The easy way to get a bit more performance out of Ryzen 3000 CPUs on ASUS motheboards.
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FYI. Thermal Shutdown happens at exactly 115c. Don't ask me how I know...
Ouch which poor CPU felt that.
How do you know?
j.k.
You, you're a maniac
@@syth-1 what if he did it on like a ryzen 3 1200 that they sent him as a bios conversion kit? :O then he's just a mad lad genius.
I bet the last thing in your CZcams watch history before that happened was one of those Minecraft Ultra Graphics videos.
I WAS TODAY YEARS OLD WHEN I LEARNED THAT MY MOTHERBOARD ACTUALLY DOES HAVE XMP OPTIONS IT'S JUST CALLED DOCP.
lol
DOCP is just AMD's version of XMP which is an Intel standard.
@@christopherjames9843 its actually just ASUS no other company uses "docp"
@@plusixty8992 I think Gigabyte used something called "EOCP" at one point.
relatable AF
got a 5% increase on cinebench after this with my 3700x on asus tuf x570. thanks, dude
@SmashStomp Inc just sitting here watching my CPU Cort voltage, it's bouncing around .8 - 1.3 with a few background apps running
@SmashStomp Inc are you on x570 with latest bios and chipset drivers?
@SmashStomp Inc but have you also updated the bios of the motherboard? That is important as well
How much more heat was generated?
@@Phamine I did not see any noticeable change in thermals, but I'm also running a noctua cooler, not the stock cooler.
Great stuff, as always, Buildzoid! I had already translated this over from your video with the 3950X and Gigabyte X570 Aorus Extreme. I have a 3700X and Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Hero and it did squeeze a little bit more out of it. For memory I have a 16 Gb 4000MHz Teamgroup kit that I've clocked down to 3600MHz as well. Thaiphoon Burner says that it's Samsung B-die, so I went ahead and tightened up the timings using the Ryzen D-RAM calculator "fast" settings. It's been running this way since whenever the other video was published without any hiccups whatsoever. I'll have to run the benchmarks again to see what my scrores are again. The one score I kind of remember is CB R20 being just over 5,000. It's probably worth mentioning that my CPU is liquid cooled by a custom loop.
"The easy way" .... 40 minutes later ...
Actually he provided what to set quickly. At that point you could have just stopped watching the video and had good results.
@@HenryThe12 So you haven't seen Gamers Nexus 8 hour overclocking streams?
Ez way to waste time
A script would have made this video far more efficient.
So you have not yet heard about Memtest´s Nightcycles, i guess
Thanks for this! I have this exact mother board and am trying to learn about overclocking, so this video really helps by simplify things for me! Super cool!!👍👍
Thanks Buildzoid! How long till ASROCK? Are you going to use the x470 Taichi or an x570 board?
Is there any tells tweaks that will improve single threaded/ gaming performance? Or is it only memory tweaking and cooling for that?
Couldn't have come at a more perfect time. Literally just built my new computer with an Asus mobo yesterday lol
Then be sure to use PBO with ASUS Level 3 setting which will boost single core perf and givela good multi with little or no core volt boost also (-50mv offset) regardless of his statements either he damaged his CPU or got a bad one Every other review (ASUS) gets good results
I was actually planning out a build on pcpartpicker last night with this same mobo so this was perfect for me too
Ditto , built my new PC with 3700x and Asus Tuf gaming Wifi just last week. :)
Brennahan I’m in the same boat too. Just built my first gaming pc in like a decade a couple weeks ago.
R5 3600 / ASUS x570-e mobo / sapphire nitro 5700 xt
I was literally on the brink of returning my gpu because of the black screen driver issue, even requested a return, and then AMD dropped a driver update Saturday (needed to send card in Sunday at the latest) and so far it seems fixed but I really hope it 100% is cause I can’t return it now and warranty’s don’t typically cover driver issues.
@@radicalxedward8047 Good choices overall. In my build I'm using a red dragon 5700 and flashing bios to xt. The sapphire is even better tho because of the dual bios and comparable thermos
Any Msi board.... since the bios is almost the same on all of them + some tips for voltage. Please and thank you
On my MSI X570 Tomahawk I found these settings under "Overclocking/Advanced CPU Configuration". After I changed Precision Boost Overdrive to "Advanced", they appeared underneath it.
Okay, so... I've seen a lot of people talking about running PBO and shaving .100mV off the vcore and making pretty decent gains off the 3950X while getting rid of the voltage seesaw and better temps. Curious to know what your thoughts on this are?
the issue is if you drop the voltage too much you'll get BSODs so if you want to mess with negative offsets you basically NEED to stress test.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yep, I figured stress testing would be necessary. I was just curious about the claim that lowering the voltage is getting people more performance. I get the logic with Zen's boosting behavior, it's just still counter intuitive. I'm going to try a negative .05v and see what happens. Going to be doing what you showed in the video as well.
Really enjoying these types of videos
I was waiting for this but I tinkered on my own ..
Now I realise I did the exact same things, thanks Buildzoid, all those hours of OC tutorial totally paid !
Almost all PBO settings are present 3 times in the Asus BIOS. In Ai Tweaker, CBS and AMD OC. Has anyone found out what menu works best or are they all the same? They do not overwrite each other which is super wierd.
This.
That's an interesting one I was unaware of. Do share the information if you find out, I'm curious to know this myself now.
+1
ASUS needs to fix their BIOS.
Which is ironic considering they had the best BIOS's in the past.
I just type in all the same settings at all these places. Seriously this is really stupid.
im getting into overclocking more, really helped you explaining what these mean
loads DOCP on 2400G
Motherboard instantly dies...
thank you Asus...
Max boost clock overrride absolutely works -- on a 3600, and on that only -- because the boost algorithm is artificially capped there at 4200. Giving it +200 effectively makes it into a 3600X, and you see 4400 in single core boost.
depends on the cpu, tried out this setting already months ago, yes, ryzen master shows 4.4 ghz "possible clockspeed but in reality the cpu never boosts to it. allcore boost didnt increase as well
@@MegaDominik1 same here on my 3600😕
my r5 3600x sometimes boost to 4.5ghz with asus crosshair viii hero
@@parabelluminvicta8380 I used to see around 4.45 or 4.475 at launch with my 3600x on my msi x470 gaming plus mb
Yeah. My R5 3600 with PBO and auto oc +200 gives me 4,400GHz single core boost. Asus C6H mobo. And allcore boost depends on the load, on cine r20 it gives 4,100-4,050GHz
An other 4am packin the knowledge in... Thank you buddy!
Hi, useful video. I have a 3900x is there any way to increase the max single core boost frequency above 4.6ghz?
Hey BZ! Got any tips on RAM Stability. I'm using an Aorus Z390 Master using 2x8 4133mhz patriot viper but I've got another 2x8 kit coming. I was thinking of trying to tighten my timings to 3200mhz CL11 or something
Asus Crosshair VI owner here. I've used the +200 offset for the past couple of weeks along with power limit increases on my 3600. It shows boost to 4.35ghz, which it goes to quite often even on fairly heavy cinema4d rendering workloads. Performance is quite a bit better gaming, but i'm pretty unsure of the results since there was the clockspeed bug not too long ago. Will have to do more testing at stock.
BehindEnemyFences do you mean the clock speed +200mhz or vcore offset +200mV. The additional 200mhz does work for me on c7h but on only singlecore stuffs.
@@nhozdien5058 A +200mV offset from stock would absolutely decimate a poor 7nm cpu lol. Just the +200mhz in the pbo/ power limit section. I'm also water cooled so it's running under 50c at all times, thermals are a game changer for staying on boost with Ryzen.
8:29 Default sets to 395/160/190 for 3700X for reference
Are there any videos for the next level of overclocking, maybe an intermediate level one? I've got the BFG notura and would like to know what else I could tweak to get a little more out of my CPU.
Can we apply this settings on a x370 gaming pro carbon for a 3900x? On my 1600 with 1.4v it's always at 50c on the vrm . Really want to upgrade to a 3900x just afraid of toasting the board lol
Max CPU Boost Clock Override did work for me on my Asus Prime B350-Plus with 2600X, I found 125MHz to be the sweet spot. Pretty minor change as you might expect. I guess I'll try the Scalar now, I had heard that's the one that does nothing. I'm not touching those power limits with this board's VRM though. UPDATE: After 30 runs I found the Scaler more beneficial than the Boost Clock Override, and the benefits don't stack (no benefit from changing both for me). Best performance I got was Boost Clock on Auto and Scaler on 8x. Only tests I ran were a CS:GO benchmark and Cinebench R20, the only time I ever got CS:GO to score above 250fps was with the scaler on 7x and 8x.
If you want to try out the numbers for PPT/TDC/EDC on a Gigabyte motherboard, make sure you tweak 'Package Power Limit Control' on [Peripherals]-[AMD CBS]. Set it [AUTO] to [Manual] and put the number (300) as BZ suggests.
@Buildzoid and @everyone ASUS doesn't use XMP for AMD mobos ram because is an Intel copyrighted term and could sue them that is why they use the generic term for the same thing
basically. Its kind of like that diesel truck part company that wanted to trademark a color of blue....
Thanks for the easy guide. Worked ok for me on a x570 tuf gaming WiFi and a 3800x, 16 gigs trident z neo @ 3600mhz and a Rtx 2070 super. Went from 4790 to 4910 on cinebench. Not huge, but better than nothing.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS CHAMP, I ONLY LISTEN TO YOUR ADVICE AND GN. I GOT A X570 TUF AND 3700X DDR4 3600 GSKILL. SHOULD I USE PBO ON STOCK COOLER? IS IT WORTH THE TROUBLE FOR GAMING? I HAVE 2080 SUPER.
Thanks BZ... only just came across this from the GN side. Quick question... can I safely use 3600Mhz on my 3200 kit Samsung B-die kit? Was in there playing around with it awhile back and after I flashed the Tuf X570 to 1407, my RAM is back set to 2133, so I need to fix that and was wondering. Thanks
quick question, should I use the additional 4pin cpu cable if i do this? right now im running this tweaked setup on only the 8pin. cheers!
Hey buildzoid, i have a question regarding overclocking.
Now, i have a problem with my setup. I utilize a heavy overkill Open loop (x1 240mm, x1 280mm*45mm wide, x1 360mm radiator) together with an Asus crosshair 7 ( another overkill, yes i know). Now while i know how good the temps are and i know the voltage supply from the motherboard is not going to be a problem i am trying to literally break the wall limit with this CPU (AMD R5 2600) and i am canibalizing it for real.
I spend yesterday (3/2/2020), more than 4 Hours trying to find the fine line of maximum clocks and reliability. Sadly while the temps are way too cool * max 74C at 155W and 100Amps current i cant get a stable 4.3+++ GHz all Core with static voltage OC 1.47++V. I run Cinebench R15 and i also see sometimes with some luck a completed rendering but without any extra Rating point at 4.35GHz compared to 4.3 for example. The maximum achieved possible rating was 1481 all core Cinebench R15. I did run prime95 but seems that cores are going off after 5 minutes and seems more unstable in comparison with Cinebench.. It seems like the thermals are not the problem here, the CPU could go 80C+ at 4.4 GHz but physical (inner Resistance, Transistor amount, i dont even know what to think) seems like impossible! I am trying to counter it with more voltage but it ain happen! I the maximum voltage i tryied was up to 1.49V.
I do run my mem Setting 3400Mhz 14-14-14-28. * Gskill Trident Z 2x8GB - I dont know if they are Samsung/Micron dies or whatever..
Now, the reason why i push that much.. well, i invested heavily in a cooling solution (long term usage will pay back) but also on my graphics card. I own a beast 2080ti which works also with the water loop. But playing some games (actual example AC origins in 4K) the processor bottlenecks so hard on some places that i see an average GPU Core Usage value of 73%ish and i cant even exceed the 40 frames per second! That sucks!!! I tryied to change that with even more OC but it ain getting there. I regret not buying the 8700K afterall.. and investing every year in AM4 Platform to reach sometime the Intel capabilities in single core or even all core is also meh, since i will reach the 8700K costs and still being slower. Any suggestions what can i do?
With regards, a filthy casual
It looks like the Overdrive Scalar thing works for me. I've set it to 2x and power consumption while prime95 128k was about 120-123W. Set it to 3x and it spiked to 137W. 3700x, Asus Prime X570 "Pro". Bios version is 2606
17:01 the 65w TDP comes from the CPU core power limit being 65w. When you add the SoC wattage on top of that it'll bring it up to 80ish. My 3700x pegs exactly at 65w on the core power consumption at stock PBO settings. Still doesn't make sense to call it a 65w TDP CPU though.
SO i was thinking of buying a 3900X on an ASUS TUF X570 motherboard and then manually overclocking it to 4.3ghz with 1.35 on the Vcore, and making the other necessary changes with that. I have read many articles and spoke to many people who have said these settings work perfectly fine and grant a stable all core experience. But considering i have seen this and heard a fair bit about PBO being alright, would it make more sense to do this instead of a manual overclock, or in combination with it?
BTW i'm going to be using a 3600Mhz Cl16 kit of ram, and i don't think i'm going to push it any further.
Great and informative video! What about using these on an asrock b450 mobo?
So which real life workload will benefit from this ? Or is this just for the benchmark? What about running VMs ?
Hello BZ, I really enjoy the way you put your videos, actually for this one I kinda miss the white board with the numbers.
question will the msi b450I gaming plus ac motherboard handle those new 3000 chips while overclocking? i do have the 1600af at 4.1ghz 1.32volts llv4. also got some hyperx 3466 ram today RAN OUT THE BOX ill add with xmp pro 1. but yeah at you master >!!
nice vid, thanks.
guys, whats your choice for new setup ?
Asus TUF x570 plus gaming
VS gigabyte x570 aorus elite vs gigabyte x570 aorus PRO
Hi Bz : Gigabyte 1st, now Asus... Any chance you make a similar video with MSI mobo ? Thanks for running this channel by the way. I Just discovered it, and I love it !
Plan on doing one of these for MSI Motherboards?
I was hoping that you would go into the DIGI+ VRM settings on the asus
so my 3700x on a crosshair 7 with 32gb of 3200mhz cl14 ram is scoring around 4900 on cinebench r20, was curious if there is a much a difference if i just set pbo to enabled or manual like you have shown.
Great vid.
Question:
I recently installed 3600MHz C14 RAM. When i run a userbenchmark test, my ram is performing "below expectations". Is that a reliable test?
CPU-Z, Ryzen Master and BIOS DOCP all say its 3600MHz with the correct cas latency timings 14-14-14-34 @ 1.45V.... R7 3700x (pre-built computer btw)
3900x asus crosshair VIII Formula board with kraken x73 nzxt AIO . my idle temp at 60 to 67 c with 34 c ambient. any way to cool down bios at stock only docp profile 3200Mhz is set
What would selecting higher levels of LLC do like going 3 or above?. Running a r7 3700x on an Asus Vi hero x370
Hey buildzoid, I remember watching a video like this but for gigabyte boards, am I dreaming or is there one?
Sorry if I ask here do you think an asrock b450 pro 4 can handle a new Ryzen 3000 with more than 8 core without overclock?
I cooled the vrm with a fan right now since I'm operating a 2700x lightly overclocked.
I am more interested in raising the boost in light workloads like gaming....my x2600 used to boost to 4.35 when I tested it in the beginning but since then I can only get to 4.24 and not sure what did the trick before...on a asus c7h
Just built a pc with 3800x and Asus x570 tuf, per BZ’s rec. Just tried these settings, got 5,940 on C20. Question is what to do w AMD Ryzen Master, leave alone? Do the bios settings override the RM settings or do I need to adjust anything?
the pbo scalar does work if you put it to 10x and put 200mhz on the boost override and set the edc to 1 to 10 it will allow the cpu to boost alot. depending if it can hit the extra 200mhz if anything it would hit about 125mhz extra boost or 150mhz.
I have active cooling over the VRMs on a B450 using a 3600. It has AIO cooler, I know you said this is bad if your using lots cores lika 3950, but these settings ok for a 3600? Board is TUF b450-plus - thanks
does this work when manually oc 3700x to 4.4 ghz i mean by changing the power limit with a manual oc is it possible or do u need to keep it stock to do this
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking I have R9 3950X on Asus Prime X370 - Pro motherboard (cooler Noctua NH-U12A). I used to use PBO with manual setting enabled (unfortunately I did it before you published your guide and I set scalar to 10x, max boost to 200MHz and I left rest of the settings to auto - I know options I changed are meaningless according to your guide but they unlocked power limits as well) and I observed that CPU is able to keep much higher frequency than stock (3.8-4.0GHz vs 3.2GHz) when runing Prime 95 with custom settings 128k-128k. During mentioned Prime test with PBO enabled CPU was producing more than 220W of heat (according to HwINFO64). CPU on stock produces ~140W. After few minutes computer turned off (temperature on CPU was below 80C). Now I wonder what caused this unexpected shut down - VRM overheating? Is my mobo capable of handling R9 3950X with PBO enabled? Do you think there is any sense to check system stability with Prime 95 AVX2 enabled and small sample set (128-128k produces enormous amount of heat...)? I would be gratefull for your response.
Hi
I have ballistix sport 2400 red and xmp sets it up on 3000 so should I stick with that or is it ok to overclock ram higher?I have a Asus b450ma with 2070 super ventus oc with a Corsair single radiator aio.
Been testing my 3950X on X570 master, i get about the same performance with undervolting as this but it runs ~15-20c cooler. My system now max out at 68c and fans dont spin up ( prime 95 small FFT)
my settings is mem 3800 IF=1900
PBO = OFF ( in both menus )
Undervolt -0.10000V ( higher UV needs LLC high/turbo)
LLC = auto
CB20 ~9550
Cpu-Z SC 550 MC ~11200
Hi Dennis, can you share what settings need to be done in the bios for the undervolting ? I am new to this. I did the precision boost and tried running cinebench and my system shutdown cause processor reached 107 degrees. And that is with a corsair 280 mm AIO push pull. Not sure what is wrong either the cooler or the thermal paste.
Does custom windows power plan like AMD, 1usmus or neon-dev make any difference to system performance or temperatures?
Use the Ryzen Balanced Power Plan. It's configured to let 3000 gen Ryzen to respond in 1ms I believe. The plan will set your CPU minimum processor state to 99% and max to 100%. That's what is recommend by AMD, and by 1usmus himself after a windows update a while ago. If you use windows balanced power plan your temps might lower at idle but your CPU will only be able to respond every 15ms and not 1ms. So for best performance use Ryzen Balanced Power profile. My temps are fine with it too.
EDIT: I'm using a 3700x and I also use a custom fan profile in my ASUS X570 Gaming-F bios and AMD wraith prism cooler. My country gets very very hot.
I have a 3950x, msi gaming x trio 2080ti and 10 case fans with only a 750w power supply gold+. Will these settings be too much for the power supply to handle? Like, will it try to pull more power when there's not enough?
Question though, I have an gigabyte x570 elite with a 3700x, is it normal for it to be at 1.4v? Should I set the CPU vcore to auto or set it to 1.325?
Just a quiky if you think the CPU draw to much voltage why would you leave it on auto?
Is there any specific reason for that?
With the widely different performance results and apparent changes in how this system works i've taken to just locking my 3900x to 4.2 all core. I did have it reaching 4300 all core on PBO with a non all core boosting to 4.5 at one point which completely disappeared after a reboot, now PBO will not go above 4.0 regardless of settings.
Tutorial for MSI motherboards? (Or was there one already done?)
i have this cpu/motherboard combo, but paired with 3200c14 ram which i'm running at 3600c16. my cpu flat out refuses to boost properly on cinebench and i'm getting scores in the 4300 region. i'm not sure if i'm doing anything wrong of if something isn't working right. i've noticed that my all core boost caps out at 4Ghz and single core is 4.2 instead of the stated 4.2 all core and 4.4 single. any ideas?
I have the ASUS B450 ITX mother board with a 3700x and 3600 ram, and this did actually work, i had DOCP and PBO enabled and set to auto before. IT gave me a boost of almost 400 score better in 3dmark.
An updated version of this for 5000 cpu's would be nice :)
You have a plan to make this testing and ram in x570 Msi boards ?
Yiss been waiting for this.
i know that on my factory croosshair8hero bios and my 3600 the 200mhz boost clock override WORKED, but with updated bios same board and 3950x it doesnt work at all. same cooling both
I am getting random reboots with following the steps that are mentioned, what can I do to fix it? there are no error logs, so I am not sure whether DRAM XMP failed or PBO failed
I got 4865 scrore on Cinebench r20 when Overclocked as you did, stock score was 4558
So almost 300+ points
My 3950x averages around 4100 on c20
@@Tallnerdyguy Then your doing something seriously wrong.
@@GraphicallyChallenged ya, i was looking at my r15 score lol
With 3700X with PBO, Noctua NH-D15 and a little overclocked 3200/CL16 memory to 3733/CL16 + better subtimings + FCLK 1866, I'm at 4990 best score in R20. Can't break the magical 5k though.
@@MaxiimTribe I can keep 1.4V 4.3 GHz and get over 5200 in R20 but I rather keep single the core performance as well :)
Tried this with my 3800X on a TUF X570 Gaming. And a 280 MM AiO. There was no difference in perfornance over Auto. However with a wattmeter (built into APC) there was no wattage draw difference between the manual settings and auto, hitting between 260 and 280 watts system power while running CB R20. Could just be my CPU/MB combo isn't being power limited as much on Auto.
On the Gigabyte x470 Gaming 7 it will Not keep the PPT setting If you try and raise it above 142.
is that an MB thing where say the VRM just isn't capable of delivering that?
Dude, my score in cinebench tops at 4750-4800 range on a dark rock 4 pro cooler, and cpu heats up to 82 C during the test. Is it just because of cheap 3466 memory in my setup or it's just poor heat dissipation in my case and it just throttles?
Even with the same exact settings, (I also have an ASUS motherboard so same BIOS), I'm still getting 4563 in R20 with my 3700X.. Is it possible that having 3200mhz RAM is making that much difference?
Any chance this will work on my water cooled Asus Prime X570-Pro 3950x? I am looking for any ideas on how to maximize performance on this setup.
i checked my Vcore on my msi bios. it was at 1.376V to 1.38V at auto. is this normal voltage for a ryzen 3600 at stock settings?
Great video! Would the VRM on the ASUS crosshair 6 extreme be beefy enough to run a 3950x with pbo enabled? Would you run 3200mhz C14 Samsung b-die at 3600mhz with higher timings or stick to 3200?
crosshair 6 should be fine
Cosshair 6 user here with bdies and a 3700X: ram runs at 3733 cl16 cause mine can't do cl14 at that frequenc. But for the best performance you want to max out your fabric clock first and foremost, so definitely run at 3600, see if it does cl14, if not i think pretty much any bdie will do 3600 16-16-16-16-34 at 1.45v
(Any bdie that isn't complete garbage that is, if it does 3200 cl14 this should be no problem at all)
Hi i have a 3600 non x and Asus Prime X470. Did the PBO settings as explained. Still dont go over 3950mhz all core?
You have to change power options, like load line calibration, etc there is a guide on ltt and also some ram settings from 1usmus, had the same issue now boosts close to 4.2
housemates had a few thermal shutdowns with static overclocks (doesn't bother testing temps properly) it seems to be over 100c when it does, and it comes up with thermal shutdown triggered in the bios
how do you change how the bios looks? mine looks like crap yours is very clear!
hallo there I have a problem were I ran my AMD CPU 2600 overclocked at 4.2ghz for more than a year but now the overclock is no longer pulling trough in to windows. I bios over clock is on also xmp for mem but in window it is running stock clocks If I setup a profile with rizen master it over clocks the cpu but memory cas latensy is still not correct and also not mem speed
I have an MSI meg ace x570 MB I have a 3950x do the same settings apply ?
Hm. This made absolutely no difference for me. Any ideas?
Strix X470.
3800X.
I tried within the PBO menu on AI Tweaker, made no change.
Then I tried under advanced menu>overclocking and it still made no change.
Just built my PC with a 3950x with the asus 570 formula board. would these settings be okay?
what if i'm stable at 3800mhz and 1900mhz fclk with it coupled? do i lose any performance beyond 3600 and 1800 fclock?
I used these limits for a Ryzen 5 2600X in an Asus Rog Strix B450-F motherboard. Latest bios - 3003. Is this also ok?
3700x manual 1.32V under load all cores 1.3V 4.3Ghz all cores and FCKL 1900 RAM 3800 cl16 manual timing, and everyting is very stable, max temp TDIE is 77C under stress test
is it ok to run on that manual overclock or better leave to PBO as you mentioned and leave ram and FCLK on stock XMP profiles?
under full load i can see 1.28-1.30V and i think it is not high at all
What's a good board to buy that's not expensive..I thought the b450 tomahawk was the best ryzen board you could get
Two weeks ago I spent a few hours messing with PBO and found that PPT 300, TCD 250, EDC 0 and Custom Scalar 4X works best for a Prime X370-PRO with 3700X and 5406 beta BIOS, I get around 5030cb in multicore and 513cb in single in Cinebench R20.
Where did you find the 5604 BIOS? Latest on the website is 5220, been checking it now and again waiting for an agesa 1.0.0.4 but been no updates since sept 19'.
@@406mill Its 5406 test bios, you can download it at hardwareluxx forums.
Sorry, it's 5406, not 5604, just fixed the post. Search for "PRIME X370-PRO ComboPI_1004PatchB" and you'll probably land in Hardwareluxx forums or leddit page with the link. Note that spread spectrum is broken for Zen 1 and Zen+ in this beta if you plan to BIOS mod it.
Is it just me or were the FX series CPUs easier to work with (at least with thermals) than ryzen 3000 cpus? My 8350 could hit 4.5-4.7ghz and stayed at or below ryzen temps
Well now I can see max single core frequency around 4350 mhz on my R5 3600, but still get 0 performance increase in full load. Manual 4.2 of all cores 1.35V do job better.
I have two 3900x to choose from (the other I have to give to my friend) if I do this on both, would the higher performer instantly mean it is the better chip? Or does heavier manual oc need to be done to find out?
This would be a great question to get answered. I literally have to 3900x's sitting on my desk right now and would like to avoid endless oc testing.
How do i get past 60c thermals? even with the most aggressive TPO it doesnt want to go higher than this. 4200mhz all-core, with peaks over 4600 single core. I think there's thermal room to do better don't you think? Mobo is Aorus x570i, is it the VRM that's the bottleneck here? Idle temp 27C.
you think changing these powere limits will work for ryzen 5000?
I set the what you set in the bios and the power consumption does not change 3900x (150W in Cinebench r20, Prime95) 360 AIO, temperature 76 Celsius❓❓❓But i see the 300W PPT in Ryzen Master😀
I tried this with my Asus Prime B350M-A (latest BIOS 5406) and a Ryzen 7 3800X, and I cannot get any inprovements whatsoever in Cinebench R20 outside of margin of error. That makes me conclude PBO does nothing in my setup. This might be because B350 doesn't have Precision Boost Overdrive? But in that case, why's it even in the BIOS menus?
Can I do all of this in Ryzen Master or should I stick to the BIOS?
Why on the gigabyte extreme motherboard you used the XFR PBO setting and on Asus you go straight to AI Tweaker .Asus also have the XFR Option I wondering why you didn't use
ah learnt something there got a question about Asus mobo's wondering if you've ever come across this I have a x470 crosshair vii and for some strange reason I can't change voltage well I can but it just decides to default to 1 volt whatever I change it to thats with 3950x by way real strange thought I might be missing a setting somewhere