r/Relationships My Wife Cheated on Our 10 Year Anniversary
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:10 Cheater
5:41 Divorce
11:02 Gifted in the bedroom
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The receptionist DEFINITELY figured out what was going on in the first story. That seems like way too perfect of a coincidence.
The receptionist was more loyal than his wife 💀
Honestly the receptionist being so aware is why this feels like Quid Pro Quo to me. Like her job would be on the line reporting a higher up for this, but OP doesn't work there, he's the husband. A hurt party that can burn all the bridges, and is taken very seriously. Yuppie culture through and through
yea I got a strong feeling she knew about the cheat and she either feel sorry for OP or she hate OP wife so this was her get back at her
Right? Pretty sure we all caught the THEY haven’t gone to lunch yet. Granted she’s working with a team and it sounds like the offices are past some doors. So the receptionist has plausible deniability 💯 while also cluing OP in to his wife’s behavior.
wasted effort - op's cuck instinct kicked in and he accepted the role of a cleanup guy😂
I just hope he apologized to his wife and her bf for the unannounced visit...
False allegations of SA-ing the daughter are inexcusable. She needs to be harshly punished for that!
OP needs to be absolutely sure that his lawyer goes to get the arrest voided from his record. Not just that they released and dropped charges, but that they strike it as if it never happened.
She'd most likely get away due to temporary insanity defense. She was overworked at the time, half asleep, probably stressed as hell.
Doesn’t excuse her actions, but I'd bet she could easily get that dropped
@@kagomagica Even so I hope OP takes further legal actions against her. I mean, if those cameras weren't there then she would have destroyed OP's life, insanity or not there has to be some punishment for that kind of defamation
She won’t be.
@@gtc9966^
Accusations that can be demonstrably proven false like this should be treated as a crime. That woman could have gotten him killed in prison and she deserves to go there.
What's even worse is that even though he was proven innocent by the film footage, if word got around that she had accused him people would take her side even though there's film footage. He could lose his job, his friends, his family... if that ever got out
It's only illegal if she filed a police report or a lawsuit.
In that case, it IS illegal, although the punishment isn't really strong enough IMO. It's not really one of those crimes that you do accidentally.
However, in this case, the wife deserves something that laws shouldn't deal out and CZcams won't let me post 👀
@@Nerobyrneshe called the cops that is filling a police report
@@kylesemrau2218 technically no, that's just "calling the cops", which is only a misdemeanor if done without a good reason.
I'd probably ask a lawyer for help if I was the husband.
Honestly, the police department should've filed charges against her for misuse of their resources, which could've given her some jail time and knocked some sense into her.
Story 2: Everyone, including OP's family and the wife's family is wrong. There's no way to "sort this out". Imagine if there isn't a camera to proof you innocent, she could've gotten OP arrested over something he didn't do. If my wife can so easily accuse me of sexually assaulting my own kid, I am out of that marriage and noone can tell me otherwise. The reason the other people couldn't give a reason why she did it is because it never happened to them, and they didn't know how it feels for your significant other to accuse you of something so heinous. Get the f*ck out, you and your baby deserves better.
Curious that this time you're not making excuses.
Don't forget the fact that OP would've spent the rest of his life on a certain fucking list
Not to mention at least OP is NOT on a country like Spain or Argentina, where because of the purple m4f14 that footage wouldn't matter and HE would 've been guilty because SHE said so.
Exactly this. There is no coming back from that.
He has to protect that baby from crazy!
The receptionist was the real mvp of that first story, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing😂
wasted effort - op's cuck instinct kicked in and he accepted the role of a cleanup guy😂
I just hope he apologized to his wife and her bf for the unannounced visit
I came here to say just that. “Why don’t you bring them back yourself? 😃 “
The diaper change story reminds me of something toxic I once heard in high school. "The world's worst mother is still better than the world's best father".
I hate to think there are people who actually believe this.
😬 Yikes, that sounds like something an abusive mother would say to justify her actions
Its where most of them will say the child needs the mother even if she's the most horrible thing of doing abuse. Not to mention where they put father's in a bad light from many of the news of father's cheating, abusing, leaving, and whatever else. Even though the mother can do the same thing. Quite the hypocrisy
Our courts, in many states, basically believe this. Mother is default awarded custody with like 6 days a month to the father.
The father has to prove the mother to basically be a drug addict before he would win custody.
@@tailsofchaos when my parents were getting divorced, my father filed for full custody and my mother said yes because she never wanted me in the first place. She wanted a girl and I was born a boy. I was three at the time.
However, my father was killed before the divorce was final and this was 1970. So instead of going to someone like my father's mother, the courts ordered me to go to my mother. She spent the next two years trying to turn me into a daughter. This was 1970-1972, not today. She finally gave up and I went to my paternal grandmother who gave me a good childhood. I never saw my mother again. NO, the world's worse mother is NOT better than even the average father.
@@clarky23 I can't even say sorry you went through that because that is not enough to say. No words I can describe your ex mother except soulless. Just the fact she was trying to turn you into a daughter, she did not deserve to be called a mother
Story 2: THAT CAMERA SAVED OP!!!! That wife is batshit insane for thinking that immediately, and then the family/friends siding with the wife are also disgusting
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLariosLet's spin the situation around. What if you, the wife in this situation, had to defend yourself from a husband undergoing a psychotic episode (also happens) that wasn't his fault, would you still stay with him? Despite being aware that he's a threat to your life as well as the life of the baby?
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLariosall due respect, but it doesn't matter. She literally could have ended his life if not for that camera. Either figuratively or literally. It doesn't matter why she did it, the fact that she did it means it's not safe for him or baby anymore. Let her work it out on her own, but she is an immediate threat to the lives of her child and husband. In the state she is in she's dangerous.
Do you even fathom how easily she could have literally ended his life with that kind of accusation? Even by the accusation alone?
You run, not walk away from her and never look back.
I hope she gets the help she needs, but she's proven too dangerous to have a family on the weight of they accusation alone. Never mind getting him arrested.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLariosnot relevant. *Excerpt from the Cleveland Clinic. :* Who does postpartum psychosis affect?
Postpartum psychosis can affect anyone who recently gave birth. While it usually happens within several days of giving birth, it can happen up to six weeks after.
Story 1: it's not OPs fault if the wife cheats. He's putting the blame on himself. He really shouldn't. I hope he finds whatever he's looking for.
he found what he's looking for - cuckold beta male provider and emotional support.
And the wife got what she wanted, stability in home and Chad&Tyrone in the work/hotels. Win-Win
I mean, he took the time to self-assess and reached the same conclusion. It says good things about him, really. I hope he got his answers and got out.
@@BeeWhistlerwell considering he said he wanted to fix the marriage I don’t think so. I knew he has low self esteem when he started saying his wife was too good for him
@@locusxe1411 it's still possible that he left or will leave in the end, I've heard this line before from some OPs and most did leave in the end, so hopefully he will or did.
He’s being weak by wanting to stay with her. She’s a cheating piece of shit and deserves nothing good in life, much less a loving husband
Story 2: dude your wife is unhinged i don't blame you for divorcing her also to those saying you should "work it out with her" they're delusional enablers.
At first I was thinking she's mad because she woke up, didn't see the baby, and panicked. Then the cops part came. What the damn hell. She's nuts. There is no coming back from an accusation like that. OP is very lucky there's a camera in the room. He could still be in jail labeled a kiddie fiddler. He could be in actual danger because of it.
@@BDM276She has a lover and wanted the father out of the Pic. When she woke up she became first scared because the child was gone and then mad because he took it.
Then on her anger she thought to just take the opportunity.
The fact she didn't check the cameras and called the police...
Seriously. Some things aren't fixable.
@@Schwiegermutter God forbid, but say that your child was SA- ed and you caught your husband doing it, would you first check the cam only coz he is your husband? That is not a smart choice.
Glad that op wants to fight for sole custody too because I don't put it past the crazy ex to hurt his daughter in an attempt to... well whatever the hell she's trying to do!
The "they've not gone out for lunch yet" is EVERYTHING.
"They." The receptionist knew what was going on, else she'd likely have said "she."
Story 2: The thing everyone is missing is that he didn’t get released, until they checked the camera.
… meaning that until that point she had been MAINTAINING her lie. This wasn’t a lapse in judgment, this was a break in cohesion.
*_Thank you!_*
@@Wendy_O._Koopa right? It makes the whole situation even worse. Because regardless of the reasoning, he can’t trust her to snap out of it and tell the truth, because *she didn’t.*
That’s the part that makes this truly unforgivable. If it was a mental health crisis, mistake, or a dream, regardless of what it actually was: she never meaningfully questioned it, and went STRAIGHT for the nuclear option.
This is such a dangerous situation, that anyone who can’t understand the gravity of this needs to be cut off as well. Because if they’re trying to enable it now, then can you seriously risking them ganging up on you the next time she does this?
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios It would have been DAYS before they saw that footage, SHE HAD TIME TO SNAP OUT OF IT, this was a conscious choice at that point and was under her control. AND SHE STILL BELIEVES SHE DID NOTHING WRONG.
@@black1917 do you know what psychosis is??? Because people experiencing it, don’t just snap out of it. Like you can look up stories of women who suffered with it killing their children during an episode. If it was something they could snap out of, that would not happen. Yes the children need to be taken away or supervised with her during treatment, but postpartum psychosis is usually temporary
Story 2: the fact that wife accused her husband of something that ludicrous is bad, but their families saying Op is in the wrong for literally divorcing a crazy person is worse.
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLariosdon't post the same comment in every single comment thread. Even if you have a point, it's still spamming.
OK, then she needs to see a doctor for an actual diagnosis. Then she needs to apologize. Even still the husband may or will not want to be around her for lack of trust that she won't do it again. The child also needs a safe home. If she is suffering from psychosis it would not be safe for the child either. The big thing here is as mentioned in the story- SHE IS NOT APOLOGIZING. she feels no remorse for her actions, she wants a free pass. @@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios Do you copy paste much, really, the wife is evil even if she had ppp she should never be left alone with the child again, and the hunsband should run away from her with his child. That guys life could have been destroyed, And that is if this was not all her plot all along.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLariosyou can do your copy and paste as much as you like but honestly, no OP divorcing is perfectly fine. If her hormones got *that* bad then for his safety he needs to stay away from her.
Story 2: I wonder if the wife has postpartum psychosis and that's why she attacked him. Either way, she needs major help
That's my thoughts
Same. Immediately thought that or brain tumor. Doesn’t excuse it but still. Christ alive.
I was thinking the same thing. But the only thing that seems off is that the baby is already 6 months and there have been any signs of it before now. So not sure if there have been other instances, that have happened, that maybe OP hasn't noticed or thought much of.
@@amberlindsey7112 To my understanding, things like postpartum depression and psychosis can pop up months after giving birth, though it is less common after three months or so. I also wonder if she's been showing other signs that went under the radar.
@@amberlindsey7112 When PPD escalates to that level, it can be unnoticed. Some women are quite stoic by nature and hide their struggles. And the father balancing a job and a newborn child might miss any subtle clues. For all we know, she may have been having breakdowns in her car, away from view. She might have been staying up at night posting insane rants to Facebook... not all types of crazy are immediately apparent, and many types of crazy are actively hidden from those closest to the person.
I do think this is the most likely explanation, but that only affirms she is a risk to the child (and OP), so sad as it may be, she needs to be cut off from them. It doesn't matter if it's not her fault. If she had Covid for example, she would be isolated from the baby as well because her presence poses an inherent risk. A psychiatric problem is no different. But at least with a proper diagnosis and treatment she may recover. That needs to be her focus right now, but OP's focus needs to be 100% on protecting their child.
If she has developed psychosis, she is not the same woman OP married right now. But he still owes it to the person his wife used to be to protect her child, even from her.
Story 2: this is the kind of allegation that has obliterated people's lives, that can get you brutally murdered in some cases. Your wife didn't get the accuse you she got you arrested and attacked you, and all she saw was you changing a diaper what could she possibly saw to misunderstood that? When you throw that around especially the way she did there's no fixing it, even if everyone's on her side you establish none of them can actually give you a valid reason for why all this happened. You don't need marriage counseling the trust has been broken beyond repair, and if she can recklessly jump to this conclusion so fast what's stopping her from doing it again?
from my experience with changing diapers, you have to clean the whole lower area up because diapers sit against their skin along with whatever waste it absorbs (or doesn’t absorb). my guess is that the wife walked in while the dad was cleaning up his kid. which is just good hygiene. but the wife clearly wasn’t seeing reality correctly, she’s clearly not in her right mind. AND she was violent against the father, which will make her lose custody because no judge will trust her with a child because what she did was assault.
edit: i’m being so fr about the diapers. especially with a “blow-out,” where the diaper fails and baby human waste gets everywhere. you just have to bathe them at that point. in non-blowout cases, you can use baby wipes
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
Yes, if my wife would have done that I'd have divorced her. There's no reason to assume that a man changing his daughter's diaper is SA'ing her. I think the wife is insane in some way, because most people would just assume that their husband is simply changing a diaper.
@@lului1456 I remember from changing our kids' diapers (one girl, one boy) that when they poop it tends to get everywhere down there. So yeah, as a father I often had to wipe poop from my daughter's vulva. If you don't, it can cause problems later, plus it's disgusting if you don't get it all clean. How someone can just assume that is SA is sickening.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios A lot of good it'd do trying to explain to the cops that your wife is temporarily insane when they're handcuffing you thinking that you're a sexual predator...
Story 2: Two words: _Postpartum psychosis._
Not excusing her behavior, but everything about this just _screams_ that to me.
Quite likely but this situation is so extreme, I don't think there is any coming back from this.
If it is, she should be put in a mental institution and be stripped of parenthood.
If it is not, she should be put in a prison and be stripped of parenthood.
add to it that she likely woke up in panic because her baby was missing.
Doesn't Postpartum psychosis develop in the first days after birth? I watched it only once in my life, in maternity ward practically immediately after delivery. It was horrible, the psychiatrist was called and the poor woman was moved into psychiatric ward.
Ive worked in crisis accommodation. Lady with a 2 or 3 month old. Escaping violence, scared of what her husband would do to her if he found her... the first 4 or so hours the fear and paranoia was within expected parameters... she was very attentive to baby, too attentive though, change nappy frequently but wholly focussed on baby. It wasnt until that night when she asked someone else in the shelter to check her wardrobe and drawers for husband spying that the paranoia was really showing itself. But nobody told workers there till the next day and she disappeared overnight. Story has a happy ending though, met the family the next day when search was launched her mum and dad where besides themselves, neither knew anything about mental health, i heard through the grapevine her husband sounded like a stand up guy. She was found and spent 3 weeks in psych. She came back to pick up her stuff and she was a COMPLETELY different person, smiling, relaxed... it was just a horrible post pardom psychotic break and no one around her was knowledgeable enough in MH to see the symptoms.
Story 1: The receptionist is the mvp here. Its better for OP to learn about his wife infidelity than later.
Story 2: I probably think his wife is having a postpartum depression of some kind to act out like that. Still that is not an excuse to put OP in prison for just changing his daughter's diapers.
The term you're trying to refer to in story 2 is called Post Partum Psychosis. kind of PPD but different reactions to similar stressors.
Or she’s just crazy or was planning to leave op and saw this as her golden ticket.
You forgot about story 3
It's a sad thing in story 2 when it comes to fathers of being accused of doing that even though it's just changing a diaper. And that really hurts the real victims who are experiencing it to a point of no one believes them. It's really a great thing OP had a camera there because if it wasn't for that then he would have been falsely accused of something that did not happened. This reminds me of when fathers take the kids out to the park (or wherever) you know to spend time with their children and yet people call the cops on them. But they will hardly question the mother (not saying they don't of course)
You can't do a damn thing anymore without someone who thinks they know better when they so clearly don't jump down your throat.
@@cecejamesable It’s always ignorant people who have the most to say
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios Do you remember the one where the woman had a friend who took advantage of her PPP to poison her against her husband and make her think he was cheating? And then she unalived herself and wanted to take their baby with her? And then the parents of wife took side of the woman who drove their daughter to her end instead of their son-in-law and grandchild's? All because the horrible woman wanted some drama in her life. That story still gets me.
@CSKaras that one had me raging. What is it with people? I'm starting to give up on humanity.
How does the wife sleep at night with her cheating on her husband on there 10 year anniversary
There are people in this world that do much effort in the cheating and the hiding. You could say it's the thrill of doing it behind someone's back. Until they are caught
In my experience you cannot trust anyone, and it does not matter how long you have been with someone or what you do for them. They can and will cheat.
Somehow I’m getting the feeling the real reason the wife quit her first few jobs was because she was actually voluntarily letting guys get hanky-lanky with her, but was breaking some morality clause and asked to resign, and she didn’t tell OP
she will be totally exhausted after such long and hard work days... 🙄
Well she’s usually not sleeping at night, aside from sleeping around.
Such violent and intense protectiveness of the baby and suspicion of dangers that don't exist could be a sign of postpartum psychosis -- this woman needs help ASAP
She needs jail lol
@@Diamondr11Blueexactly these mfers are parroting each other wouldn’t surprise me if it wasn’t the same person on multiple accounts.
If she acted from insanity she needs help. If she acted from malice I agree with you.
@@Diamondr11Blue
Honestly, the Diaper SA Accusation would be utterly unforgivable. Like, _divorce_ worthy. I can't see any way to come back from her nuclear, lunatic response. Any trust would be absolutely *shattered.*
Postpartum psychosis is real, and the price that woman had to pay for carrying that baby and getting her hormones all jacked up.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios doesn't really excuse whatever the fuck THAT was
@BadassHater1 do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, I'd say it's a pretty good excuse since it's not her freaking fault or under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLariosso an innocent man should have his life ruined because of a medical emergency. There just one factor you're not keying in, throughout the whole story, OP IS THE VICTIM. His livelihood was almost permanently changed for the worse, and the fact that all the mother did was apologize and not give ONE reason as to why she would accuse him of it, kinda shows she knew what she had did and is trying to reel back from what she done to cover herself.
Dude, you seriously are coming off as if a medical condition should be a pardon from nearly ruining someone's life.
@professionalidiot4447 they are both victims is my point. And she needs immediate help or she could harm herself or the baby. It's not an excuse, it's an emergency that you shouldn't turn your back on your partner for bc its literally not something that can be controlled. It's a temporary complete break from reality. It's dangerous
Dude, Receptionists are amazing. They're the stealthy glue that holds so much together.
It's fake
Story 2: Honestly, it's a really good question on why this happened. What did the wife think before the incident?
Whatever it is, there's no guarantee that this will be the only violent outburst, and the baby needs to be out of there
Honestly feel like it’s anxiety from postpartum depression or something to along those lines. A woman’s body is going through a lot during those times and many (including myself) have had mental breakdowns afterwards. Either way, she needs to get help and he needs to do what’s best for him.
Best guess i got, is that she woke up from a nasty, NASTY nightmare, and then saw the changing whilst still in the nightmare headspace.
...ive had nightmares rough enough that it takes a minute or 2 before i can think straight after waking up.
Does NOT justify what she did however, maybe, MAYBE it justifies the initial reaction, but her calling the cops is crossing the line no matter what.
Who cares?
She obviously thought he was capable of doing something so vile so why would he ever want to work it out with her
@@Schwiegermutter us because it's important?
Story 2: I think the wife needs mental health support. Post Partum Psychosis exists. If she hasn't shown any other signs of irrational behavior before, I would think to check that out first.
I think the husband is right to get out of there. Whatever the cause was, she could have destroyed his entire life and physically endanger his life, and the child.
@@breezy3392100% agree the OP should be away from her and have custody of the kid. But the wife still needs support for whatever is wrong, whether that's mental health support, medical support or otherwise. For someone to just create an accusation like that out of the blue, and call the cops is crazy. Which means she needs help. I am glad OP divorced her and is getting custody of the child, because if the wife has delusions she could seriously injure or kill her child.
@@careleo IMO she has tons of others to support and get her help.
OP owes her nothing but a kick to the butt on the way out the front-door.
@@miniman649 I didn't mean OP needed to help her. I mean she needs help. OP should run for the hills and keep him and his child safe.
@@breezy3392 oh yes, absolutely, it's definitely safest for everyone if he takes the baby somewhere else.
Story two - if there hadn’t have been a camera, the dad probably wouldn’t have been charged because it’s (depressingly) very easy to tell if a baby had been SA…however there would be no proof he hadn’t attempted anything, so he would have lived out his life treated like a criminal and lost custody of his kid
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios Then she can stay in a mental institute. STOP TRYING TO EXCUSE HER ACTIONS ASSHOLE.
It definitely sounds like the wife in story 2 is experiencing postpartum depression. In RARE cases PPD can develop to Postpartum Psychosis which..might explain her extreme reaction especially if it’s not on par with her personality. HOWEVER that does not excuse her falsely accusing the OP of a heinous act.
False accusations of SA can ruin lives, pretty sure Rslash read a story about how a guy commited suicide after being falsly accused
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios I can totally see this being a case of PPP. Not that it's ok what happened but she defiantly needs help and needs to get it soon. This is dangerous.
@adelariosflust505 Yeah and if thats the case she should get help, but I can imagine being this guy and being terrified. What if she does this again. I can see PPP being an excuse, but that doesn't obsolve responsibility. Her blaise reaction to it is kind of freaky too. A plain sorry is a lot different then. "Listen what I did was wrong and I might not be in the right place right now." Or something along those lines. The fact that she refuses to acknowledge how serious that situation is, is scary, and like you said shes a danger to both him and the baby if its PPP. No matter why she did it doesn't matter if I was this guy I would be trying to protect myself and my daughter. Besides it seems like everyone else can take care of her given their reactions to the accusation.
An innocent man wouldn't have committed suicide, though.
@@wmdkitty Are you delusional? There are tons of stories of guys comminting suicide after rape alegations, after pedo alegations even after woman cheating on her SO. Stop living under a rock.
Honestly Story #2 sounds like the wife was having some nightmares, then woke up in a half delirious state and couldn't process the situation
Agree
Honestly yeah I’ve woken up and said/thought/done some pretty absurd things 💀 I woke up and didn’t recognize my bf one time and screamed so loud
Nah, this is more than that. Her fight or flight got triggered, and then she even called the police.
@@RealCoolstriker64 Sure, but all that happened after she had already seen what she truly believed was her husband assaulting their daughter. Her mind cleared up after the event that she believed she witnessed, but that wouldn't replace the perception of what you saw, so she still fully believed that her husband had assaulted their daughter, until camera evidence had shown otherwise, at which point she probably realized that what she saw was not what she perceived.
If you were in her position, not knowing that your perception is compromised, and thought that your husband just assaulted your child, would you not call the cops just because the husband told you to stop (since at the time she didn't even accuse him, so he didn't even know that he'd have to dispel the thought she had, so continued to stay in a position that could look compromising to someone who doesn't understand the situation)?
Bit more concrete example:
Imagine you see your brother point an airsoft gun at your dad, then a car nearby has a cylinder misfire just as your dad had a stroke and collapsed, would you think your brother just shot your dad and run away, or would you immediately understand the circumstances and know that an unlikely sequence of events has just occurred and your position & frame of reference just led to a skewed perception of reality? (it's a bit more contrived, but it's hard to account for "just woken up delirium" + postpartum psychosis in a generalized example)
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
Last story:
OP’s fiancé literally emasculated him, and she did it without hesitation and maliciously. I don’t see how OP can ever feel the same about her again. I think this will affect him in future relationships too if he doesn’t get some kind of therapy. Why would you ever talk about your partner like that to anyone, especially if you supposedly love them.
Here come the You're insecure! comments, but if it was her feeling unwell redeit would run to her aid
She literally didn't though. That was just "girl talk", just like how guys have "guy talk". Yes, it was shitty what she said, but she OWNED UP TO IT. She tried EVERYTHING she could to apologize and to prove that she loves him for him. It IS insecurity because he says "i can do all these things for her, but i wont".
@@Yue_ggi no tf that's not. You don't like it when someone say ur tts small asf🤣
@@Yue_ggi
She didn’t apologize, she said she was sorry he heard what she said, not that she was sorry she said it. She did nothing further to “help,” him. She obviously doesn’t love him and it shows. She still wants her ex and his big “ego.”
@@Yue_ggi Something you'll find funny, most guys don't talk like this. Some do, but they're the outliers. Most of us keep our sex stuff close to the chest and even dislike it when our partners talk about it with us. Girls are the ones who seem much more comfortable talking about sex and stuff.
I have to agree with you, rslash. I'm someone who has had paranoid delusions, and that's what it sounds like. It's not like they come out of nowhere, either, she was probably stewing over them for a while. Maybe that's even why she was sleeping with the baby, because she didn't feel safe leaving it alone.
The false allegations would have put him in jail and he would have lasted maybe a week before he was beaten so severely he probably would have been killed. He is SO lucky the camera was there.
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLariosFOR CRYING OUT LOUD, DON'T POST THE SAME EXACT COMMENT IN EVERY COMMENT THREAD!!! Yeah, it could be psychosis, but if that's the case, then she should get help, and even if that's the case, he shouldn't be around anyone who falsely accused him of one of the most horrific crimes imaginable.
Story 2. The fact that the wife's first thought was that, OP was SA their child, instead of asking what he was doing, is absolutely crazy.
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios Do you know how long a court case takes? She would have snapped out if it WELL BEFORE THEN BUT MAINTAINED THE LIE.
Story 2 is probably even worse than we know.
When a child (no matter age) has been reported as being SA’d, oftentimes hospitals are required to perform a VERY intrusive and painful exam to prove that the accusation is true or false.
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
I'm like a minute and 15 seconds into the first story and I already think this dude is like a top-tier husband. The fact that he misses his wife because he hasn't spent enough time with her that week and he wants to spontaneously surprise her with flowers and a dinner? How many dudes are willing to do that ? I feel like a lot of dudes are completely apathetic to things like that and it's not just their fault per se. It just seems like that's kind of hard coded into men in our society.
My husband is like this. And I can one hundred percent tell you I will never cheat on him. This man loved his wife so much and it's gross she threw him away like that.
"Well if she was cheating on him then he really needs to figure out what it was that he wasn't doing." - Nice Girls
2- HELL NO! She attacked OP and accused him of SAing his daughter and got him arrested! BTW I'm pretty sure they would do an exam on the baby to see if she has any injuries for evidences!
Yeah don't believe that for a second that would work. Have you ever heard of the satanic panic of the '80s? All kinds of people made box accusations after poisoning. Their kids with garbage about them being sexually assaulted by satanic groups. And none of it happened. It was all made up. It was bad parents, bad therapist who most didn't even have any type of licensing. Pushing this narrative of repressed memories gained through hypnosis. When really what it was was false memories being implanted while someone was under hypnosis by the doctors and the parents because they were so set on this narrative. People went to jail and are still in jail because of false accusations. In Canada. Everybody came to their senses before anyone went to jail but people's lives were destroyed. And this was what it was. It was law enforcement therapist who weren't really therapists like life coaches, religious leaders and parents. So caught up in this nonsense that never happened. And really when you boil it all down what it was was projection because it was the churches and temples and places of worship where children were getting molested by a cabal of evil adults being hidden by law enforcement, parents and society at large. Just look at the Roman Catholic Church. The Mormons The Protestants the baptist the jewish islamic. That's all it is is projection. They don't want to admit that it's going on in their own house so they want to blame someone out. So don't count on that.
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios absolutely not. As a mental health professional. It is not your job. Your responsibility or your burden to carry somebody else's mental health. This woman is exactly where she needs to be being assessed by professionals and that child needs to be taken away from her. The fact that she attacked her husband on top of the child and put the child's life at risk is paramount to the situation. Her mental health comes far after the child's physical safety. Let her parents deal with her mental health. OP has to put his child first. And if your parent who thinks that your partners mental health should come before the physical safety of your child, then you are not a good parent.
@LLandS18 who said that her child's safety should come after her mental health? I surely didn't. I said she needs immediate medical attention.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios first of all just because you didn't say something exactly doesn't mean that isn't the way it was written out. You don't have to say something exactly to mean like that. You going on about PPP Like it's the most important thing in this instant when a child's life was put in risk is moronic. Also, she showed absolutely zero signs of PPP except for this incident. Not every time a lady who just had a baby acts a radically or violently. Is it postpartum depression or PPP. It's idiotic to say something like that.
Edit especially considering PPP happens in. Maybe 1% of postpartum women.
Story 2 is a case where you can’t “sort this out”
She could have ruined his life and can’t even explain why.
Story 1:OP I just want to say you did nothing to deserve her cheating on you, do not let her make you think you did something wrong. She cheated, all of this is 100% on her you did nothing, and if she's so shallow that she would cheat on you over money then this marriage was doomed from the start.
Women like the one in Story 2 is why men are afraid to take their kids to the park and such. We are either predators or "babysitters" and ONE ACCUSATION even with 0 proof can be enough to ruin our lives forever
It's ingrained into us as a society too. The only men who receive any sort of a pass are the fathers to their children. If you are a man who has a friendship with a child, you will always be looked at as if there is something more going on besides platonic friendship. It is absolutely disgusting to me, because women can easily molest children. Even easier because it's thought as a society that a woman doing so isn't as bad. We even go "nice" when women molest their students.
Yeah... my sister accused dad of doing nono things with the girls. We were a foster family then, and social workers came faster than you can immagine. I was barely in elememtary school then, so I can't remember much. Conversations are forgotten. But what I do remember is that a strange woman took me aside and asked me many weird things. I think I told her that I didn't like her and didn't want to talk to her, instead of answering. I do remember her getting angry with my replies. Eventually she gave up, and I ran to mum.
that true If the camera wasn't there OP life would be ruin and he would spend years in prison and his wife only said sorry cause of what she don't feel guilty about it she probably just don't want OP get full custody which he should cause she probably going try this shit to another guy and agreed like I remember a story of Rslash did where OP was in the park with his daughter and some random women accuse him of being a predators and the cop was involve and everything and once it came out it was his daughter he was let go but the women didn't believe it and still accuse him, that women like in the story and OP wife should be arrest cause there to many of them
@@LunarisArts At least it sounds like it was handled appropriately given the accusation.
You may not have liked the woman who was questioning you but it sounds like she was one in the system who was doing her job properly.
@@It-is-me...Melsie yeeeah... thing is I was a minor, she was not allowed to talk to me alone, especially with leading and pressing "questions". Had I not been so freaked out about it, I'd probably been taken from my family and placed in foster care. They didn't even let older siblings or my mother be with me. Not even a police officer (of which two appeared) was allowed to be my, a child under 10, advocate.
Story 2...mom needs to be evaluated for Postpartum depression/ pychosis. Maybe sge was assaulted as a kid and got triggered. If there was no camera they would have a doctor look over the baby and see no trauma. He wouldn't just be thrown into jail willynilly. I don't think he's getting full custody.
Thank you! My first thought was whether a buried trauma was surfacing. Doesn’t excuse getting someone arrested on bogus charges, but she definitely needs to see a therapist and should only have supervised visits with the baby for the time being. I think it’s possible she may have been zonked out from more than just exhaustion.
I’m curious to see if there will be updates for the first two stories. For the first, just what ends up happening with OP and for the second, if OP ever gets any more answers on why his wife did/assumed what she did. It feels like something else must be going on there.
The first post is 5 years old and has an update. Also that post is basically proven to be a fake story. But it would be so much work to read the update...
@@glemmariyou’re not even joking, i read the post and the grammar is so bad it looks like AI
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
3rd story: Yeah,time to call off the relationship.
Holy sh-t,not only its disrespectful and disgusting, it's just kicking down on your partner. Let alone it gives the perception she hasn't overcome her Ex, and brag about it to her friend
story 2: it’s so messed up that a guy changing a diaper is hit and accused of sa, and even if the wife knew he was just changing the kid why would she say that to the police? not to mention the fact that since op’s a guy he was immediately in cuffs where i know for a fact that if a woman was accused of that it would take a lot more convincing to the cops
Postpartum psychosis is real, and the price that woman had to pay for carrying that baby and getting her hormones all jacked up.
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios did you just reply to my comment, then come back 6 hours later to reply again both saying basically the same thing?
@@eeveeblazelolThat person copy-pasted their comment in just about every comment thread about story 2.
2nd story: OP needs to tell all these people trying to get him to take his wife back that she _literally could have gotten him killed_ with that allegation. It happens to monsters that hurt children in prison all the time. What if she does this again? Would they rather he be single, alive, and happy or married, in jail, and dead?
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios First, I know about PPP, it's awful and horrifying. But hurting people, especially people you love is not acceptable. Imagine this, they didn't have the camera. The OP gets arrested and murdered in prison. Her having PPP doesn't negate that. Plus his trust has been completely broken, which is completely understandable. If you can't trust the person you love staying with them is probably gonna make things worse. He'd always be looking over his shoulder, wondering if she's going to accuse him of something and ruin his life. Yes, it's a biological thing that she couldn't help, but trust is broken, she endangered her husband's life and lively hood. It's incredibly hard to get past that.
Also, why does everyone assume I'm a dude with a username like _Lady_Vee? It's not even a reference to anything.
I’m absolutely stunned and yet relieved at the same time that we have to rely on cameras in our babies bedrooms just to prove our spouse didn’t do anything wrong or maybe did do something wrong, but not in the stories case I feel like we have to have cameras everywhere now because of these nutballs just wildly running around
Would be nice if rSlash would actually provide links to these stories, so we can go look at the comments/updates
Gives you the subreddit and their username so just go search it
He puts the username in the bottom left corner
most reddit channels don't and it frustrates the hell out of me
He used to link the story. Maybe he was told not too?
Story 1 had an update:
"Update My wife cheated on 10 year anniversary.
Tl;Dr talked throughout the night and today. Finally got to the why. She answered all questions.
Okay here is an update from last couple days. I am exhausted sorry for the bad form that is about to happen. Wife and I had a marathon talking session on Friday into late night. I started by asking that she be honest in all answers and be complete. Do not tell me half truths that have to be asked several different ways to get a complete answer. She agreed. I started with Why?. Answer IDK. Kinda of what was expected. We went round and round on this, finally I said "how many times did you have sex?" Started to dodge but when I let out a sigh and shook my head she said 6 or 7 times. That started things rolling. I kept my cool. "How long?" Last 3 weeks. Back to why? Could not give an answer. "Do you still love me". Yes. "Saying it because we are done trying save marriage?" No with some conviction. "Do you find me attractive?" Yes . "Why?" Still can't answer. "Am I not giving you something you are looking for? Here she hesitated but quickly recovered. I knew I was on to something. Could not crack the nut though. Finally about midnight I was tired she was tired, I said "Mehgan you are an intelligent woman, I can not believe you can not articulate the why I am asking about". She started crying saying she is trying to answer my questions. I said ok enough for tonight time for bed. She starts to walk toward the door, I asked where she was going. To my parents house. I told her that "this is our house, I am not asking you to leave". She stopped crying at that point. I said "we are not divorced or seperated. That may come but for now we need to be together until we sort this out". We actually slept in the same bed, not sex in case you are going to ask.
I am up almost most of the night. I am reading some of the comments and dm. Had some great comments and back and forth with a few people. One told me that women generally marry up in social status we were unusual, maybe second thoughts, one suggested that maybe I was right that I was not fulfilling something for her, but one told me that there was a post a few days ago describing this scenario but from the womens view asking what she should do. He could not find it on the subs he looked at( r/survivinginfidelity and r/infidelity. So I pulled up Reddit put in Mehgan's account looked at her history. Bingo. She was the one who posted. So this morning bright abd early we start again.
I start out "Why?" Same answer. We go round and round she getting annoyed. Then I say did this guy "challenge you intellectually?" The look on her face was priceless. "You read my post". For the masses she described how she caught the feeling, when they first kiss, make out session in hotel, she left. Next morning after I left for work, she hightailed it over to hotel to put an end to it, then had sex. It continued at least up to her posting, I am sure a couple days later I discover them. She also was weighing on whether to leave, then says this is moving way to fast she needs to seperate from this guy. So I present this to her that she thinks I am a dumb hick. No she was attracted to him because this project they are on is his idea. She feels she is getting passed by and needs to up her game. The stimulation from this led to the attraction and the rest. Now IDK. I know her she was sincere. Now the floodgates open we have a great dialog through the issue. Mid afternoon she wants a break. She leaves to her parents.
So I am writing this update, knock on the door. Ok gotta saay I am really tired now. There stands Mehgan's mom. I tell her Mehgan is on the way to their house. She knows she wants to talk to me. She has never been to our house by herself. She has never that I remember talked to me privately. She says she is not here to sway me in anyway, she would accept any decision I make. But she wants to tell me her story. She was married once before Mehgan's dad, I knew that. The man she married was the love of her life. Didnt have much. She met now husband they caught some feelings. Before they cheated she told 1st husband they were done, divorced. Married new guy, he had some money but was an up and coming exec. Couple years go by not happy, made a mistake. Old husband moved on is married. She gets pregnant. Has Mehgan goes into depression, was actually institutionalized. 2 years later pregnant with brother repeat cycle, couple years later sister is born repeat. No more kids she is fixed. Everyone thought it was postpartum depression, I guess it was but it mirrored her ex also expanding his family. To this day she knows where he lives his kids names etc. She has never gotten over leaving the love of her life. She sees how I am with Meghan. She sees she is my love. She saw it when she quit her 1st job, how I took care of her. She got up and left saying nothing else.
This is really long I know. Please Mods stay with me. Couple things to clean up. Much talk about Mehgans first 2 jobs. None of you were there when she got off that plane and collapsed into my arms, we werent married yet. Harassment is real. Report it to who, the guy owned the company. She did right and quit the second job was more of the same, she left as soon as she felt uncomfortable. So FU to all those bad mouthing her actions. Next up I asked for civility in treating Mehgan. There were some that just showed their ass and spoke out anyway. I asked for advise but put down, called names. Someone said the kind reddit community has offered great advise. I call BS. They for the most part offered insults bad language very little insight. Thank you to the kind people who dm you were the best. Those that shared their stories I appreciate you and hope your journey from here is a smooth one. Want to know about Nichole? Nope. Want to know to what the future holds? Nope. Oh and her post will be removed."
"Rslash records weeks before posting and thats why he doesn't post updates" people say. But lol, that post is 5 years old. I think the whole post is fake. And rslash is lazy on postimg updates.
Almost forgot, ty for putting update here
Thank you for sharing!
This first story has been pretty much proven to be fake. Both perspectives, the "wifes" post and this one has the same grammatical misspellings and whatnot.
I want to know what the future holds. Given the back story from her mom, are you guys going to try to work through this or is this the time to go your own way and start a new chapter in life?
Story 2: the dad is lucky as hell to have the baby can that showed every cause without that he’s whole life is gone
Oh man, the way you read these stories. I'm bawling for the guy who's wife cheated. Obviously we don't know everything about a person from a short snippet, but we know he's faithful and celebrates his marriage, and she chose cheating instead of leaving for whatever her reasons are. And the fact that he's even self reflecting on what could be his shortcomings, is a telltale sign it's not him. If people are missing something, lonely, whatever, it's their responsibility as an adult to communicate that to their partner. And if it gets ignored, then it's their responsibility to decide the future of the relationship before making a new one.
👏👏 thank you, Dabney! That comment for the last story was on point! Why does she have to drag her fiance down too! You can be upset, but don't crap on what you do have. Obviously, you don't appreciate or want it anymore.
Agreed. Ironic that she was so upset about being dumped in her last relationship and now she's probably gonna be dumped again after screwing this one up too cuz she can't let the last relationship go. I'd feel sorry for her, but she shittalked about her partner for no reason.
The accusation story, the mom was suffering sleep deprivation psychosis. I have it and it was at its worse post pardum.
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@adelariosflust505 Yeah, I know what it is, lived through it several times.
I think that we'll find that OP's wife was a SA victim with repressed memories.
Her reaction is perfectly consistent with someone with that issue.
Honestly, I had that thought too. Least we forget, she had just woken up by, in the most generous of assumptions, an accidental exhaustion nap with her baby. So when she woke up, saw the baby missing, and eventually found her in a state of undress with a man, that might've triggered some trauma. Which might also be why she's so pushy about them getting counseling.
Still... that's the BEST case scenario, but the fact that she immediately jumped to that conclusion, physically attacked her husband so close to the baby that OP had to shield their daughter from her, called the cops, and didn't even THINK about the baby cams or even offer any kind of proof to the cops or question him... and it's only offering quick apologies and marriage counseling to "make up" for it... sometimes not quite adding up.
Especially since it does seem like this situation has happened before. The wife falling asleep, baby needing a diaper changed, and OP being a father and changing said diaper.
So, maybe after a few years of therapy she will be fit to be let back into society, but definitely not yet.
Weren't the whole 'repressed memories' thing that were so popular in the 80's debunked.
A person who suffers trauma may wish they could forget but they never do.
Repressed memories were not debunked. But it was found that they can be implanted...and that they are not reliable, as most memory isn't. Dissociative behavior stemming from repressed memories is well documented.@@It-is-me...Melsie
@@It-is-me...Melsie I have amnesia from trauma and it absolutely sucks. Sometimes I get horrific flashbacks but then they immediately disappear and I can't explain to anyone, not even my therapist why I'm distressed and it means that I struggle to get to the root cause.
It's actually awful.
However I don't think it excuses ops partner because even if it was fully accidental, I'm not sure I'd want to leave a baby there. I'm unsafe enough with myself.
R-Slash, keep in mind that women can definitely hurt men. “A woman hitting a man, what’s that gonna do?” Unintentionally comes off a bit sexist.
You’re awesome and I know you like to learn and get feedback. We have no idea of the physicality of either of them, plus adrenaline can have unexpected results sometimes.
Men have got it into their heads that they are stronger than women. And, yeah... _on average_ maybe, do they even know what that means? Because I'll tell you what it _doesn't_ mean, it _doesn't_ mean that every man is stronger than every woman, for one. And two, it _definitely_ doesn't mean that weaker hits magically do no damage. Fox does less damage than Ganondorf, therefore Fox mains always loose, right? No sane person (with a moderate understanding of Smash Bros.) would ever say that.
@@Wendy_O._KoopaThe caveat, "with a moderate understanding of Smash Bros" cracked me the hell up!
LOL Women can hit men, sure, but aren't going to do anywhere near the same damage.
@@wmdkitty It's just in one ear and out the other with you.
@@wmdkitty Women are more likely to use weapons, which evens the playing field. Besides, fight or flight can lead to things such as grandmas lifting cars to save their kids out of sheer adrenaline, which can also even the playing field.
so no ones gonna talk about how he said "im trying to save this marriage" ???
What does that have to do with anything?
It's fake
@@joeydrummer7929are you stupid?
We need false allegations to be federal crimes.
You would have a hard time proving that she did what she did out of maliciousness as opposed to believing what she thought she saw.
Nobody’s talking about how OP spent the night in jail because if that. Does the wife get reprimanded first her accusation? Does SHE have to spend a night in jail?
Sadly that won't work. Imagine a SA victim coming forward, trying to get justice. If anything leads to not guilty, her abuser could potentially press charges for false allegations. It's already hard enough for victims to come forward.
@andrewtrujillo7054 While I get your point,it's also worth noting that a lot of people get,at best, socially outcast even when being falsely accused of r*pe.
It is a very delicate theme,which can be very hard to balance. If you ask me,false accusation should be a crime, but that's imo
@@strikeforce1500 I do agree that if it can be proven the allegation was false then yes the person should be charged. It's a fact that such allegations can have far reaching and long last effects on the actual victim.
However I believe this case in question is not one which would be able to be proven.
That second story ... might be repressed PTSD. People who attack out of nowhere (especially when it comes to sexual trauma) could be experiencing unexpected resurfacing of memories, and they could be acting out what they wished they could do when they were violated.
Source: The Body Keeps the Score
much as I hope this is the answer, I doubt it. 371 messages and none are 'we need to talk, I have a lot to say to you about why I did this'.
even if it's out of her control, she'd be saying 'I couldn't control myself, I don't understand why I did what I did'. I get we don't have the full picture, OP didn't show us EVERY message verbatim, but if she had said at least once 'I need help to figure out why I did that', I'd like to think he'd have said that.
right now it's just 'I'm sorry, please come home'. no whys, no hows, just 'sorry'.
@@thebladeofchaos A lot of the time, even post-episode, the person with PTSD doesn't realize what happened. I highly encourage you to read Marilyn's story in Chapter 8 of The Body Keeps the Score
@@czmAveryoh I'm not doubting you mate. it just doesn't make sense that she's not saying 'I don't know what happened'.
she was aware enough for 24 hours of maintaining the claim until the video proved him innocent. it just doesn't sound right ot me, you know?
@@thebladeofchaos I think maybe the disconnect in our communication is that I can believe she fully believed she saw her daughter being sexually abused because she may have seen a disadsociated version of herself being sexually abused.
Did you know that, when experiencing flashbacks, people with PTSD's brains light up in *the exact same way* as they would if they were *actually seeing the event happen before their eyes*, regardless of their physical presentation of PTSD symptoms? Even if their brain recorded the memory in third person (a self preservation technique called disassociation), the brain still lights up as if it were seeing rhe event in person at that very moment.
Can you guess what my source is? ;)
Haha, in all seriousness, sorry for the miscommunication. I forgot to include that part as to why I believed she may have fully believed a PTSD flashback to be real life.
I'm no expert, I'm just mid read of the book. I highly encourage anyone who wants to know more about PTSD k(especially childhood PTSD) to read The Body Kreps the Score
If the second OP didn’t have footage in the baby’s room, he would have been in jail because they would have gone with her word over his. That reason alone is why she should be locked away for her false accusations
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her bc the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
Story 2 the only thing I could think could have made her accuse him of such a thing is post partum depression. Maybe she hasn't been in her right mind ever since having the baby? If it's something like that, I would encourage him to reconcile as it's something she can't help.
Story 2: I initially thought she might have been sleepwalking, but going to the lengths of calling the police, pressing charges, and leaving her husband in jail for a night (I mean, I can still point to the police not doing their due diligence and just trying to rush things) means she was awake, but I don't know what the hell is wrong with her.
She probably wanted OP out of her life and away from the child but didn’t want to go through with divorce
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
Story 1: Don't work on the marriage. This person will cheat on you again if you forgive her. That's how cheaters are. They only need the consequence of divorce or they don't learn.
I think that wife is having a post partum episode, they need to get her help so she can be a normal person again and stop hassling the husband.
My dads ex wife made that accusation against my dad (during their divorce )when my sister was a baby, my sister found out recently and was disgusted with her mother.
He waited until I was old enough to understand, then told me the story and how it destroyed his life
Story 1: I looked for the post on reddit and saw an update (its 4 years old), but its very clearly a fake story. He claims his wife wrote a post on an infidelity subreddit, but according to comments on the update, the "wife" writes exactly like the OP.
Being a CSA survivor I know people who claim your SAing a kid can ruin your life if they're lieing about it. I feel bad for OP and I hope he gets his daughter full custody
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios oh I didn't know about that in that case she isn't in the wrong her hormones were going crazy and I can now see that. Thank you for bringing this up, sometimes one-sided stuff gets clouded up.
I would have told the cops I want her arrested for false allegations. Let her spend the night in jail see how it feels.
She’s setting up him up so she could file for divorce herself and have no trouble getting child support if he would have SA on his record.
Story 2 reminds me of one of rSlash earlier videos about the husband who was accused by strangers in a store parking lot of kidnapping his own baby. Some woman accused him of kidnapping when he was literally just with his kid in her stroller heading towards his car. His wife was still inside. Eventually a crowd gathered and they took the woman’s side and the husband was literally beat up. It wasn’t until the wife finally came out of the store that everyone realized they were in the wrong. And that woman who accused the husband nearly kidnapped their daughter.
Ever since hearing that it really spooked me out as a man. Like we can’t even take our own kids out in public without someone accusing us.
Did anyone wind up calling the police on the mob?
@@LordBummingtonThe3rd I think the wife did but no one was really charged other than the Karen that tried to steal the baby I think. Once the mob realized their mistake they changed sides. Messed up because I believe the husband suffered from a bruised rib or two. I would link the original video but I honestly can't find it now. It was either under entitled parents or some entitled Karen video.
So I found the post on story one. Apparently people are badmouthing OPs wife for cheating and OP is actually DEFENDING her. I’m inclined to believe this is either rage bait or just fake.
Not saying it couldn't be either of those things, but some ppl are just in denial or don't want to see the worst in ppl or the situation. When you have been with someone for a decade it's hard to even think of living any different
Second story, I think postpartum depression plus repressed sexual abuse memories by a family member would totally explain wife/mom behavior.
That was my first thought, clearly her brain was primed to think that family is dangerous
Story 2: The baby is 6 months old, and this was random in a bit of exhaustion. It sounds like post partem depression or psychosis. I think the wife might need serious help. I’m glad OP is protecting himself but I hope the wife gets help before she hurts herself or someone else.
Story 2 - After thinking about it and reading a lot of comments, I would like to play amateur detective and go over the reasons why she might've done it:
*Postpartum Psychosis* - Unlikely, as it usually lasts between 2 to 12 weeks according to my research, not 6 months.
*Post-Sleep Delirium/Panic* - I don't buy it. She called the police and when they arrived, she either gave them a statement, or did absolutely nothing while her husband was cuffed and sent away. The only reason he got out was not because she suddenly realized the truth, but because they had footage proving his innocence. I do not believe she was half-awake for that long. She must've either really consciously believed he was doing it or she was lying. Which leads us to...
*Malicious Intent* - It's possible, but it did not sit right with me for the longest time, and now I know why. If she was having an affair or wanted OP out of her life without letting him see his daughter, why did she attack him? She could've easily seen what he was doing, played it cool and then discretely called the police. That would've blindsided him and not tip him off that something is off with his wife. Her immediate reaction definitely seemed more out of desperation instead of malice. If that is the case, however, divorce, divorce, DIVORCE like there's no tomorrow!!!
*Dream* - I saw a commenter post that this is supposedly the reason the wife gave OP in an update, but there's no evidence so it's still just a theory. Is it possible? Yes... but I find it very very unlikely. Personally, I've never had a dream that I thought was real after I woke up, but even if she had some kind of night terror (which those I did have), she should've probably woke up or gone back after a few minutes, not enough time to call and wait for the police. I dunno, I might just be ignorant, but I don't buy it. Even if that was the case it either means that she at some level believes he's capable of doing it or has serious issues that can put him and his child in harm's way.
*Past Trauma* - The most likely explenation in my own opinion. Would explain why she acted irrationally and why she stuck by her delusion until it was proven that she was wrong. However, if that's the case then she did not tell that to her husband (if she did, he would've considered it as a reason why she did it) which shows a lack of trust, and also shows she still has issues she needs to sort out.
Tl;dr - I think trauma is the most likely. However, regardless of the reason, the way she acted and what she did is unforgivable. And OP himself even claimed that he has no love left for her so, even if this is just for her, then he should leave her and take the baby too.
Story 2 is so infuriating/heartbreaking. I was going through some of the comments on the original post and OP still seemed to think there was something wrong with HIM. He literally did what he's supposed to do as a father: care for his child. Our world has seriously gone so far downhill that it's like a father can't even change/bathe/dress his own child without being accused of doing something heinous. OP is being made out to be the villain even though he's the victim! He was falsely accused of hurting his own child then his wife proceeded to assault him. His friends and family seriously think he should live the rest of his life with someone like that? He said even his friends, who know the full story, think that divorce is going too far. OP deserves to have someone so much better.
Do you know what psychosis is? Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
i appreciate the info but im still on OP's side here as the wife threatened both his own and THEIR babies lives by falsely accusing someone after beating the husband (who was so close to the baby that he had to cover it so they didnt get hurt) PPP is a real issue but it doesnt change anything about the story for me as OP may be able to resolve the issue with his wife or he may not. plus PPP is usually following PPD which i dont think OP said anything about, i know that there are other factors to this but after seeing so many people defend the wife likeshe didnt just beat up her husband after leaving a newborn all alone. thanks for letting me rant a bit@@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios
Story 2 sounds...like she's developing intense waking nightmares (basically sleep induced hallucitions) or a mental illness. Getting the wife to get a thorough psych evalv should be second priority and anyone who doesn't support the two separate shouldn't know the new location op and the baby go to because if it is a mental illness, then the mon CANNOT be able to locate them for everyone's safety. And where ever they go, cameras are gonna be important due to the nature of the allegations.
The only reason that I can think of as to why both families in Story 2 is saying that the husband shouldn't divorce is if they are ultra religious and don't believe in Divorce or some other reason why they don't believe in Divorce even though what the wife did was insane.
Diaper change story - I do not fault OP for divorce, custody, or protecting his good name.
I do have a theory for the reason though. If she'd been a victim of such an assault, especially as a child, seeing OP clean his child up might have triggered a flashback or half repressed memory.
It's not uncommon for victims to try to repress the hell out those situations. Even if you grew up next door and were childhood best friends, it's entirely possible to not know of events. Victims frequently do not report, either because of threats, shame, to not be seen as an easy target, or because they desperately want to be treated and seen as "normal".
On the first story. Please do not be weak! Leave her and move on. There's nothing to work out. Once a cheater always a cheater
Story 2: He definitely needs to get his daughter out of that situation. I feel bad for everyone, the ex-wife clearly has some sort of mental health problem. But it’s completely understandable OP is divorcing her and going for full custody.
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
Second story, OP ISN'T taking it far enough, she should be charged for reporting a fake crime, assaulting OP, child endangerment, child neglect (maybe?) and also sued for defamation, the mental health/trauma she caused OP...
yikes.
as someone with schizophrenia, i would never attack a person and accuse them of sexual assault for changing a baby’s diaper.
the whole 'what if she's just insane or schizophrenic?' line hit kind of weird to me, not gonna lie.
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her bc the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
The second story, while it could be a reach, really reminds me of postpartum psychosis.
The story of the arrested husband: hang on. I understand him wanting a divorce. BUT I will say, there is something going on. Get her a psych evaluation. Something in her brain told her the nefarious was happening and she "saw" it. There is something medically wrong.
So... No accountability again. 🙄
It's not the husband's problem to solve. He cannot trust her or be around her again. Let her get her own psychiatric help if she's so sorry, and then access to the child can be considered.
Or...she's just a bad person who was lying
@@akumabazooka9169 where did u get that from? She still needs to be held accountable. U can be held accountable for ur actions and still get the held needed
@@akumabazooka9169
Exactly. Because if a man pulls this shit he gets staked but a woman does it, well shit, it must be mental health! Must be PPD!
Fu*k that
maybe the wife in story 2 was likely trying to get full custody and divorce OP? like, for instance: she wants to play it as though her husband is abusing the baby, so then she can make the case in court that he should have custody removed from him and get a bunch of his assets if he goes to prison? i’m not quite sure if that’s how it works but that’s what my intuition was telling me.
Story 3 - It is what it is, we can't all be the best at everything. It doesn't mean it isn't adequate.. But talking about something that deeply personal and humiliating, to a third person, that's unforgivable.
Story 2: I know postpartum is a thing, but she should have charges pressed against her for this. This is terrifyingly dangerous for OP. We don't give others with mental illness a pass, why should it be different for postpartum, if that's what this was attributed to? A part of me thinks it's "easier" to work through cheating in a relationship compared to something like this. It's a HARD NO for moving forward in my opinion.
On the contrary, we do give others with mental illness a pass. Regularly. If she had post partum psychosis, then she honestly (but mistakenly) believed something awful was happening to her child and was protecting the baby. Better to treat her and get her functioning again, but keep her away from the baby until she is stable. If OP can view this as a medical episode they may be able to save the marriage.
@@traceymeek1238yeah I doubt it. He’s pretty adamant about leaving her and I don’t blame him. If all she had done was scream at him then maybe there’d be a chance. But she hit him and called the police on him to have him arrested
Story two: wife needs to be checked out for post partum psychosis. That story sounds strange.
Story 2: mom neglected the child’s diaper
She then physically abused her husband and called the cops
Had he NEVER changed a diaper?
If there hadn’t been a camera she would have destroyed his live, his family, reputation and career.
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I think the wife had an off day, fell asleep, and was still half asleep when she saw OP changing the baby. I think she thought she saw something that wasn't there. This is not justifying what happened. I'm just trying to make sense of it.
Third story: Compare a boyfriend's performance in the bed with an ex and saying the ex was better is an immediate relation killer. I wonder why her ex broke with her?
I honestly don’t understand why some women think it’s ok to gossip about their relationships to their friends, especially very intimate details like that.
So, people aren't allowed to talk about their sex lives with friends, or is there some other social issue that I am missing? Genuine question. I thought r/slash's take on the last story was odd and I am just trying to understand.
@@spectiliayou can definitely talk about your sex life with your friends or whoever you feel, but to compare your NOW significant other with your ex is disrespectful especially if you’re saying your ex was better in bed than your now s/o. it’s just rude and definitely grounds for ending the relationship
@@spectiliacomparing ur fiancé to ur ex is bad enough, then humiliating them by gossiping abt him wit ur friends is worse and then to lie abt it to their face is just disgusting.
@@blzultimate3495 Oh, yeah, no, the lie was definitely out of line, but that wasn't the part rslash was going off about or that i was confused on. If you are talking about your sex life, I feel like discussing current and past partners seems kind of like an obvious part of the convo. Also, what is your definition of gossip? Again, it's just talking about sex. She wasn't spreading false info about her fiance or anything.
I really wonder if wife in story 2 is experiencing post-partum psychosis. However, I don't think he's doing anything wrong as long as she's not getting treatment for it if it is the case.
Last story:
It might also have been unlucky and bad timing from OP, with his fiancé about to say something positive like "but I don't care about this anymore, because OP gives me so much more like XY" - maybe as an advice for a friend who is overthinking her relationship "because the ex was so much better".. there is context missing though and only the fiancé knows the answer to, but OP won't believe anything anymore :(
2end story: I wouldn't be surprised if she's cheating and she saw a chance to get rid of OP so she could get with her affair partner, there was a trial a few years back that something similar happened but his 8-year-old daughter handed over the baby monitor that had a memory card and told the lawyers about the other men who’d come over when Daddy was at work
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
*Nobody* is sorry because they cheated.
They're just 'sorry' they got caught.
Op is taking it too far but not the wife who literally immediately jumped to accusing her husband for something disgusting??? She literally called the freaking police and lied that she saw him do it. There's literally no going back from something like that. Op is right to divorce.
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
The mom who accused her husband of sa might need to see a dr about postpartum psychosis. Just to be sure she's not suffering from an actual illness. That way if she is, maybe she can get better and be there in the future as a parent and nothing more. But I've heard of some crazy stuff with women suffering from that. It's very real and very scary for everyone involved. I'd bring it up to the courts and ask she be evaluated.
OP2: There is no reparing this. No reasonable person could possibly look at this and think "oopsie, what a silly mistake." If it WAS a wild moment of senselessness you'd immediately beg forgiveness.
Story 3: The thing she said about OP is the worst you can do to your boyfriend, she destroyed his self-esteem, and also it seems she's still not over her ex. So yeah, this relationship is doomed, nothing in this world will make OP recover his love and attraction for his gf, the only way to heal is to be with someone who will appreciate him no matter what without trash talking about him or comparing him to others, let alone an ex.
In later updates he goes on to say that they went to counseling but split up shortly after they started.
@@mhammer3186 yup, there's no coming back from a shattered self-esteem and the disrespect, even if you go to counseling, also him and his ex would've seen counseling as a chore, therefore both probably felt anxious in that relationship as well. If someone disrespects the other in a relationship that relationship is doomed.
Story 3:
THIS is what people should actually think of when they hear the term "toxic masculinity".
It's the kind of insidious garbage that worms its way REALLY deep into the psyche of men and causes all kinds of bad reactions years down the line.
I'm pretty sure if you asked OP about this topic in a neutral setting, he'd say that "size" doesn't make you better or worse as a partner.
But clearly, that's not what he feels deep down. I've had different but similar problems with a partner in the past, but thankfully, a good conversation was able to clear this up once I realized what was going on.
However, OP is probably going to need a good therapist. And I'm not talking about saving the relationship, I'm exclusively talking about OP's mental health here. He needs to work through this for himself, nobody else.
How is being insecure and hurt because your spouse is lusting after someone else toxic masculinity? Even if it wasn’t the size issue, and her previous partner was just more sexually experienced, how was he suppose to react?
I’m eh on therapy, maybe he’ll need it, maybe not. But what I think he needs is to just leave the relationship. I doubt the attraction is going to come back, and knowing your souse talks badly about you behind your back is already a massive red flag.
@@lightninghawk1014
"How is being insecure and hurt because your spouse is lusting after someone else toxic masculinity?"
Well, firstly, that's not what he's hurt about, which you'd know if you had watched the video.
Secondly, I answered that question in the exact next sentence, which you'd know if you had read my comment.
Or maybe it's a comprehension issue.
I specifically said that I'm not concerned with the relationship. That seems to be over already anyway.
But this is a major issue he has that he needs to adress.
@lightninghawk1014 not once did she " speak badly about him behind his back" she never said he was bad in bed or make any negative comments about him. Ppl are wild lol
I’ve listened to the 3rd story again.
So it was about size for her. Alright. Even if she never said or meant anything she negative. That’s still not something you should talk about behind your spouse’s back, lie, try to hide. I so still say it’s a massive red flag.
So again, how is being hurt by the fact your partner is still focused on their ex, comparing you to them, and saying you don’t measure up to them toxic masculinity? Being hurt and insecure is a response I think any man or woman would have to the situation.
@@lightninghawk1014 I'm genuinely amazed that you missed that both the story and my commentary about it are mostly about the assosciation with genital size and self-worth in men.
This has nothing to do with his partner, she was just the trigger.
This is internal, and caused by society.
If you think your partner is still focused on her ex, that's not really harmful, nor does that really have much to do with masculinity, toxic or otherwise.
The concept of relating the size of your junk to your worth as a man is absolutely toxic, and very much related to masculinity.
Even if OP didn't go to jail, an accusation like that can level your life to the pavement. False accusations should have some consequences for the accuser.
That mother needs to be punished with more than a divorce. False allegations could have ruined the man's life.
I'm not saying OP in story 2 should try to work things out with his wife, but as someone who sometimes experiences hallucinations when I wake up from a deep sleep, she could have genuinely misinterpreted what she saw. Sometimes I even react violently as if I'm being attacked. I'm just not in a rational brain state to understand that there is no danger. Again, OP does not need to try and work it out, but it's not hard to believe she saw something else in that state and wasn't yet fully awake in the brain to think it through and reacted in an irrational way. Couple that with any potential post partum issues, and it's not hard to see what happened here.
Op should move on for sure, but I think there's a little more nuance here than folks might be willing to see.
ETA: the amount of folks treating the wife like she's made some evil, calculated move here is actually sickening to me. While she should be held accountable and get the help she needs, it's clear from her behavior that nothing she was doing was in a rational mindset and she didn't 'plan' for this or whatever. People are so ready to jump to malice and unwilling to accept the fact that even in the most ideal of pregnancies, your brain chemistry is completely altered, often not in good ways. If this was a planned, calculated move, don't you think she would have accounted for the camera?
OP should leave, especially since he's stated he's no longer in love with her, but the wife clearly needs help.
I'm sure that this wasn't a planned thing. I'm sure that she genuinely believed that she saw what she thought she saw. Does that justify hitting him? Maybe. Does that justify calling the cops? No. Calling the cops is the nuclear option and should be avoided if at all possible. The fact that she called the cops on her husband means that she's the sort of person who would call the cops on her husband in the right circumstances. What if he becomes a meth dealer or robs a bank? Would she call the cops then? Hard to come back from that breach of trust.
@hyzmarca2737 I fully agree that they can't come back from this and that OP shouldn't try to reconcile. That being said, you're telling me if you walked in on what you perceived and truly believed to be your spouse SAing your child that you would not call the cops? Now, none of us can say for sure what was going through this woman's mind, but if I believed caught my spouse harming our baby, I can’t really say I wouldn't do the same?
Because in a scenario (obviously not this one) where spouse A catches spouse B doing something inappropriate but ignores and/or rationalizes it away, Spouse A is just as culpable for any continued abuse. That wasn't what was happening here, and OP very likely would have been massively fucked if there weren't a camera, but I'm just trying to inject some nuance where folks are assuming malice on the wife's part. Especially since OP was literally reaching out to ask if he was missing anything.
@@MisuzuPM If I walked in on my spouse harming our child, the first thing I'd do would be to remove the child from that danger. I wouldn't call the cops, as that complicates the situation and only makes what comes next harder. I would, of course, separate immediately and take the child. I would very calmly discuss the issue with my spouse, since they're clearly a danger to our child and neither of us wants our child to be harmed, they'd hopefully agree that giving my full custody without visitation would be the best way to go. If not, the possibility of calling the cops would remain as leverage if they aren't reasonable about this. But people in prison can't pay child support. I don't need to win. I don't need a villain to defeat. I need to protect and provide for my kid. And I've heard enough horror stories to willingly call the police on anyone I didn't want to see shot dead.
@hyzmarca2737 Look, I don't trust cops myself. I have friends and family who have had run-ins with the wrong ones that ended in tragedy and have been personally brutalized by a cop myself. Even still, I'm calling the cops if I catch my spouse SAing our child. Assuming in this scenario I'm a SAHP, I'm not worried about child/spousal support because if my spouse goes to prison, I am legally entitled to their assets in many cases. What I'm more worried about is removing their ability to do further harm to other children.
Now, mind you, sex crime convictions aren't as common as people seem to think, so in the likely case they didn't go to prison, then I'd still want there a record of the abuse. If they do it again, there's a paper trail in place and any other cases that come up in the future can use it as evidence.
This all assumes that I would be capable of reacting calmly and rationally to walking in on my spouse SAing our child. For all I know, my immediate response might be to have anxiety attack, faint, or stab them 🤷🏾♀️
Story 2: postpartum psychosis. It sounds like she had a complete break from reality.
Story 2- OP, you made the right call to GTFO. And hot take- anyone who makes such false allegations should be treated as a crriminal and given the exact same sentence as the innocent accused
Postpartum psychosis (PPP) is a mental health *emergency*. This condition affects a person's sense of reality, causing hallucinations, delusions, paranoia or other behavior changes. In severe cases, people with PPP may attempt to harm themselves or their newborn.
AS IN the hormones from having a baby make the mother temporarily insane, and sometimes it's so bad the mom kills her baby or herself. All from some stupid hormones high jacking her brain. It's scary as hell, and if that's what was going on, a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, it's not her fault or under her control, and it certainly looks like PPP to me. Paranoid hallucinations right after giving birth=PPP. Just letting yal know bc its not super uncommon and it's very clear that's what was going on. That way if ur lady starts acting really out of character not long after giving birth you'll know to get her help IMMEDIATELY instead of leaving her or turning ur back on her, since it's happening to her for carrying the child she gave birth to and is in no way under her control.
Story 2-
With how the wife reacted and immediately accused OP of SA'ing their 6 month old daughter and attacked OP, it honestly sounds like the wife (like some people are saying here) has psychosis and didn't bother telling OP about it or undiagnosed psychosis.
If anything, if OP _WAS_ able to forgive his wife and take her back, cause if the wife has psychosis, diagnosed or not, if she accused OP for SA'ing their daughter and landing OP in jail, I imagine its only a matter of time before the wife accuses OP again