Abandoned by Rockstar - The Tragedy of Red Dead Online
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Rockstar Games had only explored relatively rudimentary modes of multiplayer in its games before the advent of Red Dead Redemption in 2010. The American West-set adventure, with its cooperative and competitive offerings, engendered the development studio’s first step into the wild west of expansive online gameplay. It made sense, then, that Grand Theft Auto 5’s multiplayer suite, GTA Online, allowed the team to unfurl its wings and do so in a way that generated multimillion-dollar earnings via in-game purchasing. But GTA Online didn’t achieve incredible success overnight. Several years and various post-launch updates would land before the experience hit its stride with 2015’s Heists update. The hope was that Rockstar would afford Red Dead Redemption 2’s online component the same room to grow.
Red Dead Online entered beta weeks after the prequel’s story campaign arrived in stores. It almost instantly became mired in controversy, too, mostly because of balancing issues with the in-game economy. Rockstar addressed the community’s concerns with haste, leading many to believe the move marked the start of a cadence that would always see the developer quickly respond to player feedback. This rapport between the production team and its Red Dead Online user base lasted for only so long, however.
A frustrated community felt the need to beg for meaningful content updates within two years of the multiplayer mode’s release. And after about three years, pleas for Rockstar to “Save Red Dead Online” had turned into a trending hashtag that even caught the attention of executives at Red Dead publisher Take-Two Interactive. Unfortunately, these noble efforts proved for naught, since, once again, the future of the western-themed franchise found itself playing second fiddle to the creation of new Grand Theft Auto content.
This is the tragedy of Red Dead Online.
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I truly believe this was the biggest missed opportunity for a role play game ever
we didn’t even get bank heists
Cause cash rules everything, and people weren’t spending money on gold bars
@@benwright6863 we got one bank heist and it was absolutely garbage payout for the time and effort you sink into it
RedM fix everything. Have fun time in RDR2 RP
Yea it’s called RedM. Best roleplay out there imo.
The game definitely had so much untapped potential
100% it could’ve been better than GTA Online. I had so many good times with my friends in RDO but Rockstar neglected us and made me have a sour taste of them and their games.
i seriously dont understand this company logic because the biggest work was already done and thats the huge awesome map. man all they needed to do was adding some nice content and everyone would be happy and also they could have made tons of money when they would just put in some love into the multiplayer
Yeah so does your face 🤷
They wouldn't let us rob banks because they don't want us to earn big money in game too fast.
@@averagechadlegionary5824 no, it could not have been better/more successful than gta online. Which is more fun? Horses or flying cars?
The fact that RDR2 never got an Undead Nightmare 2 campaign and that RDO never got an Undead Nightmare world/game mode is heart breaking, it could have saved the game IMO.
I don't think RDO was the route. They should've just given the player base Undead Nightmare and call it good. This is just my opinion.
RockStar no longer cares about single-player games, they are going full On-line. They've even admitted this with GTA6, where they say they will release the game in an unfinished state and that the rest will be released periodically On-line. Their attitude is, "Why make multiple millions with single-player content, when we (they) can make BILLIONS pushing always On-line content?" RockStar can easily do both but they won't. Its all about saving as much money as possible while making the most obscene profit as possible.
@Bonka Can only see rockstar/taketwo sue the modders.
Literally every time I hop in a posse that’s all people ever say, “if we got undead nightmare 2 it would save the game”. No clue why they did The Hollow Call To Arms but can’t do undead nightmares 🤦♂️
@@ClutchDre__
That's is simple to answer...RockStar CAN'T make billions of dollars selling microtransactions with a single-player Undead Nightmare 2 expansion. They can only do that with On-line focused games, which is why they are ditching single-player games int he future. They've admitted this.
the moment the community forced Rockstar to overhaul their monetary system was the moment Rockstar decided to put minimal effort into it in my opinion, if its not going to make them billions year on year then Rockstar don't care
It’s all money now, no creativity studios full of lobbyist instead of passion.
Then maybe should just go do something else, maybe instead of making games mine rocks or something. No more Rockstar the game makers, now Rockstar the quarry.
Like how much money one needs? Just make back your expenses and be happy. But with enough devotion and love for your work, a good product will sell good, so anything over your expenses is a serious win. You don't need thousands percent over that, 30% is quite enough.
Don't fucking spend so much on marketing... It should be about 3-5%, but anyway not more than 10% of the development expense. But nowadays these AAA games seem to have marketing budgets in the same ranges as the whole development budget, and that's just crazy.
The moment gamers started throwing money at these developers for hats and guns and cosmetic shit it was over
I agree. The monetary system overhaul made Rockstar bitter and instead of taking it in stride, they decided to be spiteful and petty.
@@somnorila9913 these companies are no longer comprised of the people who created the original games we love due to the passion they had for them. Videogames started making so much money that it attracted the typical leeches and vultures that swoop into an area when it becomes lucrative - and that is that type of ilk that has little or no passion at all for anything other than making as much money as they can, to feed off something until they dry it completely. Then they leave the dried corpse behind and move to something else.
It will never happen of course, but gamers should stop buying and supporting this big companies. Specially because they are absolutely run and controlled by these vampires, who push them to keep growing and growing (to get as much profit as possible in the short run, even if it will run the company to the ground eventually, making thousands of people redundant in the process) instead of building a sustainable profit and focus on developing good products connected to a healthy community (which is a long run endeavour - that does not fit the money-hungry executives who want their millions upon millions right now).
DICE, Rockstar and so many others are not made by the passionate teams of other times, their games are now done by executive decisions, created by committee, products developed like in a factory, where every risk is minimised as much as possible and consequently every game is about how much they can deliver of the same that has been done before, while putting the least amount of effort and maximising how much they can make people pay more and more.
At least there are still great indie devs as well as some AA ones too.
There was so much more they could of done. Why in a wild west video game can I not get a gang together to rob a train or bank? Where is my ability to buy and build my own home and start up a ranch? So sad that this great world got nothing like this to actually feel like living in the dying days of the wild west...
I highly agree with you, I want to be able to rob trains and rob banks. Just imagine how much gold and cash you would get! That would make buying things A LOT faster than just grinding 3 hours with the bounty hunter role.
@@stegimolock8237 i'm surprised they didn't add a texas ranger style career option to red dead online because just like Texas a lot of the other Frontier States also had rangers. one Frontier State had an African-American Ranger named Bass Reeves who was the inspiration for the Lone Ranger.
Look up RedM West World RP.
When I first jumped into Red Dead Online I was actually shocked not to see train & bank robberies, I thought it was completely obvious to have those things - sadly it looks like they built the online around microtransactions rather than around fun. I fear they'll make the same mistake for GTA 6's online
There are opportunities to do these between the low honor story line, bounty hunter missions and the blood money mission
It’s a shame that when it comes to (most) video game companies nowadays, money will always trump creativity. Amazing video, as always.
Edit: Lol, at no point did I say making money off video games was a bad thing. Obviously, as a business, these companies need money to operate and feed families, but most big name companies are so focused on making money for the executive team/shareholders that it becomes more important than making a finished, well fleshed out game upon release. See Cyberpunk, RDO, many EA/Activision games, etc. Making money off a game and making a good game doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive
The thing is GTA V online is one of the most profitable video games ever made, surely Red Dead Online could of been the same if they put more resources into it but as it stands there was never much for the player to do that would keep them playing long term.
It's like Apex legends, EA is fucking massive but gives the company no money and tells them to make more than they give, its not the devs it's these fucking companies
Weird, its almost like when your running a business you have to actually make money to fund projects and pay employees, because nothing is free...Funny how that works, maybe they should try paying for things with "hearts & minds" and see how that works out.
@@lutherheggs451 You can do both, don't act like that's an impossibility; you come off idiotic insinuating that.
Remember that games are an investment
The past 4 years of playing this has been one of pure joy and finally utter heartbreak of how they killed it
The part where they talk about how gta 5 makes millions of dollars per day and r* couldn't use a few million to make RDO content had me livid
It had the potential to be the greatest online experience ever R I p RDO
They would have turned into a GTA Online clone
@@Charles-hy6gp That's what I keep telling these assholes - GTA 6 will never see the light of day .... I wouldn't make a GTA 6 if I was calling the shots at Take 2.... Why??
Put yourself in Take 2 's position - You are earning 4 billion a year scratching your balls..... What are going to do???
..... Nothing - You're gonna sit back at watch the shark cards fly off the shelves.
Gamers are idiots. 15 years ago - the average gamer was 37 years old.
....now - it's 7 years old. This why modern gaming is such a pathetic joke.
@@bradley4385 czcams.com/video/2bzr4FqMLLk/video.html&ab_channel=ReviewTechUSA
Well being adult doesn´t mean that they are intelligent.
There is a 19 years old that spent 10k on microtransactions, look out ⬆⬆
@@Charles-hy6gp I think I remember watching that video 5 years ago - And things have only gotten worse..... But Rich definitely lost some weight!! ...
@@bradley4385 Could brought a car with that money.
Age doesn´t determine you intelligence and maturity at all.
First they tried to make it more appealing to GTAO player base by making gameplay faster, ruining it for people who prefer the pace of single player mode, then just abandoned it. Amazing.
Rockstar saw that RDR online won't print billions and they couldn't nickle dime players so they left it to die. It's just how it works
Increasing the speed of gameplay has always been the change I hated the most, the pace of gameplay in the beta was perfect plus the game has always suffered with lag and desync issues due to it being on peer to peer servers and increasing the speed of everything just made those issues more common/noticeable.
I hate GTAO's gameplay but i still abandoned the game in 2020, theres only so much you can do.. i couldn't make myself do the pointlessly tedious missions so that i could buy a new coat..
There was no point to save money other than to buy clothes or a slightly faster horse..
@@Legion849 Yeah games tend to generate less money when there isn’t anything to spend premium currencies on, combined with the fact that they’re so damn expensive, even if you do find something to spend it on it seems like a complete ripoff. Rockstar can literally only blame themselves for not producing much money.
This didnt have anything to do with GTA lmfao. No one wants to put their controller away for 5 minutes every time they want to skin some shitty animal for a meager sum.
Some developers could only dream of making something like this , yet rockstar throw it away like it’s nothing
Das rite, g
The lack of Rockstar Editor is a tragedy in itself.
Meh pictures and videos won’t save the game it needs a major update
@@random2wins570 that wouldn't be to save the game, even though the single player made millions, it would be for personal player expression.
@random2wins he is saying something as simple as an editor not being in the game shows how little they care about red dead
Money isn't an excuse. It's the 10th biggest earning game ever. The developers just gave a giant middle finger to the rd2 community. Imagine a Mexico DLC? EPIC
Soon as they figured out they could not make this GTA online in the old west with $100 flying horses they stopped putting in any effort.
jesus christ. No wonder games are shit, gamers these days are whiney babies.
Idk how you build a world so great and then abandon it.
Greed for money. Literally kills so much good media.
@@StopStealingMySandwich unfortunately this isn’t their hobby so it’s pretty understandable for them to leave rdo for other more profitable projects.
@@shanejones357 Doesn't make them not garbage.
@@thirteen_candles9806 most games don’t even provide half of the post release content rockstar did for rd2 so i don’t understand why you feel you are entitled to indefinite support for this game
@@shanejones357 it’s not really a feeling of entitlement, rockstar has been known to have pretty big dlcs and looking at the support gta v still gets 9 years later is crazy. It’s just a shame they only put a third of the effort in
I love RDO. I still play it daily even with the lack of content. I always find enjoyment in hunting, fishing, exploring, doing missions and discovering new ways to play. It’s awful they gave up so soon on the game while they are still feeding GTA from the teet. RDO has so much potential but they gave up on it Becuase it wasn’t reaching the already insane and far above average numbers GTA reached. I hope they eventually come to their senses and at least give the game one good update or outlaw pass before pulling the plug on the game for good.
W for still playing even with the lack of content
GTA has made them billions through shark cards, look it up, like a third of their stock price is directly because of kids buying stuff. I'd say they don't need to help GTA online, it's the same as it was at launch for some reason people keep coming back.
This one cuts close to the bone. I lived RDO for two years since its abysmal release. As soon as they came out with the idiotic animal conservation role i saw the writing on the wall, the game was dead. I will never forgive Rockstar for wasting such an amazing opportunity to create the best immersive wild west experience. They really should have let the main devs handle the RDO project, because i refuse to believe anyone higher than an intern was working on it.
Very edgy and tough to hate animal conservation 😂
@@willam123ful nobody hates animal conservation, what we all hate is that this is the best they could come up with, perhaps you should learn to read contextually instead of being edgey and assuming he's corresponding it to real life 🤷♂️
Got into RDO durring the recent collector bonus month and that ended up slingshotting me into the trader stuff as well and my love for it just snowballed from there but man is it clear they pivoted so hard from it. Especially when you consider the GTA6 leaks were from 2019ish.
It's an absolute shame what Rockstar did with RDO. There's never been a game like it, it's incredibly unique and has a bottomless amount of potential. It really could've been something amazing if it had come out from a developer who gave a crap about anything other than shark cards.
Any other developer would never give rdr2 as many support as rockstar did. Rockstar inverted 8 years and 7k + workers in 4 studios making the game. No other game in history is even close to those numbers. Big productions like borderlands 3 and the last of us 2 had less than 3k workers
Rockstar put that insane amount of work into a storymode. this isn't call of duty, online isnt the main focus for them. They could be earning 3 times more money if they only cared about online and shark cards but instead all the work goes into singleplayer experiences
@@DasHoovieok bootlicker
@@DasHoovie trash take. We never got any single DLC in rdr2!!
@@Gwilherm Neither did gta 5. And they still got sued for having people working like 100 hours a week to make rdr2. A game from a saga that will never make as much money as gta 5 but they still invested in it
@@DasHoovie Oh, you seems to undestand only what you want to understand.
As Red Harlow said : It was never about the money.
This one really hit home. I played rdo the very first day of the beta and I so looked forward to what it would grow into. It grew into 5 roles
I've been playing RDO on and off since the beta launched and I have to say that I've had a great time with the game. Got lots of great memories, and it is a shame that R* decided to abandon the mode, everyone that used #savereaddeadonline knows that there is so much untapped potential that will never be realized. This game will go down as the best western themed game in history, and RDO was truly a unique experience. I'm glad I played it.
I couldn't agree with your comment more.
I been playing since 2019 and that wasn't since launch.
I got my PS4 with RDR2 once I completed the story of RDR2 I then went into online.
I legitmately grinded my way up through everything except the Legendary Animal role.
I will always miss my passion and love about the game and the way how I played the game.
Great memories and great times. I tried playing again a few weeks back again to grind but it isn't the same anymore with the community griefing as always.
And meeting with strangers online on discord and whatever platform just to find a posse to make more money.
Been better off not playing RDR2 Online but instead others games rather do that to save my sanity than dive into a toxic community bullying you and meeting strangers for more money than the repetative solo grind.
I had such high hopes for this game and Rockstar has chosen to not care or even communicate till they said after months of this year they are not bringing any big updates and just recycled stuff.
This was honestly such a fantastic overview of what went wrong with RDO
As a beta veteran, who held out hope for something for some time, I still feel the weight of sadness that this game has left in me, I had made so many friends, that I no longer speak with because we don't play any other mutual games. For me, the death of RDO was long, hard, and truly a disappointment. One small nugget tho, after the GTA6 leaks, I couldn't help but feel just a little better. That these people that actively killed the game, would experience arguably one the greatest content leaks in recent memory, felt cathartic.
but it's the devs who suffered in the GTA6 leak. I'd wager that nobody in management, in a position where they might have had influence over RDO and GTA6, cares at all. Why would they? GTA6 will still make billions.
@Chili everyone's social lives are different. Maybe his friends live in a different state/country/continent and this was their way of keeping in touch. None of us know.
You're the one who needs to get over themselves.
Relate a lot to this. Had so much fun on it and hoped for new content. Sadly will never come. Miss having that hope for content.
@Chili it sounds like the only thing he had in common with these specific people is playing RDO.
@@requix11 "Sadly will never come. Miss having that hope for content." That's why i want to pay for stuff. I don't want to pay for promises and what-could-bes.
Imagine going to a restaurant and whatever you ordered gets delayed, then delivered with wrong and missing ingredients... and you hope that they will provide you with something edible in the next weeks.
I think a lot of us that joined in the “beta” back in 2018 had a lot of hopes to expand and develop the online into some pretty amazing things, considering what they had done in the first RDR and GTA5, alas this didnt come to be and the writing was on the wall early on.
Original Red Dead Online contained some of the best gameplay elements I’ve ever seen in a multiplayer experience, to this day
Dude OG RDO back in the 360 era was absolutely goated. Still one of the funnest and most memorable online experiences I've ever had in gaming. Played it for years upon years.
RDO2 couldn't touch the original online mode on it's best day.
@@ThePokestopPapi you’re damn straight Papí! One of the things I remember fondly was the opening duels to the gang shootout mode, that was such a cool mechanic. And when the lobby’s loading the drunken fist fights at the church! Or the posse wars? It all happened organically and it was beautiful
Wish I was happier about one of my favorite channels covering one of my favorite games… At this point, RDO is only as fun as you and your posse make it.
Longer videos welcomed, love the 30 minute plus ones.
Bought this game on sale and got pretty far in the campaign. I decided to dable in the online mode to see what its all about. I passed the tutorial and was excited to start my own adventure as my own cowboy. The game spawns me and I keep exploding randomly...like who or wtf is killing me. My character dies and it keeps happening over and over. Then I realize its the work of hackers. As a new player is quite dissapointing that there are game breaking hackers that don't allow new players to even begin their journey. I promptly quit and went back to single player and never looked back.
Could have swore that you can do a private lobby. Played the heck out of it for a good bit but it’s been awhile now, thankfully I missed the hackers…
@@MegaMaximus333 No private lobbies. The game is just so deserted of players (almost impossible to find someone outside of the main towns) that you felt like you were in a private server.
Basically my experience with GTAO apart from the hackers part. *20 seconds* after completing the tutorial I took a rocket to the face.
Oh to think about what could have been, and should have been. Rest easy RDO.
Not to mention the amount of cut content from the campaign. Imagine what we could have had.
I feel liked a couple years of my life flashed before my eyes watching this video, great detail and coverage.
Your voice is so not what I expect for a voice over of video game type documentary’s, yet it works so damn good with it. Your videos are great, i have watched your medal of honour video countless times, keep up the great work
What the game needed was singleplayer content, as was promised.
Undead Nightmare 2 was popular, but what I wanted was a mini-campaign following Sadie between the end of the main game and the epilogue.
I don't think they ever promised single player content for RDR2. GTAV on the other hand...
I posted this elsewhere but I was excited for this game and finally got around to playing it early this year. I got killed pretty frequently, and could not even tell if it was by players or enemies, and when I Googled to see whether I was missing something, I literally found a list like "14 things to do to get started in Red Dead Online" and I looked at the time investment involved to just get a foothold in the game, then looked at the rest of my Steam backlog and thought I could play and beat like five other awesome games in the time it would take to "get started" in Red Dead Online. No thanks.
Though this video did just teach me that Red Dead Online was not a standalone game until late 2020. Huh. I had no idea. I just bought it because I saw it was only $5 and that seemed like it must be a big discount, not that it had not even existed by itself before
The screen literally tells you when you were killed by another player.
Rdr2 story mode is a masterpiece, but online was boring as hell. I still think to this day that rdr online was unnecessary. All that effort could've been used to produce a single player dlc.
@@paulheap1982 It doesn't figuratively tell him that?
GTA5 and RDR2 are both classics. Even the PC ports, though not 5/5, are still excellent compared to most.
The online versions of both are miserably cancerous due to bugs Rockstar won't deal with, hacks Rockstar CAN'T deal with, and an overwhelmingly toxic console userbase that they choose not to deal with (because $$$). They are a "project" team, filled with ideas men and artists - they have absolutely no idea how to administrate an MMORPG, nor are they willing to admit it. So instead they just let it degenerate into anarchy so long as them shark cards keep getting bought...
As a day 1 and a level 140 now, I gave them way more hours than they ever deserved. They let us down big time.
Don’t worry about it you enjoyed it while it lasted which is all that matters at the end of the day
You have them as many hours as you wanted to
@@Westcoastrocksduh That's true after all
This is the future of gaming. Whatever brings in more money will survive. Doesnt matter how good a game is if it doesnt bring enough money itll be abandoned
This vid makes me sad when thinking about all the potential red dead online had
Even if there were bunch of updates I wouldn't play RDO. It is too grindy. RDR got its online right but in RDO it feels like a second job to unlock anything.
Seriously tired of that shit. Make it so hard to make money and buy cool shit.
@@terrorbilly49 It's grindy at first. After a few weeks of playing I had more money than things to buy.
REDM is basically GTA RP but for Red Dead Redemption 2, it's pretty fun and has some great communities out there, well worth checking out for anyone on PC looking for a continued experience with Red Dead Online. The mods and progress for REDM servers is pretty darn good.
Its cool but you can't compare the two. RP servers are for RPing (usually have strict rules) and theres no gameplay loop like RDO has. So its not for people that just want to play with their own character and having stuff to do. So I honestly would not recommend REDM to people, since there's pretty much nothing outside of RP servers.
in a perfect world I could RP through RDO in the general sense if they'd just allow GTA's passive mode, but alas. I have REDM installed, just a matter of finding an RP hub I'm comfortable with and have the time for.
@Bonka still completely sidestepping the fact that redm is all about roleplaying with other people, some people just wanna play with their character without having to turn on a mic and putting on a voice
@Bonka SP where I have nothing to spend my money on and play as a predefined character?
@Bonka I tried them, and because they're mods, they don't have the polish of official updates or DLC. There are no introductions, cutscenes, or new characters - just things to do for more money that I won't spend.
The word "tragedy" implies someone made an effort and failed.
Rockstar made ZERO effort for this. This was a cash grab, and it's putrid how little they tried for their new live service
Very true!
Thanks so much for making this video, and shining a light on this absolute tragedy, a story of what could have been such an amazing experience. I have reached out to other gaming creators via CZcams and Twitter, to no avail. Only content creators focused on Rockstar games are interested in discussing this topic in order to farm out 8+minute daily videos. Such is the world of Rockstar games content creators, I just want to thank you guys again, great work here., everything u said in this piece is correct.
RDO was the first game I played online with my friends so it will always hold a special place in my heart. The amount of potential this game had and then Rockstar just not given a shit is heartbreaking.
Aw man. This one really hurts. RDO had all the potential in the world. Also the fact that we never got ANY single player DLC makes RDR2 a bittersweet game for me.
Well they can't monetize it to absolute shit like gta online i mean what they will give you a flying horse , jet horse so they abandoned it
single player dlc?
holy shit mate, what more do you want?
@@YellowTissueBox I wanted single player DLC more than a half assed online mode, mate.
@@slinkbradshaw8674 played online mode with my friends. dunno when you grew up bro but for me, exploring a real ass open world wild west with the boys was fucking awesome. still is, we still go saint denis, steal carts and race them.
Fuckin' get some friends bro. stop being such a sob.
@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 The flying crap doesn't even make sense in GTA a game from 2013 so it's not like R give a f about logic or realism. I wanted Undead Nightmare 2.
I went into Covid lockdowns in Vietnam in 2021 and playing Red Dead Online every day helped me keep my sanity and simulate feeling connected and out in nature. The fact that it was so amazing and gave me great memories even while being neglected just makes it obvious the wasted potential it was
The most fun I had was running around with my Posse having gunfights in the towns and fighting with other Posses, it felt like early GTA O when everyone was on a level playing field
Rockstar only know "untapped potential" these days. Awful company.
Why couldn’t they have just added some fucking robberies and heists… wouldve doubled the player base easily
I've never seen a game with such high potential sabotaged by its own developers as hard as this. It's genuinely mind boggling.
For what they did to Red Dead...I really hope Rockstar goes bankrupt.
I mean all the talent that was in the company is gone. It's basically a corpse
Y’all are crazy. You act like this is a charity. It wasn’t pulling in enough money.
@@shanejones357 bc they never tried
@@tenthaep625 they released plenty of content for this game. It doesn’t matter. There isn’t anything to buy in the game. GTA 5 has hundreds of worthwhile vehicles to purchase. In rdr you buy the best horse for 1000 and a couple good weapons and you’re set. There is no incentive to buy gold.
@@shanejones357 Yeah, that’s a problem. Providing incentives for buying gold is what they should have done, rather than abandoning it for an almost decade old game.
Biggest tragedy is we never got another undead nightmare.
Your documentaries should be on streaming plattforms. Highest quality out there!
I just recently got back into the game to finish the campaign after setting it aside for a couple years. I originally made it about halfway through it at launch, but got burnt out on trying to accomplish everything possible as Arthur before the epilogue started and went back to other games I had been neglecting and just kind of forgot to pick it back up. Now it's just bittersweet approaching the final chapters knowing there won't be anything else to do once I 100% the story... I pray that someday they'll surprise us with UN2 and/or a remake of RDR1 added on after the ending so it'll be the entire story in one game, but I'm not holding my breath for such an obvious opportunity to revitalize the game.
You've done better than me, I got a few hours into it at launch and it bored the arse off me if I'm totally honest. Been on the shelf ever since. I didn't even know it had an online mode
I miss the days of private servers. We didn't have to worry about devs shutting down the multiplayer. Hell, you can still play the multiplayer aspect of so many games from the early 00's. Also, who remembers GameSpy Arcade, and All Seeing Eye?
@@hollyc5417 The game isn't shutting down soon.* Can't wait until they Max Payne 3 / LA Noire it. 💀
@Uncle Hoax strict rules, rping is its own topic,different kind of playing, etc. unless you like pretending to you know, rp… then it’s unfortunately and understandably not worth your time.
Nice to see when a channel get their well disserve sponsor after so much work :)
Amazing video as usual!
I've clocked triple digits in my time with Red Dead Online, had a blast with it but was so sad to see them drip feed updates or having to wait months for major issues like the wildlife not spawning properly to be fixed.
Developer studios always go downhill when veteran developers start leaving...
Only person here who ACTUALLY knows the "Why" this is happening, the R* of old is long gone and only the husk of the name remains.
They could have made a killing (pun intended) making Undead Nightmare for RDR2 or RDR2O! What a wasted opportunity. :(
This one is especially tragic for me, this game was a surprisingly meaningful experience in my gaming life.
I first played RDR2 when it released on PC, and I jumped right into multiplayer even though I was the only one of my friends with the game, so I was hitting the dusty trails on my lonesome. Then the pandemic hit, and everyone started isolating and everything was closed. RDR Online turned into my "outside simulator" for a few months there, and I convinced one of my friends to start playing with me (secretly to use him as "cheap labor" for the new in-game businesses I could finally afford).
I finally had awesome clothes, custom guns, businesses, was dripping in gold and money, and my friend was on a much easier path to success than I had to endure. We convinced 2 more of our friends to start playing, right around the point where my first posse member realized I was always getting the larger cuts as the business owner. Now he had worked his way to some regard of his own, and we had two more fresh "employees", but now we were a real gang. It was honestly just so much fun getting in cowboy-character with the boys, I still can't stop saying "howdy" as my go to greeting!
I actually had a lot of pleasant memories despite the feeling of the time. But the writing was on the wall when the updates slowed to an AGONIZING crawl, and a game we unexpectedly put tons of hours into just completely stopped being worth playing without ANY endgame or goal or direction or reward or even just a property or a wagon! We all had daily streaks in the high 50s minimum, I peaked at around 80 days. WE WERE COWBOYS! How do you have such a satisfying hook and screw it up?
Your voice is so cool, that I was listening to that SurfShark advert without even realising it lol I usually skip these ads
This game was nothing more than a experiment for Rockstar/T2 to see how much money they would be able to make by putting the less amount of effort possible.
This is my all time favorite game on pc. Rough day at work come come home and just hang out in this beautiful environment in 4K 60fps on pc is a sight to behold
You guys really make amazing professional gaming content
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Dude I have no memory of this. I remember on release that there was literally nothing to do but search for death matches, races or rob small stores for like 200 bucks.
Such a tragedy,indeed. Gamers could have enjoyed so much if things got done so smoothly.
This was literally the only game I played for two years. I would still be playing without updates had I not witnessed this company spend months completely ignoring a community that really just asked for an announcement more than anything. As it stands, I haven't played in months and will never give one second more of my life to any R* title. They are the tail thinking it wags the dog, and I will not be wagged. 🖕 R*
Their singleplayer experiences are still unparalleled though.
Picked up red dead 2 online during the trader event, so far im having a blast i play with 4-5 friends daily. It’s mostly the social interactions we have with each other, but agreed that it could be a lot more. Sucks for the people who have been playing since beta
remember that nakey jakey guy's vid about rdr years ago? that was a good vid.
Irony is they would have made more if they just released the single player content we asked for
I find it hard to believe that Rockstar can't afford to employ a permenant team to work on Red Dead Online. Rockstart si responsible for driving players away and they refused to make the mode better.
I'm mostly surprised Rockstar never considered implementing a Lone Ranger roll into Red Dead online given the most powerful Law Men in Frontier states were Rangers it would have been nice to have the option to play as the literal good guy. I wonder if it's because Rockstar ran out of ideas when it came to criminal activities.
Oh I'm sure they could. They just choose not to.
Of course they have the resources, but that doesn't make it financially viable. Do you not know how businesses work?
Thank you for your work, awesome video. Its great to learn more about the industry you love. Attempt nr 11: How about The rise and fall of Mechwarrior series.? Pretty please :)
The funny thing is that if battle pass style systems didn't have an expiration date, they'd be great because it would be something to chip away at. To prevent performance issues resulting from many passes being active at once, players could choose 1 to be active at a time.
It would still get good monetisation because people will pay to skip the grind and I'd actually start paying because I like buying things that don't come with a time limit.
The fact that this game pushed the boundaries of what a video game can be and it still can but rockstar doesn't do anything with it frustrates me. This game is the equivalent of being the middle child in the family that is incredibly smart and amazing but always gets shat on because they aren't the favorite child. The amount of work and dedication put in to create this game is mind boggling. About 500 million dollars were put into this game with 6 years of development just to be left in the dust only a year after is such a waste of time and money.
Honestly heartbreaking because they’ve proven that they can write a compelling, thoughtful, jam packed with life, completely cinematic and beautifully executed story.
the original RDO was one of the best online experiences of my ps3 era and I gave RDR the game of the generation award for my personal list. Next to that would've probably been games like Uncharted 2, GoW 3 and others. But there was something amazing about the full package RDR & RDO gave. An incredible and lengthy story mode, an amazing and very different online experience than anything else out there. Last but not least, great DLC/expansions like Undead Nightmare.
I recently started playing online and its a shame to see it hasn't had a major update in 9 months. A tragedy as its fun as hell.
All they needed to do was give people a reason to farm money, like a housing system with the most expensive houses costing up to 1 mil (yes, 1 mil!), and of course ways to customize said houses.
At least we have those sweet horse balls physics in RD Online.
Hello gvmers, could you make a video about the rise and fall of transformers games that started with wfc and ended with rise of the dark spark
Thank you! I wanted to love the online...sad to see how they gave up.
GTA Online represents everything wrong with gaming today. It's depressing.
How so? Its a free to play game
Masterpiece with so much potential
I tried rdr2 online for the first time this year, and immediately found many friendly players who would help me out in missions together and introducing me to the game - however, I quickly noticed just how expensive everything is in the game, cant afford horses, guns, and everything is locked behind gold bars, and the coolest cosmetics are only available if you pay with real money. This kinda discouraged me, having no goals to work towards to. I tried to follow the main story missions, which was kinda entertaining, but not interesting enough to keep me in
you have a great voice for this
Lol crazy because I miss all the outlaw passes & they final open the Halloween pass this month & I jumped on just to get everything. I hope they slowly make a comeback. This is a brilliant game even hoped for private session as well.
After seeing what rockstar did to red dead online I completely lost faith in the studio and i am not buying any other rockstar game
I remember i was in a gang with a few of my cousins, 7-8 man group. We sent a letter to rockstar with a huge list of demands, i mean HUGE. Talking actually ideas for camps, expanding gangs, expanding ways to make money and all, if anything we thought of the roles before it actually came out, but obviously had a better layout. L.I.T Gang was the gang name. Almost none of the demands we wanted were met /: some of them actually coincidentally made it into the game, but i wish out letter got noticed and made them realize people really wanted better for online from the beginning.
Letters dont make it to higher ups anymore. Only emails from specific people 😄
@@EinFelsbrocken it was an emailed letter.
This man has the voice of documentary guy. Keep up the great work! Having just found this video about RDO downfall I think I'll see what else ya got and sub because of it. Great job!
Sad how rdo became an actual western ghost town
The game that made me lose all respects for Rockstar, and hopes for GTA VI.
Excellent video. Bravo.
I would have loved to see the roleplay scene for this take off, it sucks that won't ever happen now
“We’re more ghosts than people.” - RDO players
What killed red dead online? Greed.
moneyyyyyy
I've owned RDR2 since release day and have beaten it upwards of a dozen times. Yet, I have not opened multiplayer a single time. I haven't even thought to open it and totally forgot it was even there until I heard about R* stopping updates for it. I'm mostly disappointed that they did not do a single thing with the single player campaign at all after release. No new content whatsoever. I was really looking forward to a potential Undead Nightmare 2 which never came. It's strange because the game felt like so much hard work, dedication and passion was put into it. Then after release it was entirely abandoned. So strange.
"...middling developer support made even the simplest of requests an impossibility." That about sums it up.
GTA and Red Dead online should be "free/fee to play" wholly separate products from the single-player games. There should also be single-player and online dedicated teams for both games (4 total) that strictly work on either single-player or online, never to pull anyone to the detriment of any project.
And I assume you have 10+ years of experience as a management position at a large AAA game studio to make your opinion valid?
awesome video as always, it was a rough start for sure.
loved the single player game, it was an incredible step forward for open world RPG's, most immersive game ive ever played.
Red dead online 2 is wonderful to play with friends, sure, it could have had a more balanced economy. But imo if you are focussed on that, you need some friends. Me and my friends just explored the world, RP'd our cowboys and fucking had a good time. some people are just miserable man. try be positive.
thanks - this channel saves me from hype, empty promises, and the slow death of a game
and introduces you to shoddy sponsors with exclusively false or exaggerated information
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