Ford 2N vs Farmall M The day after we got about 12 inches of snow with 50 plus mph wind. It was only 0 out, but I was nice and cozy with my "tarp heater".
Does anyone understand the difference? A homemade snow plow on an old N compared to a M with a loader? The M weighs about 2,000 lbs more without the loader. And over 10" bigger tires size. The N weights about 2,300 until you added weight. I had a 48 8N w/ 10.0 28 tires and it would move snow, but you had to pick the right gear and slow the throttle down and make it lug or it'd just blow the traction. Then one day I got a set of tire chains for it. They were shot to pieces, but I got busy and welded links into them and made them fit. WHAT A DIFFERENC!! You must remember a Ford N was a light duty row crop tractor. Factory it handled a Double 16" Dearborn moldboard plow and 12' double row disc, that was it. They were popular, I lived on a dead end dirt road that was about 1/4 mile long and 3 people had one. Every company in the entire world was copying the Ford N series and trying to catch up and make a better tractor. ben/ michigan
The real difference had to do with the attachments. The first thing to make contact with the snow on a snow PUSHER is the vertical backplane. It pushes the pile against snow that is stuck to the ground and it gets bogged down easier. Snow BUCKETS have a horizontal cutting edge, and they help to cut and lift the snow before it encounters the backplane. Because they tend to slice vs. just push, they get bogged down less than a plow or pusher. I’ll bet the first tractor would not have spun out if it would have had a bucket. At least that’s been my experience with our tractor. My go-to snow removal implement for the deep stuff is the snow bucket.
i always told my father that a Farmall M would do everything his John Deere A would do. Years after I left the farm my mother sold the 9N and bought a better snowplowing tractor, but the John Deere is still there. If you keep them in a barn and take care of them, those old tractors will last forever.
Nice old tractors. The Farmall M is 2000 lbs heavier, tall tires with wider stance and longer wheel base. More HP, torque , and lower gearing. The 2n did well though. Like to see how my Ford 3000 would do vs the M. Would be a more fair fight. Ive plowed some big snow with my 3000. Farmalls and Fords in my opinion are the best old tractors to own! Although I dont own an M I own several farmalls and fords. Your video popped up for me, just noticed its 4 years old.
It's safe to say the m won but it goes to show how much weight has to do with a tractors performance. I have a massey ferguson 135 my neighbor got his f350 buried in the mud I had to pull him sideways with the 135 itself couldn't get traction. I put my 6ft grader box on it 500lbs or more plus put the chain over the box on my on my draw bar lifted the draw bar up for more pull on the back side then in 1st gear low pulled his truck sideways parting 5in deep of soil like I had a 2bottom plow. Tractors are so powerful even smaller hp just need weight and traction. But I rode a hell of a wheelie though😂🤣
@@flhusa1 people underestimate tractors especially 30hp to 45hp. If it has weight in front and weights on the back wheels or tires loaded or I've seen both for the rear you can push a lot of snow, plus chains also. I've done some tremendous feats with my massey ferguson 135. But I have a 95 silverado to plow with but if I had to use my tractor for snow plowing I'd push more snow than my truck.
I agree its not a fair comparison between the 2 tractors with the weight difference . Its nice that they both have a lot of power left. The 2N is getting the tire chains modified and adding about 20 gallons of windshield washer fluid to each tire. It will be interesting to see how it performs this winter.
The tire chains shifted between the lugs on both tractors and dose not do any good. After this video I did some modifying to the chains so they stay on top of the lugs. That made a noticeable difference, but the Ford still struggles with the hard wind packed drifts.
Not pushing the same snow back again, I have the luxury to be able to pile the snow in 2 places, so I find it faster to turn the tractor around after dumping the bucket and push going both directions rather than back all the way and only push in one direction.
I think that little Ford did a great job. More than I expected.
But the farmall wins for the deep snow.
That little ford need a set of snowchains
Cool! I kind of jumped at about 30 seconds in. Your transition from the ford made it look to me like the motor exploded! Lol!
Does anyone understand the difference? A homemade snow plow on an old N compared to a M with a loader? The M weighs about 2,000 lbs more without the loader. And over 10" bigger tires size. The N weights about 2,300 until you added weight. I had a 48 8N w/ 10.0 28 tires and it would move snow, but you had to pick the right gear and slow the throttle down and make it lug or it'd just blow the traction. Then one day I got a set of tire chains for it. They were shot to pieces, but I got busy and welded links into them and made them fit. WHAT A DIFFERENC!! You must remember a Ford N was a light duty row crop tractor. Factory it handled a Double 16" Dearborn moldboard plow and 12' double row disc, that was it. They were popular, I lived on a dead end dirt road that was about 1/4 mile long and 3 people had one. Every company in the entire world was copying the Ford N series and trying to catch up and make a better tractor. ben/ michigan
I'm late to the party, but enjoyed the video just the same! Thanks for posting!
Now that’s a real bucket of snow, thanks for posting!
Thanks.
The real difference had to do with the attachments. The first thing to make contact with the snow on a snow PUSHER is the vertical backplane. It pushes the pile against snow that is stuck to the ground and it gets bogged down easier. Snow BUCKETS have a horizontal cutting edge, and they help to cut and lift the snow before it encounters the backplane. Because they tend to slice vs. just push, they get bogged down less than a plow or pusher. I’ll bet the first tractor would not have spun out if it would have had a bucket. At least that’s been my experience with our tractor. My go-to snow removal implement for the deep stuff is the snow bucket.
Really cool video! Thanks for sharing!
Nice comparison! Thanks for sharing.
i always told my father that a Farmall M would do everything his John Deere A would do. Years after I left the farm my mother sold the 9N and bought a better snowplowing tractor, but the John Deere is still there. If you keep them in a barn and take care of them, those old tractors will last forever.
I agree, those old tractors were built to last.
Wow impressed with that Farmall
Hmm, M outweighs the 8n, AND has chains. In my experience, an 8n with fluid in the tires and chains will go a lot places.
Nice old tractors. The Farmall M is 2000 lbs heavier, tall tires with wider stance and longer wheel base. More HP, torque , and lower gearing. The 2n did well though. Like to see how my Ford 3000 would do vs the M. Would be a more fair fight. Ive plowed some big snow with my 3000. Farmalls and Fords in my opinion are the best old tractors to own! Although I dont own an M I own several farmalls and fords. Your video popped up for me, just noticed its 4 years old.
Impressive!
That Farmall M will out work one of those little ford N's any day of the week
Nice video, the M is a heavier tractor and would have good traction.
Farmall wasn’t wearing the box plow..
Weight definitely makes the difference.
Clydesdale vs Shetland.
It's safe to say the m won but it goes to show how much weight has to do with a tractors performance. I have a massey ferguson 135 my neighbor got his f350 buried in the mud I had to pull him sideways with the 135 itself couldn't get traction. I put my 6ft grader box on it 500lbs or more plus put the chain over the box on my on my draw bar lifted the draw bar up for more pull on the back side then in 1st gear low pulled his truck sideways parting 5in deep of soil like I had a 2bottom plow. Tractors are so powerful even smaller hp just need weight and traction. But I rode a hell of a wheelie though😂🤣
when used properly a 4 wheel drive truck is no match for a old farm tractor.
@@flhusa1 people underestimate tractors especially 30hp to 45hp. If it has weight in front and weights on the back wheels or tires loaded or I've seen both for the rear you can push a lot of snow, plus chains also. I've done some tremendous feats with my massey ferguson 135. But I have a 95 silverado to plow with but if I had to use my tractor for snow plowing I'd push more snow than my truck.
@@bryanblood7063 tractors are not as warm and comfortable as trucks !
I’d have the snow box on the m.
Ford versus farmall both are geared different and weight different and there's different in hp ? .... I'm plowing with a Ford 8n 1945 and works great
ford was pushing more snow with no chains.
tractordata.com says a Ford 2N weighs only 3070 lbs vs. 4858 lbs for the M. I did notice that neither engine seemed to bog down much.
I agree its not a fair comparison between the 2 tractors with the weight difference . Its nice that they both have a lot of power left. The 2N is getting the tire chains modified and adding about 20 gallons of windshield washer fluid to each tire. It will be interesting to see how it performs this winter.
Try to find some old grader chains for those rear tires.
I have a narrow front farmall H with a hydraulic lift blade and that old girl will move some snow a little weight a good tires goes a long ways
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Ever think of chains on rear end
The tire chains shifted between the lugs on both tractors and dose not do any good. After this video I did some modifying to the chains so they stay on top of the lugs. That made a noticeable difference, but the Ford still struggles with the hard wind packed drifts.
I think it maybe needed chains and would have been fine
No you need rear tire chains!
If the 2n gets stuck the farmall will pust it out of the
No make sense push snow one way then back again ?
Not pushing the same snow back again, I have the luxury to be able to pile the snow in 2 places, so I find it faster to turn the tractor around after dumping the bucket and push going both directions rather than back all the way and only push in one direction.
Box blades ain't worth a quarter.