1:35th vs 1:32nd Scale Aircraft - Have Your Say!
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- čas přidán 21. 02. 2024
- An informal survey on 1/35th aircraft kits from the likes of Border Models, Bronco and others. What are your thoughts? Good? Bad? Don't care one way or the other? Let me know your opinions in the comments and let's get to the bottom of this madness!
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It used to annoy me that Airfix made aircraft in 1/72nd scale, but tanks and armoured vehicles in 1/76th. I understood that 1/76th is a British model railway scale (OO), but it still irked me. Now I am older and have a little more cash to spare, I've moved on to 1/16th scale armour. Now I'm annoyed that they don't fit with my 1/18th scale car collection! First World problems, eh?
Yes, I totally agree, and many thanks for injecting a little perspective. It's a topic that's beyond trivial compared to what a lot of folk are subjected to these days.
I have to agree - I am also a big fan of "constant scale" - certainly within genre of subject, and if possible in general. I do 1/48 for aircraft whenever possible, and have little choice but to go for 1/35 for armor since the options for 1/48 armor are so very very limited.
Another interesting collection of thoughts on this beloved hobby we all enjoy. Scales will never contain or satisfy our imaginations. Unfortunately space and dollars contain our stashes.But if we really think hard we can fit more kits somewhere! And more kits means more imaginative fun!! Keep going!
Not planes, but I loved Tamiya's 1:20 scale for Grand Prix cars. Not quote as huge as 1:18, but large(r) enough than 1:24 to do fine detailing.
I'm personally happy for the 1/35 scale on aircraft. They go nicely with my armor models if I ever decide to make a diorama, so far I've built the Skycrane and I'm finishing the Takom Apache, I'm really interested in the Stuka, the Zero and the Spitfire next.
Agreed, it was obviously done for making dioramas.
Quite a few people have mentioned the diorama potential, but I'm pretty sure the modellers who build dioramas are relatively few compared to the number who build kits as stand alone displays. So it doesn't make much sense to me that manufacturers would invest huge amounts of cash to satisfy a small minority who would give them a far smaller return on their investment.
And sure, helicopters have diorama potential with armour, but I doubt WWII fixed-wing aircraft had much, if any, interaction with AFVs, so again it makes little sense to me to have a naval aircraft that operated from a carrier in an armour scale. Many thanks for the comments.
Exactly! And building a diorama is not even absolutely necessary. What if I just want to put a car and an attack helicopter next to each other, just to see the size difference?
@@andrasi_gyula That's a good argument against 1/35th right there! There are loads of 1/32nd car kits out there, but hardly any in 1/35th.
I mostly build aircraft, and I haven't built an armoured model since I was 12 years old (and that was 1/48 as I remember!) so I have a fair number of 1/32 models and nothing in 1/35. I have no problem with the "divide" although I"m aware there is some crossover. I just wish there were more military miniatures available in 1/32 even though I understand why companies would cast their ground forces figures in 1/35.
Decades before the current 1/35 madness...
Dragon had this cool range of 1/35 special forces figures that I collected.
AND then they released a 1/35 helicopter pilot set!
Which sent me looking for any helicopter that could be used with them in a diorama.
It was extremely odd and rare.
I found all of their hughes 500 series and then surprisingly an academy 1/35 super cobra.
I didn't mind at the time since the kits seemed good and there was nothing else in 1/32
These days I haved vowed to never touch any of the new 1/35 since 1/32 is my large aircraft scale which I only have a small collection of.
Trawling the net, or reading up, somewhere I read that Tamiya decided to enter the AFV market and the Boss decided that the tooling would be standardised at 1:35. Because. And they were popular, so they stayed with it and others joined in.
So my kits are standardised like yours, 1:35 AFV and lorry, 1:48 WW1 biplane.
Nice to hear the origin of the scales, too. I always did wonder, why 1: 32, or 1:76?
Very interesting, thanks for that. I did wonder if Tamiya singlehandedly decided what the armour scale would be, they had the biggest catalogue of kits in that scale, even in the early '70s. Nice to have that much power!
Yes, Tamiya pioneered 1/35 armor. Since their kits quickly became the gold standard, everyone soon followed.
I must admit I’ve never really thought about it in that way ,,, I’ve built all sorts of scale aircraft , I just tend to buy what I like ,,,, but I kinda get your point
Don't really have any skin in the game since I don't build aircraft. But having said that, from an ocd point of view, keeping aircraft scale consistent at 1/32 makes a heck of a lot more sense to me. I'd be equally bewildered if they started coming out with 1/32 scale tanks!?
I celebrated when they first came up with helicopters in 1/35 scale...it happened over 30 years ago. Most helicopter modelers are also armor modelers.
Maybe, I'm not convinced. I still think more aircraft modellers build helicopters than armour modellers, at least the ones I know. Maybe more armour modellers build them now because they're in "their" scale! Many thanks for the comments.
1:32nd 👍
Ok, gonna try this again. Enjoy your work and love your sense of humor. To the point. I think that the 1/35 Kate has been put up there to go with their 1/35 Akagi flight deck. A Zero and some flight deck personnel are also supposed to be in the works. I’ve got Takom’s 1/72 scale Akagi. Interesting kit. Good fit, good detail. But some things they leave out cause me to scratch my head. Keep the videos coming, they brighten my day
Many thanks for the comments and I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. I really think they shot themselves in the foot making the Akagi deck in 1/35th. As another commenter noted, if they had done it in 1/32nd it would have opened it up to more sales from those who have the Tamiya Zero or the Infinity Models Val. The Kate too, in my opinion, would have sold far better if they had done it in 1/32nd.
Same as 00 vs. 1/72nd ...🤔 I built a Tamiya Skycrane in 1/100 (and a Roskopf Bell UH-1D in 1/100) nearly 40 years ago
I have yet to build 1/32 or 1/35 but probably will in the coming year and for a diorama I can see the logic behind 1/35 airplanes but non-issue atm.
I can see the logic of 1/35th helicopters as I mentioned in the video, but less so for fixed-wing aircraft. I doubt most of them came anywhere near a tank in their (often short-lived) careers. Many thanks for the feedback.
You're right about 1:35 being the "wrong" choice for aircraft, but in many cases it isn't because of 1:32. It's really just too large for most aircraft, especially that Skycrane. 1:48 is far more friendly to the shelf and the wallet. I would have bought that ICM CH-54 and the Takom or Meng AH-64s immediately had they been in 48th, and it seems there are more people like me complaining than there are people buying the 35th kits (along with Trumpeter there are now THREE new tool Apaches all competing for sales!). What's really baffling is how many companies don't leverage the huge investment in research, CAD, and marketing to produce multiple scales of any given subject. Or maybe there are just way too many modelers who are scale agnostic.
I can see why some subjects could be good in 1/35. It makes dioramas easier. If you want to have an aircraft being maintained or refuelled, you're more likely to find vehicles and figures in 1/35 than you are 1/32. In the case of the Skycrane, if you wanted to show it lifting something, the cargo will be available in the right scale. It depends on what you want the model for I suppose. It's nice to have options.
Quite a few people have mentioned they are happy to have aircraft in 1/35th simply because there are more figures and equipment available in that scale than 1/32nd. So maybe we should tell the manufacturers to put their efforts into more figures and support equipment instead of whole new kits? Surely it would be a cheaper option for manufacturers and consumers alike? Potential too for ICM to offer 1/32nd cargo kits to go with their Skycrane. Many thanks for the comments.
i think it’s maybe a brand loyalty ploy, i mean that kate model looks fantastic on the reviews, so much that i bought one, so mow i’m thinking about what other aircraft can i buy to put next to it, my options are: border models spitfire, border models stuka or more likely : the upcoming border models A6m2!!! nobody else is doing 1/35 scale aircraft so is a clever strategy in deed 😅
Well, you could be right. Perhaps they're thinking that we'll repurchase all the kits we've already bought in 1/32 and they'll rake in the bucks! It does look really nice, but I won't be buying one.
A 747...my favorite airliner...in 1/35?? Hold the phone I'm building a hanger now😂
For me, aircraft models will always be in 1/72, 1/48 or 1/32. So that's a big no to aircrafts in 1/35 (it's reserved for armor)
Absolutely! Thanks for the feedback.
If I wanted to make dioramas I would choose 1\48 scale. Tamiya makes armor and aircraft in that scale and would be able to fit in my display case.
A much better scale for dioramas, I agree. Even 1/72nd has a large selection of armour to choose from if space is even tighter. Many thanks for the comments.
Fantastic channel mate
Thank you! Very much appreciated.
I personally think that the coming together of the large scales makes sense. 1\24th shares with planes and cars. Wish I had room and cash for the 1\16th and 1\18th scales. We should be a little flexible considering how things were when we got into the hobby.
I agree, in principle, I just think it's a little late for that. There are probably thousands of kits just in 1/35th and 1/32nd alone, so it would probably take decades to undo the damage and amalgamate them into one standardized scale. And perhaps that's part of the plan; get us all to repurchase all the kits we've already bought in one scale or the other in a "new" scale! Many thanks for the comments.
I was just in a local hobby shop the other day and saw a bunch of different Tamiya military vehicles in 1/48th scale. As an aircraft guy, I didn’t know that was a thing. When did that start? Good match for airplanes. Does I torque the armor guys?
Tamiya's 1/48 vehicles have been around for about 10 years now, but not all shops stock them.
Yes, and I guess it's not quite as painful when the shoe's on the other foot - armour coming to the "good side" instead of aircraft going to the "dark side"! And I do build a fair amount of 1/72nd armour, though I still keep it away from the aircraft in case they start fighting.
Back in the 70s Bandai made armor kits in 1/48 and 1/24 scale. I purchased both scales and thought at the time that 1/35 scale was odd.
@@zulerodoeht329 Though not intending to offend our armor friends, I also have always thought that 1/35th scale was odd. As primarily an aircraft builder, I feel like the 1/35th standard actually discouraged me from branching out into armor, etc. This is especially frustrating because 1/35th and 1/32nd are so close. How many diorama scenarios have been discounted because of this? As Maxwell Smart (Don Adams) used to say, "missed it by that much".
No offense was taken. Just personally scale does not matter to me exect, needing more room for the large scale kits. Kepp on truckin.@@wkelly3053
My modeling is limited to 28mm vehicles for wargaming. However if the price was substantially different I might lean towards the cheaper one…? Just a thought
I build mostly aircraft in 1/72 or 1/48, and cars in 1/24 or 1/25, which are near enough the same. I avoid 1/32 aircraft for reasons of size but I'm constantly frustrated by Airfix producing cars that I'd love to build but they're in 1/32, and will not sit happily alongside 1/24 or 1/25. I've done a few armour dioramas with vehicles and figures in 1/35, but again, Airfix does these in 1/32. I don't think there's a solution unless all manufacturers change to 1/33.5, which might just be close enough to get away with when put next to 1/32 and 1/35.
I welcome the 1/35 aircraft because I like to build dioramas in 35th scale. Therefore it's nice to have a fair choice of aircraft in the same scale.
Border Models are developing a 1/35 B-17G. The Lancaster 1/32 was as we know the Wingnut Wings they rebranded. If future releases are consistent with the scale, 1/35 is good size for two, three and four engine WW2 airplanes. It will hopefully be an alternative to the inaccurate HKM 1/32 B-17 with the advantages of what is available for dioramas. I prefer 1/32 over 1/35. I pose most of my aircraft builds in flight on custom stands. Building 1/32 jet aircraft, F-4s, F15s but switching to 1/24 for WW2 fighters the last two years. Just finished a P-47D Razorback you may be interested in Andy. It is posted on my channel. The 1/18 scale was for the toy market such as Merit International. Hobby Boss 1/18 kits are the sprue parts from the molds of the Merit toy. I challenged myself to build the FW190 A5 and now would like to see more new tool kits in that scale for WW2 fighter aircraft.
Quite a few people have mentioned the diorama potential, especially regarding the dearth of 1/32nd figures and/or support equipment compared to 1/35th. Perhaps a better investment from the manufacturers then would have been to put their efforts and finances into 1/32 figures and equipment, rather than tooling up expensive new kits to satisfy the minority who want to incorporate aircraft into dioramas?
While I have no problem with releasing 1/35th kits of aircraft that are already plentiful in 1/32nd, when a unique kit like the Kate comes out that would probably be extremely well received by aircraft modellers (surely I'm not the only one that wants one to put next to my Tamiya 1/32nd Zero?!) it just makes no sense to me to put it in an armour scale, especially when the likelihood that the real thing ever came anywhere near armour was more than likely almost never!
As for the 4-engined bombers, well, they'll be pretty freakin' huge whether they're 35 times smaller than the real thing or 32 times smaller, so I'm not sure 1/35th has any advantage over 1/32nd in that respect. Many thanks for the comments.
I agree. There may be a day were we will not have this issue. The ability to reproduce a scale model fully or in kit form, at home in any scale we desire could become a common reality that replaces the existing format.@@warpedplastic
Absolutely. The 3D printing revolution is already changing the hobby in so many ways, who knows where it will take us in the future?
Finally had a chance to check out your P-47D (and I subscribed to your channel), absolutely superb! Your skills blow mine out of the water. One thing you mentioned in the description is making the panel lines shallower to be closer to scale. I'm curious how you did that?
Thanks Andy. I have agreed with all of your modelling technique assessments from previous videos so I believe we think alike and strive to achieve similar goals with our builds. The most common methods I use to shallow the rivet and recessed detail: 1/Material removal when creating stressed skin effects. 2/ A water based putty that is level to the surface will shrink into the recess to give a slight impression. 3/ Glazing spot putty that is softer than the plastic to modify. In the case of flush rivets a jewellers diamond setting tool to create the ring shape instead of a hole that a punch or typical rivet wheel tool would create. It was with the encouragement of UK model friends like Terry from Little History that I added to my channel recently. There was only the Moebius Jupiter 2 post before that. Learning video editing along with new equipment I hope to improve. Always happy to see a new video from Warped Plastic. I also think highly of Tom with his channel Max_Afterburner. You both share useful information, knowledge with some good humour. @@warpedplastic
When I was younger and making armour dioramas (1980’s) I wished for more aircraft in 1/35 particularly for figures accessories etc.
Now I don’t care either way. None of my aircraft at that scale will be displayed together.
Personally I think the extent of their market research stopped at finding the 8.5 % size difference and the dollars being saved on the plastic.
It will be marketed as being more environmentally conscious etc too.
Just my tuppence!
All the best,
Ian
Thanks Ian. It's a possibilty, though if they really want to save plastic they should have stuck with 1/144th! Many thanks for the comments.
@@warpedplastic No bother Sir!
Love you humour by the way 😁
I really don't care much about the scales of most kits, as long as I am happy with the kit. But as the saying goes, "variety is the spice of life". As a predominantly armor builder most of my kits are in 1/35 , (with 4 kits in the 1/16 scale) all my aircraft, which number under a dozen or so are mostly 1/72, with a 1/32 or two in there. Remember back in the 70s, there was a few 1/24 aircraft kits from Airfix. As a teen I used my first paycheck from JC Penny's to purchase the 1/24 Bandai Panther G. $50 back in the day was a lot of money. To me the new scale would go in a diorama, but "boy howdy" it would be a large diorama.
Nice stash. I wish mine was so neatly kept.
I think the 1/35 aircraft kits exist for one reason: people are gullible. Modelers as a whole are very much like Apple customers. Large numbers of consumers in each group absolutely MUST have the latest, because it's clearly the greatest. The kit manufacturers understand this and being in the business to make a profit, they build what sells.
I only build 1/72 for aircraft and 1/35 for military vehicles for reasons similar to your own. It makes for easy comparison, especially for guests in my home who aren't experts but still find my hobby interesting. I've had several very enjoyable conversations over my models. I shoulda' been a teacher. 😊
Regarding those older kits in unusual scales, they're collectively known as "box scale." As amazing as it may sound today, in the past model makers settled on certain size boxes and manufactured kits to fit them. It made for lower cost and neater appearing shelves in the hobby shops. Max of Max's Models has done a great job explaining this with the assistance of Mike Machat, aviation and model art expert extraordinaire.
Well put, and I couldn't agree more. Marketers and salespeople across every sector have spent decades convincing us we must have the latest thing - whether that be this year's shiny new vehicle, the latest tech gadget or a fur coat - and they're very good at it. All of us sheep are every company's dream 'cause we just keep buying stuff, whether we need it or not.
I've also heard the odd scales referred to as "fit-the-box" scale, though I believe both terms were applied retroactively, they didn't call them that back in the days when the kits were new.
Many thanks for the comments.
Mr. WP: Count me as a BFN (Big Fat Negative) on the 1/35 scale aircraft. That's simply preposterous‼️😉
Thank you. You and I are in agreeance and your response has been duly noted!
Personally, I really hate the 1/35th scale cash grab and new "shiny thing" aircraft models. My biggest gripe is that we will be very unlikely to see these in 1/32nd scale for those who like to pad their stash with some great big kits (like me for instance) as I am really a 1/72nd scale guy.
However, and to be fair I do feel the 1/35 helos will add a bit of spice and a change of pace for the armour guys, of which I am one on occasion. So if it works for the armour folks then I can live with it.
I was sorely tempted by Bronco's 1/35 Horsa glider sets, but was finally able to resist as the 1st Canadian Parachute Brigade didn't use gliders (it was close 'though) and I did buy the old Revell 1/35th "Mash" Bell 47 to go with a Canadian Korean war Sherman.
But as far as a 1/35th Japanese torpedo bomber or a Flying Fort, No sir, I don't like it!
What we really need is a 1/32 (C)F-101 VooDoo and a 1/32 F-5A and D. ;-P
I tend to make 1/35 armour, the 1/35 German planes are interesting to me for the potential of making diorama’s. If they made 1/32 armour, I’d happily make that. 1/72 is too small for my geriatric eyesight and sausage fingers now a days. I did find a 1/24 Kubelwagen to add to my 1/24 Stuka, but that was too big to show.
Quite a few people have mentioned the diorama potential, though I really don't think there was as much interaction between aircraft and armour, generally speaking, to warrant expensive new tool 1/35th aircaft for that purpose. Support vehicles (Jeeps, refuelling trucks, tow tractors, etc.) perhaps, but AFVs? Very little. Many thanks for the comments.
Seeing as how most of the kits I buy will never get built, I don't think it really makes much difference!
Lol You have a point there!
Wait, we’re supposed to to build this stuff too?
Novel, very novel.
@@cellardwellerproductions5125 Umm... build?? That's asking a bit much. 😄
I agree with you 100 percent I have a 1/32 scale revel Apache still in box and a takom 1/35 Apache late addition when displayed together they will look stupid 😡
Yes, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Many thanks for the comments.
I think that actually , we need both scales, as a few others have said 1/35 is great for dioramas, especially when it comes to finding figures and vehicles, 1/32 is really a scale for aircraft modellers, so we need both! I build all the things, 1/35 armour, 1/48, 1/72 and 1/32 aircraft. I don't mind that there is a scarcity of 1/32 aircraft models, i'm sure that someone smart with lots of money will eventually start up a model kit line called 'Scale 32' that only makes things in this scale at some point, then we can all rest easy!
I don't disagree with you, but for whatever reason(s), a choice was made decades ago that one scale was for armour and one was for aircraft, so if we are now looking to put both subjects in both scales then it will be very frustrating for those modellers that favour one subject more than the other when a subject they really want comes out in a scale they don't build in! Not such a big deal with Spitfires and Messerschmitts since both are plentiful in 1/32nd, but when something unique like the Kate appears in the "other" scale, it's very disappointing if you can't add it to a collection in the well established "aircraft" scale.
Several commenters have mentioned the diorama potential, especially regarding the dearth of 1/32nd figures and/or support equipment compared to 1/35th. Perhaps a better investment from the manufacturers then would have been to put their efforts and finances into 1/32 figures and equipment instead of entirely new (and expensive) kits? It's a bit like buying a new car simply because your car has a flat tire! Many thanks for the comments.
I grew up with 1/76 Airfix and Matchbox, found the shift to 1/72 for seemingly every other manufacture frustrating, (not least because i liked to tabletop wargame). Now i wargame in 15mm, just as most seem to switch to 28mm which is 1/56 and doesnt match the recent popularity of 1/48 ... But yeah, shows us more of your collection! :-)
I like the idea of single scales! I could never understand the reasons for all these different scales! Autos 1:25/1:24!!! , 1:32/1:35, it’s a pain!!🤔!
Totally agree, they should have picked a scale years ago and just gone with it! Many thanks for the comments.
I build armour in 1/35 but I have built a Monogram 1/32 armoured car. My first and last foray into armour at that scale. Aircraft are generally the usual scales and I am unlikely to buy and build a 1/35 aircraft but…I have retired and I am on a limited budget so price is a major factor to me and space in the house limits the scale I buy these days. More shelves needed! As an aside, I returned to the hobby eight years ago as an avowed armour modeller but I find myself surrounded by aircraft, built and in my stash. Current fad: WW1 aircraft. I have one WNW 1/32 AEG IV in the stash and a plethora of Gothas in 1/48 and 1/72 scale. Come back WNW!
Can't argue with you there! WWI aircraft have long been my favourite subject and it was a sad day when WNW closed its doors. And I can't afford to remortgage my house to buy one of their kits at "collector" prices now! Many thanks for the comments.
I don't build anything but 1/72 scale my self but if someone came out with a 1/75 Zero I would never build it, no matter how good it was.
I totally agree, and it's the same for 1/35th aircraft for me. The Border kits look fantastic, but I'm not going to buy any. Many thanks for the comments.
Looks like you’re filming it in a model shop !!!
Lol, well, to be fair, some of that actually is Thunderbird Models stock. Not very much, but some!
I wish it was in a shop 😂
@@RachelAndrews-to9xy 😐 awww...
Hi! I know that a lot of modellers hate pilots and figures in their kits!,but have you ever tried to get figures of any type for certain scales , especially 1:32, 1:72 pilot figures are like chicken teeth unless you want offerings of Airfix,which are the same as they have ever been since they first came to the market! Other makers have made a slight improvement,but they are still quite crude! I have always wanted to add a pilot just getting in (or out !) of his plane, but there is nothing around! Perhaps the makers think there is no market for them,or are they too complicated to make? Anyway that’s my feelings on the subject! Great video by the way👍!
Quite a few people have mentioned they are happy to have aircraft in 1/35th simply because there are more figures available in that scale than 1/32nd. So maybe we should tell them to put their efforts into more figures instead of whole new kits! Many thanks for the comments and glad you enjoyed the video.
Interesting debate.
Reading through the comments so far, as you mentioned, the opinions vary as much as the scales!
I build aircraft mainly, in all established aircraft-appropriate scales so the 1/35 aircraft releases don't appeal.
It"s a shame that all this is going on as some nice subjects are being released in 1/35, changing established scales like the current trend is going to basically offend everybody in one way or another due to availability of individual's preferred subject- or not as the case may be.
One question.....if armour modellers are so keen on replicating scenes depicting aircraft and AFVs why didn't the opposite take place and manufacturers change AFV kits to 1/32 to capitalise on the vast array of aircraft already available in that scale?
Another issue that may prove problematic is that aftermarket manufacturers have now got to comply with new 1/35 subjects...I'm sure they're really pleased about that!
i'm happy to let the 1/35th fraternity get on with whatever floats their boat, in any scale they please but feel a little frustrated to see interesting subjects released in 1/35 instead of 1/32.
If ICM continue to release both scales, as he case with the AH1, then everybody will be happy but it will of course cost them a fortune to tool two similar scales of the same subject.
I'll put a note in my diary to see how popular the 1/35 releases become in a year's time and whether any other manufacturers take up the option, i can't really see Eduard, Tamiya or Hasegawa going the same way.
Anyway, keep up the good work, your shows are just right!
You raise some good points, many thanks for the feedback. And I guess, as an aftermarket producer myself, I should be happy for the potential of yet another aircraft scale. But there is a neverending supply of new kits coming out in the established aircraft scales to keep me happy for a quite a while!
1:3, 1:4, 1:8, 1:9, 1:12, 1:16, 1:18, 1:24, 1:25, 1:28, 1:31, 1:32, 1:35, 1:48, 1:50, 1:52, 1:57, 1:60, 1:65, 1:72, 1:76, 1:76, 1:83, 1:87, 1:88, 1:96, 1:96, 1:106, 1:108, 1:110, 1:112, 1:120, 1:121, 1:142, 1:144, 1:150, 1:200, 1:220, 1:225, 1:241, 1:288, 1:300, 1:350, 1:390, 1:400, 1:426, 1:450, 1:500, 1:600, 1:670, 1:700, 1:720, 1:1200, 1:12300, 1:14500, 1:2700000, and these are just from this years Revell catalogue ... I say we should just boycott all the BS scales ...
I don't disagree with you, but it may be difficult to choose which the BS scales are as they are often in the eye of the beholder! Many thanks for the comments.
It seems to me the manufacturers cant win? ICM did the Cobra in 1/32 and everyone said "Why isn't it in 1/35" so they did both. I made a video comparing a 1/32 and 1/35 huey.. the difference is massive!! As you already know, the Kate has been scaled at 1/35 because that's a Border Model thing...and... it fits with their 1/35 Akagi island and deck. But this video has me thinking... why didnt they do the island and deck in 1/32 so we could use our Tamiya Zero's or the beautiful Infinity Val on the deck? You missed the 1/32 T-34 that was released a few years back????
That's a really good point, and I had forgotten about the Akagi island and deck kit. It would have made far more sense to make that in 1/32nd, especially if, as many commenters have said, they like 1/35th because of the diorama potential.
There was a 1/32nd T-34?! I missed that one.
Many thanks for the comments.
I am not really invested into this debate as I don't build 1/32nd scale planes. I like modern jets and in 32nd they are just too large and expensive for me. I however do like that you can get tanks and planes 1/72nd scale to compare the size.
It would be nice if there were fewer scales that are close to each other. It seems daft to me that car kits come in 1:24 and 1:25 (which is surprisingly significant when you have the same subject in both scales) especially when Revell, for example, sells both. I'd love to build some classic Formula 1 cars, but they are nearly all in 1:20 scale and I couldn't display then with my 1:24/5 cars. I also have some 1:32 vehicles, which are annoyingly inconsistent with 1:35 vehicles. It depends how you want to enjoy your models. If you are content to display armour and aircraft separately, it doesn't matter if you have 1:32 planes and 1:35 vehicles, figures and accessories. If you want to display the aircraft, vehicles and figures together, to give everything a sense of scale, or create a diorama, it is good that there is the opportunity to do this. I definitely don't see a problem with the Supermarine Spitfire coming in 1:35 scale, since it is also available in 1:32. If you don't want 1:35 aircraft, nobody is forcing you to buy them. If a particular subject is only available in the "wrong" scale, you either have to hold your nose and buy it anyway, or do without.
I totally agree with you about the cars, and it's something that keeps getting perpetuated with new releases in both scales every year. Generally speaking, Europe and Asia remain with 1/24th, whereas North America stick with 1/25th {this is the reason Revell has both scales in their catalogue as they release kits that have been produced by both Revell Germany and Revell USA).
Regarding the Spitfire et al, yeah, it's less of a deal since Spitfire and Luftwaffe kits are plentiful in 1/32nd. But producing a unique kit such as the Kate in an armour scale just makes no sense to me when every other manufacturer stays with 1/32 for aircraft. As I mentioned, I'm more than happy to keep my armour models separate from my aircraft models (and cars, ships, etc.), but in the case of the Kate, I'd have one oddball airplane sitting with the tanks when all the others are together in a different collection! So unless another company makes a 1/32 Kate, or Border sees fit to scale up to that size (as ICM has done with some of their helicopter kits), then yes, I guess I will have to do without. Many thanks for the comments.
Why didn't they just stick with 1/32, instead of splitting it up. Then everyone would be happy. Executive decisions suck sometimes. I personally would like my models to match, because I'm into a little of everything. Planes, tanks, helicopters, cars, etcetera.
Yep, have to agree with you there. They should have got it together decades ago.
With the number of new 1/35 airplane kits Border is putting out, there is clearly a market for them. Companies do not invest money unless there is money to be made.
Yep, as I mentioned in the video, tooling up a kit is a huge investment so not something they'd jump into lightly. I still think it's madness though! Many thanks for the comments.
For those of us who build card models, standard aircraft scales are 1/33 and 1/50, so there's that too.....
Oh geez, that's a whole other kettle of fish! 1/33 is at least a lot closer to 1/32nd than the armour scale. Many thanks for the feedback.
I want a 1/76 Spitfire😘
Lol Don't give them any ideas!
Too many differing scales for my liking
Whatever. My scale is 1/72 so I really don't care about anything else. If it sells - that's nice. Tamiya has 1:48 armor range in their catalogue and nobody is complaining
True, but everything in Tamiya's 1/48th armour range is available in 1/35th, and then some, so that's probably why no one is complaining. Many thanks for the comment.
I am certain the idea of 1/35 aircraft is aimed at diorama builders to have more subject matter. I honestly wish someone would have picked a scale, though.
I agree completely, if they had gone with 32nd or 35th decades ago we wouldn't have this situation now! Several commenters have mentioned the diorama thing, but I would think the number of people who build dioramas compared to the number who just build kits as stand alone displays would be relatively few, so it doesn't make much sense to me to tool up large and expensive kits to satisfy a small minority. Many thanks for the comments.
Having been a builder of 1/32 aircraft since 1967, why 1/35 aircraft? I rest my case Yourhonor....
Absolutely agree. Too late to start changing scales now. The manufacturers made our choices for us decades ago, no point trying to undo it now.
Meh, scale doesn’t matter. I usually stick to 1/48 or 1/72 aircraft. I worry more about the subject than scale. And thanks for the glimpse of your stash, now I have something to show my family that 2 dozen models is not out of this world. Speaking of scale…
Lol Happy to help! Thanks for the feedback.
A 1/35th scale 747 would be 7 feet long! 😂 … I don’t want one.
Lol Are you sure? You'd only have to add another room to display it in.
LOL
Nah, that goes right on the dining room table.
You show her who is the Boss.
Please try to think in the other person's shoes, like me. Are you a stand alone modeller, small or large diorama maker? Originally I focused on 1/72 cause it had the range of figures, tanks, vehicles (there were some makers) but going into larger scales had this sort of demarcation disput. I wished they had more figures and vehicles in 1/32 or more aircraft in 1/35 scale though there a range in 1/48. Yes I must be evil I want to do large dioramas with vehicles, figures and aircraft😅. The modern marketing is so that many look into these things and see competition. So they make items others make but in high demand or make something new. Like in a different scale but for armoured and diorama modellers I mite feel the same about the what if models but to each there own, I don't have buy it. So 1/32 is not under threat sorry something you wanted in 1/32 came out in1/35 but you could put it out there that there is a demand for the Skycrane in 1/32. I wonder what scale Revell had their Skycrane back in the 1970s. I like to see the Elvis version for water bombing since I'm in the RFS, we fight bushfires.
The problem is you can't please all the people all the time. There should have been a choice made decades ago to go with one scale or the other. But they didn't; 1/32nd became the "accepted" aircraft scale and 1/35th was for armour and it's really too late to change that now. I can understand armour modellers may be frustrated by helicopters coming out in 1/32nd, to have a naval aircraft coming out in the armour scale makes no sense whatsoever. Diorama builders are a small minority compared to those who build models as stand alone displays so to start a range of aircraft to cater to diorama builders seems an odd decision. Perhaps it would be better for manufacturers to put their money into creating more figures and equipment in 1/32nd for those who want to build dioramas.
I guess with a 3D printer you'll be able to make any scale you desire.
I suppose so, but I'd be hard pressed to fit even a small 1/32nd aircraft on my printer without breaking it down into tiny pieces! Many thanks for the comment.
I don't get it at all. In fact it boils my piss. No need. No need at all.
When we have a one world government we wont have this issue - so i guess we'll end up with whatever is most popular in China. 🙂
Lol you could be right.
It won't matter by that point: we won't be able to buy kits (or for that matter, food and shelter), as they will have already sent all our money to Zelenskyy. 😒
@@relic2860 lol