What To Look For When Buying An 8N Ford
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- Crazy D takes a look at an 8N Ford that he had just purchased and decides to take us through what you should look for when buying an 8N Ford. Let's take a look at what he has for us.
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"Worked hard and put away wet" is a reference to farm horses. That is to say, pulling in the summer heat, sweated up horse not wiped down after the work is done.
It should be "Ridden hard and put away wet."
My dad said people would work their horse or mule to a lather or sweat and then put them away wet.
It's a reference to banging chicks! Geez!
@@AindriasHirt not if they are work horses. I.e. plowing, etc. Which makes sense in reference to tractors.
I had to laugh when you mentioned leaking seals. If I bought ANYTHING that was 70 years old, even if it had been well maintained, I'd expect a few leaks. Hell, I'm only 51 years old and have a few leaks myself now and then lol!
I just turned 60, it get worse. Or you might even have a water presure problem.
Oh yeah screw brakes who gonna break 5or 10 mph in gear!!😊
Those rear axle seals were a notorious for those little two in eighty in a 90 and Ford tractors
I’m 43 and been known to leak fluids and gasses.
"Worked hard and put away wet" is an old horseman's saying. It means to work a horse into a hard sweat and put it in the barn for the night still wet (without letting it cool down or spraying the horse down with water to bathe it). Thank you for a great video!
Your video actually helped me with my experience in getting my 8N tractor. I have a few videos with this antique hard worker around the house. Thank You for your hard work of sharing your knowledge.
When starting a Ford 8N you set the throttle about a quarter to third, turn the key on, make sure it is in neutral, press the starter button, and rapidly pull the choke out then back in. One or two times of that cycle with the choke, they will usually start. The right rear tire. Newer looking but it was mounted either backward or it was meant to go on the left side. When pulling, the cleats on the tire have to push the dirt or mud toward the outside edges of the tire. As mounted they pull the dirt or mud toward the center of the tire allowing it to spin more
Yep, noticed also the tire mounted backwards.
Rust in the gas tank is another common problem. And wore brake shoes, leaking rear axle seals.
I believe I would still have a 8n Ford over a sub compact tractor. They are excellent tractors. I'd buy multiple 8Ns over these new tractors. I'd have plenty of spare parts.
I'll take the old Ford N8 any day over anything new it's nice to have the new hydraulic system I understand all that but when everything breaks down in your new tractor it's going to be costly the N8 is easy to fix and almost anyone can use it they will be around to the end of time I promise you this I've seen these things do some amazing stuff yes these new tractors are stronger can haul more and can definitely lift more but the test of time will tell that
@@anthonyparker8519 My old man for several years back in the day farmed a quarter section of land with an N8 before he purchased a Farmall.
RODE HARD,AND PUT AWAY WET!
Is a reference to HORSES !
They sweat when worked hard,and if not attended to can cause ill for the horse.
I use mine to haul firewood
Great video, I know it will help a lot of folks. Also on 8n’s and Jubilee’s the rear axle hubs are prone to wear which in turn causes leakage at the hub seals. There will be gear oil present on the outside of the rear rim if that’s the case. I’ve found the front mount distributors are easiest to work on if taken off. Much easier to remove two bolts than sheet metal, but that’s my $0.02...Maybe we could see a video like this on a Farmall H and/or M...I’ve never owned or worked on one but I plan to have one or both in my collection, they’ve always been some of my favorites. Keep up the great content!
Looks like someone put the right tyre on backwards
thanks for taking the time to go over this, it is good info
"rode hard and put away wet". It's about riding a horse
“Worked Hard, put away wet”
Has to do with “wiping down a horse” after working it hard.
Don’t expect - for long - to abuse a horse - or a 70 plus year or younger piece of machinery, to keep too excited to see you the next day, or months later, if you don’t give it any “love”
Yes please, a video on replacing the rear seal would be great!
My Grandpa had one. He had a big Maddy and an International I think too. When anything needed done on the farm the little Ford was his go to. I think the Massy could move the world if you could get it hooked up but he just used t 8N for everything. Never seen him work on it.
It was the first machine that I drove, my Dad taught me on the farm in Iowa where it was used for everything. They even put chains on it for in the mud in the feed lot for cattle and some pigs.
Great video!!!!! I like the 52 8N because the distributor is on the side. I also run them and see how much blow by is coming out of the oil fill spout. I used to have a 52 and it was a great tractor except for the dead lift. I was mowing with it before and the deck turning actually pushed me through the neighbors fence 🤣😅😂
An overturning clutch can fix that for you.
Good video, buying my second N tractor this weekend and tires are 30% ... I'm throwing on a set of homemade feild chains and running it.
Worked hard and put away wet is a reference to when you work a horse hard and put it up in the barn still sweaty and wet with out warming down.
We’ll done sir, I consider your video to be a resource. Looking forward to checking out the rest of your tractor videos. Would be interested in hearing your thoughts on purchasing and fixing a classic with and without attachments vs. purchasing one of the newer model compacts.
I loved your video as I recently became the proud owner of a 1952 Worthington (Mower Co.) G-4, golf course and landscaping tractor. This mower uses the Ford 8N motor and power train and F1 pickup parts. I hope to restore it to operation.
Road hard and put away wet. I believe it was referring to hourses that were worked hard and then put away in the barn without taking care of it. I see Doctorfloc said it better than I :-)
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Great Video and Tips on purchasing an 8N I am in Michigan and just started looking for one.
I took notes.Thanks
Great video. Please do a video showing your shop and workspace. I would love to see that.
Thanks old top. Young’n here looking to buy and this will be helpful.
I have 1939 9n. Most of the electric and engine parts can found at Napa.
I had no problem replacing my '48 8Ns distributor without removing sheet metal or the radiator. That said, you overlooked what, in my opinion, is a key thing to look at when buying one of these, the rear wheels. The wheels are prone to rotting from the inside out. If you see rust around the bead, be suspicious. Replacement wheels aren't hard to find, or even that expensive, but swapping tires can be a bear of a job. If the tires still have life in them, breaking their beads from an old rim can be an awful job.
Nice tractor! And good advice!!!
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OMG - it was so close to starting...you're leaving us with tractor blue balls here. Great stuff - thanks for sharing.
LOL tractor blue balls I've never heard that before I like it that's funny
He could have still tested the lift. Engage the pto , move the lift handle to the up position and engage the starter. The lift will raise.
@@jeremyc3431 yeah I wanted to see crazy D stand on it. It probably do a wheelie if it dont leak down love the video Crazy D
I have an 8N because it was my grandpa's and I still use it
Picked up an 8N with a starred 9N serial number for $1000. Has been sitting for 7 years. Replacing the tank, fuel bowl, fuel cap and front tires. I think I got a good deal.
Thanks been looking for an 8N. 928 back there!
If you had horses, you would understand "rode hard and put away wet" Good video. I like the information. Ford 8n is great.
I have s 1939 9N and it works just fine. It cleared off our property.
Worked hard and put away wet is a reference to plow mules that would be covered in sweat. Can also apply to horses.
Before trying to start the tractor be sure to check to see if the gas is turned on. I alway disengage the clutch when starting and it is also best to be seated as you could get run over if it should start in gear.
The rear end check from Side to Side also.
Good points to consider.
Value, in the 1970s my landlord was paying between 250 to 650 for them he kept them for a few years then sold them and went and bought differnt ones. Ive seen them on cl for as much at 5k with some implements and or rebuilt.
So the price is honestly all over the place.
A neighbor was moving to a farm I told him to buy one to mow and clear his long driveway, he did he found one for 500 but he had to replace the back and frt tires and it had leaks comming out of every seal and gasket over the whole tractor.
To bring that one up to par im thinking he spent way too much for it as it needed its origanl cost in replacement parts. 1400 bucks beside the tires.
good video, i want to see more ford tractors vdeos
I bought a Ford 8N and drove it home 6 miles .. when I went to look at it. It had a new battery and it had tire chains and the bar on the 3 point arms and that was new and a new alternator .. but I was able to start it up and drive it before I bought it.. he even put 5 gallon of gas in it .. and I paid $800 for it the only work I have to do is breaks on it
Great video...
I bought 9N with 12 volt conversion which wasn't charging the battery as indicated on the ammeter. An experienced tractor mechanic gave me the fix which I could not find on You Tube. He had a 1964 Chevy alternator wire connector wire he plugged in to the alternator and alligator clipped it to the battery wire. The ammeter shot up indicating a charging condition. I purchased the connector at Autozone and wired it in with an on/off switch I installed on the dash which needs to be switched on before starting (this energizes - adapts the alternator to the proper voltage output to the battery) then the ammeter should show charging. You then switch it to the off position. The ammeter should continue to indicate charging during operation.
Worked hard and put away wet is an old horse saying. Horses will sweat and lather up when they get hot from hard labor. Before a horse in this condition is stabled or turned onto pasture they should be cooler off by walking, given a bath and a rub down. This to prevent issues caused from a build up of fluid in the muscles and lungs. That is why you also want to keep a hot horse from drinking it's fill when hot. If you do they can get colic or other intestinal discomfort issues.
You do not have to remove the hood or the radiator to get at the distributor on a front mount. It’s simple as pulling the two bolts out and removing the whole distributor and taking it to the work bench. The distributor can only fit back one way so nothing to worry about with timing and whatnot.
You can do it without removing the hood or the radiator it's just easier to remove the hood it just gives you a lot more room to work
Love my 8n, 70 years of being worked har and it still goes and does what I need. Btw, is this the Car Wizards shop?? Looks like some of Hoovie’s cars in the background.
Yes, same garage. Hoovie had him on his show once.👍🏾
On some of them Ford's you have to open throttle a quarter of the way then while you're cranky pull the choke out and it should start because the choke will not stay out because they're made that way
Nice information bro
Where’s me gold! ☘️ The top hat 😂Awesome video!
When it comes to tractor videos on CZcams it doesn't get much better than crazy D
Yep, nauteral feels real good !
All the 80 years old Fords have been worked hard. They are awesome.
Not sure if anyone mention this but look at the foot peddles. You can tell how much use a tractor has had by the wear on these peddles. The more dimples showing means less use.
Rode hard and put away wet is a horse reference.
Seriously if I can buy one for a few 100 bucks that needs work, I'd buy it.
These were built to be worked on at the farm by the farmer or his wife or one of the kids. Its about as simple as you can get. Ill bet 90% of the problems can be fixed with a Bobby pin. Or bubble gum.
Serious 70 years old. Come on, its not going to be new. Why not buy an old one and rebuild it? Thats 1/2 the fun.
And these were built to store outside year round. Its just a little tougher in dead winter to start one, but if you have to plow the driveway it beats the shit out of trying to use a garden tractor or lawn tractor.
GRATE VIDEO
Just ask "The Ringmaster"!
Every 8n tractor I’ve ever had had a tickle the choke to get It started
"Rode/worked hard and put up wet" refers to using horses. Also , if there is play/wear in throttle shaft-should move in rotary motion-not up and down. Also the 3 pt rocker shaft- no vertical /up and down movement. And last,but not least, atempt to move the rear wheels,like you did the front ones.
Those back tires allow traction in forward and reverse equally.
I just bought a 1950 for $800, came with a 4 foot brush hog. New rear tires, converted to 12 volt, rolls over fine, good spark, all fluids look good. Sat for 5 years after his dad died. He said that it ran when parked. I'm thinking fuel problem. Going to work on it on my next day off.
How did the tractor turn out? sounds like a steal!
This is just standard car stuff ( dry rotted tires, milky stuff in the radiator) i was really hoping for N series spastic stuff that would actually help me a bit more.
If the rears are more than an inch or two different in actual measured outside diameter you can kiss your differential gears goodbye.ESPECIALLY if you ever drive the tractor on a hard surface.
I do like your page a lot. I have subscribed to your channel.
as for the old saying,""rode hard and put up or away wet " ,refereed to a sweaty horse not being combed and cared for ..
I have been out on horses & mules as a young boy.We did ride forever,playing tag among other games.
I am going tomorrow to buy a 1949 2 N. Thanks for the info. God Bless .
I believe the tire on right rear is mounted going wrong direction
Very good video
Might add does it have a Sherman , just bought a cherry 8n and to my surprise when I picked it up it had a cable operated Sherman which of course the cables froze up that's my next project hoping I don't have to split the tractor to replace it it good video by the way!!
The old saying goes "Rode Hard and Put Up Wet" referring to their Horse worked it's ass off.
Old timers used horses and Mules, that is where the saying came from. worked hard put away wet/ sweaty.
..the ignition parts can be gotten easily at Napa, at least on the '50-'52's..rather deal with those knowledgeable guys than a chain place like Tractor Supply, etc...if you have a New Holland dealer around, they usually stock the parts, also, believe it or not...
Leaking rear hub/ axle seals are common also.
Not so much on the 8ns as it was the 9's and 2's
You can bye a set of rear tires on Amazon for way cheaper then whst there estimating.
Work hard and put away wet is from the day of the horse or mule doing the work. They would be wet from sweat, and putting them back in the barn before letting them cool off, and drying them off was abuse. Great way to for them to get sick.
Thank you for that I've always thought that it had something to do with working horses but I wasn't for sure
Beat me to it.
I was saying in my last comment these tractors are Classics yes they're old but they're not stylish like today's tractors but I think they are work tractors and if you just pull them around the house or something I think they're good I understand everything you say some people want to put money in them some of them don't I mean I got one it's rough but it runs and does what I like it to do I'm not going out and spend high dollar Machinery especially these days when I got this old one yeah I didn't do what today's does but it does what I like it to do you take care
Looks like to me, the right rear tire is backwards?maybe iam wrong 😕. Isn't there a adjustment to tighten up the steering to tighten it up? Please respond to my questions.
Worked hard and put away wet it’sa reference to the horse days. From what I’ve read proper horsemanship says you’re supposed to cool off a tired sweaty horse before putting it up in its stall. Interesting how this saying has lingered.
When I look under the hood I really hope to see a bad battery and maybe some shoddy electrical work!!!
Easy fixes are a GOOD thing to find!
I worked on this tractor.
“Worked hard and put away wet” is an old horse farmer’s term for a draft horse team or buggy horse, worked hard and then just put in the barn with out drying off or any other care......ps. ( Mennonite horse farmer since 1992 ).
If you ever have to replace a radiator on one of these old tractors just go to your local junkyard and get a 20 or $30 radiator from a small car like a Honda Civic. They wanted $400 for my Kubota radiator and I got a Honda Civic radiator for $30!
How do u take out that stem on the rear end that pulls on a for 9n
Nice
Like with the horse comment...
A problem you run into is is you're looking for one for work. The perspective of many is from the collector point of view, or as if you're inspecting a current used piece, versus a WW2 era relic that is still in use, useable, and effective.
Understand:
Even the very senior oldsters in your community probably never farmed or used one of these.
Their parents probably had one that they drove when they were a kid.
Good advice and facts on maintenance or operation may be sketchy or only partially true.
Lastly, buy the tractor, not the story.
The new tractors are much nicer and more capable in a lot of ways. But for plowing,disking, etc, seems the 8n would be the better choice.
And about $30000 less
"Rode hard and put away wet" is a reference to horses. If you ride them hard and put them away wet, it is bad for the horse. They can get sick or sores. It is so bad that if someone does it they are careless and don't care about their mounts.
We have a tractor. 🌠9N 222xxx🌠. 8N wheels , front distributor , 4 spd , both brakes right side. Looks to they may have moved starter button to dash from next to shifter. Need help to identify. Also need lead on oval 2 bolt steering box. Thanks in advance.
There isn't ever "to gone" when it comes to an N-series Ford tractor everything about them can be repaired fairly easily... Nice video though!
My dad is getting his restored 8n Ford repainted the engine has been restored just needs a 8n Ford i had a 8n Ford at one time
To change the points on my 8n I don't remove the hood. I remove the coil, then distributor cap, then remove distributor. Then you can work on the points on your work bench.
Love the hat
Hey Crazy D! So now trying to be on "Chorus Line"?
Worked hard put up wet went back to horses days. You could make one die if put up wet with sweat!
They are talking about horses, mules etc. putting them away wet (sweaty), because they lather up, instead of taking care of them...
I just bought one
Worked Hard and put away Wet refers to Horses. It means that they weren't taken very good care of.
I started at the front and worked back on my 1940 9n. I'm scared about the pump as it has zero lift on the arms. I assume i need to rebuild or replace the pump assembly??
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I had new back tires put on my 52 8n last summer it cost about 700 for both tires and they put them on for no charge.
That's a good deal
It's rode hard and put away wet. It's in reference to horse riding. Usually working horses. Horses need to be cooled down and brushed out to help them regulate their body temp after hard use. No different than people after exercising.