All Can-am Ryker Rally Gas Mileage Questions Answered - Over 4K Miles
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- I answer all your questions about Can-am Ryker Rally Edition gas mileage. I tell you the MPG in ECO Mode, Normal Mode, Sport Mode, and Rally Mode. I talk about the mileage that you can expect at first fuel up. I also let you know if Octane makes a difference and if the Ryker gets good miles per gallon.
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I bought my Ryker Rally a few weeks ago. I'm 77 years young and have been riding, and owning motorcycles since I was 15.I've had Suzukis,Kawasakis,Yamahas,Harleys and Hondas of all sizes. Also had an Ossa and a Hodaka.
My last Goldwing, an '07, just got to be too heavy for my old legs. I'm not even going to check my Rally's gas mileage. I absolutely LOVE this machine! I no longer have to worry about gravel or balance, and the power-to-weight ratio makes this thing a fantastic and fun ride! Can't wait to get on it again!!
I’m a couple years behind you in age. I relate to your experience. I had to sell my 2009 Aprilia Touno . I almost dropped it . That’s when I realized I either go to the gym or sell the bike. I sold the bike. I took a test ride on a Ryker and found happiness. 😁. I have a 900 ace with max mount and optional adjustable shock. Also a sport windshield. The next thing will be a custom wrap with a Marine Corp theme😉😊
The Ryker is so much fun. You don't buy one for the gas mileage you buy it for the fun. I just wanted to give some good info out to the viewers. Thank you for watching.
Great content Mark. Be safe!
Thank you Wendy. Good hearing from you. Stay safe also and have fun.
Saw you on a beige so checked your channel and you make great videos
Thank you Angel. I am glad that you enjoy them. I try really hard to keep improving my channel. I really appreciate the kind words.
Thanks, great review, i'm new to my ryker, now 700 km on it, loving it!!
Thank you for watching. I am glad that you enjoyed it and found it helpful.
Great, highly educational video. Makes me rethink me putting 93 in each time. Thanks for opening my eyes! I love the stats! Ryde safe brother!
Thank you. It took me a long time to get the stats. Lots of notes on my phone lol. I use 93 every once and a while to give the Ryker a treat. Keeps the motor slightly cleaner. The gas tax in Pennsylvania is so high though that 93 ends up being really expensive. I wanted to use 87 to see if it caused a ping and some power loss but it runs flawlessly in the Ryker. Ride safe and stay safe. Good hearing from you. Glad you found the video helpful.
@@budyser365 Ryker owners for years to come, will benefit from your hard work. As you mentioned, your riding is mostly side streets. If you ride on the hwy a lot, like me, the mileage gets really bad...the opposite of a car or what most people would think.
Excellent video! Exremely comprehensive and helpful...THANKS !
Thank you. I am glad that I was able to help you out. I appreciate you watching.
Great video😁 i own can am ryker rally edition here in Sweden and i love it😎 my brother also have one. Mine is red and Black and his is yellow and black🙂 keep up the Good work👍
Thank you so much. I am glad that you found it helpful. That is cool that you guys both have Rykers. It must be a lot of fun riding together. My wife and I just started riding together. We are having a blast.
Excellent video Mark. Funnily enough my neighbour was just asking me what the gas mileage was like on the Ryker yesterday. I guessed it was somewhere around there. I find it interesting that there is that improvement in the first few thousand miles. I remember thinking, after your first video on the subject, that I should keep note of my mileage for that very reason, so I downloaded an app that would do the job. After nearly 3000 miles I’ve still not used the app 😂. I’ve never been very organised lol. On a separate note, as I’ve said before, I just love where the road goes past that lake. It is staggeringly beautiful. Stay Safe and Stay Sane Brother. 🙏🏻
Thank you George. As you know I have been keeping track of this info since day one. I know a lot of future owners are interested in the subject. I kept a file in my phone tracking all the info. From what I am seeing, at the 2000 mile mark there is no more improvement.
budyser365 That’s very useful information. I know that a lot of new or prospective Ryker owners want to know that. Certainly I know that I did when I first got Ripley.
Great video!
Thank you. I appreciate you watching. I am glad that you found it helpful.
Good video, I always chuckle when people say they get a big boost in mileage on higher octane. In some engines it does difference in octanes and pinging/over heating the cyclinders is something to watch for
Thanks for watching. I am glad you found it useful. I am at 10k miles and run 87 only now. No issues. The Ryker runs like new.
Octane has to do with compression. The higher the compression ratio of an engine, the higher the recommended octane. You don't want the fuel to ignite under pressure, you want the fuel to ignite with the timing of the spark plug.
Carbon build up on piston will be worse by using the 87-89 octane fuel. 93 octane burns cleaner
i run marine fuel, ethanol free. this is what my dealer said I should use. i think it has some to do with the sea doo engine in Rykers but what is you thought on it verse standard fuels
We only have 95 and 98 octane in Sweden x)
I think I’ll just continue to use 93 but the video was great loved it thanks brother ryde safe #LoneRyker out
I am glad that you enjoyed it. I have been using 87 now most of the time. I have 7000 miles on my Ryker. Still no issues.
@@budyser365 hahaha im a little over 100 miles probably with half the miles work driving miles I wanna drive every day but here in New Orleans you don’t see to many ryker drivers hope to find some one day
@@budyser365 so I spend most of the time riding with @rykerrydes and with you guys from my phone
@@milton2366 We appreciate it. Thank you. I am glad you enjoy our channel.
It was very helpful! Well done and thank you! I planned to buy a Ryker this summer. The 900 ace. Did you have any issues with yours? Is it reliable so far?
Thank you Stephan. I am glad that you found it helpful. I had to get all the recalls and service bulletins fixed. Please see my video.
After the recalls were fixed, it is running great. Over 4000 miles so far with no problems.
If you plan to ride 2-up at all, I would get a Rally. It has the Max mount and many other additions you probably will add to the 900 anyway. Also the Rally suspension is much better. The handling and the way it takes potholes and bumps is much better.
The Rally comes with Better rims (uglier but better lol) radiator grill, much better suspension, hand guards, skid plate, Rally mode (burnout machine), and Max mount.
Whatever you decide, you will have a blast. The 2020 models have all the bugs ironed out. I hope I was able to help you today. If you have any questions, I am happy to help.
@@budyser365 You just convince me to get the Rally! I didn't you there were so many distinctions. Thank you so much for answering so quickly. I'll test drive both but again with what you just wrote, I think it's worth paying more for the Rally.
@@stephan11patriots22 No problem. Always glad to help. If you ever need anything, just ask.
I run 87 octane in my Ryker 600 and average 38mpg mainly highway driving to work and back 45-55mph majority of time.
That sounds pretty good. The 600 definitely gets better gas mileage than the 900. I would love to do a full test on one but don't have access to a 600. Thanks for watching.
have you ever tried an octane boosting chemical to you tank to see what that milage would be? also, how about running gas with no alcohol mix in or blended? does the milage go up any?
I haven't tried Octane Booster at all. Pretty much everyone in my area only offers the same type of gasoline. It would be an interesting test. The computer compensates very well for whatever actane you put in it. 87 even runs great.
Now I'm curious about the 88 Octane (similar to flexfuel) that I've seen around the southern US
If I had to guess, it would probably perform the same as 89 Octane. Just a guess though.
Mileage may very, depending how aggressive you drive. Most ECU’s will compensate for the octane level you run to prevent pre ignition. Does the owner’s manual directly say suggested or recommended?
The dealership where I purchased mine told me to run mid grade or higher.
Got ya, I have been running 92 the whole time. Maybe I’ll try the mid grade.
I'm really surprised that you get more mileage the more that you use it afterwards. You would think it might be the opposit hahah. But thanks for this for information I've been curious about the gas mileage
No problem. Thank you for watching. I am glad that you found it helpful.
@@budyser365 Do you think the same gas mileage would apply for all of the Can-Am models? I'm thinking about getting that $9000 model
@@tjyuy9685 The Ryker 600 gets 3 to 4 MPG miles better than the 900 model. The Rally and Regular 900 get the same gas mileage.
I put the high octane in each tank, and I am getting 33.8 mpg. I have 2800 miles on the Ryker. Although I do have a question about the gauges. I never really know how much fuel is left in the tank because the gauge is so inaccurate. When I fuel up each tank, I zero out the odometer and figure what I get to 120 miles I should be refueling. How does the autonomy feature work. The manual says it shows miles till empty, but I am not seeing how this works. Can you help me figure this out?
Oh I also have o oh run in the sport mode. I prefer smaller highway and country roads over interstate highways, but I do run route 80 at 75 ish mph at times. Just looking for better understanding on how many miles per tank
The Ryker tank size is 5.28 gallons. The guage will show full until about 25 percent of your tank is empty and then it starts dropping fast. Don't go by distance to empty. That is also inaccurate. The best thing to do is reset your trip meter with every fuel up and refuel when it says 150 miles. The MPG is very accurate though when looking at your gauge.
@@budyser365 mine will say anywhere from 134 to 137 miles on a full tank( 600)
I always run what the manufacturer recommends. They are not in cahoots with the oil companies but they did test it more scientifically then just an mpg test. They look at internal wear and other factors that Joh Q Public can’t fathom.
The owners manual says 87 is perfectly fine. I have been running it for a few years now with no issues.
@@budyser365 I ryde an F3 Limited and it specs as 91. Sounds like you’re good if the manual says 87 is fine. I’m not familiar with the Ryker specs.
The 1330 is definitely different. Nicely done video.
My F3 gets very similar mileage. I wonder if it would change with a windshield. I’ve had an oversized windshield since 39 miles 😉
@@DFWMoose My weight has a lot to do with the mileage. I weigh 295 and that does not help. A friend of mine is 225 and has a windshield. He gets about 2 miles more to the gallon than me. Not a huge difference but every little bit helps. I am glad that you enjoyed the video. I appreciate you watching.
@@budyser365 I’m 6’3 and about 280. I hear you. But like you I didn’t buy it for mileage as my Toyota Venza Hybrid gets a clean 39 😁
I don't know much about the Ryker but the Spyder RT limited will run like crap if I put in 89 octane and if it's not 100% gas it really runs bad.i use 91 octane and 100% gas what the factory say .I tired to sneak the lower octane and every time it knocks after a few miles it dies and it just sucks.so I stick with what the factory say.but thank you for the information
Just go to 2023 Reichert rally, I only have Eco on, eco off and rally mode. You're listing "sport" in there. What's going on here?
I have a 2019 Ryker Rally. The 2019 has normal, Eco, Sport, and Rally Mode. I am wondering if they got rid of Sport Mode on the 2023 because they came out with a Ryker Sport.
Has anyone every tried to add an additional gas tank to your Ryker? 115 miles or So isn’t a long range! Even to mount a 1 gallon tank could make a hug difference! Thanks
Use 87 octane..then once a month put in head/piston cleaner in your tank...or little seafoam..
Very true on the gas... the best I got on my rally was 35.2 on eco but average 32.4 to 33.7 and I'm hard on it.... plus rear tire is balding from burning rubber....😁
Thank you Jason. It is always good to hear what another Rally owner is getting. Sounds like I am in the ballpark with most Rally owners.
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It sounds as if 87 is okay. If the price diff is not too significant I may continue to use 98. My Dodge Journey recommends 98 as well. I noticed that not all gas stations have the same octane numbers.
I have been using 87 for most of my fuel ups and have over 7000 miles with no issues. I sometimes put in 93 to give the Ryker a treat lol.
Have you done your own oil change on it and if so any tips?
No. I didn't want to do the oil change myself. I had the first service done really early at 3000 miles. The dealer charged me $287.
@@budyser365 was that the first oil change for you too?
@@troybriggs3895 Yes, that was my first. I had it done early even though it wasn't due until 6000 miles. Better safe than sorry.
@@budyser365 I agree..Just trying to figure it all out since the manual says break in of about 200 miles then regular scheduled maintenance wasn't sure if there was an oil change at that point or not...don't want to ruin the bike.
Thank you for your speedy response
I’m using 93 right now should I wait to empty to put 89
You can fill up anytime. Nothing to worry about.
My wife has a river and I have a Harley Tri Glide and personally the mileage on the Ryker stinks I get 39 to 40 on the Harley and I se 87 octane I like the Ryker and it does get and go but the clang it makes when you start at a green light is terrible.
I don't believe it Mark ... My last bike before I bought my F3 was a 2006 Naked SV650! It's on my channel if you want to check it out ... Another Great vlog mate! 👍😁🤘 Beanie
That's awesome BeanieBoy. I am going to check it out. I honestly regret selling that bike.
@@budyser365 Me too Mark ... They're Bullet Proof! 👍😁🤘🙏
jeez i use 97 ron in Uk lol..im lucky if im getting 120 miles from a tank
The Ryker can be funny. I know some people getting a little more than me and some people much less. My gas mileage stabilized around 2000 miles. The gas mileage was horrible when I first got it. The average seems to be around 30MPG for most people.
Octane is calculated differently here. 93 in the video is about the same as 97 there.
I am lighter than you (150 lbs) and I constantly get 38 mpg in ECO mode on my 2022 Ryker Rally.
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My weight and the mountains definitely have a lot to do with my MPG. The lighter the rider, the better the gas mileage. That is awesome you are getting such great gas mileage. Ride safe and have fun.
Would be classified as mid grade ?
I consider mid grade 89 Octane. The lowest we can get in Pennsylvania is 87 Octane. Most pumps sell 87, 89, and 93.
With 93 being 4.25 a gallon right now the 87 will be just fine.
I mainly run 87 now after doing lots of tests. I have over 6k miles on my Ryker. No issues. Thank you for watching.
My ryker 600 100km/6.8 lt
That seems very high to me. The average Ryker 600 owner is getting about 58km a gallon or around 36 miles per gallon. Some get less and some get more. A lot of factors like rider weight, driving conditions, accessories, and many other factors will affect this number.
I'm going to use 89
With the high gas prices now, 89 is a good choice. Thank you for watching. Hopefully, you found the video helpful.
If you are getting better gas mileage with higher octane... You are almost certainly pulling timing on lower octane gas.
The computer compensates for the octane in use. .7 extra gas mileage is not worth the price of 93 Octane. The manual says it is fine and I trust BRP engineers. Also, no pinging or performance loss from 87 or 89 octane. Why waste money.
Yup, the computer is compensating for sure (because the better mileage should be the lowest octane without the computer detecting knock, it doesn't have an octane sensor). So you ARE getting knock, but the computer is adjusting before you can hear it, and you ARE getting less power, as retarding the timing, and all other ways of compensating for octane below what the engine can do without pulling back always does. You are getting worse mileage as well..
That said, if they say it in the manual, then you probably won't void your warranty or anything, but if this isn't a commuter vehicle that you are putting tons of miles on, it really doesn't seem worth it to lower responsiveness, power, and potentially increase wear on the engine (depending on how well the computer compensates.) Now, if it's cold where you are, you are more likely to be OK with lower octane, your altitude also will play a part (high altitude effectively lowers compression). In the end, the question is more than .7 mpg, and most people didn't buy a ryker to get the most efficient vehicle,they probably bought it for some mix of fun and value, so you have to decide what you find is important. I'm more of a performance guy, who lives in Texas (heat) at a reasonably low altitude, so I'm definitely sticking to 93, and my dealer even told me that the 900/rally runs noticeably better on 93.
@@randomstuff1830 Most modern fuel injected motorcycles and cars do not require higher octane fuels unless specifically stated in the owners manual. The Ryker has a modern computer that constantly monitors fuel trim and detonation and makes the appropriate adjustments in the fuel air mixture to compensate for engine knock. No knock equals no damage. Octane did matter when only a vacuum advance was used to correct knock which isn't the case here. If the Ryker had a Turbo or a much larger engine I would run 93 Octane. The Ryker in it's current form does not benefit from a higher octane. The small mpg increase is not worth the money and there is no noticeable power gain.
@@budyser365 I'm in agreement with you until you bet to the last 2 sentences, which your second sentence proves false. If the computer in compensating by adjusting fuel and spark to avoid detonation then is 100% absolutely is negatively impacting power. I don't care if the "butt dyno" says that there is no power loss, there 100% is, if you did not gain power by advancing timing, then all engines would run 87 octane, and have massive advance for spark.. In the current form the Ryker ABSOLUTELY benefits from 93 octane, more than just the .7 mpg increase.
I will agree though, that the computer is likely fast enough to respond to the smallest amount of spark knock and probably does not need more than whatever is in the manual to be "safe" for the engine (as you point out, they'd not warranty it that way if it wasn't safe enough for it)
Remember, the claim here is with NO LOSS OF POWER, which 100% MUST be false based on how fuel injection works, and it is proven that the computer is compensating for lack of octane by having 93 get better fuel economy (since the lower number should have better mileage if there was no adjustments being made to avoid detonation). I've modified enough fuel injection systems, to know exactly how spark and fuel affect performance, and have plenty of maps of NA and turbo vehicles in HP Tuners, along with the resultant dyno charts to be VERY aware of the relationship to timing and performance (there is also an optimal for mileage too)..
Also, i agree that .7 mpg doesn't merit the 15 cents per gallon that i pay vs 87, but knowing that my computer doesn't need to pull timing, and knowing that means I'll have more power, probably better throttle response, yeah it's worth it to me, on that big 5 gallon fuel tank, we're talking about less than 1$... If you want me to change my position on the power thing, you will need dyno numbers, to prove something that goes against all the laws of physics and experience tuning that I, and the people that i know who build race vehicles for a living have.
@@randomstuff1830 Thank you for all your input. It is always nice having an intelligent and factual conversation with someone. I really do appreciate your option on the subject. I am always looking to learn more.
I'll never understand why some of you get such bad mileage. I have 6105 miles on my 900 ACE and have NEVER seen less than 37 mpg even when new. I admit I never take it out of Eco mode, don't need to. 98% of my riding is on country roads, some limited Interstate, and I stick to the speed limits or less if I'm not being followed (I won't hold anyone up). I have followed the owners manual and have always used 91 octane as they recommend. I weigh 190, 5' 10". While the internet provides some good information, only those like you who do these youTubes are heard most of the time and divergent views, opinions, and real world experiences of others are not. I worry that some potential buyers may be dissuaded from purchasing based on just a few videos. Not knocking you, but I think folks should take everything with a grain of salt as they say. Thanks for listening. PS I'm 75 years old!
Paul thanks for your input. 37 MPG doesn't sound unreasonable running 91 octane and keeping it in ECO mode all the time.
You also weigh 80 pounds less than me. That would definitely factor into the equation. Also, a windshield would probably give you an extra mile per gallon.
Most people don't run the Ryker in ECO mode all the time. I think you are the exception to the rule. My figures are about the average for most people. I know Ryker owners who only get around 29 or 30 MPG.
Rider weight, windshield, driving conditions, throttle, and many other factors will determine what mpg you get.
I am only giving my honest figures. I am not trying to stop anyone from buying a Ryker. It is actually the opposite. It is the most fun motorcycle that I have ever owned. I wish everyone could experience one.
I just want the average owner or buyer to know what to expect if they are around my weight and drive in my conditions.
Most Ryker owners including myself didn't buy the Ryker for MPG. We bought it for the ultimate wind therapy and some of the most fun you will ever have on a motorcycle.
Good hearing from you Paul. Keep in touch. I always value your opinion.
If I’m gentle I’ve gotten 38 mpg but If I flog it hard that goes down to as low as 26-28 depends how hard you drive it. Unfortunately with the cvt its a matter of not driving too fast, as the revs can get super high
That's the key, gentle on the throttle. Oh I goof around now and then, like to beat hot shots off the line when the lights turn green and watch them floor it to pass me. Another benefit is no more "clunk" in the drive line. I park in the garage and back out to the street. If I ease it out, I never hear a "clunk" the rest of the ride.
bruh your voice so similar to the lock picking lawyer threw me off for a minute
Mountain roads really make your results unreliable. It needs to be done on open, flat highway. Your weight should be stated.
It will take more fuel to carry a 250 pound man through mountainous terrain than it will take to carry a 150 pound man on flat, open highway.
30 mpg sucks.
My height, weight, and riding conditions were stated at the beginning of the video.
Nobody rides their Ryker on a flat, open highway for a full tank of gas. Those conditions are unrealistic. My video is more or less how the average rider will use their Ryker unless it is a daily driver.
Obviously, many conditions will affect MPG like rider weight, hills, throttle, 2-up riding, road conditions, traffic, tire condition, accessories, and so many more. I can go on and on.
These are my results and I believe they are about average. Some Ryker owners are in the 37 MPG range and some are more around 30 MPG.
Did you ever watch a car commercial where the MPG stated is no where near what a normal human would get? They are in perfect conditions. This is a real world test using over a year of data.
I do agree that 30 MPG isn't great. I bought my Ryker to have fun and forget about life for awhile. Most owners bought their Ryker for the same reason.
My Honda XR650L gets about 50 MPG but that is like compairing apples to oranges. Compairing a 1 cylinder 650 to a 900 3 cylinder with an always engaged transmission (the main problem with Ryker MPG.)
Anyway, I appreciate your input but I stand by my results.
Nice report, BUT YOU TALK TOO FAST. It's not a race to see how much you can cram into a video, SLOW DOWN AND SPEAK FLUENTLY WILL MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION BETTER.
Thanks for watching. I hope you found the video helpful. I appreciate the feedback.