5 Scale Aircraft Modelling Myths
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- 5 things relating to scale model aircraft that may have alternative explanations, or just be downright wrong. Strangely coloured lights, black aircraft, impossible control surfaces, spinning engines, and more.
00:00 Intro
01:35 Green nav lights
02:39 Droopy ailerons
06:51 Black aircraft
11:03 Spinning engines
13:32 P-51 Flaps
14:53 Buh bye
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I recently came back to the hobby after an almost 40 year hiatus. The thing that gets me is the super prominent, dark panel lines. It looks good done in moderation, but many go overboard.
Absolutely agree with you there! In fact, I discuss this very subject in my "Painting & Weathering; Simple and Subtle" video. Many thanks for the comments.
I'm really blessed. My level of modelling is such that im more concerned with keeping paint off the table, not gluing my fingers to anything and not melting the canopy to worry about anything like accuracy. 😂 PS glad to hear you're feeling better.
Thank you! If you find a cure for gluing your fingers to anything please do let me know. I still haven't figured it out...!
Haha same here, after the final coat, I’m hesitant to do much weathering because I often make it look worse!
Here's one that's bugged me for years: this occurs on WW2 aircraft models with wing mounted armament - when modelers try to simulate gunpowder stains where the guns fire, this is often done to excess. I have seen little evidence for this in photos of actual aircraft, but it's quite prominent on many models.
That's a good one and I totally agree! Many thanks for the comments.
Agreed. There will be a lot more wear to the wing leading edges from flying than from firing the weapons. Pronounced muzzle soot really wasn't a thing until the rapid firing, fuselage-mounted cannon of the Cold War period. The F-100 was particularly dirty when the guns were fired.
Glad to hear you are feeling better, love the site.
Thank you! Not quite 100% but getting there. Glad you like the site.
Great info I look forward to seeing your future builds hope you are feeling better soon all the best from here in the UK and happy modeling my friend 👍😁
Thank you!
Great vid! Thanks for posting.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
as always, amusing, with good information.
Thank you!
Ive also heard the reason for P 51 flaps being down was so ground crew wouldnt step on them getting on the wing
Makes sense! Many thanks for the comments.
I remember the "blue navigation light" thingy in the Fujimi or Hasegawa instructions for the F-14. Could be where (mention no names!) got the idea?
Talking about ailerons working opposite to each other, there is a modeller carried this through to the tailplane control surfaces in a publication.
Hope you're feeling better soon. 👍
Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing blue nav light painting instructions in at least one Japanese kit. As for the ailerons, I even saw a B-17 model once that had both ailerons in the 'up' position! Many thanks for the comments.
From what I've seen, at least as far as the USN, actual blue lights came in to use at some point during 1940s and were termed "Section lights" with those lights placed on wing top out toward but not at each wing tip and one somewhere along top of fuselage. These were in addition to the regular selection of navigation lights. How long that practice endured is not in my memory right now, it might or might not have carried over in to the early jets.
@@scottfw7169 Some WWII Japanese aircraft used blue position lights on the upper wings too. They still had red and green nav lights though.
Just finished the Hasegawa FW 190 D9 in 1:32 scale. The instruction said abaout the navigation lights red and blue 😅. Of course i did them red and green.
Myth #6: British WWI aircraft were painted dark green.
They were painted in PC10, a mixture of lamp black and ochre. Black and yellow make dark yellow, not green. Also eyewitness account from a new officer, stating that the planes he saw were painted "a colour somewhat between coffee and chocolate". Assuming he was talking about the drinks, that would make them a shade of brown, too.
Good point and quite right. I have very early editions of Windsock Magazine and in one of them Ray Rimmell provided paint chips for a range of PC10 colours. Very much more in the brown range than green. Of course there were also aircraft painted in PC12 which was reddish -brown, and NIVO, a very dark green.
I go to the Imperial War Museum at Duxford several times a year and I often visit the SR 71 they have there as it's just an amazing aircraft. I can confirm that from personal observation a few feet away from it, it is black, or as you say, a very dark grey. Next time I go I'll inspect the nav lights on the F4 Phantom closely to see what colour they are. Watch this space 🌌.
It is an amazing aircraft, one of my favourites. Makes you wonder what's flying today that they're not telling us about! Many thanks for the comments.
First time I saw her at Duxford, I was surprised that she wasn't pure black, but more like a very dark gunship grey (to my eyes anyway)
I've heard a couple are still active.
The majority of the fleet have been mothballed. Maintenance is astronomical.
Still the fastest thing in the sky I understand.
I've been through Edwards several times over the years.
A spooky place. You actually feel like you are being watched.
@@jackdanielsisgoodjc It was a similar surprise to me when I first travelled with Cunard... You know, black hull, white superstructure.
The hull is actually a very dark slate grey.
Distance adds a certain 'je ne sais quoi', it appears.
@@jackdanielsisgoodjc I saw one in Kansas, and it was the color you described. I assumed it was black that had just faded.
Dear Mr Warped,
I quite enjoyed your presentation and trust that you are recovering uneventfully. I note that Kermit Weeks had something similar to say about P51 flaps in his extensive talk about his own P51D. It inclined me towards the thought that his point (and yours) would be correct.
I have subbed and will join you again in the future for further of your video whimsies.
Regards,
Z
Many thanks for the comments and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Interesting that Kermit Weeks had something similar to say. I wasn't aware of that.
Really cool.
Thank you, very much appreciated.
The TDR1 (U2) I saw at Fairford one year looked pretty black to me.
Sorry to hear you are unwell. Best wishes and get well soon.
Many thanks for the well-wishes. I'm getting there!
On the Zero the starboard navigation lens was blue, it had a yellow bulb that created a green light when lit.
Do you have a source for that? I've heard it before with other aircraft but from everything I've read on the subject, including copies of original wartime specifications, I believe this is also a myth. If it were true then the instructions in Tamiya's 1/32 A6M2 are wrong; they say to paint the starboard nav light in clear green. The Zero also has blue position lights on the top of the wings which would mean they too glow green when lit with the yellow incandescent bulbs of the time.
Was it the Buggus Nastilus?
Most excellent video young Padawan....👍🏻👌🏼👏🏻
Why, thankee kindly! It was indeed the dreaded Buggus Nastilus, and a particularly nastius version of it.
@@warpedplastic AKA The Dreaded Lurgy...
Shocked by the aileron goof.
You and me both!
As a WWII aircraft modeler, I see it ALOT in picture posts of grounded planes. I see why they did it, but yeah, doesn’t make sense with non-hydraulic controls.
Interesting. I don't do many aircraft models, but I'm always amused at some of the aircraft modellers with their rivet wheels. Aren't rivets on a plane protruding out? but the rivet wheel creates an inverted rivet.
Yep, some folk sure go mad with the rivet wheel! I guess if it makes them happy... 😵💫
The IJN cowlings were kinda blue. It would fade to a dark grey over time.
I haven't come across any information that definitively states the colour was a purposely mixed blue-black colour. I maintain it's far more likely it was just black, which would have been far easier and cheaper to produce.
@warpedplastic I've found a source on the topic. I'll post the link tomorrow.
@@runesvensson1244 I look forward to seeing that!
@@warpedplasticthen you haven’t looked hard enough. It’s a common fact that the anti glare paint used on Japanese aircraft were a dark blue black.
@@vmoney9106 Geez, you like playing the devil's advocate, don't you? 😄 Where exactly is this "common fact" stated? Everything I've read on the subject states that it simply isn't known for sure. To the best of my knowledge there are no existing Japanese paint specs from WWII that confirm it one way or the other.
Get well soon!
Thank you! I'm getting there...
Happy to hear that👍🏼
By the way, what aircraft do/did you fly?
That would be an interesting video😊
Thanks,
Ian
@@bugler75 I mostly flew a Cessna 150, I had a share in one in the UK. I also checked out in the C172 and did one flight in a Tiger Moth!
@@warpedplastic Very nice😊
I failed my medical for a PPL but it was for the best!
I’m sure the Tiger Moth was a fantastic experience too.
I take it from your accent that you may be Canadian? One of the greatest scale modelers was Jack McGillvary from Toronto who built and flew his models to unsurpassed levels. He was one of the Flying Aces greats. Beyond that he was a Wakefield Trophy finalist in 1959. Have you tried rubber flying scale?
Technically, I'm British. I was born there but grew up in Canada. I have quite a few stick and tissue models in my collection, though it's been a few years since I built one.
It’s the inner main landing gear doors of the P-51 that always hydraulically bleed down after engine shutdown.
That they do, but the flaps do as well.
The older I get the more my ailerons droop.
Lol I can relate! And I don't roll, pitch or yaw like I used to either.
Have you tried solid scale? You do not have to depend on "Kits" for that.
My dad was from the era of solid scale models, and in fact I have a book of 1/72nd scale 3-view drawings from the'40s that belonged to him. Never tried it myself, I have enough kits to build to last me several lifetimes!
How about a WW II A/c model with only 1 wing folded.
Good one! I've always found that to be rather odd. Many thanks for the comment.
If you look closely at British WW2 starboard navigation lights, the bulbs do definitely look more blue than green - when they are not lit. They usually had a yellow tungsten filament which glowed very yellow. When the yellow light shone through the "bluish" glass of the bulb, it turns green. Modern lights are more likely to be green anyway. Have a look at the lights on (say) a Hurricane or a Lancaster and you will see what I mean. So it's not "bull***t" really - just not right in every circumstance.
Interesting, thanks for bringing it up. Don't forget however that if we're talking about preserved examples, there's every chance the colour has changed over the years and become more blue than green. Period era colour photographs are even more unreliable. Many thanks for the comments.
@@warpedplastic I’ve had the opportunity to get up close to some airworthy Hurricanes over the years and the starboard lamp definitely looks blue to me. The trick is they glow green when the filament is switched on.
@@EricIrl And yet, wouldn't airworthy examples have modern bulbs in them which would glow white, not yellow? I'll have to pull out the walkaround pics I took of an airworthy Mk. IIc many years ago and see what colour lights it has. It's worth noting however that WWII RAF aircraft in general had clear covers and coloured bulbs, this is certainly true of the Lancaster and can be seen in photos of the Finnish Hurricane in unrestored condition. I've also seen a copy of an original 1944 US publication on Lamps and Lighting which specifies nav light covers are to be coloured red and green.
@@warpedplastic Yes, most British aircraft of that era had the bulb underneath a clear Perspex cover - although the Spitfire did not.
Colour blind have some issues with green/blue.
They can do, yes
Oh, you've got to do five myths of the flat earth for everyone, please.
In the Tamiya directions/instructions, they show blue lights in-broad on both wings. The P-40 has one on each side of the cockpit and on the wings.
These are formation lights.
The same is the standard in naval navigation.
Red, port, green starboard, as the pilot sits looking forward.
We could get into the greenish blue, blueish green debate
ad nauseam, but we got stuff to build, now.
AHH! THAT'S what the little glazed holes are, just behind the cockpit! Thank you.
Does that explain the unexplained tiny rectangles just inboard of the wingtips, or are those the running lights?
On which aircraft?
@@cellardwellerproductions5125 P-40B warhawk
Inbroad on the wing tops is the red/green lights. Both top and bottom.
The caps on the port side rear panel are for oil and fuel I believe.
They were placed on the fuselage side on later Hawks.
Priest's scoks are very very very very very black.
Lol You know, I almost put that in the video, but then I wasn't sure how many would get the Father Ted reference!
Having been in close proximity ( i.e., touching, and in the case if the SR-71, climbiñg around on), I aßure you, they are BLACK
Here I thought it was me. I just finished a Trumpeter Mig 3 and low and behold the ailerons could only be dropped. I guess the plane should have just learned how to flap its wings instead! Idiotic engineering at its finest.