Most Disappointing Model Kit of the Year: 1/32 Border Models Avro Lancaster
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Ergh!
My favourite kit on my wishlist and they have to engineer specifically for wheels down only (or if you're game, landing or takeoff "inflight") - what a disappointment - but not unexpected given that almost all "aircraft" (sic) kits are engineered this way today.
Here's my unboxing and you can hear the excitement dwindle and the disappointment rising towards the end.
I know its not for most of you, but this kit - while detailed brilliantly and above and beyond what you can get elsewhere - needs a lot of work for me!
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:39 The Unboxing
04:50 Sprue Tour
06:50 Wheels up in instructions
10:00 Full look at instructions
14:00 Clear parts fail
17:00 Wheel well door fail
19:50 Challenge accepted
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Surely the most disappointing thing is the ridiculous high price of this kit?
Here in NZ (it's spiritual home!) it's a ridiculous price too.
It's not disappointing. It's a limited release kit that will take months to complete. It's also massive. You can always stick to 72nd scale.
I got it for 25% off, with $20 shipping. but still quite expensive! Mind you I don't care that much about the price of kits these days, its the aftermarket/paint/weathering/tools that are expensive....but at the end of the day, this is a VERY CHEAP hobby, well for me at least...I use to ride BMW Motorbikes.....now that was expensive! Cheers, Chris
@@willthorson4543 i can build it complete in 2 -3 weeks. limited release doesn’t mean anything, It should be no more than $300 US not $600.
@@mrfish3915 you clearly have no idea about the economics behind this. As Will mentioned, this is a limited run. How much do you think the development and tooling of this kit cost? And how much do you think border model had to pay for tooling, production, packaging, etc...?
I understand you do not want to fork out the money they are sold for ( I don't either) but that doesn't mean it isn't correctly priced.
Now that I loved: the parts, the story, the excitement quite simply lovely?
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Lovely!!!
Bob
England
This is the much vaunted Wingnut Wings Lancaster. Wingnut Wings went out of business because of Covid, and Border Models bought the still unfinished molds, there was a few legal issues involved with this, which is why it took so long to release. It is the Holy Grail of kits from this manufacturer (Wingnut Wings), and if you can't deal with the fact that you can't display it on a stand, deal with it and don't build it. With such a big model, why would you want to display it wheels up? Build a small wall display stand and put it on the wall like the HK Models B-17.
I can only wish someone picks up the Handley Page molds that were in development. I'd buy one of them as well.
I hope someone else jumps in a buys the other Wingnut Wings molds and keeps reissuing them, although I feel they may be aluminum molds that have a limited life, which is why they only did limited runs.
I have this kit, I haven't built it yet, but it is certainly Wingnut Wings quality. Anyone who has build a Wingnut Wings kit knows what I mean. I spent US$600.00 on this. Worth every penny. If you can find it, buy it. It is limited release and will be up on Ebay for astronomical prices soon. Border Models are releasing a forward fuselage section kit coming in a few months for about 110 Euros.
Yes I know all about the history of this particular model, being a Wingnut Wings (and Peter Jackson) fan from wayback...
The nose section version will sell like hotcakes - and actually more likely to be built instead of this white whale.
As for your first comment, I build almost all my aircraft models inflight - including my big stuff. My 1/48 Mig-31 is huge, as is the 1/144 Antonov An 225, and I have many other large inflight aircraft that will be done, because TO ME, they are dead boring wheels down. I'd rather do car modelling...
It may end up like a wall display with a large picture of a German city getting bombed underneath, but I'd prefer to do a large banking display (with a Kotare 1/32 Spitfire and a Tamiya 1/32 Mosquito alongside).
Why would anybody want to build this thing wheels up? Worse, knowingly buying a kit designed “wheels down” and then complaining… The cracked canopy is a different issue. This is probably a kit released before it was fully ready but I’m sure it was still worth the money. Big kits are expensive.
Wingnut Wings came out of business because they cheated with government taxes. Covid is a pretext, man.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the Lancaster design!it performed over what it was ever designed for!
I have many lanc kits but no room for a big one. It's a beautiful kit! My complaint would be no clear options to show the interior.
Hi Jerry - me too, I much prefer it to the B-17, which is why my 1/48 HK B-17 is languishing in a corner, but I'm still building my Tamiya 1/48. I can see this kit being built by at least one modeller wheels down without the wing outer sections and without a side fuselage, just so you can show off that interior! Cheers Chris
It is strange they wouldn’t give you that option. Having said that it still is an impressive kit. Looking forward to seeing how you tackle closing the wheel bay doors
Its not that strange actually - all modern aircraft kits (with maybe Airfix as an outlier) dont include closed wheel wells as options. Hence why I normally don't buy them....But it will be done!
You know I've been building models since 1957 but in no way a pro. And I have quit putting in detail where it will not be seen I just build for
Me no one will ever see them . hats off to you that go that extra step.
Its funny because one of my options for displaying it means you'll never see the underside - in fact I could probably leave the doors off and insert the rods to hold it up through the wheel well doors! Glad to have you around Jody and always ready to hear your experiences from a half century of modelling! Cheers, Chris
It would bed fantastic if there was the option of having one half of the kit skin transparent, either with the kit, or from an outside supplier. Yes, it would cost a bomb, but it's a shame to cover up all that internal detail.
Very nice kit. Hate to know how much it cost. Looking forward to seeing you build it. Thanks for sharing. Happy days and model on! 😎🇨🇦
Thanks Peter, I got it for 25% off I think from HK, plus $20 shipping, and that was before the Aussie dollar collapsed, so wasn't that big a hit - still my most expensive model (with the WnW Felixstowe and Bandai PG Millennium Falcon close behind....)
I put some thought into the stand/mount design Chris. Not having the kit I cannot be specific but
will make a few points to consider. As stated in my last comment I am working on a1/350 Star Trek
Enterprise Refit kit. If you look into how the 9 ft. studio model was made, it required more than one mount,
not for adding structure but used so that it could be placed out of the camera view. Mounts not being used had the model part to cover.
I would make a internal support structure ie., aluminum plate that is roughly the length between the two inboard engines with one to as many as three ( port/starboard wing, bomb bay) mount locations.
The base would have a ball & socket. There is many online for cameras, speakers, tvs. Attached to that a 3/8'' (10mm) metal tube that the electrical wires can be plumbed and tall enough to allow a maximum of 45 degrees of pitch form level of the model. The top of the tube would have a small plate with two holes for bolting (6 or 8 mm) into the matching threaded holes on the internal mount
plate. A quick connect for the electrics from a internal harness that has one at each mount location.
Magnets or blue tack to hold the model parts to cover the unused mount(s).
If you visit my w/site again, there are examples (some new) that use small ball & socket mounts
that are adapted from motorcycles parts like mirrors and turn signals.
There are new 1/32 F4U-1D, F-4E, F15J and a 1/48 Monogram B1G images posted in flight as well.
Definitely going down that route John and I've been pouring over your site, trust me! Something of this heft needs a substantial base so I'm taking notes....
I agree. Aircraft model kits should have the option for in flight display. I build mostly 1/32 Tamiya,
two of each: F-4E, F-4EJ, F15J, F15EX (converted E) and all of the newer Tamiya, fab five. Also two ZM Skyraiders, two Trumpeter P-47s. All are paired to have one, wheels down the second posed in flight using a custom metal stand I design/fabricate that allows multiple positioning.
In my opinion, jet aircraft look the best in flight. WW2 piston powered aircraft, there is none more beautiful than the Mosquito in flight. Building the 1/32 Tamiya Mosquito in flight was not difficult. Requires modifying the landing gear if the wish is to have removable doors to view them stowed. The stand I made for it makes it possible to rotate the model to view the gun/bomb bay having removable doors/panels as well.
If interested my w/site has examples of my models at the bottom of the DESIGN page.
Chopperworks in Burlington, Ontario. I build custom motorcycles.
I have the fortune to live close to the Hamilton Warplane Museum. The second only flying Lancaster
often comes close and directly over our house in the summer.
Wow is all I can say John, what a fantastic site and output you have, love your metal stands as well! I've saved a few of your pictures and will put them on my Facebook page if you dont mind? I intend on putting my Lanc with my 1/32 Tamiya Mosquito and upcoming 1/32 Kotare Spitfire in a single display cabinet, all inflight and banking (and wired up for spinning motors if I can do it!) Cheers Chris
@@beckersmodels Thanks Chris. I believe you do a great job with topics
many modelers like myself are interested in and the reviews/builds.
The 1/32 Zouke Mura A-1 kits, 1/35 Italeri Elco PT and the 1/35 Moebius JII got me back into the hobby after thirty years.
Canada has only a few good model shops and I support two as much as possible.
For the PIGModel 1/1 scale L71 King Tiger shell and lots of Eduard PE I found/use
BNA Model World since add on accessories are limited with our shops.
I have three in the works 1/32 Tamiya kits to complete then I plan on more 1/24 scale projects. We are all hoping the Airfix Mk.IXc Spitfire will be successful. Would like to see Reedoak Resin do a pilot figure. If I get one or more I will do a
George Beurling and or Jerry Billings, whom I met at one of the airshows in Hamilton. He was flying Cliff Robertson's Spitfire.
I am also working on a 1/350 Polar Lights, Stat Trek Enterprise Refit using a TrekModeler Warp 8 light/sound kit, mask/paint guides PE upgrades.
The model is 36 inches long, so the custom stand I designed/fabricated uses a hidden ball & socket in the base, a tube to plumb the wires (like the JII stand ) allowing the model to pitch in any direction from level. You may want to consider this for the Lanc.
You are welcome to post pictures from my site.
I will have new images by the end of the week of another 1/32 Tamiya F-4E converted from a F-4C/D kit
using the spare, clear E nose from a F-4EJ kit and a donor Revell F-4G for late model slat wings parts and 'Speed', centerline tank. I do not use the Revell exhaust nozzles, it is better to modify the Tamiya (had spares) to increase the diameter for correcting the dimension.
Lastly. When we drove east to Toronto in the 1960-80s there was a Lancaster mounted on a large concrete
stand near the lake and The Exhibition Grounds. When I lived in Toronto in the early eighties I got a job at
The Toronto Historical Board that had the work of maintaining the Lanc until it was removed. The plane was being restored to static display last time I heard about it.
I mainly do in flight models myself, and a thing I hate is kits without crew or multiplace aircraft that come with just 1 or 2 figures.
From my experience, because they stand out from the airplane's interior, a well detailed flight crew figures can easily out-shine a multitude of all sort of cockpit/interior detailing/fiddly worrying over ejector pin marks, etc.
@@tomt373 and for fighters especially a pilot really fills the cockpit and is the centerpiece. The figure doesn't even have to be some amazing resin thing as long as it's better than the blob pilots you get in 80s kits. With a little work something like a modern airfix pilot can be painted up to a standard that even in an open canopy presentation it adds to the model, really wish airfix sold a bulk box of their 109 pilots for something like 10 pilots for $10-15 for when you're doing something that isnt serious enough to justify going all in for resin flight crew.
Or none at all. I think its borderline criminal that an aircraft model kit doesn't include a seated pilot....
@@beckersmodels agreed, finding out i need to spend another $10 or what ever on a resin pilot can sometimes be the thing that leads to a kit just sitting on the shelf indefinitely.
I bought the Hong Kong 1/32 Lancaster model kit it is massive ,still in the box and by all standards expensive but I was willing to pay because it was what I wanted, my skill level is not great so when I am ready I will tackle it and give it justice.
The HK kit is a solid kit, with only a few foibles and I've seen a few built up with or without extra detail and they look great - get into it sooner rather than later, trust me, you can do it!
So, what did you do about the cracked clear plastic?
Wheels down and flying... Simple model your Lanc on final approach returning after a missíon. Well reviewed.
Thanks Andy, but as I mentioned before I'm not interested in landing/takeoff depictions, I want to see her fully in flight! Cheers, Chris
Thank You for Being the One to Review this kit. WAS GOING to BUY IT....Oh HECK NO!!!
Clear Part need Their Own Small Box within the Other sprue box. Tamiya and Other Model makers do that to Avoid
Busted clear parts.
Not to mention BIG BUCKS to Buy the model and shipping to the states.
Detail in the model is wonderful but there is only So much you can put in and keep the fit and engineering of parts
good and "User" friendly.
Good Luck
Blessings
Mr. Killingsworth USA
No worries Darrell!
It's a 1:32 scale model of an aircraft which has a wingspan in excess of a hundred feet. You'd need one hell of a stand to display it flying.
Yep it will be substantial but worth it...probably 20mm acrylic rod ...
@@beckersmodels All the best with that. Would love to see the end result.
And yes I have a channel but I don't know how to do videos I guess I'm just old school at 72 years of age
I want this, my grandfather flew 64 ops in 156, 622 & 7th pathfinder force RNZAF.
Hello, mate, from Columbus, Ohio USA (round 500 km to the south of Canada's southernmost point in the middle of Lake Erie).
Yes, I prefer to build aircraft kits airborne, as well.
One must keep in mind three key factors whilst in flight: 1) the wings flex up a significant measure. One must offset the natural shape of the model and its internal support structure. I expect that inserting robust metal cross members will counter these, as well as offering better structural integrity critical to supporting such a big replica in a nonstandard manner.
2) For propeller powered aeroplanes, these must spin at relatively high speed; I understand that effecting this with polystyrene parts generally can lead to structural fatigue of the engine nacelle, requiring their replacement with metal parts. It is best for these to be as light as possible, to minimise wear of surrounding structures. However, will aluminium be sturdy enough to withstand the axial torque and the G-forces along the blades?
3) One obviously must motorise each engine. This will require wiring that leads unobtrusively to an outside power source (or alternately, high- density electric batteries readily amenable to prompt recharging).
4) the conventional support stand in the form of a post of some sort inserted ventrally to my expectation for accuracy is the most inelegant intrusion upon an aircraft display. I propose a concept, a process, and a device based upon them that I borrow from cinematic production, called the Chapman crane. This apparatus comprises a long, articulated boom, counter-weighted at its far end, that the users implement and place unobtrusively. It bears the subject of the film shoot in a manner that obscures it. For example, Hermione Granger (Emma Watson) riding upon her broom soaring high over the Scottish countryside. Her apparel and equipment block the camera's view of the crane.
In the case of the model, the supporting armature is out of sight of the viewer behind it. The sturdy internal structures to give the wings the increased dihedral necessary to represent flight also would facilitate the Chapman crane: its forwardmost extent one would insert into the replica's wingtip at the far side, plugging securely into a metal socket in the adjustment for correct in-flight dihedral. The entire internal arrangement would need to be amply sturdy enough to bear the model's weight without concern for laxness.
Additionally, one further would mask the rear portion of the crane from sight with a broad backdrop of bright azure to suggest the sky at 7,000 metres. The support would rest upon a wide base.
This arrangement also would facilitate passing the wiring from the motors to the power supply.
5) The next issue is closing the landing gear doors. At 19:27, you mention piano hinges, noting your concern about keeping them intact. I have heard of a photo-etched set that replicates them. (I cannot recall the maker.) These comprise the two halves of the hinges and a small length of fine brass wire that serves as the hing pin. As I never have seen this, except in photographs, so you would have to determine for yourself the suitability and applicability of this to your need.
Let me know of your assessment of my suggestions, please.
I consider all your points completely valid, I've been modelling aeroplanes since 1959, started with Airfix of course, simply for interest and pleasure, still do. I am most certainly not anywhere near the brilliance of what I see today, I'm just where I want to be. I must say that your first comment about the flexing of the airframe, particularly the wings, is a most important aspect of displaying an aircraft in flight, as I have enjoyed seeing that effect for 52 years of pax flying, both military and civilian aircraft, it's something that, I reckon, pretty much 99% of people seated in their window seat have no idea, or conception of as they dreamingly gaze at the clouds slowly going by.
In New Zealand the local shops want $1500 nzd for this kit so it is not only way over priced but it is what I would consider a unfinished prototype mould
That is considerably expensive, although I know things in UnZud are more expensive then here, we are catching up...I think it retails for over a grand here now...
I've got HK 1/32 Dambuster along with cockpit upgrade...iconicair bouncing bomb x 2 x2 tallboy conversions with special bulged Bombay doors...two different bomb trolleys...towing tractor...engine starter trolley two different main undercarriage wheels...decals galore brass undercarriage etc etc and probably never build it
Hi John, maybe there's truth to the saying that too much aftermarket is a bad thing? Maybe get the Border Models Nose kit when it comes out to build that as an inspiration? Cheers, Chris
So you are the only person I have ever heard call this kit rubbish. Won't even finish watching.
I wonder if WNW intended to include an extra In-Flight sprue that BM have left out. Unfortunately there probably won't be enough demand for an after-market kit.
Probably not, the chaps at Kotare dont intend to do the same with their Spitfire, and given this was their first retractable undercarriage kit, it was probably never on the radar. And no, there wont be any demand for an after market kit, but I will still press ahead in trying to make it myself!
My experience with the "open doors problem" is that after meticulously cutting the doors from the nacelles, they don't @#$%&^g fit together in the closed position! I'm nearly 60yo, so this experience is with older kits. This *New Tool* kit has been 3D modeled and engineered by HK. If the modeler prepared the 3D model with accuracy in mind, the doors *should* fit when cut-n-closed. If not, the kit IS a fail from the manufacturing to the final build.
Doh! Not a good experience at all hey? I'm likely to go the 3D printed route and completely rebuild them, or use the open doors for my HK 1/32 Lanc which I'll be bashing together with leftover Border parts for a cutaway.
But yes, its the bane of my modelling existence - not being able to properly close doors on modern aircraft kits - the worst culprit? Tamiya believe it or not on their new tool 1/48 stuff....cheers Chris
I'll be buying it for sure, I might build it, might keep as an investment, some of the WnW kits are going for crazy money
I hoarded some WnW kits for a time but realised I'd rather have kits in my stash I want to build, so I only have a Felixstowe, W29 and W12 - all seaplanes of course.
I agree.
thanks Eric
Wheels up or down, I don't care....I enjoy your builds and videos either way!
That being said, I do see where you're coming from and....how difficult can it be, right!? 😳😲🤨🤔🤜🏻🤛🏻🍻
Thanks mate, appreciate it! Cheers, Chris
Chris, how about building it with the weight off wheels but with the gear down, rigged for just after take off or on landing?
No thanks. The Lanc looks right in the air....not landing/takeoff. I do intend on doing a couple F-14's on the catapult, the MV-22 on the deck (but with rotors spinning) and both the F-35B and AV-8B Harrier in the hover wheels down, but I can't think of doing anything else in other poses....not my style! Cheers, Chris
This thing reminds me of a Wingnut Wings Gotha bomber, its' price closing in on $1,000.00 and so elaborate it becomes a "shelf queen" for a non-builder/collector's stash.
To make matters worse, in looking at detailed photos of the kits seats, they have the seat belts MOLDED ON, standing out from the seat, to where of you want to fit a crew member, you would have to take the time to cut and grind them off of the seats so the figures can be settled into their furniture instead of rising up from them.
As far as size, the 1/72 kits are large enough to challenge your display area, and fit with the Airfix Bomber Resupply Sets.
Removing the molded seat belts is something I've had to do plenty of times, especially when trying to get aftermarket resin ejection seats, like on my Trumpeter A-6A, so not that big of an issue, but annoying nonetheless.
And display area is less of an issue if you bank the wings!
No you have a option for empty seat
WOW
Good to see someone not brainwashed with this bloody thing! Honest true reviews is what we need! Knowing border model's so well build armour since they started out there bloody awful for fitment they work to hard on getting the detail looking good to the actual fitments of the kits I think! Same with this new stug full interior that is finally ready and will be shipped out for Xmas! What a surprise they claimed they had to hold it back to inaccuracies needing fixing fair enough but will we need a shed of filler to go with it! The new Luchs kit was ridiculous that was such a disaster after waiting for it so long aswell!
Ive got the Border Models Stuka, and Nigel reckons its top dog, but I'm not so sure....might need to throw it together to see.
It really boggles my mind when companies do stuff like they did with the clear parts in this kit. I just checked the price on this kit, and it's going for $620 USD and up. If a person is going to spend that much on a kit, another even $20 extra added to the box price so they could have put those parts in their own protective box wasn't gong to keep people from buying this kit.
😮😫😱😡 $620 US!?? If I spend over $50 US on any model the issues had better be to a tiny minimum and easily fixed. Of course to each their own but I can’t bring myself to spend that kind of money on a model. 👎
Yep it was a big oversight, but they are replacing all the broken clear parts with new sprues, just have to wait! Cheers Chris
Sorry the 99.9 percent of us who model with wheels down find your wheels up comments irrelevant. Background info is that Wingnut models were still in development with this kit when they ceased trading. Border models bought the molds and didn't bother finishing off the development and released the kit unfinished at a much higher price. Originally Wingnut we're going to release this kit for less than $500.
They'll probably replace the canopy spure like other companies do hopefully!
Already sent it a request, hopefully I'll get a response!
Mr Becker,how is the comparison between this big bird to hk model's?Which company is better?
HK is definitely far behind in terms of external and internal detail, and accuracy - there's problems with the HK canopy and air intakes on the engines, plus lots of little things. It does provide wheels up options though!
Build it as its coming in for a landing
No thanks. The Lanc looks right in the air....not landing/takeoff. I do intend on doing a couple F-14's on the catapult, the MV-22 on the deck (but with rotors spinning) and both the F-35B and AV-8B Harrier in the hover wheels down, but I can't think of doing anything else in other poses....not my style! Cheers, Chris
What shot me down was the Price tag ..but for that you can buy a pile of other kits.
Although kits are getting more and more expensive these days....
Penny is beautiful❤️❤️❤️
I’ve bought vehicles cheaper than what this thing cost,not to say this is absurdly expensive or those were bad cars,this just has ALL the plastic and the price reflects that,I’d love to have one but it’s not in my “budget”
You’re not alone in that sentiment! Of course there will be some who buy this kit but I think the majority of this production run is going to be nothing but a dust collecting shelf sitter.
@@phayzyre1052 yeah and I suspect a few of the people are gonna buy it and realize it’s out of their league and too much and make a mess with it too
@@Swellington_ Oh most definitely; I’m sure that will be the case with some!
@@phayzyre1052 Yep its definitely going to be a shelf sitter, just like the majority of Wingnut wings kits....I reckon the number of Felixstowes actually constructed relative to total made is less than 5%....
@@beckersmodels Just adding to your comment my friend 3-D printer technology has advanced light years within the last decade and the people that are printing their own parts are growing in numbers every day. Therefore if these model companies want to even stay alive they might want to stop and take notice of what’s going on! Time and time again I’ve experienced it and have seen others spend money on some pricey kit only to have to buy pricey correction sets, arduously rework it or in some cases flat give up on it all together all because of ill fitting parts. Good resin printers are a “one and done” cost and although I haven’t bought one yet I know several people who have and are printing their own model parts.
Along with this many model companies are not listening to their customers! Case in point: I know I have contacted Eduard a few times with suggestions and usually all I got was some curt snarky reply If that’s how it’s going to be then fine, I’ll find another means. Anyway, sorry to rant and soapbox the topic but, just my two cents.
The reason it costs so much is that border had to redo am the directions and build it themselves and only a specific number of kits will be available. This was a wingnut wings kit that didn't come with instructions. So the list price while high is justified. If you don't want it? Get HKs version. Half price of this but not remotely as nice. As to wheels up or down? The vast majority of kits come with no crew, especially the bombers and the vast majority have the aircraft on the ground. 1st world problems. Lol
Yep 1st world problems, but unlike North Korea, I can complain! Thanks Will
Hi Chris, **Bugger**. So I guess the first use of the 3D printer new doors or would it be possible to use them to create a buck and pull a vac form set?
Bugger me! Probably not first use of the 3D - I need to get a hang on that first with some more simple stuff - but let's see where this goes....
I only build them hanging from the ceiling too, i have tanks on my tables instead, but i hate the glass and the expensive of it too.............. if you hang them from the ceiling you don't want interior detail, it's above your head.
How the hell did you resist the urge to open the box when it arrived lol, 2 months under your desk?!
Heh heh - I find that if I open a kit box, I'll want to build it straight away...hence why I have over 30 work in progress kits...
if I choose scale 1/32 planes,I choose Tamiya,it's zero fighter,spitfire, mosquito.are all well moulded,detail and ofcourse reasonable prices.
Totally agree Tony - I have the full brace of Tamiya 1/32, having built their spitfires and mustangs, I wish all kits were of that standard. Might do a video review on them one day explaining why...
My clear part came in a separate box inside the box and I must say mine was nicely packet it looks yours was opened and not put back with care.
Yeah I got one of the early releases, I've contacted the supplier and hopefully new clear parts are forthcoming....
Hardly any kits that aren't like that (inflight or grounded)
I always build my models wheels down…but I can’t understand why they would make a one-piece part like that where the doors are already open. Mind-blowingly stupid.
That is a pet peeve of mine, why are instructions always under everything? One of the first things you look at are the instructions, and with how stuffed many boxes are good luck getting everything in again...
True true!
Good dog!
Shes the best dog!
Thats really disappointing Chris about the clear parts and no wheels up for such a pricy kit . I think its over priced . I would want the wheels to retract for this sort of coin . Like some of the old school 1/72 bomber 1970's Airfix kits used to do. I notice you can buy the HK version for a third of the price in AUS plus the undercarriage doors are not moulded into the engine housing so wheels up maybe easier to do on the HK version plus there is a dam buster version as well . Something border hasn't offered yet.
Yes apparently the 1/48 HK has it designed for wheels up in the instructions. I'm a bit wary of 1/48 HK offerings, Im not having any fun with their 1/48 B-17 for instance....
And yes I'd love if kits had retractable or exchangeable landing gear - for instance all the Bandai and Fine Molds Star Wars kits in 1/72 and other scales have this feature....
Well bit of a bollocks there Chris. Jody Blackwell had a good idea build as coming in for a landing, That way you keep the doors, and bend the struts. AUSGEZEICHNET followed by KAPUTT, is the German combo your looking for. You might build it as a diorama with a Tallboy or scratch built dam buster bomb getting ready to be loaded. The detail is insane, Do you have a technique to polish out the scratches in the clear parts? You might take a few clear parts from your spares and try toothpaste, or Carnuba Paste car was. Maybe with the Dremel polish pad. There is also a new clear coat they put on new car finishes , it is expensive in a small bottle and the old stand by clear floor wax. ( WD 40), might work.
I'm looking for a Lancaster kit that is made with radial engines. RAF had 300 made, it would be a good combo with the Merlin engines. But nobody makes one. Oh, the decal roundrels are huge, practically put on a real one. If you make it in flying condition you're definitely going to need a few crew. Last post I mentioned Penny chasing Wombats, ya better check, she could have caught one :-) Good luck when you start this Goliath. Forgot, maybe wait for your 3D printer, Cheers for now.
Airfix makes that Lanc with radial engines in 1/72 scale, IIRC? Penny is chasing our chickens right now as Im typing! Cheers, Chris
@@beckersmodels Chris, thanks so much for the info on the Lancaster and bless you because it's Airfix :-) I'll be checking it out as soon as possible. That and a Merlin version will be great sided by side - even better in formation right? " Free range chickens" and Penny sound like a tough situation to manage. Unless you have an evening coop . Still if she gets the Rooster mad it'd be a tough match. Thanks so much for the Lanc reference. Cheers your mate in the Pacific Northwest USA.
Score and bend should work?
I'm hoping Paul - the piano hinge detail might have to go, I'm also hoping the doors fit flush next to each other....eeeppp
@@beckersmodels At least the whole area ends up being painted black!
No doubt the aftermarket will come to your recue
I reckon aftermarket (aka Eduard) will be all about "improving" the interior, and not much else, although I am very thankful that ZLPLA/Tori Factory are doing a full figure set! Cheers Chris
If they traded off gear-up option for improved gear-down model, they made the right choice. Making a gear-up model from a gear-down kit is infinitely easier than going the other way around. That said, alternate nacelles would not have been all that hard to i9nclude.
I disagree about easiness - its actually easier to convert TO wheels down from wheels up. Paul Budzik recommends that manufacturers should mold the fuselage/wing pieces with closed wheel well doors, but with cutoff marks on the inside, so you just cut out the hole, trim it up, install the wheel bay piece and add the doors/landing gears.
You can offer those parts (including other things like interiors, engine bays etc) as a separate kit for the more advanced modeller....
if you have time, Check out Nigels Modelling Bench channel. He is doing a deep dive into this model and i mean DEEP. 28 hour long parts so far and is only just getting near ready for final paint. Border had sent him a pre production model to build and comment on.
I have been trying to watch his series Derek, hes a great modeller although in a different "category" to me, if you know what I mean (I absolutely love Tamiya/Bandai type "assembly" kits and prefer to spend time on painting/weathering/making something a bit different).
Its just hard to digest so much information about the build - its so comprehensive, I really want him to make an after action report thats concise and hits all the highs and lows with the kit. I may do the same myself when I eventually get around to ti! Thanks again, cheers Chris
Why does the shipping carton at 1.55 have a label informing us inside is a Lancaster B Mk11 but the Model box, at 2.20, says it is a Lancaster B Mk 1/111 ??? Wrong shipping acrton perhaps ???
Not sure - quality control problems?
Having completed my Border Lancaster I agree that it is a little disappointing that there are fewer options, but in my opinion what is present is still well worth the sticker price. I prefer to hang my models up in action type scenes but I simply accepted that this would not be possible with this one, it would require too much cutting. I instead replicated the scene on the box in the form of a diorama. The way I saw it you can only build one option and the lack of options is only a problem if you don't choose the one they prescribe. Should you have to be this pragmatic on a 600 USD model? Not really but what's the alternative? Enjoy the build! ... be careful with the bomb bay doors... if you build it as per the instructions they are impossible to fit and they require pretty significant cutting and scratch building to be made to work.
Great comment Michael, yes Ive heard from a couple people that the bomb bay doors could be problematic, something to dive deeper into next time...cheers Chris
The kit has several options, early & late ? though what pisses me off is the fuselage has windows, so building a late Lanc' is all wrong.
Those weighted wheels aren't weighted, they're flat.
Indeed they dont look right at all...
Well I guess your ‘wheels up’ will require surgery or if demand is there, wait for aftermarket solution or 3D print your covers. Given the complex nature and price of the kit, you would have been right to assume it was an option in the box. Good luck. Thanks for your video.
Thanks Cos, yeah I'll probably go for my own solution, theres literally only one wheels up aftermarket solution across all of modelling IIRC, for the Tamiya F-14 nose gear bays...so its not in high demand!
for cost there should have been an gears up option, heck even Revell has a gear up option for their A-380 and B-747, the AirFix Lancaster has it. shame on Border. This does bring up an interesting point fully interiors are great but only for those who demand absolute accuracy...Companies are missing good market for less detailed versions. I would pay for a 1/32 Lancaster but without all the interior detail that no one would see.
Its a real interesting discussion and I agree with Paul Budzik that aircraft model manufacturers need to go back to basics and present a "basic" version of a kit, without any interior (apart from what can be seen under clear parts) or engines or even undercarriage, with no open panels, with a flight stand built in. Then, create an "expert" second kit with extra sprues, with full interior details, landing gear, engines, guns, etc etc, that the modeller has to cut open parts to add them in as required.
They would actually sell more of the basic kits because it will be a much lower price!
I don't think it's the most disappointing kit of the year, or maybe it is for you. The cracked clear parts would annoy me no end, but that kit is exciting and the only reason why I didn't line up to get one is I don't have the room. As for the wheels down only option, well that is not a total disaster and this why. You have in flight wheels, why not do it just after taking off (when she still looks pretty) or do a returning home display with an engine out, bit of battle damage so you get to see one, or part of the engine, feathered props and the bomb bay open? You can get some in motion props from prop blur for either option. Do it right and you have a cracker of a display piece. Not the idea you originally had but might be easier than a full modification of those under wheel details.
A landing or take off scene is a compromise - I want to do mine either steeply banking or an overhead display (vertical on a wall) on a bombing run.
don't get me wrong, its a very exciting kit! Im still going to make the interior and the exterior stress skin effects are fantastic - there are now figures available for it - a full crew in fact - so its all looking good - I'm really nit picking what is actually not there in almost every single aircraft kit that comes to the market - no wheeels up! Cheers Chris
@@beckersmodels yeah I get the compromise bit, I was spit balling ideas mostly because you could sense the table flip vibes through the screen. Will the build of this one appear here or will that be over on Patreon, or will you keep it for your own mental down time?
15:23 Thanks for the review. I don’t think I’ll buy the kit because of your discovery of cracked clear parts. It looks like a typical made in China crap without good quality control.
Its coming down in price everywhere, I recently saw one go for $600AUD....but yes, the quality control is nowhere near Wingnut Wing standards...
Nice click bait 😂 This model is certainly not the most disappointing kit there is. But except from your damaged glass sprue (will you ever get that replaced by BM?) and the fixed wheel doors, there’s more dissatisfaction ahead. If only you would have watched some building footage from for example Nigel’s modeling bench.. Better try and sell off this kit and build the new 1/48 Airfix Anson..
Guilty as charged. I havent watched ALL of Nigel's videos, but I thought him buying a second kit was not a bad sign? I must watch some more of them closely....cheers Chris
The old Tamiya kit up to now is the only one woth the correct canopy dimensions in their 32nd kit! HKs it to low on top looks good but not accurate
Except that the Tamiya kit is 1/48 scale and has numerous errors.
Yeah I'm not too concerned about accuracies, unless they're really out of whack, I'm still building my Tamiya Lancaster and its old school Tamiya but still fun and looks to be about the right shape. There's definitely a gap here for a shrunk version of this kit in 1/48 scale...if Tamiya stick to 1/48 like they seem to be, they could knock it out of the park with a new version...
OK it's ex wingnuts moulds but it's Bordor model's who's put the thing together amd there machines seem to be off a mil or 2 that's a fact with fitments with the armour kits! Gotta be something not right in the production area somewhere! The Bf109 people had alotnof bother with I've got the stuka that was OK nothing special tbh!
There's a big gap between developing molds and a finished product, thats for sure. I'm waiting patiently for my 1/32 Kotare Spitfire - now that will be a stellar kit!
Alright Chris, I can sense your disappointment. I hope that once you have some time to think around the problem, it will change to positive, 'Right, we can do this...' problem-solvers' modellers' type of energy and you get a kick out of it in the end. I was about to type a suggestion 'Have you thought about doing....' but I stopped myself - you'll have thought of it already. Good luck with your planning and execution of this monster.
You're exactly right Alex, I am already in problem solving mode here - I mean at the end of the day its not the worst that can happen, even if I have to scratch build new doors, its a minor part of the kit that wont be seen by many. I think the biggest challenge is how to suspend it in-flight! Cheers Chris
Hi Chris.
I have taken pictures of the custom stand for the ST Enterprise Refit. Images show the components
and assembled. If you wish, email me (address is on my w/site) and I will explain/send images.
It may help with your ideas for your project.
Great John - I'll hit you up shortly, I'm really interested in how you engineered this as it looks like it will help me tremendously, thanks again!
Beware the Tori Factory crew set. I got it in 1/48th for my HKLanc and in my opinion they are undersized and look to small in cockpit. They also have no parachute harnesses at all, just Mae West vest on so not accurate for in flight crew in my opinion.
Eeepp...dont say that! Ergh! Might have to borrow some more Mosquito 1/32 Tamiya crew and modify...
@@beckersmodels exactly what i was thinking mate. See if you can some Tamiya spit pilots as well.
Border Models, your kit of the Avro Lancaster RAF Heavy Bomber is remediable. I suspect that it is a matter of it trying to be all things to all modellers.
Perhaps, although the truth is most aircraft modellers will do it wheels down, because thats the way the hobby has turned...
@@beckersmodels , thanks.
I was just thinking about your interest in building plane models airborne. An eastern European chap calling himself "Ivan the Terrible" has a unique trick for his aircraft models: he places them closely alongside a large printout of a dramatic sky, securing his replica with sturdy pins. This is not quite how I would have it, but it gives one a glimpse of my idea--sufficient for me to see that I am on the right track. I thought you might like to have a look for yourself.
Below is the text to my comment on another of his displays (a Hasegawa 1:48th- scale kit of the Mitsubishi A6M3 Zeke Japanese Navy fighter):
Overall, excellent! Yours is the best smoke simulated with cotton I have seen! The lighting expertly creates the bright illusion of fire, too.
As for the transparent disk in lieu of the propeller, from my own recent experience (I readily concede that am no expert!), no, it does not work; only motorising the model, as well as supplanting the prop with a sturdier metal replacement (the torque of the rotation over time can warp the polystyrene blades out of place) would be visually convincing. Your technique for mounting the model "airborne" obviating a visible stand-- this is expressly why I have come to examine your work--also would enable one to mask from view the electrical leads of the LEDs, motor, etc.
That is a shame. I love my planes in flight as well.
I don't really understand why manufacturers keep on doing this?
Especially like a bird this big? Where are you going to put it? On the dinner table?
It's much more suitable for hanging of the ceiling, or being mounted on a wall.
I hope you could get a replacement for the cracked canopy. I tried to reach out to Border Models twice via email for replacement parts for my Tiger I, but I am still waiting for a reply for almost half a year now.
The HK 1/32 B-17s and I believe the Lanc have wall mounts underneath, and I would consider displaying my Lanc the same way, with a big print of a German city underneath at night for instance. However, I am considering a very steep banking pose inside a large display cabinet alongside a 1/32 Mosquito.....hmmm
@@beckersmodels Mr. Becker, your model will have a wingspan of about 1 metre. For the banking illusion to be remotely credible, the lowest wingtip ought to be at least half a metre above the horizontal display surface. A 30º bank will put the upper wingtip a further half a metre above the lower, the whole thing towering to a monstrous minimal height of 1 metre, and supported aloft by a (say) 75 cm long rod which will have to withstand a tremendous stress. The anchoring point inside the fuselage will have to put up with a slanted structure, making all the hefty internal bracing that you will need all the more difficult and fatigue-prone. I would really deplore to know that, one night at 2pm, you were startled from your sleep in the dog´s kennel (to which your wife will deport you) by the brutal booming sound of your fancy behemoth crashing down, falling from its preposterous stand! And, worst of all, the divorce lawsuit will leave you little time, and cash, to try and repair the whole monster. Unfortunately, the insanity of buying that leviathan cannot be prevented, but with God´s help I might still be in time to dissuade you from your "a plane ain´t no car" madness!
LOL - you really have no idea how much fun I have laughing at your comments - the first half of which is all true, but all solvable - I just made a 1/32 F-14 in a very similar size and it stands about 700mm high.
Its still standing....
I've been working on these sorts of projects for years and a 1 meter high Lancaster, towering over your parked cars below will likely be the biggest I've done.
My wife supports my endeavours and passions and only encourages me not to reply to you and other naysayers. But they drive me forward.
Thankyou again - keep it coming!
@@javiergilvidal1558
@@beckersmodels The Tomcat´s widest wingspan is 2/3 that of a Lanc. This behemoth is MUCH bulkier than the slim Tomcat. Dunno exactly about the weight, but the appropriate "Hobby Link Japan" page states 6280g (though I´ve seen 8100 elsewhere). Substracting paper/cardboard and sprue weight, I don´t think I´ll be too far off if I say that the completed model will weigh in at about 5kg (I can bet the F-14 is FAR lighter than that). You say structural problems with your stand are "solvable". I guess they are, after all you claim to have "solved" the problem of finding a wife who´s prepared to put up with your (fake) "in flight" mania, but I can see massive trouble ahead building a reasonably slender arm leading into a rasonably sturdy anchorage which is able to hold the beast at a reasonable height with a nice banking angle. Difficulties will skyrocket if you demand (as I think you should) that the stand be easily removable and replaceable without forfeiting strength, .... and then the static propellers bogey will be waiting for you at the end of your voluntarily and masochistically chosen "via dolorosa" . Your Tomcat can strain to fool observers into believing it´s "flying" (it can´t, really, but OK, let´pretend it can), but a monster Lanc "banking" with still propellers will be the wettest of wet blankets. "No problem", I can hear your omnipotence delusions squawk: "I´ll fix FOUR little motors inside the nacelles, and the wiring will run, ever so discreetly, up along the transparent rod ... ah, no, wait, the cables will then be visible, rather inside the steel tube, that´s it, the steel tube, a nice smooth shiny strong steel tube holding the beast aloft, and of course the model will be removable without compromising either strength or electrical continuity, which will be restored, nice and easy, the minute I replace the beast onto its perch, it´s all solvable, you see? it´s all solvable, IT´S ALL SOLVABLE, IT´S ..... HA, HA, HA, HA ...." Don´t worry about the medics, they are professional, they will put up with your loud hysterical laughter as they shoe-horn you into the straitjacket .... In the meantime, your all-understanding wife, and even the dog, have run away. Maybe, just maybe, you´re a dangerous guy!
Good luck with your project, but I won´t be holding my breath waiting for its completion.
I bought 2 kits.. and Yepp. It is disappointing for the price of 600€. Clear parts are horrible, a lot of damages due to the weight, sinkmarks here and there, some deformations. Seems like the plastic is not good, it’s too soft for that kit.
Its a shame since this should be a winner winner chicken dinner. I'm the process of getting the clear parts replaced. Cheers Chris
The size and price of this kit is way too much for me. Good thing they're releasing a nose version like HK did.
Yes the nose version will sell tremendously well, although it should be bundled with some crew figures too!
It might be disappointing for you. But as a professional model builders perspective. This is an awesome kit. The HK version is the one you should be disappointed in.
Not sure how to take that comment....why is the HK disappointing? Because of accuracy problems or lack of raised detail? I'm happy with the fact its engineered to do wheels up if I want to....
@beckersmodels The biggest problem with the HK model is that the whole nose section is too fat and not as narrow at the front as it should be. The canopy is also to fat and squatty. Not to mention, the pilot seat floor is too high. The gun turrets are missing details internally. See Nigels Workbench for a complete comparison between the two models. To make the Border Models Lancaster gear up is very easy to do. It only takes about 2 hrs to fix this.
@@michaelkoff4823 Yes I've watched Nigel's builds and assessment of these kits and agree with the accuracy/shape problems.
How did you convert to wheels up for the Border Lanc? I'm assuming a slight cut or scribe of the open wheel doors and then move them inwards? That seems to be the simplest solution without losing the detail.
@beckersmodels Yes, that is the only way to do that. My other solution would be to design a new closed gear section completely in a CAD program and resin print the entire section. But myself, I dont have the time to do that.
While I would dearly love this kit I will never get it. 1. The price. I couldn't justify spending that much on a kit. 2. It's way beyond my skill level. 3. Where the hell would I display it.
I'll stick with my HK 48th scale Land.
All 3 major problems to be solved let alone my own worries about wheels up! Thanks for the comment Mark, hope you're well, cheers Chris
Also the most expensive
There's still some Model Hiro stuff that is more expensive, but this is getting up there!
Hello. My wife says I can't have one Regards Mark
Hopefully you got a free one like nigel seems to get?🙄
Jman
Ha! No way - only a free set of clear parts and that was only due to the local distributor being extremely helpful - Border Models are tragically and woefully bad at that...
@@beckersmodels tamiyas customer service blows as well!🙄
Jman
If the landing gear and cracked clear parts make this the "Most Disappointing Model Kit of the year", you've set a pretty low bar.
LOL! You should see where I really set it...
I'm building the BM kit at the moment, the most disappointing parts in the kit has to be the clear parts.....Truly awful they are and very brittle.
Not good to hear Ian, but I hope you are enjoying the kit overall?
@@beckersmodels I'm enjoying it slightly! 😇 The full bomb bay is built up & painted - Entire cockpit & nose built up & painted - Undercarriage/wheels inner wings built up & painted - Rear fuselage is complete, both the upper & lower covers fit on 'very' precise' to the fuselage.......Working on the front turret now which is very complicated and is doing my head in, so many bits 🧐🧐🧐
One thing which is pretty well pointless in this kit is the wheel options! 'Flying' 'Bulged'.......Why bother with the unweighted versions ? Not like you can easily chop up the undercarriage and have the wheels/undercarriage just being folded is it....Beyond most model builders that, there should have been a treaded tyre option on the main wheels.
@@beckersmodels I'm at that stage that I'm decalling the model, another major let down with this model......The wing roundels are the wrong shade of blue & red, the red is bright, which is wrong - Fuselage roundels also poorly printed in the wrong colours and also THEY ARE TOO BIG, on one side it overlaps the bomb bay edge - The fin flashes are also the wrong colour red & blue.
Kitsworld have a 1/32nd set but the fuselage roundels are also still TOO BIG, they've just copied the BM decals...... At the moment I'm having correct sized roundels & correct colours made.
Well, should you be interested, I'll trade you my HK 1/32 Lancaster for your Border models kit. I don't mind the wheels down on my kit.
Thanks but no thanks Mike - I do have a couple 1/32 HK kits but I still think this one is better overall than their offering! Cheers Chris
@@beckersmodels Hey, worth a shot. Lol
As I probably won’t be ever able to afford this kit I can be honest with you all about it and your reaction to your disappointment, obviously Border/wing nut have put considerable effort into the kit, hence the hefty price tag, and to get it to market they obviously decided to go with the on the ground option only, but they probably knew that some people would be disappointed with that decision and would accept the criticism, however they might well have been in a financial position that made getting this kit to market a financial imperative, especially given that the cost of living in many countries going so high they wanted to get the sales figures before only the rich people can afford it. The issue with the clear parts is very disappointing, they looked very good until you showed the transit damage, and I don’t think they could argue about it, it is going to cost them for their lax/poor judgment in the packaging. I realise that you haven’t done a full review yet but from what I have seen here, and on another channel, I would be over the moon to have the kit, but I would not have the room to even contemplate building it in the first place and secondly I could live with the on ground only option, to have it in flight though would be my preferred choice but again I wouldn’t have the room to display it to its best effect. I think that anyone who can afford to buy this kit or be lucky enough to receive it as a gift should count themselves very lucky and just enjoy the build, after all that is what it is all about, the enjoyment and challenge of the build, no matter how accurate or inaccurate, perfection or how you are happy with the finish, it is the build that we all enjoy most, or am I wrong?.
Great comment Allan, yes we should be lucky to have these things at our disposal - first world problems am I right? Cheers Chris
Sorry not worth 600.00 dollars to me ill pass
Jody, so true, I've never thought of getting a mortgage or small loan on a model. You're right, good idea on coming in for a landing, I mentioned to Chris to check your post hope ya didn't mind.. there is a kit of just the nose, I might take a look at that but it's pretty expensive too.
No worries I don't mind if you share what I post in comments
@@jodyblackwell9012 Thanks Jody, I meant to say " kit" of nose :-) I built a 1/48 B24 many many years ago for my dad when Monogram first brought them out. That was huge for me then, took a big plexiglass display case. I haven't tried anything bigger since, these new ginormous kits are full of more detail than I can imagine not sure I'd want to tackle that size just for the build time alone. That's why I mention the nose kit, it's a possibility to see what it would be like. Cheers for now.
Try $650.00 from a major "discount" seller, but unlike the rest of their inventory, not offering any sort of mark-down for this kit in particular.
For my point of view, if you can afford the kit and want it that bad have at it. enjoy. BUT I myself will never pay that much for any kit. For that price I would expect way more PE, no molded in wire details. different gauge wire should be supplied in box and added. At that price the wheels should be able to fold up and doors close. Wheres the lights and sound. I myself for some time have seen kit prices going up and up and up. Yes over all the hobby is still some what affordable. I am 53 and been modelling since I was 8 yrs old. I dont need them to over detail the hell out of them. Adding the details and scratch building is the best part. I dont think this is the right direction for the hobby. You would be surprised with a few tools what can be made from tin, brass, wood, plastics and more with a little imagination and thought. Even the most boring kit can be turned into a museum piece. This is far more satisfyingly than a kit like this. Much like the Deagostini kits, whats the point. Its already done for you. May as well be a snap together. I realize that Im probably among a very small percentage that model like this any more. I did buy the HK kit because I like big scale models for the one reason that you can add that much more details. I will scrap alot of the parts, modify alot of parts and scratch build my own. But thats what I like doing. Sorry but if everyone keeps asking for these high detail plastic, the kits will continue to get more expensive and the hobby will shrink and suffer for it again.
The price ya suxs most ppl won't she'll put that kinda $$$$ I like the kit but not for 600$ not even 200$
I dont care that much about price (hell I just dropped $200 plus on another 1/16 kit) but yeah this is on the nose a bit!
A scratch on a window? No problem. Just make advantage of the situation. In real they could easily have broken or scratched windows. So i dont see a problem with that.
It's not ONE window, it's about four or five last time ilooked, plus a cracked one. It's up to the modeller to choose what option he wants to show, not substandard molding from Border Model.
I see…hmm well that’s not good indeed
The amount of flash on this kit is a bit.. annoying. You'd think there wouldn't be considering their other fantastic kits.
Really? I'll have to take a closer look once I get the parts out for my crew thats coming soon. Yes, the other Border stuff doesnt seem to have much or any flash for sure.
@@beckersmodels yeah, Andy’s Hobby Headquarters did a video review of it and when he went close up a lot of the tiny parts had some flash which would be annoying to remove on such a small item. One of the wheels had it too, same with the instrument panel shown in your video actually. It’s not a lot of flash and can be cleaned up rather easily but for there to be flash on a kit this complex and expensive is kinda shocking lol. Anyway great video! Look forward to the GWH Build :)
Hong Kong models half the price better detail and options
Not sure the external detail is better though, but there are some better options...
Just show it in flight with the wheels down.
Yeah, no.
Looks ungainly and not the pose I'm after at all.....may as well be on the ground with all the other cars.
Really dude?😏
You'd think for the hard earned paid for such a kit...the options would be in abundance...such a shame for such a kit...not to mention the cracked clear parts...that's a travesty right there in itself...they're one of the focal points of ANY model...shame Border...shame.
However...the above said...still looks a finely detailed model...and at 1:32...huge bloody big thing 😳😳😳😳 looking forward to seeing further progress 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Yeah they definitely stuffed up on the clear parts - the second batch of these kits has a slightly bigger box with better protected parts apparently.
This is an expensive kit。not my tea
I just had to have it - im not that fussed about price anymore, its still a cheap hobby!
Sorry but the vast majority of the modelling community build wheels down so your comments are really irrelevant. The only real concern apart from price (originally going to be released by Wingnut at less than $500) is the consistently cracked canopy.
You're talking about the car model community. I model aircraft.
But yes I've had no success in getting my clear parts replaced....Border Models have ignored all attempts at communicating
C’mon everyone knows the only reason the review is titled the way it is is to get clicks.
You wont believe the tricks some CZcamsrs go too to get you to watch their videos. It might even surprise you too - like, comment, subscribe!
Oh and the kit has disappointed even further since I made the video - go watch part two...
Stupid enough to buy this, very poor design and fit is terrible. Horrible
Its hard to find a suitably well described build series on either YT (Nigel is great, but far too long!) or any build forums of the Border Lanc. I know one chap is building three at once, but he's not up to the assembly stage.
Ive just purchased a HKM 3 in 1 Lancaster so I will attempt at kitbashing both kits together to get the result I want....
Aircraft are designed to FLY. That is their element. For myself, despite the ridiculas details some master modelers put into say a sleek, sexy F-14 model...if it's sitting on the ground with every door, hatch, pilotless cockpit open....all the appeal of the beautiful shape goes away. What? she's down for extended maintenance? A broken jet? I WILL NOT buy the newer released kits without 1, a pilot figure, and 2, the ability to build it as in flight. I do build prop driven aircraft wheels down...mostly because no one has molded a decent looking spinning prop disk yet. Wish somebody would!!! How about a 1/48 B-47 and a C-119. Those would be GREAT!!!
lol wait a minute...
does this mean you have a big box filled with nothing but landing gear? :P
Yep - its VERY big. Like 40L container I think - but I do use them all the time for my scifi greeblies....
@@beckersmodels lol!
Can you not do it either Landing or taking off,it will still be in flight is.but with the undercarriage down
Hi Charlie, as I explained in other comments, thats almost the same as being wheels down, I want to see this banking in the air...cheers Chris
@@beckersmodels the beauty about working for Avro at woodford in the early 90's we always got to see the BBMF Lancaster,and I have seen it do circuits and bumps with the gear down,takes off does a climbing bank way and comes back to land.so you could technically do it climbing and banking with the gear down,or,if you find you camt fully close the doors you could do a partial retraction