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The 17WMR has more energy at 100 yards than the .22 mag, but only 60% of the sectional density. Sectional density is a big factor in penetration. I DOUBT the 17 WMR vaporized. I think it went through the first jug and bounced off the second one.
id like to see you do the same test with the .17 hmr with the CCI fmj rounds.......just for a penetration demonstration......
I don't trust the .17 rimfire caliber for hunting or self-defense. It is worthless!
The .22 MAGNUM rimfire is good for self-defense and small game hunting.
@@JohnLloydScharf the .17 rimfire suffers from wind drift, lacks penetration and is worthless.
I was rooting for the 22 Mag 👍
Really appreciate the tests from 100 yards. Much more telling about the actual effect of the round/caliber.
Thanks for watching
Agreed.
Yeah id like to see more just like this on other calibers
I concur mag punches harder but 17 is more accurate. I've both love the 17 but wouldn't use it on fox
@@eoincostello4634 Why not? For the pelt? The way that jug popped, I can't imagine a fox surviving a headshot from that, so I'm curious to know. I got my first fox last night (only a baby, but I'm still counting it😊) with .22LR at maybe 30-40 metres.
You keep demonstrating how good the 22 mag is. Please continue to do so. WTW......
Its good for penetration the 17hmr hollow point did exactly what its made for. Cci also makes 17hmr fmj which is much better at penetration
I did this test when the 17 hmr first was hot years ago.
The 22 mag the right bullet will drop a deer with a heart or lung shot. Also feathers are tough and the 22 mag will get the job done at suprising distance. You just discovered one of the 17hmrs flaw. Penetration. Small critters it rears up within distance, but honestly a 22lr is better if you plan on your target being groceries. Past the Long Rifle the magnum comes into play, but can be used for both. Just more expensive than 22lr.
The 32grain maxi-v+ explodes water jugs pretty well.
Nice video!
Keep'em coming!
You should do “how many milk jugs 17hmr fmj vs 22mag fmj”!!!
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Yes
double yes
For sure.
.22 mag again for the win. Absolute best rim fire period. Best case scenario survival long arm. My favorite long arm I have out of the many.
How is that a 'win?'
The best part of this video is how nice it is to see a good father spend time with his boys God bless you brother thanks for the great video
22 mag all day long. Laws of physics in effect... 🤘
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Yes sir for sure
22 mag much better. And 17 hmr to damn loud
17hmr is only good if you love constantly cleaning bores lol
Wow! I never expected that.
I wish CCI or somebody would work on .22mag ammunition the way some others have developed 9mm rounds to improve performance.
This is a great video. Thanks for sharing it with us!
Agreed. I'd love to see more 1:14" twist barrels & better B.C. 40 -50gr projectiles & better crimping. Less drop & drift , & slower expansion & more penetration. We have 22lr & 17 hmr for small game , the 22 mag has the ability to take smaller game but the extra ability to tackle slightly larger stuff & less meat damage.
My late brother shot a spike buck at about 75 yards with a 22wmr through the front shoulder. It went all the way through and exited. The leaving hole looked like a 3006 exit hole. It's a fine round over open ground.
Using the TNT bullet, you know it's not going to penetrate. They're made to expand, explosively, thus the TNT moniker. HMR is great for tiny critters, but the WMR gets the nod for coyote sized game.
Ur boys are so adorable ☺️ u gonna make family channel soon ?
I had a family channel before this one 😆😆😆. Hundreds of videos on that channel 😆😆😆.
READY! 😆😆😆
If ya dont know edwin matt or who tee who I really can't fwu.
Wassup Edwin
Great test. Glad to see the channel is doing well. Been here since the beginning.
Nice! Getting the kids and pup involved with the ads, very cool and makes the ads less of a pain. You seem like a good dad! Wish I had a dad like you 👍
The 22Mag Looks Like It'll Hold It's Own As A Standoff Light Self Defense Round That Has Deep Penetration Capabilities In A SHTF Situation!
17HMR May Not Penetrate As Deeply From That Range, But Will Definitely Do Some Damage That Will Keep Your Enemy At Bey! Both Rounds Have Greater Capabilities As Light Self Defense Rounds Then They're Given!
So awesome to meet your family 😌💞. Ty for sharing. Love this..lolol
My money was on the .22 mag for penetration, and I guessed right! The extra weight and bullet density gives it more energy and penetration power. However, I bet that .17 stays more accurate out a little further, and they’re ideal for coyote hunting out to about 150-200 yrds with minimal damage to the hides 👍🏼
The 40 grainers go through multiple, the 30 just blow the first one up real good..
Not sure why the 17 HMR gets so much attention other than being woke in the gun world. 22 mag is a great round and delivers a lot of energy
Have all 17’s, HM2, HMR, and WSM. Also 22 & 22 Mag. Just love all the rim fires for different reasons. Just like hammers, carpenter, mason & ball peen hammers, different applications.
Thanks Hoot! Good vid!
The .17hmr is meant to dump energy. .22mag really is for great energy and penetrates a bit more.
how is 4 jugs vs 1 jug of penetration .. "a bit more" ??
I'd say that's a whole hell of a lot more.
Thanks, that was fun! The .22 WMR is a serious round.
Thanks for watching!
I was pulling for the 22mag and was not disappointed. Thanks for the test!
Thanks for watching!
My money was on the Magnum before you pulled the trigger. The Mighty Mag Wins! Make Magnums Great Again!
That was awesome WTW! That 17 is moving man! Great video, thanks fir sharing brother!🤘🏽
Hey Michael!
Pretty funny with the old pup. Nice looking family. That was at 100 yards, that 22mag from my experience with it and from your videos has never ceased to amaze me. Definitely in the all time best cartridges class.
Awesome to see you spending time with your boys.
Did my testing on both as well, was impressed with the penetration of the 17hmr compared to 22 mag. 22lr spinning targets did not penetrate with 22 mag but the 17hmr drilled holes through the plates. 50 yards, love the hmr on rodents, absolutely annihilates them. Love both but my go to is the 17.
Excellent demonstration
I expected the.17 to out perform the.22. Boy was I wrong! Another really fun video! Thanks, Adam.
Thanks for watching Bruce!
I'd like to see you compare the .17 HMR 20 grain XTP round. Better penetration than the 17 grain TNT and would have been a better comparison than what you chose.
TNT bullets are Varmint rounds. .17 had exactly the desired effect.
Gotta love the 22mag! 💪🏼
Absolutely
Great video!!! Wouldn’t have guessed that many for the hollow point 22 mag
Surprised me
Great comparison. Obviously, the heavier .22 mag round retains more energy at longer range, that's the main reason I've never gotten on the .17 cal bandwagon, but I have shot a few and they are fun, and do have their place, just not in my gun cabinet.
That’s where I’m at. I’ve got an older Marlin 22mag that gets the job done don’t see a reason to spend the money on a 17
Never would’ve guessed that result ... crazy little round huh 22 mag
Surprised me
Absolutely great video! 🤗👍
Thanks for watching Robbie
I really appreciate the long range shooting of the smaller calibers and showing what they will do at those ranges.
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Yeh make hay while the sun shines mate
Just thank god u have a job ! I don't mean that in a bad way ! Yes I've been in those shoes ! Out of town away from family 7 12hrs days for 150 days sometimes longer understand money isn't everything ! But when u haven't seen a paycheck in year and half ! It's hard to not to say a little something! Thank god everyday and not complain and be appreciative what you have been bless with ! Sorry I'm a straight shooter and don't beat around the bush ! God bless sir and all your family and friends !
@@jackmyers6040 Our demand kicked way up in the last 3 months because so many other companies have been shut down or have reduced out put because of Covid . Only 2 people in my building feeding and maintaining robots so I see no reason for it to lighten up till they drop the mandates . God bless you and your family !
Everything I have read on the .17 hmr and hm2 says they are made to fragment on impact so they are safer to use around houses. They fragment on impact and don't ricochet like a .22 can.
Love the 22. Wmr in the Rough rider revolver. Little kick and impressively loud, plus not terribly priced
Great vid for a comparison that clearly shows the superiority of the 22 mag over the 17 HMR.
Awsome comparison. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I'm not surprised. I have both the .17 and the .22 mag in Savage rifles. The .17 always shatters. Great video.
Impressive penetration from the .22 Maximag. I think you are correct about the 17 HMR disintegrating from its hypervelocity on impact.
Hell yeah Great Test man!!
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Wow - what a difference - Thanks - The information that you provide us with is so extremely valuable - It helps us make better decisions on what type of weapon and/or ammo to purchase depending on the type of application we intend to use. Again THANKS and keep doing what you are doing. Buster
Thanks for watching Daryl!
Love the JR competition. Awesome man!
Thanks for watching!
Great video! It would be interesting to see the penetration differences between the CCI MAXI MAG 40 GR HP and the CCI 40 GR GAMEPOINT rounds!
I’m really impressed with that 22 mag. Nice video! And I ordered a variety pack from maxie squad. I’ll do the Alaska dog test!
I love em all! Let me know what the puppy likes!
Thanks again for the video. I can check it out vicariously with you doing the work. As much as I am intrigued about the .17HMR, I already have .22magnum, as well as 19 other calibers to keep up with.
Thanks for watching Sean
They both did what they were intended to do, with that said they’re both devastating rounds. Great video I loved it
I definitely didn't expect those results, very interesting. I would never have guessed that the 22mag would have had that much more penetration than the .17HMR. I own both so I'll keep that in mind. Nice test.
Surprised me
@@WHOTEEWHO I shoot turtles in the pond with my .17HMR, literally blows body parts into the air, very effective.
You shuld used the CCI Gamepoint HP in the 17HMR. The TNT is not ment to penetrate, but to dissagrade on impact.
I've never played with a 17 HMR, but I do like the 22 WMR. Thanks for another good lesson!!
Thanks for watching Bill
Oh yeah Buddy another classic both fun and interesting 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching Jeff
Both of these are fun ones to use, the 22 mag did better than I thought. Maybe same shot with FMJ. Thanks again Who Tee Who gods speed to ya and your family 👍🇺🇸
Hey Joel! Appreciate you watching
You know how you can tell a guy is "Down-To-Earth", and really cool...? He's got a Beagle. Oh...and kids.
Cousin Jim, a retired Army officer, asked me to sight in his CZ 22LR bolt action with a Sweet 16 scope on it. He wanted to be able to hit the X at 100 yds. I only had a communication problem it seems. I spent about ½ an hour getting down to the X ring. But, I had to give up on hitting the X. As I explained to Cousin Jim, " I can a hair above the X. Or I can hit a hair below the X. I just cain't hit the X." And he says, "just keep trying, Chuck, watch your breathing, you can do it!". But I finally gave up and took that rifle back to him outside of Spartanburg. A week later he called and said, "Chuck! You're right on it! What were you complaining about? Every shot is In the X Ring! You cain't ask for better than that!" "Jim", I replied, "you said I had to hit the X!"
Cousin Jim was an artillery officer. I guess anything within 10 meters is good enough for him.
Well now that was a interesting video, and I would have never thought that the 22 magnum would have that much more mojo than the 17, but like you say that is why you do these tests.
Thanks for watching David
Not only do I love your shooting videos, you have my most profound respect for being a loving father! God bless you and your family!
I was not expecting that, I figured the .17 HMR would at least make it through a few milk jugs.
Surprised me
.17 is made to dump energy quickly. Less damage to hides and more damage to vitals.
@@anadu13
how do you damage vitals with low penetration?
Hell I felt like a one legged cat, trying to bury turds on a frozen pond out there today...
That .22 mag. was on a mission!
Thanks for the video. Two of my co-workers said their .17hmr is one of their funnest guns, since it explodes gophers with the ballistic tip.
The 22 mag is a potent round and adequate for self defense. Biggest problem is that a rim fire bullet does not always go off.
If one applies the 21' foot rule, it's a risky proposition if you have a misfire and even the 2nd round fires true, you're counting on one small caliber round to stop an assailant.
Those 17hmr TNT rounds are made to blow up on entry hence the "TNT" description. Could you use a FMJ 17hmr round 👍🏻
FMJ doesn’t do much better, so fast and so small. We shoot quite a bit of biodegradable range targets (prairie dogs), and the 17 is so small, it normally won’t stop them from getting back to their holes. The 22 WMR will normally drop them where they are. But we shoot a lot of different rounds to compare.
@@moose7472 have you tried the TNT rounds? On those biodegradable targets lol
@@rossgreenzweig yes sir! There is always a nice little puff of red mist with these🤠, but rarely do they drop in their tracks like with the 22WMR
@@moose7472 He is a slow learner LOL. Have you tried the 22 Mag at 200 yrds? Awesome for a .22 cal
@@johnfreels9896 yes sir, just yesterday! 17 vs 22 shoot out with friends, for a week of shooting dogs!
This might tell you more and I like to do this myself !
Pull a bullet out of the 17 HMR and the .22 WMR !
Section each bullet , what you are looking for is bullet jacket thickness which explains a lot why the bullet does what it does ! Bullet performance is not totally velocity alone !
Use a standard file and you can file away enough material to get inside the bullet without pulling the bullet from the case ! I do it both ways !
Great test!
Thanks for watching Dan
Oh yes who tee who good man love videos like this, bit of rimfire action partial towards the 22mag
Bingo!
Thanks for watching!
Great video!!! I don’t know if you already did it or not, but I would like to see the same comparison shooting from 125 & 150 yards. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
We would use the 17 for bunny's. It was a mess. The wind would take them everywhere. It would destroy the wabbit. Longer range 70+ yards with our Kansas wind. I kept my 10/22. We no longer have a 17 in our collection. Never had any issues with the 22mag. Mostly used the 22lr. So this was a great comparison for my eyes. I knew the 17 already. I was surprised on how many jugs the mag went thru. Thank you. I appreciate your demonstrations.
Depends on wind- ammunition type and target
I know this video is old but I have since tried out a bunch of different 22wmr rounds. The TNT versions are much more explosive and lower penetration. A physical comparison, the hollow point cavity is significantly larger than on "regular" hollow points. So I suspect that this also contributed to the 17hmr's lower penetration in this test whereas something like a Vmax might go deeper.
.22 Mag, Hornady 30 grain Vmax bullets, will violently fragment in a 1 gallon water jug. Some pieces will exit, but lack sufficient energy to penetrate a second water jug placed directly behind the first. At 150 yards, bullets perform as a FMJ and will penetrate the second water jug but stop without exiting the second jug. .22 Mag is pretty much a 125 yard gun if you're after expansion. By the time the bullet reaches 150 yards, energy is quite low and has dropped from 290 ft lbs at the muzzle to around 81 ft lbs at 150 yards using the 30 grain Vmax. No experience with the .17 HMR, so I cannot comment on that caliber.
Boy oh boy I learned something today thanks
Thanks for watching Dennis
From an example done by a good friend on squirrels with a 17 HMR : Don't shoot a squirrel while he is on top of a limb or in a fork of a limb 'cause that is where he will be until you or someone else pulls the squirrel of the limb or out of the fork as they die that quickly when shot with a 17 HMR and that is regardless of where the squirrel is shot, body, gut or head. Totally different with a 40 gr. .22 mag except for a head shot.
Amazing how in your other video the 22-250 went through 2 jugs and the 22 mag went through 4! If that's not proof that sometimes slower= more penetration!
Surprised about the .17 hmr but that 22 got it done. Great info. I still like them both.👍
Awesome video bro. I’m thinking about getting either the 17HMR or 22mag for Small Game and Varmint Hunting. Which of these two would you recommend and why? I’m open to either but I’m looking for your advice as to which would be the best choice. Thanks WTW
Love the milk jug tests!
Me too
I am looking forward to this one! Many has been the debate amongst friends about which of these is the better round. Opinions abound and reasons are many. I don’t think we’ll all reach a consensus on this issue but it’s a fun topic to discuss. I’m a 22 WMR guy because I like the thump down range of the larger projectile. Bigger holes donchaknow? I know, I know-velocity yada yada. Tiny bullet go zoom. Bigger bullet still zooms but weighs twice + as much and makes a bigger hole. Plus, I can buy plastic points for the 22 WMR that do what the pointy little guy does, better ballistics and expansion. And here we go, lol!
Appreciate you watching Michael. Results in this one surprised me
@@WHOTEEWHO I always enjoy your videos man! Wifey Wednesday is a hoot, too!
I'd be surprised if the 17 gets through 2 but I'm hoping the 22 mag makes it into third. Interesting test, I always enjoy watching.
Was guessing tripe bone, those maxi squads look good.
17 HMR clearly does not have the same punching power
The results definitely surprised me. Great video.
Surprised me too
A 17 grain bullet compared to a 40 grain bullet. The 40 grain bullet is almost (not quite) three times the mass. If you compared apples to apples the .17 HMR would win hands down. But, you cant find 40 grain .17HMR bullets (no such thing). I think and may be wrong but I think 20 grain HMR bullets are the heaviest they make. I have a friend who shoots deer (illegally) with a 15 grain .17HMR. He drops them dead in their tracks at 50 yards with a head shot. He says that upon examination, the deer skull is full of purple mush after beening shot in the head with a 15 grain .17HMR bullet. Great video. Thank you. John
yess yesss yes ben waiting for this thank you.
Thanks for watching Sindee
Man, I forgot all about the ammo test with the dog treats commercial. We had a red and white beagle like Junior. His name was Milo. Dang I miss that dog.
They are good dogs
Haha no joke I did too I forgot all about the shooting
I got so emotionally invested in trying to figure out which treat Junior was gunna pick that I forgot I was watching a shooting video lol, when you cut back to the range I was like 🤔 wait Theres dogs and guns in this video 😂. Cool video as always WhoTee
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Awesome. I was like the same way. The dogs got my wife interested and it all went south from there. Junior took the one that I thought he would. Had a built in grab handle. T- bone. 22 mag for the win though.
Excellent comparison. Thank you WTW!!!
Thanks for watching Robert!
That 17 dumps its energy hard and fast. The 22 mag surprised me. Looks like you can’t go wrong with either. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Living anywhere from the Mason Dixon Line south, if I could have but only one caliber of bullet and no other ..........it would certainly be the 22 Magnum and for very many reasons! . I have believed so and said so for the last 30 years ! I am also a big believer in CCI Rimfire Ammo for longer than that, use 30 and 40 grain . It pleases me greatly all that I have seen accomplished with this round and a in the many different firearms ! It's not for just anybody but in the hands of marksman..........it's something very special. By the way and not that it matters much but The 22 Magnum round went through 4 of the gallon jugs and into the 5th jug , appearing to have almost punching thru the back of that fifth jug . The 22 mag CCI round has more profound changes in how it reacts on and thru its impact than most other calibers.....like water filled jugs compared to meat and bones or phone books.
I like to see this test with vmax vs vmax
Who have you done this same test with the fmj 20 grain 17hmr and the fmj wmr?
Both of these bullets have similar energy equations. Where the energy of the HMR (137 ft lbs) is from the velocity and the WMR (140 ft lbs) the weight of the bullet. But the design of the HMR bullet allows all the energy transferred out, staying in 1 milk jug. Where as the 22 mag transfers it energy forward with the bullet for better penetration.
For hunting I want that energy in my kill. So critters smaller than coons the HMR is preferred for hunting. For critters like coyotes, a WMR penetration through ribs and such is preferred. But both can do either job.
What can you hunt with the 17 that the 22 wouldn't be better at?
I get it that the 17 can hit something at a greater distance, but what can it make a cleaner kill on?
Paper punching is a means to an end to me.
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The bigger advantage is really in the environment you hunt in. I hunt a lot of alfalfa farm fields and low grass prairie. The extra range and accuracy is great. Easier for kids since there is less bullet lift/drop to account for. When hunting in sage brush, sticks, tall grass, or wind, my friends with a 22 mag have an advantage. The HMR seems too light to get through any of that without ripping it's self apart.
They are so similar they serve the same purpose, a 22 mag is not on my radar to buy. I wouldn't sell or trade my 17 HMR only to get a 22 mag. And my friends with 22 mag love thier guns too. I wouldn't recommend someone switching either, because you are right that neither is really better when it comes to harvesting an animal, or shooting paper.
@@drewhobbs6837
Prairie dogs! I didn't think of that. I don't have that varmint.
I have coyotes, bobcat, coons, and otters for varmints.
I eat the squirrels, rabbits, beavers, and feral hogs I hunt.
Squirrels and rabbits are made for my pellet gun anyway.
My fav gun is my model 93 17r savage. Just put a comb on it this weekend. Only negative is stocks are meant for open sights. Terrible cheek weld. Hawkeye comb and it’s all good.
.5 to .6 moa
I use the 17hmr for dispatch fairly often on the trapliine. I mostly use the cci 20g Fmj. I would like to see a test of any fmj Rimfire ammo.
My findings are penetration is really hitting above its weight class.
Cheers. Love the vids.
I have gained a new respect for the 22 WMR. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching 74willy!
This is exactly why I shoot the 22 mag. Penetration!
Hogs, beaver, coyotes. It always works for me. It’s so much easier to shoot a rimfire at night than a centerfire. I’m not bothering anyone.
When I first saw this in thought yeah so what and by the end yer goofy country charm won me over.. and I learned something . I said the lighter faster would have gone farther but just like Kennedys head it split out split up and just plain split altogether ... i think i found a piece in Arizona. The ballistics of these ranch house workhorses kept me busy with marmots in Ridgeway. We had 14 Arabians and 460 acres 20-30 head tops and it was up by Dennis Weavers. From TV detective McCloud... actually he got started limping for Marshall Dillon's cofee remember? Well we sure put a few down range ... Dads Air Force champion 24 years. The arsenal was..... well what do you want.. I liked the fat barrel 22s .. Super tight groups at any feasible range 100 yards and they never see or hear you. The fat barrel works like a light suppressor ... And the ultimate lengths were more than standard. BSA drop blocks . Even a BDL browning bottom eject auto... remember how accurate they were. Carnival guns were nice. The finest 22 in the world is the Marlin 39A... it was Billy Stewart's carry gun . He held the hi bore title 24 years ...died at 78 and never used a scope... so we came home with a level bed load of ammo in the old green 52 Chevy truck.. Top speed 50....Sore shoulders after the May shoot .. half million rounds of ww2 30;06... to play with . Then the presses and fresh primers on .. million brass half million loaded... why so many Billy ? He grabbed my shirt and pulled me close and said...korea son. Chosin Reservoir then a full length retreat... he said about half million bodies in a few days. Maybe double no one knew. They kept coming ... I know a cowboy named Ringo... I worked double o and ORO with him... he has citations for killing more men than anyone in history. It was unreal. He carried the box clip Winchester 1905 and a Hawes 44mag single action cowboy gun. Showed me where we bury the rustlers when I was 13...its a serious business out there alone. The only time we took em off was sleep and cook shack. Pat Murphy would throw something heavy...and wash yer plate or go pick eggs and milk at 4am ... all week.. I blew the eye out of a quail at 80 yards with the sheriff rangemasters snubby chief. He missed both barrels.. only bird we had a shot at all day ! Years went by and the Ambassador bought out Charlie Green . Out of the marines I'm living in Charlie Grens mansion...playing the queens piano and Kissinger and Chase finished the China Accords and flew in... Richard beat me 6 of 6 at chess... maybe that's why he owns that big bank. So I'm 66 and never killed anybody... never have to with Ringo... yer in the rocking chair... in yavapai county with the cattleman association and miners fully in charge I would make any bet... not a jury would convict... he had the real license to kill. That license weighs a hundred pounds and ya gotta wear it around yer neck... or it's no good ya know. Hes the only guy I knew could carry it... Arizona Republic Valley State section Aug. 26. 1970 Headline picture is Ringo on the courthouse plaza looking across at his new 1969 white chevy truck. About 30 feet from his guns hanging in the window. 100 feet from the palace bar.. where I've lost many classmates to gunfights playing John Wayne. They didnt put the bar back up after the 2005 fire ... just a restaurant and the horse above the doorway was put to pasture too... thank god that stuff is over.. July 19. 1995 is his obituary Prescott Courier... this was a really tough smart human being.... I can barely comprehend... that such men in great numbers existed... he should really have gotten the congressional medal of honor.... then that medal would REALLY mean something... upgrade it with his presence... I rode the ORO with Ringo... wow !
Sweet video....I'm a 22 mag guy over the 17 myself but I sure didn't think the mag would have done that.....Now I know....I just love shooting my Uberti stallion 5.5 revolver in 22 mag.