢😢😢😢😢
Hello - very long boring story cut short - I've been using my Rog strix/scar beast of a laptop (nvidia rtx 3080, ryzen 9 5900hx with 1080p 300hz 3ms panel) - hooked up to 165ms 1440p 27" external monitor via usb-C to display port for highest frame rate (165hz,whereas hdmi limited to either 60 &/or 120hz). Been using monitor with folding playseat & logitech G29. Absolutely thoroughly enjoyed it but sold a fortnite ago and regretted since.
I'm due an upgrade though & felt as such before getting rid. Question is; What do I go for?! I'm in two minds between fanatec dd with Loadcell pedals or simply thrustmaster rs gt & t3pa pedals.. I used to play assetto corsa & iracing. Not fastest racer in world yet but struggled with fov & only practiced around 6month - consistent top half finisher. I don't know the differences between all of the different fanatecs csl / elite(s) and versions Vs.. the pros or cons.. nor pedals..I have the knowledge of gear driven < belt driven < direct drive. And load cell pedals better than none, but many other factors too of course
Reality of situation is was moments away from setting off to pick up thrustmaster t300rs gt with stand tou drag upto a chair - 4 months old 200gbp - this morning. Didn't happen as was debating...Then decided YOLO!! Was in the process of setting off this evening for a fanatec DD wit load cell pedals and booster kit in a folding next level racing seat for around 600 this eve - BUT - somebody beat me to it.
Atfirst was totally gutted as I was impulse buying and we all know how excited we get as MEN... but maybe uts a sign to just stick with thrustmaster, enjoy the upgrade from my G29/G920 and enjoy the VR too as never used before... THEN upgrade again next yr or something to fanatec..?? I'm just a bit stuck and chronic overthinker, been frozen wirhbdecision paralysis all day!! Hoping for advice on best wheels/pedals, maybe in order and / or pros cons of the mid/top end range. Then there is the moza r9 which I have been advised to go for but I'm aiming to buy pre owned & not many about.
Another thing to potentially note is I aim to purchase and use with quest 3 VR headset.
Any advice taken, very much appreciated & thankyou for reading!
The MOZA R3 should be coming out in February for 400 usd. But shipping is alot. Best to goes through of of thier resellers.
I ordered the CSL DD Bundel today for 3,99€ with accessories like CSL Pedale Clutch Kit, ClubSport Shifter SQ V, 2 table clamps. I paid a total of 789.39€."
I have a question, i have a H shifter 6 gears, how does that work with truck simulators ?
My first wheel IS the logitech driving force GT but its clearly too old and im gonna get a Csl DD soon
I had a hori racing wheel apex, the worst wheel ever and then made a huge upgrade to the t248 which is alright
Hello, I'm looking for my first wheel. I'm very excited to play ets2, Assetto Corsa, Forza etc. on a steering wheel because I'm bored with playing on the gamepad. The Moza wheels seem very interesting for me, I'm thinking about the Moza R5, but there is a new Moza R3 that is $100 cheaper - and should I buy the R3, and when the power will be too low for me, buy a stronger wheel base (?). Or maybe I should just buy the r5 and be happy. I don't want any g29 or t300 because they are looking big, and I don't have much space on my desk and my room is small so I think I can't buy any wheel stand :(
25euro for a second hand G25 + shifter. xD couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the listing. came in the bag and original packaging.
I have a G920 for sale if anyone is interested. Comes with pedals (modded with GTEye brake spring) and Logitech shifter. Issue with pedal inputs flickering (may need a sensor clean)
I got a G29 with pedals for £150 and it works perfectly
How loud is it?
its pretty loud tbh@@smasherrr07
I see the Logitech one on sale for 179 online but 300 in best buy so I'm going to order it from Walmart cause I've played with the Logitech before and the feedback was too realistic!! I loved it. Like you thought you could hit 200mph yea try again hahahaha
Thrustmaster T150 has terrible force feedback. On the other hand it is cheap and relatively durable. After 5 years the pedals broke and then i paired it up with t-lcm pedals. Wheel is fine, but force feedback is weak and simple. That is as low as i would go with a racing wheel. What is cheaper is total crap and i agree with you about that.
Before I even watch the video, if there is any non DD wheel recommended to be bought new, don't listen that it is well worth it to put the extra 100€/$/what ever it is in pounds. And nothing without at least 900degrees of rotation, and force feedback falls in to that category as well.
Did you make a selection yet? Just curious, I’m in the same boat. Thinking of buying a t-gt 2 with tlcm pedals bc the jump to a worthy DD for use with playstation is crazy. Logitech G Pro looks sick but no ecosystem.
What’s the difference between G920 and G923?
Would a g29 or g20 be better?
The only wheels I would avoid used are the t300 and TX as iv repaied tons of them at this stage, when new they are fantastic but if they had a lot of use the plastics on the inside can start to fail
so are logi better for durability? cus my used wheel is pretty much over a decade old
All tx? Looking to sell the Ferrari xbox version and haven't had an issue. Had it years with low use
My first wheel is the 3d printed wheel piece for my controller
But im buying the t300rs this month as my first set up
So, how is the wheel?
I have the Thrustmaster T128, it's very small and the pedals are meh. Bought it for 115 euro's on amazon. This year i want to upgrade to a DD wheel to drive better in Euro Truck Simulator 2
I really don't know why I'm wstching this, I already have a complete sim racing set up..
For all the supposed abilities of the new value DD wheels, availability doesn't seem to be a reality and unfortunately that just makes them kinda pointless to me!
I agree... couldn't find them in stock anywhere locally, or on any simracing sites in my country. I ended up ordering my DD wheel straight from the manufacture website, where it ended up being cheaper (Moza)
0:04 Nice cat
Meow
G29 DFGT - $50 /Thx for the content
Did u wrap your csl wheel rim? It looks different in materials with the stock one
no. its the old p1
The TX, T300 are excellent choices for solid racing. It will last until the budget and desire allows for better equipment. Or to realize sim racing is bot a big deal for you. I rocked my Tx to dust, amazing
"Peanuts Money"
@randomcallsign try the new Pxn V99 it's there 2024 model a huge upgrade from the v10.
I have the g29, the brake however is extremely stiff. worst part about it
cammus c5 and t3pa pedals for abt 350 you get direct drive and it is easily mounted on desk
This is a long shot, but is anyone aware of direct drive wheels that work on Linux and ACC?
Pxn v12 dds review please
Great, I just my pxm v9 as my first steering wheel…. lolol oh well, it was cheap at least. Glad I got to look forward to crap coming in the mail tho. Fun fun fun!
My expirience, i have a t300 gt (with the clutch) and it is wonderfull, i mainly do rally (rbr) so all Type of surfaces. I got it second hand for 200€ and its WAY better then a g29 in ffb and pedals, if you are looking for a cheap but solid entry i praise for the t300 as a perfect first purchase. Not that bad and a perfect step before DD, still looking for some Time using it before upgrading, been having it for about 4 months now. IMO the perfect Non DD setup
I agree bro, t300 is the best starting wheel.
Well I mean the t300 has double the force feedback so that's not surprising
Try the V12 lite and v12 both pxn it's there high end
i have the t150 and it works but not very good because i think something inside broke like 2 years ago
The unspoken advantage of a cheap first wheel is most people won't realize how inconvenient the experience is
The bargains are out there. I bought my first wheel last week from Facebook Marketplace. It is a G29 with the shifter on a Next Level Racing frame for £129/€150/USD$163.
in AUD g29 at jb hi fi it cost $549
I have a g29 and am looking at getting a nlr gt lite pro as I want a folding rig for space reasons and my current wheelstand is a bit dodgy. I also am looking at the pro over the regular to give me more headspace in case i want to upgrade to dd and load cell in the future.
Does anyone have any other suggestions of things like that i should look at? My only requirements are that it has to be able to fit in a small space (ideally folding for that reason), needs to have a shifter plate and needs to be more of a budget option (max around £300)
I picked up a NLR GT Lite and a g923 on sale on black Friday here in the States. I can't speak for the pro but I've loved my GT Lite thus far, so I'd imagine the pro would be just as good. It's a lot sturdier and comfortable than I though it would be. It is a bit tricky to get it to fold but it becomes a lot easier once you get used to how the folding mechanisms work.
I got the GT omega apex wheelstand, folds up pretty small but is really heavy, I have it with my g29 and combined they weight almost fifty pounds, maybe more
I recently got a PS3 from a family member and I bought a secondhand Thrustmaster T300 to get my son into sim racing on GT5. Can't do in any cheaper, right? But the T300 does not work with GT5. The conrol buttons on the wheel work, but I can't use the wheel. (it worked on PS5 when I bought it) It is set on PS3, it calibrates, etc. But it does not function. I can't seem to find the right guidelines. Anyone can help me out PLEASE???? My son wants to race..
Let him race on the ps5...
i see the lag on the monitor , what none of you do is measure lag , and measure force ,there is a way to to measure force , it can be done , Arduino can be programed to move them , force meter , and measure the force . Its done all the time on motors . It takes a community that you have , some IT guys and there you go , you can get a lot of different parameters measured .
1:29 aw but it's true
i have a G29 and a T300 i want to upgrade to direct drive
Has the Thrustmaster TS-PC STILL not come down in price.... 😉
Theres so much fanatec hate now but fanatec ecosysten has been great to me
Whats the game name? @10:59
If you guys want to complete the topic of this video, I have a channel where I present bench and PCs for Sim Racing that are cheap. Plus game settings and other things so you can actually achieve good Fps with the least expense and expeienc ein computing...Thanks!