FEEL THE POWER!! 243 Winchester PPU 100gr Ammo Test
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In this video we’re going to do a ballistics gel test and review of the following hunting ammunition fired from the following test rifle:
- 243 Winchester Prvi Partizan PPU 100 grain Soft Point
- Winchester model 70 compact chambered in 243 Winchester with a 20 inch barrel
All shots are fired from a distance of 100 yards to encompass the majority of common real world hunting scenarios.
I will be shooting into 10% ballistics gel from www.clearballistics.com that has been calibrated to meet the FBI ballistics testing protocol.
While ballistics gel isn’t an exact proxy for big game, small game, predators or defensive situations, it does provide a repeatable medium through which to test various bullets and ammunitions against each other.
With each type of ammo tested I collect data on bullet penetration depth, bullet weight retention, bullet expansion and muzzle velocity.
For reference, bullet expansion is measured at the widest expanded point using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Caliper.
Bullet weight is measured using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Scale after having removed as much ballistics gel as possible from the expanded bullets.
Bullet velocity is measured using a ProChronoPal chronograph set approximately 7’ from the shooting bench.
I am fully aware that a chronograph measuring bullet velocity from 7’ away from the muzzle is going to register a slower velocity than if velocity were measured directly at the muzzle, but that difference is going to be so small as to be all but irrelevant in regards to comparison of actual measured velocity versus factory stated velocity.
My goal with these ballistics gel tests is to provide hunters like you and I with the most objective information possible to help us make the best choice for our particular hunting situation.
The results of these tests are my own and I cannot guarantee the same or similar performance on your part. The views and opinions expressed in this video are solely my own.
All videos are filmed in a safe and controlled environment on a private range with all applicable safety precautions by a trained professional. - Zábava
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Thanks for doing these tests. I don't think anyone is testing 243, 270, or 3006 these days. Everyone else is following the trendy new gun of the month club 😂
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And these three old workhorses still do the job on medium game because the deer are not that much tougher than they used to be !
It’s loaded with European specs, try .270 PPU
Agree. All those other rounds are just like “Tide” Detergent - “new and improved” to get you buy it.
Just become Proficient wth the rifle and ammunition that you have.
PPU is proving to be good ammo in a low tech way. Basic stuff done right.
Certainly seems so
I just bought 200 rounds of this ammo for my Ruger American compact . It groups better than any Hornady I can find. Thanks for your reviews. You have almost covered every firearm I have.
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I purchased a few boxes of this for 19.99 this year to help sight in a new rifle. It was really accurate and seemed like a good round. I didn’t use it to hunt but after watching this video I wouldn’t hesitate. I may even buy a few more boxes. Seems like an excellent budget option!
Picked some PPU up in 7mm-08 just for plinking and had the same results. It was ridiculously accurate for budget ammo. Sub MOA
Outstanding
Nice to see this kinda ammo being tested and working well considering vista outdoors just announced price hike on federal, Remington, cci ect. Thanks for these tests.
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243 is downloaded by commercial companies, just like everything else for liability reasons. I shot some old 243 Remington 100 gr core lokt that was leftover from 1990 when I was a teenager out of a 20 inch Model 70 like yours a few years back and it hit 2900 fps on average of 5 shots. the other 5 went out of a Savage with the same barrel length and it was the same average. Then I found some hand loads that I had made with an 85gr Sierra BTHP that I loaded with IMR3031 way back then.. had no idea the velocity they would make because 16 year olds did not have chronographs in 1990. Only had 10 of them and they were smoking at 3100+ fps, highest was 3150. All were measured by hand on a balance scale for powder weight. and 5 shots inside an inch at 100-ish yards. Great groundhog load!
Hey brother....as a Croatian, pronunciation of Prvi is not "privie" it is "pervee." Lol it means "first". Really like your testing protocol. "First Partisans", really like this ammo.
Hey man awesome. I just asked about 243 you said you had it coming and 24 hours later here it is. Great job keep it up.
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Like the channel and effort you put into these videos! Keep up the good work!
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PPU ammo is far from budget ammo in Europe. It’s very good ammunition made by a company that is older than a lot of US manufacturers. It is definitely my favorite factory 44 mag ammunition. Hotter then Remington and Hornady and does awesome on whitetails out to 125 yards. Exceptionally accurate out of my 10” barrel Ruger super Blackhawk.
Excellent. Good stuff. Can't complain with good results.... especially for the money. Much appreciated.
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I have had excellent results with PPU in .270.
Very consistent.
I shot a box of Barnual 243. I was trying it because it's nearly half the price of the PPU. Massive fireballs, flattened primers, a stuck split case and a permanently scratched chamber. Some days you get what you pay for. Other days you pay for what you get.
Dang
Like the video and very informative.
I am running a LA102 Lithgow 243 and the accuracy with the PPU brilliant.
Recently sighted in a pre64 in 264 win mag, I shot 140 gr Hornady Outfitter and PPU 140 gr sp. The PPU grouped inside the Hornady and I was totally impressed.The PPU was one third the price of the Outfitter ammo and actually shot better. This was my experience that will validate the above video.Regards
you found 264wm ppu ammo?? Where do you live? I want some lol
Thank you for doing a group test!! You should do this with every ammo!
Nice review, I'll have to try some!
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Great video
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One of my disappointments based on long time observation of common American ammo brands, is not necessarily the brass or bullets used, but the lack of powder. I don't understand the desire to almost always deliver product to the American customer that not only DOESN'T deliver what the package claims it is supposed to deliver, but is always middle-road or shy of middle-road in the use of powder. In other words, velocity never measures up.
I've spent a good amount of time in a mechanical engineering career and am very familiar with standards. There's standards for everything. There's organizations and associations for everything. In the munitions world, that is mostly SAAMI (although there's others in foreign countries). Is the lack of velocity in a lot of ammunition just a fear of litigation if munitions manufacturers actually approached the high end of pressure limits? Gonna blow up people's guns, so give them ammunition that functions middle-road or lower-road so that never happens? My impression of companies like Remington, Winchester, and Federal are not that great, mostly due to the dull performance of so much of their ammunition options. It's okay, but it's just nothing one might call amazing. EVER. I think, "that load" (whatever it might be) could be so much better if one just yanked the bullet, dumped in a little more powder, and stuck the bullet back into the case. Yeah I know, not practical whatsoever but just dreaming.
Foreign imports like Prvi Partizan and Sellier & Bellot seem to be delivering some actual horsepower in their loads.
I have the exact same gun in the same caliber. Bought it a few years ago on my 18th birthday.
Awesome
That’s cool !
Imo 243’s like to be ran hot for best groups I’ve found out. All four of my 243 average a half grain over max book loads with their tightest groups.
That’s a great looking rifle buddy…mighty fine indeed
Thanks, I’m a big fan!
I had similar accuracy with my rifle and the ppu 90gr sp loads, and they also seemed pretty hot, more recoil than the federal power shok 100gr I was shooting the same day.
Awesome
This is 6 mm Remington performance from a 20" barrel which is very good. Bullet weight retention would be much better if it was fired from some distance, say 200 yards or so. Excellent ammo considering the low price. Thanks for another great video.
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I think the unfortunate, time consuming, and expensive reality, is that we need more than 3 rounds to get averages that we can rely on. Whether that's in regards to accuracy, velocity, or ballistics testing, you can't get good averages with only 3. That sucks because I would imagine you'd need to deal with barrel heat issues, needing to use a second or third gel block PER test..so I get it. But I'm not saying your testing is useless, I'll give it to you sir, idk if other folks are doing this - recording velocity while simultaneously shooting into a gel block at 100yd to get a better example of what expansion would actually be like at a real hunting distance. I appreciate that you tested that way, because a lot of ballistics gel testing is done at closer distances. Either because of the caliber being tested (handguns) or to ensure that you get a good shot on the gel (i presume).
I've got some friends that often use PPU for other calibers, 30-30, and 308, simply because its the cheapest they can usually find. They've been able to take whitetail with it and I don't recall any stories of wounding one or not finding one..granted can't be sure if they just chose not to say haha.
Thanks for doing this test sir!
Used various caliber PPU ammo. All of it performed extremely well. 😊
Can you test some Sellier and Bellot
🎯🎯For the money the PPU ammo is a good buy. CZcamsr Tools&Targets has a gel test of the PPU 7.62x39 soft point ammo and it did quite well too. 🎯🎯
Definitely got loads I had the 243 ppu blow holes in the primer where the firing pin struck. Lucky it was an Enfield action where I could easy pick the brass from the primer out of the firing pin hole.
There is a guy here on you tube that uses lots of this ammo (but in 308) to cull feral camels in Australia. Channel is ‘Jack Out The Back’. Ammo works but that “scuffy” case you mentioned causes lots of jams once the rifle heats up.
Interesting
PPU may be budget ammo that you may not think is trustworthy.
That may be true for bullet performance, but the brass is top shelf for less than half the price of many so called 'premium brass' manufacturers.
Loaded with let's say Barnes bullets performs great.
I get really good results from a 9.3x62 at max loads with no issues after 5 firings.
I wonder if the projectiles are in house or made by a third party
,,,,and the PPU brass is great for reloading !!!!!
I agree it is pretty robust for multiple loads. Still have to check the brass but it is higher quality than expected.
I had trouble with extraction with this ammo a couple times I figured it was on the hot side of things. But hard to tell.
I didn’t have any extraction issues but every chamber is different
Great review ,well done ✅
have you reviewed the 90 grain version ?
I've been using 90s since 2004 , about 1600 ppu out the tube now.
had 4 with split in brass at neck and still shot them & 1 other fail to fire , have had that type of issues along with deformed primers with the other brands also .
I have suggested to the ppu factory on several occasions that a 70 grain soft point version at 3400 fps would be welcome addition and I reckon a popular seller as faster across the paddock for smaller game .
If everyone keeps talking this brand of ammunition up, we won't have a budget brand anymore !
Their 7.62x54r, and 308 are devastating on whitetails.
Outstanding
I have had good luck with that ammo.
Outstanding
Hey, I have a request if you don’t mind or question…have you tested the Hornady reduced recoil loads ? If not , is it possible to see it in the future
I would like to see an accuracy test with this ammo.
Very impressive results! I run ppu soft points out of my 7.62x39 AR built with great accuracy results. Good stuff...
On a side note, do you happen to test 44 magnum loads out of lever carbines? Reason being is that here in NH, many of us hunt with lever action carbines in 44 mag/ 357 magnum in "shotgun only zones". Curious to see some 44 mag ballistic testing.
Yes, I’ve got some 44m tests already filmed from an 18.5” barrel, just have to edit them, not sure when they’ll be released
I need to reply do your studies on the 243 and other calibers with the Winchester model 70 there’s many CZcamsrs out there all challenging different calibers. I would love to see somebody challenge these ballistic chart readers what would happen if you’re Caliber hit some swampgrass nicked a twig This would be a study. I think you could handle and show it’s not all about numbers but the hunter that’s hunting in his area I live Wisconsin,lotta swamps heavy timber if you take a 243 or 308, which is the best, if your bullet passes through grass or twigs, these are test that many owners would like to see,love your hard work maybe my question is a challenge for you, but I would love to see it
Have you tried the SuperFormance loads by Hornady yet?
I guess, it's just me, but I tried ppu ammo about 6 years back and couldn't get ppu munitions to group worth a damn out of any of my rifles. I have tried 243, 308, 30'06, and 30/30. All were previously zeroed prior to trying the ppu stuff. The worst was the '06. It was key holing before 200 yards.
I reloaded the weapons with their zeroed ammo and all performed perfectly. I was definitely disappointed in the lack of performance. My 243 Rossi groups inside my thumbnail at 100 with 95 grain Sierra soft points. My Ruger 308 is only marginally worse circling the edge of a nickel. My '03A3 holds inside a half dollar. So these all shoot well.
Maybe I'll give them another look, but I tagged out yesterday for Texas so I will be looking for hog pills.
My other comment simplifies what I’m asking. Nobody seems to do test for scenarios for hunters what if you cannot see the grass or deflection’s that your bullet might an Connor what bullet works the best,this might be a test that hunters really want to see.
I have a model 70 featherweight in 6mm rem. Have those bullets as well. They must really be smoking! Haven't tried them yet. Wasn't a fan of the accuracy of the American whitetail ammo. Prefer the 95 grain Hornady.
That ammo looks fine to me.😊
Absolutely
That would do the job. 👍👍
Absolutely
I literally saw these today and was wondering how they performed, specifically in 7mm mag. Great price on them
I’ll be doing the 7mag version in the spring
I would like to see the Hornady superformance 95gr sst. Hornady clames 3185fps at the muzzle.
it doesn't surprise me that the bullet wt retention and expansion was so inconsistent. Pushing a 100gr. bullet at that speed will stress it quite a bit.
Maybe a little too fast? Slowing down would reduce expansion, which would probably get you over the 20-inch mark. Probably just perfect at 100 yards or so.
Perhaps
Hey Mason, your videos are great man! I was wondering how pricey the gelatin blocks you use are. I've got this load I use for deer, and I want to see what happens to the projectile due to the extreme speed generated and the rather slight amount of metal it contains versus the velocity. It's straight out of a Nosler No.3 load book as the Max load for a .25 caliber 100gr Ballistic TIP using IMR 4831. I call it my" Lazer load" at 3490 fps out of a 22" barrel! Normally I would be skeptical of that speed quote, but the book says it was tested in 22"Hart test barrel." It is Utterly awesome and completely dumbfounding to see the first time, and just plain wicked after that, and easily capable of 400-yard clean humane harvests if the shooter does his part. Mac
There’s a link in the video description, I think they’re like 89 bucks or so retail each
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This is great news! However how +p is it? did you notice any stress on the cartridge? If it's safe for the gun like a mod 70 I have to get a bunch of it. Thanks for your videos, T
The “+P” is just a figure of speech in this circumstance, because it’s substantially faster than other 100gr 243 factory loads, it seems to be inside of safe pressure, no extraction issues or other signs
Thats great news thanks for your gel tests. It is helping me to make decisions. I can not do it right now but about what am I looking at for a mossberg 835 leather Buttstock and 12ga loops engraving we would have to talk about if any Thanks again,T@@masonleather
I saw a video of a guy sabot-load 55 grain bullet into 300 win mag…. Went around 5,300 FPS and blew straight through 1/2” ar500 steel 😂. Almost hypersonic
You can buy the 30 cal sabots by looking them up on an internet search.
I buy them this way then load 60 grain 224 bullets in the 30 sabots to be fired from a 300 Wby mag
Sweet
Should be a great whitetail cartridge. It doesn't break the bank either. 🤠
Absolutely
Pretty sure manufacturer standard (for fps claims) is done with 24" barrels.
Personally believe budget guns are made with 20-22" barrels for cost savings/profit margins. Think about it a 20" bbl is 4" shorter than the standard test length. So they get a free barrel blank out of every 5 produced.
When you buy a "precision" model firearm they'll typically have 24"+ barrel lengths.
* if I remember right you lose
~ 50-75 fps for every inch of barrel length removed. *
Sure, like that rifle.
It’s great
i have killed several deer with this load, and when ammo got scarce, i even bought the 100 gr bullets from ppu to reload (they were one of the few non ballistic tip bullets i could find) i started seeing ammo back on the shelf before i got around to reloading any, but i plan to over my Christmas break. Excellent video, sir!
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Try the 55gr
Lmfao, off shore entry level ammo out performing big dollar Capitalist ammo, love it.
Absolutely
I suspect that ppu is loaded to European pressure specs and that may explain the extra heat.
Perhaps
You need at least a 24 inch barrel to get full velocity. I wouldn't accept any 243 rifle with a barrel less than 24 inches!
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+p?
Could you please do a review of Fort Scott TUI ammo. I can't find any reviews other than Fort Scott. In all honesty it's hard to judge off of their videos. Especially their hunting videos. Poor shots. Poor video quality. I'd love to see something in short action. 243, 6.5cm, 7mm-08, 308. Any of those.
The Europeans are putting American manufacturers to shame lately between the S&B 30-30 and this stuff.
I purchased S&B shells for a post 64 Win 30-30 and the combo shot so well a fellow bought it from me (including the shells) before I left the range. Oddly, I've shot a few post 64 rifles and all were great preformers. This fellow had wanted one for their handiness (as I did too) but was always concerned they wouldn't shot well.
Seems to be pretty good stuff
Too bad the serbs shut down arms exports, and thus export of this ammo
Great video
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