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Please do an ASUS 129 update, recommended settings is all over the place in forums.

Thanks for these videos RAM Jesus

thanks for the stream

Please APU bench with this memory!

Why pelople still use TM5 0.12? Latest is 0.13.1

Can you please make a vid for Asus motherboards?!

Your MSI settings were perfect to increase my memory DDR4 performance. Thank you!

please ASUS

That's insane. Intel were known at one point to run a lot cooler than AMD cpus. Of course after 10 years of not upgrading my rig, that I buy a 14900k cpu, and I've been out of the scene only to return to this mess.

Man do I miss the core 2 duos... Back then OC was fing OC. Even though CPU is locked and tied to all the buses I could still push it 40% or so on stock cooler (with the help of my dad, lol, drilling into the case strategically and placing more fans). Even with all that torture it lasted from 2006 all the way to 2015, and BIOS resets (we have unstable power) were felt so hard that some games were borderline unusable at stock.

When did you become OC Jesus?

Have these timings been fixed by now?

Ram Jesus has come to judge our timings, the end might be near.

Orgsnise these RAM timing videos better, it's fine to prioritise super chats but then also ignoring the people who posted earlier in the stream then choosing something at "random" feels very insulting. The Imgur system does not work

Both you and Steve from Gamers Next need haircuts.

Waiting for asus motherboard video with 0x129 microcode

First of all, thank you for the very informative and helpful videos on this topic. I have the 14700k and z790 on the Z790 AORUS PRO X . After the update on the new microcode bios, my CPU temps are huge, also voltages are higher. I'm using an air cooler (Deepcool AK620) maybe that's also an issue. Going back to Gigabyte OPTIMIZED profile, lowers the CPU temps and vcore.

Thank you for this guide. I have a question. As I understand the reason 6000mhz is the sweet spot isn't because of the motherboard but the chip itself. Would it be smart for me to buy 7000mhz or even 8000mhz ram now for future proofing? Since I'm guessing future AM5 chips will be able to support it reliably? I'm upgrading to AM5. That's why I'm curious.

Insane OC Would like to see this in game vs 6000 CL30

What was the max power draw on these tests?

Shouldn't I stick to LLC 6 or 7 because of the higher vdroop? Why u chose mode 3?

Great content, new sub here cheers m8

What is CEP?

have u thought of testing this with faster ram? :) I use 2600mhz DDR3 with really fast timings and it really benefits all benchmarks and workflow!

Hello buildzoid, do you have videos on Hynix JJR RAM overclocking? My RAM is JJR low bin F4-3200C-16D-GTZR trident Z. Unstable auto A-XMP on 1.350v. Gskill probably failed to keep it stable at these cl16-18-18-3-58 timings in their lab but still marketed it as such. Would 1.40v make it runnable? Would like some tips, thank you....

Mine is hynix afr as per thaiphoon but it mentions J on the last letter on the RAM sticker.

Hello Buildzoid. Do you have a similar video like this for the Ryzen 3000 CPUs? *3700x here. Am on MSI motherboard right now. But I guess, on motherboard vendors it will be very similar. Nice explanation on the loadline thing. The graph helped. My RAM is low bin F4-3200C-16D-GTZR trident Z. Unstable auto A-XMP on 1.350v. Gskill probably failed to keep it stable at these cl16-18-18-3-58 timings in their lab but still marketed it as such. Would 1.40v make it runnable? Would like some tips, thank you....

@37:15 interesting that you mention the mouse thingy, on my b450 gaming pro carbon, lite bios 2019 bios version, the mouse movements are rip. It's as if the dpi is 100 on the bios page.

Hello Buildzoid. Do you have a similar video like this for the Ryzen 3000 CPUs? *3700x here. Am on MSI motherboard right now. But I guess, on motherboard vendors it will be very similar. Nice explanation on the loadline thing. The graph helped. My RAM is low bin F4-3200C-16D-GTZR trident Z. Unstable auto A-XMP on 1.350v. Gskill probably failed to keep it stable at these cl16-18-18-3-58 timings in their lab but still marketed it as such. Would 1.40v make it runnable? Would like some tips, thank you....

I have a B650E-E, 7800x3d and 2x32 GSKILL ddr5-6000 30-40-40-96 and it runs with issues when expo is enabled. stutters in windows, audio crackles and pops, bsod and game crashes, an the ocasional stuck at boot. Fast boot, MCR and power down disabled, FCLK at 2000 expo 2 profile applied. But it passes karhu memtest 5 and prime95. Tried Expo 1 but is even more unsable and fails Prime95. No issues without expo applied. Any hints?

40:35 if the step size is 5mV, then 256 different values can refer to up to 1.83V.

GTG, Thanks BZ. Quick question, is there a reason for Level3 vs say level5? I've tested it on a 13900k, and 13700k now, seems to work well. But all and all, I like this tutorial/settings better than the one a couple years back, when I first setup the board.

I’m not updating to the new 0129. I’ll manually configure my bios. This whole fiasco is just frustrating. Intel needs to refund every one of these pieces of silicon garbage instead of beating around the bush with USELESS “placebo” fixes in the hopes everyone just forgets about it. No more Intel builds for me. I just cannot risk CPU failures in my builds.

I use Bios version 2305 for ASUS z690-F and 13600KF only change offset voltage target 1.250 and it runs fine, used this rig for 1.5 years now, IS this BIOs version good or am I missing someting about the voltage degrading issue thats going on? yea I also use corsair 360 AIO with kryo metalic paste

Thank you for doing this with an MSI board! It's much appreciated!! Applied this to my Z690 Unify and an MSI Z790I Edge, of course with some slight variances. Great results on both! Thanks again!

What if my cpu is pretty new should i update my bios?

Would really appreciate a similar video on an ASRock mobo ^^

2:51 lovely warning.. 😂😂😂😂

Thank you! This helped my VCore and temperatures on my i7 13700k. When I ran Cinebench R23 at stock with 0x129 microcode, I would get a max of 1.464V and immediately get 100 degrees C. Now with Lite Load 3 and a 0.08V undervolt, I get a max of 1.248V and it immediately goes to 91 degrees C and slowly creeps to 100 degrees. That’s much better and increased its score!

I have a B760 and i don't have the "offset" section in my bios , all i have is the Dynamic Vcore, i compared before and after applying some undervolting to the dynamic Vcore and i noticed high Cinebench scores with lower temps after the undervolting 🤷‍♂️. What is going on?

I have the same cpu and motherboard with the same bios version and the same settings for the undervolt and I get a 33000 score instead of 40000, any idea what could be the reason? (temps are around 80 while the cinebench r23 runs)

I got the best temps with this guide, but score on r23 dropped to 28.500. I9 14900KF. Exausted already.

How’s about 13/14600k and 13/14700k bios optimization???

Please,test it on 5.3Ghz with game vs stock speed.

Aw, my specially crafted comment with Unicode monospace font for better readability doesn't seem to have gone through, so here's an ASCII only version with worse readability. -------------------- Did you measure the LLC impedances for the Z690 board in the video? I tried to measure the values for my MSI Z790 Carbon WiFi board, with the following results: LLC____DC LL___Impedance Auto __110 ____1.10 mOhm ____100.00 % 1 ______10 ____0.10 mOhm ______9.09 % 2 ______17 ____0.17 mOhm _____15.45 % 3 ______22 ____0.22 mOhm _____20.00 % 4 ______29 ____0.29 mOhm _____26.36 % 5 ______36 ____0.36 mOhm _____32.73 % 6 ______61 ____0.61 mOhm _____55.45 % 7 ______88 ____0.88 mOhm _____80.00 % 8 _____110 ____1.10 mOhm ____100.00 % I hope I managed to measure them correctly, I'm not sure. I've also measured resp. noted down the MSI Lite Load Modes for my board, which are as following: Mode______AC LL___DC LL Mode 1: ____1 _______1 ___0.010 mOhm ___0.010 mOhm Mode 2: ____5 _____110 ___0.050 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 3: ___10 _____110 ___0.100 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 4: ___15 _____110 ___0.150 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 5: ___20 _____110 ___0.200 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 6: ___25 _____110 ___0.250 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 7: ___30 _____110 ___0.300 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 8: ___35 _____110 ___0.350 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 9: ___40 _____110 ___0.400 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 10: __50 _____110 ___0.500 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 11: __60 _____110 ___0.600 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 12: __70 _____110 ___0.700 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 13: __80 _____110 ___0.800 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 14: __90 _____110 ___0.900 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 15: _100 _____110 ___1.000 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 16: _110 _____110 ___1.100 mOhm ___1.100 mOhm Mode 17: _120 _____120 ___1.200 mOhm ___1.200 mOhm Mode 18: _130 _____130 ___1.300 mOhm ___1.300 mOhm Mode 19: _140 _____140 ___1.400 mOhm ___1.400 mOhm Mode 20: _150 _____150 ___1.500 mOhm ___1.500 mOhm Mode 21: _160 _____160 ___1.600 mOhm ___1.600 mOhm Mode 22: _170 _____170 ___1.700 mOhm ___1.700 mOhm Mode 23: _180 _____180 ___1.800 mOhm ___1.800 mOhm So as the DC LL stays at 1.10 mOhm, I'm not sure if LLC Level 3 + Lite Load Mode 3 would actually give usable results? At least it goes against the "match your LLC impedance" recommendation.

I've seen CEP also improving performance (all other settings being equal: MSI LLC4, AC/DC 52/32, -0.145V offset), in some situations even by 4%

You have curve optimizer on some boards I use asus B550 strix and I can set up to -30 on 5800X3D.

Asus z790 tuf D4, 12900k. Voltages 1.4000v static all cores sync. LLC 6. System agent 1.434v in HWinfo, XTU says system agent 1.404v VIDs max out at 1.428v Idle ~1.41v Load ~1.36v I like aggressive LLC but why such high idle voltages at 50 watts instead of 250 watts. I understand what is going on I am just less stable idling in windows at max OC than gaming or doing benchmarks. Does my 12900k need even more voltage to idle? I'm not comfortable with voltages over 1.45v ever. I found a good way to really punch your cpu with a load. Run windows defender full scan and wait for the 100% usage to kick in. I suggest you probe for that moment.