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  • čas přidán 6. 10. 2023

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  • @LittleKitty22
    @LittleKitty22 Před 9 měsíci +18

    Look where all this talk of "forgiveness" has gotten us: close to 100% of people on antidepressants, miserable and unhappy...
    I do not forgive nor do I forget.

    • @Lonerangel7177
      @Lonerangel7177 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Period!! 💯 no forgiveness for my enemies. I want judgment

  • @witnessofchrist2524
    @witnessofchrist2524 Před 9 měsíci +23

    It's not mandatory it's optional. You either walk away or be accepting of being mistreated. That's it. Doesn't require a debate. 🤷‍♀️✌🏾

  • @rubio9478
    @rubio9478 Před 9 měsíci +10

    I hate and despise the idea of "forgiveness" because it relieves the abuser of their karmic cycle that they have caused for themselves. They shouldn't be forgiven for their wrongdoings. They are STILL willing to commit wrongdoings regardless of whether they know right from wrong. And they KNOW they're doing someone dirty anyways. So no, we should under no circumstances forgive any toxic person for committing their transgressions.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci +4

      You're right .That's the hidden secret to forgiveness what you revealed: the corrupt powers that be know this secret like you and I. It relieves the trangressor of thier karmic cycle of evil doing or maybe more from coming back to them.
      A lot of Christians and followers of the false doctrine have been beaten in thier minds the lie that forgiveness is for you and not for them, but they choose be blind by of their false doctrine forgiveness .
      That's why I have been sounding the alarm and exposing the false doctrine of forgiveness, which is not biblical forgiveness.

    • @rubio9478
      @rubio9478 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @TylerJTI Agreed Tyler. Thank you for bringing light to this issue. We were fortunate enough to see through the b.s. they've tried to feed us. Keep up the great work. I have enjoyed watching your videos & you've been extremely helpful in giving guidance in this harsh world. God bless you, sir. 🙏

  • @purposedpatience6597
    @purposedpatience6597 Před 9 měsíci +16

    You just confirmed why certain folks aren’t invited to my home for thanksgiving. I will not be phony or act as if accountability isn’t needed for all parties. I’ve confronted them all but they keep gaslighting me abt it so I’m keeping my distance in peace🙏🏽

  • @ameerahrashada4515
    @ameerahrashada4515 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Well said I use to have the mindset of forgiveness not since I've learned thats not the way to be never let people walk all over you Thank You for opening the eyes of people who want to learn in this world

  • @michelyntoler2175
    @michelyntoler2175 Před 9 měsíci +17

    No forgiveness until FULL RESPONSIBILITY is taken, until we can get through the issues THOROUGHLY! And others keep wondering why past trauma keeps triggering them, it's because they need to ADDRESS AND HEAL that part of themselves! Can't keep running until you face it head on... love this message Tyler 🙏

    • @MrBillybathgate5
      @MrBillybathgate5 Před 9 měsíci +1

      big facts

    • @purposedpatience6597
      @purposedpatience6597 Před 9 měsíci

      Facts🔥 It’s definitely a order in reconciling

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci +9

      Kenyagirly,You are not right and out of line for saying that. If the person has done a transgression: they need to take responsibility for it. Don't cast stones at a person calling out the someone who need to to take responsibility for their wrongdoing: then trying to guilt trip them that you probably did something to them as well. That's gaslighting tactic what you are doing What might be done wrong in one's eyes might not be in another eyes? Think about that one🤔!
      :If the two or more parties did do something wrong to each other they both take accountability or responsibility: that's a way different from the statement you said.

    • @Hannah-eq5ff
      @Hannah-eq5ff Před 9 měsíci +9

      ​@kenyagirlysometimes it's not both parties it's the one individual who has transgressed. They need to repent and make things right not the other person who didn't do anything.

    • @Hannah-eq5ff
      @Hannah-eq5ff Před 9 měsíci +7

      @BeautyQueen2023X that is not the situation he is talking about. I'm sure you've been in a situation where someone did something to you and you didn't do anything. It's not always both parties.

  • @SBBGenX
    @SBBGenX Před 9 měsíci +4

    Forgiveness is above my pay grade. Forgiveness and Karma is issued by a higher power. I just stay in my lane.

  • @sharons5221
    @sharons5221 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for this. Nothing but the truth

  • @djkingmagneto1792
    @djkingmagneto1792 Před 9 měsíci +6

    You 1 Million Percent Right.. You Made My Weekend Whooping The Pure Truth Out On Them. Very Poetically Intricate.. I'm With You 1 Million Percent Too..
    Cause The Biggest Lie The Devil Ever Tells Is That He Is Not The Devil.. We Will Not Let Them Deceive Us.
    And Thank You My Great Highly Intelligent Brother ! , Your A True King 👑 And Amen To All Of That 🕊️⚖️🌞

  • @Hannah-eq5ff
    @Hannah-eq5ff Před 9 měsíci +8

    Just like we go to God to repent and seek forgiveness from God the transgressor has to repent to seek forgiveness from that individual. If we didn't repent God would not forgive us. They think they are special that they don't need to repent and they expect forgiveness from you.

    • @TLowCTI
      @TLowCTI Před 9 měsíci +4

      Preach it. You are so right. This is God's program all throughout the Bible.

  • @aldinaatic9360
    @aldinaatic9360 Před 8 měsíci

    Lord is speaking trough you Tyler 🙌🙌🙌

  • @d.d353
    @d.d353 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I love your videos , thank you thank you thank you

  • @averycolnite3561
    @averycolnite3561 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Forgiveness goes along with contriteness and remorse.
    Without these two things, how can there be forgiveness?

  • @tearialfriersonmoore7432
    @tearialfriersonmoore7432 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Good afternoon Tyler and everyone

  • @bernetajohnson3296
    @bernetajohnson3296 Před 9 měsíci +7

    You don't have to forgive. The scripture tells us if thy right eye offends thee pluck it out! Forgiveness is a choice not an obligation.

  • @beuneeklyfe7644
    @beuneeklyfe7644 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Good afternoon and God Bless Yes, as christians if they repent we are called to forgive. That does not mean we have to go back to that person or situation.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci +5

      Exactly that's right only if they repent

  • @hardeepmann3464
    @hardeepmann3464 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Thank you for your videos Tyler 🙏🙏

  • @lorraine4755
    @lorraine4755 Před 9 měsíci

    Tyler 100% right.

  • @FNM55_
    @FNM55_ Před 9 měsíci +2

    💯Have a blessed day! It’s Gods Holy Day🙌

  • @yolandabartee7363
    @yolandabartee7363 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Good afternoon "Tyler " a pleasure to see you 😊

  • @Lover-of_TRuth
    @Lover-of_TRuth Před 9 měsíci +2

    💣💣💣💣💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
    Get ‘em Tyler!!

  • @victorianjohn
    @victorianjohn Před 9 měsíci +1

    👼🏿AS LONG AS U SAY Nothing
    IT’S ALL Good 💯💯💯
    ✊🏿Shalom King🎗🎖🤴🏿👑

  • @KcLove-ut8zn
    @KcLove-ut8zn Před 9 měsíci

    I agree Tyler

  • @IQUOTEMEDPLAN
    @IQUOTEMEDPLAN Před 9 měsíci

    thank you for sharing

  • @MrBillybathgate5
    @MrBillybathgate5 Před 9 měsíci +8

    If you never hear from me or see me again that means I forgave yo a&&

  • @RAJNOVA784
    @RAJNOVA784 Před 2 měsíci

    Forgiveness is an act of obedience to God. We are imperfect and no one is without sin. It is easy to pass up a common narcissists but it becomes difficult when it comes to yourself and someone close to you. In Mark 11:23, it speaks of mountains being removed but in order for it to take place forgiveness of the person who wronged you must be forgiven or God doesn't forgive you, therefore the mountain in your life won't be removed. Human interactions bring love, fear, pain, and it matters what happens to us. It matters how the individual is treated especially with family. Families are imperfect and can bring hurt to each other and it is human nature to feel the pain and not want to forgive them. Set boundaries towards those who wronged you but forgive them in order for God's protection and provision to set in. Forgiveness is an act of obedience by which the person has to choose to obey God in order to forgive others.

  • @TheWordOfTheStreet
    @TheWordOfTheStreet Před 9 měsíci +2

    great content tyler. you sound like you have the same family as me, lol. i had to cut them off too.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci +3

      Yup, you're discerment is right even though I know you not. There are two that I cutt off, but one I don't give a d**** about until they repent no forgiveness.

    • @TheWordOfTheStreet
      @TheWordOfTheStreet Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@TylerJTI I've been looking to your "doctrine of forgiveness" biblical information. I want to thank you for everything you've shared. You've caused me to look further into it. I had a family member try to use exodus 20:12 against me. to try to manipulate me into trying to ignore what they did. it's crazy! deuteronomy 32:28. thanks again; you're changing lives. keep doing what you are doing!?

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci

      You must have known for a while something is wrong with the doctrine of forgiveness?🤔. I thank you for looking more into the doctrine of forgiveness biblical wise because it's layers of tricks under that false and fraudulent doctrine. Exodus 20:12 deals with the ten commandments about honoring mother and father: It must have been a parent of yours who used that against you🤔? I also have a whole archives on exposing the doctrine of forgiveness that you can also look at. You are welcome.

    • @TheWordOfTheStreet
      @TheWordOfTheStreet Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@TylerJTI when i was sent that (verse); i dismissed it because i know logically that i shouldnt ONLY "honor" someone because of a "title," _it depends on how they carry themselves_ [&or towards me.] but i didnt think to look further (like you have) into seeking ALL the information where it is creating a passage way for the unjust to utilize scripture to deceive the innocent into being more accepting to abuse. *thanks again* for pointing me in the right direction. & yes, its my mother..

  • @star0138
    @star0138 Před 9 měsíci

    Preach ❤

  • @MeCynthiaAnn
    @MeCynthiaAnn Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thank you thank you so much Tyler this video is so true.
    Reap time and Harvest AND Harvest time is coming.
    Keep your eyes on the Lord people because the harvest time is coming.
    I pray that the demonic spirit of narcissism in our loved ones will be crushed under our seats and that the Veil will be stripped from the rise. But they will humble themselves and fall to their knees, and ask the Lord for forgiveness.
    The LORD WILL DO a shaking, shaking here very soon.
    Know that you are loved, and stand strong, because the Lord has not slumber and he sees you.
    God bless from JANESVILLE, WI
    Hey, so I was wondering, where would I go to find your numeric videos?

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Go to this youtube channel and then you can go to channels. You should see my CZcams channel named T-LowCTI.

    • @MeCynthiaAnn
      @MeCynthiaAnn Před 9 měsíci

      @@TylerJTI AWESOME…THANK YOU BUNCHES

    • @MeCynthiaAnn
      @MeCynthiaAnn Před 9 měsíci

      @@TylerJTII FOUND IT AND SUBSCRIBED..SMILES..THANKS

  • @jaymitaylor9937
    @jaymitaylor9937 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Don’t get me wrong I love god and I love my Bible but the whole “forgive others or else god won’t forgive you thing” using this method of thinking and guilt tripping has brought me many loads of stress and frustration . My dad is also a pastor and I hate when he says that because to me it’s like telling someone no matter how someone treats you that you should allow their behavior and that you are not allowed to react. With this method the person doing wrong by you isn’t held accountable for their actions and they are let off free without having to take any accountability for their actions. This means you are unhappy and suffering both ways , basically your getting treated poorly and on top of that you are still having to hold on to the pressure of NOT reacting. While the abuser is walking around with no care in the world and zero punishment .

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci +3

      You are right and that's the whole game in the doctrine of forgiveness from everything what you spoke: it's not God's program of biblical forgiveness . A lot of folks who follow the doctrine of forgiveness love to do those things of what you just spoke.

  • @teb5695
    @teb5695 Před 9 měsíci +2

    🤔 wow..thanks for pointing out Luke 17 3

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci +1

      No problem! Any time

  • @texasgoddess323
    @texasgoddess323 Před 12 dny

    Tyler, thank you for this! I truly bothers me when victims are gaslit with “forgiveness”. Would you mind summarizing why you disagree with the Bible verses promoting forgiveness?

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 12 dny

      You are welcome I wonder what bible verses do you speak of🤔? Please put those bible verses below, I can point to you my disagreement of what we have been told by this doctrine of forgiveness in the religion of Christianity. Or you can visit my archives that say the forgiveness deception: I have my disagreements on there
      I will say that I am for biblical forgiveness, but I am extremely against the doctrine of forgiveness in the religion of Christianity because it's not biblical forgiveness. This doctrine has lied and deceived the masses.

    • @texasgoddess323
      @texasgoddess323 Před 12 dny

      @@TylerJTI What is your definition of “Biblical forgiveness”? I think that’s where I’m not clear. I didn’t mention a particular verse bc they all say to forgive. I don’t view the Bible as literal. I look for the principals it teaches. So I think that not harboring bitterness, anger, and resentment, is a good thing. But gaslighting someone who has been harmed by bullying them to “let the person and themselves off the hook” is not beneficial.
      I disagree that the religious and spiritual teachers push forgiveness, as if everyone must do this. I have a different thought.
      I believe you can NOT forgive AND NOT harbor anger and hatred, at the same time. You just don’t have anything for the person, don’t care to be around them, don’t want to ever see them, but if you work at Walmart, and they come through your line, you say, hello as you ring them up and thank you for shopping at Walmart.

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 10 dny

      Biblical forgiveness is when the person who did an individual wrong takes accountability for thier wrong doing.
      This means the individual takes full responsibility by repenting to the individual that he or she did wrong.
      When the individual repents to the person, then forgiveness is on the table.
      Biblical forgiveness is also when a person stands in the stead for individual( trangressor) in order for the offended to possibly forgive the individual
      This means the person pleads their case or makes on their point on the behalf of the individual( trangessor) asking the offended( person who was done wrong ) to forgive, but the forgiveness is not always guaranteed by the offended ( the person who was done wrong).
      I agree what you said, it's not right to gaslight a person with forgiveness, which is from the doctrine of forgiveness in the religion of Christianity.
      From the doctrine of forgiveness, it says that we have to forgive no matter what type of wrong that person does without taking no accountability by repentance, which I am extremely against.

    • @texasgoddess323
      @texasgoddess323 Před 10 dny

      @@TylerJTI Tyler, thank you for your detailed answer! I always hear ppl say that you forgive the offender regardless of them asking for the forgiveness. Sometimes my heart lets someone off the hook when they have done me wrong, even when they didn’t ask for it. But there are some egregious things, like continuously hurting children on purpose, that I cannot let off the hook. Plus, those ppl must answer to law enforcement.

  • @lalelale9172
    @lalelale9172 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hmmm, maybe you onto smthg cause it says "if a brother or sister has smthg against you forgive them before you pray" but narcs are not my bro or sis 🤔

    • @TylerJTI
      @TylerJTI  Před 9 měsíci

      Yes I would like you to check my archives: it talks about the forgiveness deception

  • @RAJNOVA784
    @RAJNOVA784 Před 2 měsíci

    Jesus says to forgive.

  • @MrBillybathgate5
    @MrBillybathgate5 Před 9 měsíci

    Tyler