Great review. I'm happy with the results you shared. Hornady makes 22 mag in 30 grain that travels at 2250 ft per second. I'd like to see how those hit a coconut.
If you wanna save fur damage use a FMJ. The 17 doesn't have the penetration of the 22mag but is flatter shooting. I have owned both and find the 22 mag more useful for my needs. Squirrel decapitation is common with the 17 HMR. Shot anywhere else there's nothing left for the frying pan. I use a Gamo Swarm magnum out to 50 yards. 22lr is good out to 75 yards still reasonably flat shooting. The 22 mag can cover out to around 150 yard using MPBR on about a 2 inch target. Hitting the top of the target close and the bottom at 150. Holding dead center. Excellent for varmints with no hold over or turret adjustment for elevation. Wind on the other hand is the enemy at extended range. Calmer days this setting is outstanding.
Great review. I’m getting back into firearms, I’m an Army Airborne Veteran from Ft.Bragg. I wanted to start introducing my 19 year old Son and 15 year old daughter how to shoot. I think the .22 is the perfect way to go.
Thanks very much for the video comparing the performance of 17HMR and the .22MAG. I was pleased to see that the 17HMR did as well as it did against the 22MAG (and especially out to 200 yards). Both are solid performing rim fire rounds.
The .17 hmr continues to surprise me to this day a hella lot of shell on a small round. Both fun to shoot and watched my grandpa drop deer regularly with a .22 mag ( he didnt care much for laws) 😂
I use a 17 over 22 mag for one reason. When dealing with woodchucks I don't have to worry as much about hitting things behind my target because of pass through. With extremely thin jacketed rounds it enters and pretty much explodes.
You can achieve similar results with 22mag using a 30 to 32 grain TNT projectile (which just means a larger cavity hollow point) but still have the versatility to use regular HP in many sizes, up to 50gr, or fmj as your application changes. I also carry DOPE cards for each type of round I have so I can quickly estimate hold over/under if I'm switching between different rounds. I typically don't take anything much past about 80 yards though, most often under 50.
Great video, I couldn't decide between the 2 and I went with the savage 93r17 minimalist 17hmr for my Christmas present and then my dad just gave me his old mossberg chuckster 640ka 22mag yesterday so I wil now have both.
Hmmm... I have a 22wmr on my list of future rifle purchases. After watching this I may need to reevaluate. I like what I'm seeing in that 17. Good shooting!
Well i bought the 22 mag got matching pistol. The extra weight i figure will penetrate coyote better. Great vid esp longer range. Still considering the 17
Thanks bud. I love both cartridges. If I were just to get 1 just for coyotes I'd have to go with 22mag. Iv killed a few with a 17hmr but they usually run for 40 yards unless u hit them in the head.
I think some what between 250 and 300 mts would give the .17HMR a broader advantage difference in terms of residual energy and precision . Excellent video !!
.22 mag has more fpe at all ranges, the .17 has a very light bullet that bleeds its speed relatively quickly, at no distance can it overcome the more than double mass of the .22
just got the same ammo delivered for my Heritage rough rider with the 22 mag cylinder can't wait to try it. I did have a hell of a time trying to find it in stock though.
I bought mine right after the lockdown, it was hard to find.Love the poor mans colt as some people call it.Im also cosidering the rancher,wish it came in 22 mag though.I only own revolvers,love fanning them,although its hard on a cylinder,its a blast.I guess i have watched too many westerns.Heritage makes quality firearms for the price.My only gripe is fixed sights,shoots a little to the right.I found out that although you cant adjust the sights,you can rotate the barrel,which did the trick.Im going to buy another one with a cross draw holster,and the black satin grips.
I love the 22mag ! I just gets the job done. Saying that I just don’t have enough little critters in my neck of the woods to require the 17. However the misus has her 22lr in the shop right now getting a 20cal squeeze bore 22lr barrel made & fitted. 1:10 twist to stabilise 40 , 45 & 60gr bullets .
Great video! Been thinking about a 17 WSM, maybe I'll stick with my 22 mag. Have a night scope setup for yotes that doesn't miss at 150 yards. Cheaper to shoot too.
Thanks, my friend. Nice work. I got 22cal, in the blood. But that Marlin 917v bull barrel, will hit dimes All day. :). But l got the 17cal, when first introduced. Was designed to help save the pelt damage.
I think the 17 is a little flatter shooting which I like for groundhogs. I hold a hair off the fur at 150! Wind is always a big concern though! After 150 I use 22 center fire!
Great video. I think the bullet has more explosive properties as velocity drops into the sweet spot with the 17. Anything below a certain distance doesn't allow the expansion.
I knew the 17 was a fast round, but as the author pointed out....the bullets is a light weight. Considering that, it did a lot of damage to the coconut at 200 yards. Don't need to sell me on the 2 mag. Very under rated.
Heard background noise in video that sounded like some of the "alien" sounds they used in the old sci-fi movies,was this deliberate or was it you tube?Would like to see same test done with ballistics gel.
how come nobody brings up nor shoots the cci maxi-mag & the hp+v in the 22mag that has 2200 fps? ive had both and there both awesome!.. but the 22 mag especially with 2200fps ammo hits harder and bucks the wind better
Ya definitely need to try a bunch of different ammo, but it's tough to find right now. I may be wrong but I think the 22mag I used in this video was the maxi mag. I can't remember, thanks for watchin !
Need to get a ruger rpr in .17hmr and see the difference from 300 to 600 it’s amazing the energy it Carries down range. Killed several deer at 400 with the hmr head shots
I like the 22 mag for plinking. The 17 mag doesn’t have enough energy for dropping my pop up targets at distance. 22 mag rounds are cheaper also. 17gr ballistics vaporize gophers though. I never came across 22 mag 25gr or 50gr to experiment with yet. I think 22 mag offers more versatility.
@@Lowballinoutdoorz 100m damages it. 150m won’t budge it. Never bothered trying in between. It’s easier to just use the 22 mag. 22 mag also rings my gong loud enough over 200m to hear.
Interesting video and results. I once shot a Rabbit in the neck at about 15 yards with a 17HMR and it zipped straight through, absolutely no expansion, it looked like a 177 air rifle wound. I've decapitated them at 50 yards with 17HMR. I think It's a little inconsistent in it's expansion but it always kills small vermin sized critters and the flatter trajectory is an absolute god send when shooting out in open areas with nowhere to hide/stalk in, but when you get into reaching out to those seriously long shots, around the 250-300 yard mark the 17HMR is so much easier to work with than 22MAG. They both have their uses, I think 22MAG is better for Fox/Coyote sized critters within 100 yards than pretty much anything else available. 17HMR is a Rabbit/Ground Hog sniper rifle.
300 with a .17hmr? I like to see that kill. Its energy at that distance would be less than throwing a rock. Theres a video or two but it never shows a shot of any kind, just a dude saying that he did it lol! They both are good but I have more faith in the 22mag. 22mag has more energy/power any range!
Sitting in my S-10 in the shade with my Kimber 82 Classic .22 WMR waiting for the chuck to come back out and this comes up on CZcams. Does it know what I'm doing?
I’ve killed 4 coyotes with my Savage 17HMR and dropped them all all the spot, my dad has also killed two with it , Mine were all within 100 yards and my dads were at 150 give or take, pretty impressive for such a small round!
It's a fine line, where I am it's the hornady or the winchester super x hollow points, my cz will shoot a lot tighter groups with the hornady and fliers are very rare. Slightly more energy is meaningless if the round doesn't hit. Gotta find what your gun shoots well and stick with them if you can.
Also, put at least 3 rounds in any "target" remember that H&K came up with 17 cal round with careless Ammo for it's G3 assault rife they work on thier advanced infantry fighting weapon back in the 1980's
The rifle barrels and stock setups are in need of explanation also, please address this also. Any old gun off the shelf doesn't mean 3/4" groups at 150.
Well, both of these rifles were stock off the shelf savages. The 17hmr was the heavy barrel with accutrigger and the 22wmr was the minimalist stock. Nothin special
@@Lowballinoutdoorz I had an old flat screen tv that I shot with both. The 20 gr fmjs went through it like nothing... the hollow points did not make it through.
I think a hard target doesn't represent the 17hmr potential. It's designed for soft targets. I'd love to see this test on ballistic gel. My best bet is the heavier .22 will just create a stream line wound, where the 17hmr would actually have a more devastating/expansive wound channel.
outdoor adventures CZcams channel does some testing "17hmr vs 17wsm vs 17 hornet" into clay which really shows how the energy is delivered by these rounds plus WHO_TEE_WHO did one called "17hmr vs 22mag - CLAY BLOCKS!!!" good demonstrations.
@Lowballinoutdoorz Ruger made a 17 HMR revolver. It is a great firearm. Bear Creek Arsenal makes a very affordable 17 HMR upper that has a 20-inch Stainless Steel barrel solid and very accurate. It's much cheaper than the Alexander Arms rifle, and you can get 15 round magazines for the rifle Vs 10 and they are the same dimensions as a standard 20 round 223 Remington/ 5.56 x 45 magazine.
Evil coconut got a deserved punishment , impressive for such a small projectile, looks like at 200 yds there is more tumble effect that’s why it rips them evil coconut apart
Great video except that awful background "music" that sounded more like sound effects from the Jetsons. I was just as surprised as you that both of those had that kind of power even at 200 yards.
Some idiot got a video out shooting squirrels to show his viewers what damage that 17 hmr shooting A17 ammo. I glad you are humane and shot coconuts instead. Great video 👍
Big scope and tons of practice, you could probly hit big targets. Wind will definitely have a huge impact at that range. It would be definitely a cool project!!! If yabgive it a try let me know how it does.. I may have to as well haha. Thanks for watchin
@@Lowballinoutdoorz not trying to scare you, but I have predicted more than one heart attack, wouldn't hurt to have a stress test performed, we need you around to make more videos lol.
17 is awesome, the energy dump from the expansion is what makes it so good. The bb sized bullet explodes or disintegrates on impact; so... Although the .22 mag has more energy/power across the board. People always caught up on speed lol, but the mass accounts for way more. Heavier has more energy 99% of the time! Science & math doesn't lie or have favorites. Fact is 22mag will always have more energy no matter the distance & give a lot more penetration than 17hmr!! Faster bullets sound really good but that's all, they have to be lighter to increase the speed & that's no good; just sounds cool. Like all the lead free ammo is super fast bc its really light & they try to use speed to pick up the slack.
@@rocknraptor3195 agree 100% I use both calibers for different stuff.. I do like way less drop at distance with 17 for small critters. But for larger critters I'll pick up my 22mag haha
Nice comparison between the 17 HMR and the 22 magnum. And as great as the 17 is, to be fair though had you compared similar grains that would ‘HAVE’ been a more even keeled comparison. But comparing a 30 grain and a 17 grain against each other really is unfair to one of them in one aspect and unfair to the other in other aspects. Next time try even grains and let’s see what happens.
I mean they really don't make heavy grain 17hmr bullets like the heaviest iv ever seen has been 20gn... but iv not seen either bullet on the shelves in awhile. Thanks for watchin bud
@@Lowballinoutdoorz I’d have to check my supply, as much as I love the 17 I cannot remember the highest grain in it. And yea since china’s gift to us, covid, like a lot of calibers 17 has become impossible to find but lately it’s been showing up at cabela’s and other store albeit a much higher price than before, like $5 to $8 higher
Great review. I'm happy with the results you shared. Hornady makes 22 mag in 30 grain that travels at 2250 ft per second. I'd like to see how those hit a coconut.
That would be cool for sure!!
@Trapper’s Dad I bet!!
If you wanna save fur damage use a FMJ. The 17 doesn't have the penetration of the 22mag but is flatter shooting. I have owned both and find the 22 mag more useful for my needs. Squirrel decapitation is common with the 17 HMR. Shot anywhere else there's nothing left for the frying pan. I use a Gamo Swarm magnum out to 50 yards. 22lr is good out to 75 yards still reasonably flat shooting. The 22 mag can cover out to around 150 yard using MPBR on about a 2 inch target. Hitting the top of the target close and the bottom at 150. Holding dead center. Excellent for varmints with no hold over or turret adjustment for elevation. Wind on the other hand is the enemy at extended range. Calmer days this setting is outstanding.
Experience I like it!!
Weight > velocity
Great review. I’m getting back into firearms, I’m an Army Airborne Veteran from Ft.Bragg. I wanted to start introducing my 19 year old Son and 15 year old daughter how to shoot. I think the .22 is the perfect way to go.
22 is definitely the way to go!! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
I think you are correct!
Thanks for your service..and teaching your kids are to shoot ...stay bless
Thanks very much for the video comparing the performance of 17HMR and the .22MAG. I was pleased to see that the 17HMR did as well as it did against the 22MAG (and especially out to 200 yards). Both are solid performing rim fire rounds.
Haha, thanks for watchin!!
@messenger ministries very nice
Very true
The .17 hmr continues to surprise me to this day a hella lot of shell on a small round. Both fun to shoot and watched my grandpa drop deer regularly with a .22 mag ( he didnt care much for laws) 😂
Hahaha
Really appreciates your effort to walk and back in reviewing the impact..thank you so much...👍😍
Thanks !!
Outstanding job on this video brother, darn good shooting. I personally prefer the .22 Magnum but that .17 HMR is no slouch either. 👍
Thanks bud. Yabi like um both for diffrent reasons
Add 4, and 5 hundred yards!
My thoughts, exactly. No slouch, at all, fine shooting and thorough video.
Grace and Peace
Thanks buddy
@@Lowballinoutdoorz You're welcome brother
Thanks for the great video. I just purchased a CZ in 17hmr and very excited to shoot it. Don’t have a 22 magnum but maybe one day. Thanks again
Robb
Thanks for watchin!! Man I love cz rifles! You have an amazing rifle enjoy!! Punching holes or huntin critters 17hmr will getter done!
I use a 17 over 22 mag for one reason. When dealing with woodchucks I don't have to worry as much about hitting things behind my target because of pass through. With extremely thin jacketed rounds it enters and pretty much explodes.
Very true, that is a good reason!!
You can achieve similar results with 22mag using a 30 to 32 grain TNT projectile (which just means a larger cavity hollow point) but still have the versatility to use regular HP in many sizes, up to 50gr, or fmj as your application changes. I also carry DOPE cards for each type of round I have so I can quickly estimate hold over/under if I'm switching between different rounds. I typically don't take anything much past about 80 yards though, most often under 50.
Plus it actually expands out past 150 yards..
I used 17hmr at 200 yards for ground hogs this year I was totally impressed! Very accurate and the little guy felt no pain !
Good deal!! Thanks for watchin
Thanks for the comparison. I like both of 'em.
O ya me as well!!
Great side by side comparison! Very informative!
Thanks man
Good video you definitely got your exercise in that day I have both calibers and I love them both
Haha yup. Me to I love um both
I just like the way you manage to hang the coconut on the metal frame 🤣🤣, no matter where we are ,commonly it’s part of the shooting sport .
Love these type of videos 👍👍
Thanks
Never really knew how to open a coconut now I do.Thanks
Haha yup, that's the fun way! Thanks for stopping bye
Great video, I couldn't decide between the 2 and I went with the savage 93r17 minimalist 17hmr for my Christmas present and then my dad just gave me his old mossberg chuckster 640ka 22mag yesterday so I wil now have both.
Haha lov it.. havin both is my choice.. pretty cool one was your dad's, lov when pew pews get past down.
Great video. I love the .22 mag.
Solid choice! Thanks for watchin bud!
Yeah man !! That's some damage for such a lite round... can't wait to get mine - think I'm gonna start with the 22WMR ....
Great choice!
Ppl do not realise that the 22
Mag will , fu* k you up !
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Hmmm... I have a 22wmr on my list of future rifle purchases. After watching this I may need to reevaluate. I like what I'm seeing in that 17. Good shooting!
Hey bud. They are both awesome shooters. They both have there place. And that's the excuse I use to have both hahaha
Great video brotha !!
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Thanks buddy
Great video mate. From Oz👍
Thanks bud!!!
Thank you very much for such a quality comparison between these two rimfire rifles, but I'll take the 22WMR over the 17HMR anytime.
Very nice!
Well i bought the 22 mag got matching pistol. The extra weight i figure will penetrate coyote better. Great vid esp longer range. Still considering the 17
Thanks bud. I love both cartridges. If I were just to get 1 just for coyotes I'd have to go with 22mag. Iv killed a few with a 17hmr but they usually run for 40 yards unless u hit them in the head.
I think some what between 250 and 300 mts would give the .17HMR a broader advantage difference in terms of residual energy and precision . Excellent video !!
.22 mag has more fpe at all ranges, the .17 has a very light bullet that bleeds its speed relatively quickly, at no distance can it overcome the more than double mass of the .22
No, futher you go, all things being equal, bullet with more weight, retains energy better at distance.
Good job and some good shooting thanks man
Thanks brother!
just got the same ammo delivered for my Heritage rough rider with the 22 mag cylinder can't wait to try it. I did have a hell of a time trying to find it in stock though.
O man I hear that! It's been tough to find anything. Glad ya get to feed your rough rider!!
Did you get the Rough rider with the 16" barrel?
I bought mine right after the lockdown, it was hard to find.Love the poor mans colt as some people call it.Im also cosidering the rancher,wish it came in 22 mag though.I only own revolvers,love fanning them,although its hard on a cylinder,its a blast.I guess i have watched too many westerns.Heritage makes quality firearms for the price.My only gripe is fixed sights,shoots a little to the right.I found out that although you cant adjust the sights,you can rotate the barrel,which did the trick.Im going to buy another one with a cross draw holster,and the black satin grips.
@@FangBlah No, The 4.75 I believe.
I love my rough rider as well, mine shot to the left haha.
Damn good shootin brother 🤘🏼🖤
Thanks bud!
That's pretty impressive hitting at 200 yards, another impressive thing is both are still packing a punch at that distance.
Yup. Thanks for watchin
These 2 are made for distance..damn snipers
Nice contact I always look for content like this when far distance not close range
Thanks for watchin!!
Ah yes... The most debated debate of all debates!!! 17HMR vs 22WMR
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Awesome video, thank you.
Haha yup, thanks for watchin
I love the 22mag ! I just gets the job done. Saying that I just don’t have enough little critters in my neck of the woods to require the 17.
However the misus has her 22lr in the shop right now getting a 20cal squeeze bore 22lr barrel made & fitted.
1:10 twist to stabilise 40 , 45 & 60gr bullets .
Very nice sounds like a cool project! Let me know how it turns out!!
You're a pretty good shot there. Impressive.
Thank ya!!
Great video! Been thinking about a 17 WSM, maybe I'll stick with my 22 mag. Have a night scope setup for yotes that doesn't miss at 150 yards. Cheaper to shoot too.
Awesome! Iv never messed with a 17wsm. The 22mag has enough juice to do the job for sure at 150, if ya can find ammo. Thanks for watch bud!
Thanks, my friend. Nice work.
I got 22cal, in the blood. But that
Marlin 917v bull barrel, will hit dimes All day. :). But l got the 17cal, when first introduced. Was designed to help save the pelt damage.
Nice, I'm a 22 freak as well. But I do love the 17 there super accurate and fun
I think the 17 is a little flatter shooting which I like for groundhogs. I hold a hair off the fur at 150! Wind is always a big concern though! After 150 I use 22 center fire!
Great choices!! Sounds like ya got a plan
thank you for the very good informative video
Thanks for watchin
Great stuff!
Thanks!
Great video. I think the bullet has more explosive properties as velocity drops into the sweet spot with the 17. Anything below a certain distance doesn't allow the expansion.
Thanks!!
I knew the 17 was a fast round, but as the author pointed out....the bullets is a light weight. Considering that, it did a lot of damage to the coconut at 200 yards.
Don't need to sell me on the 2 mag. Very under rated.
I use a ruger american 22wmr for coyotes around my chickens. Drops them on the spot, had one run maybe 10 feet.
A man with a plan! I like it
Great Review!
Thanks!!
Great video ! I guess the question becomes which one will fly better in the wind and which one is more accurate?
Haha that is the traid off
Good example why you shouldn’t underestimate the power of a .22
So true
Good exercise!😀
Great video
Thanks!
That 22 mag is a beautiful rifle 🤤
Thanks bud, shoots purty too
Thanks great Video
Thanks for stopping bye!!
Heard background noise in video that sounded like some of the "alien" sounds they used in the old sci-fi movies,was this deliberate or was it you tube?Would like to see same test done with ballistics gel.
The sounds were probly just feedback
how come nobody brings up nor shoots the cci maxi-mag & the hp+v in the 22mag that has 2200 fps? ive had both and there both awesome!.. but the 22 mag especially with 2200fps ammo hits harder and bucks the wind better
Ya definitely need to try a bunch of different ammo, but it's tough to find right now. I may be wrong but I think the 22mag I used in this video was the maxi mag. I can't remember, thanks for watchin !
Need to get a ruger rpr in .17hmr and see the difference from 300 to 600 it’s amazing the energy it Carries down range. Killed several deer at 400 with the hmr head shots
I would like to get an rpr for sure!!
NO MAS PRUEBAS...22MAG. GRACIAS! desde Argentina te saludo! Abrazo 🤗
I find it cool that we both go the the same range!
Super kool! If yabsee me stop and say hi
@@Lowballinoutdoorz sweet
@@Lowballinoutdoorz what’s your favorite gun?
Hahahaha all of them!! Haha I am partial to bolt rifles. Fromm 22lr to much bigger haha
I like the 22 mag for plinking. The 17 mag doesn’t have enough energy for dropping my pop up targets at distance. 22 mag rounds are cheaper also. 17gr ballistics vaporize gophers though. I never came across 22 mag 25gr or 50gr to experiment with yet. I think 22 mag offers more versatility.
Cool, when have you found the energy loss for the 17hmr? I'm a fan of both haha
@@Lowballinoutdoorz 100m damages it. 150m won’t budge it. Never bothered trying in between. It’s easier to just use the 22 mag. 22 mag also rings my gong loud enough over 200m to hear.
Really? That's cool. That's why I like both, each have there purpose.
Wow amazing
I replaced my 12 gauge Turkey shotgun with my 17HMR. Base of the neck shots put them out instantly and no BB's in my Turkey dinner.
Very nice.. here I'm missouri we have to use shotguns
Interesting video and results.
I once shot a Rabbit in the neck at about 15 yards with a 17HMR and it zipped straight through, absolutely no expansion, it looked like a 177 air rifle wound.
I've decapitated them at 50 yards with 17HMR.
I think It's a little inconsistent in it's expansion but it always kills small vermin sized critters and the flatter trajectory is an absolute god send when shooting out in open areas with nowhere to hide/stalk in, but when you get into reaching out to those seriously long shots, around the 250-300 yard mark the 17HMR is so much easier to work with than 22MAG.
They both have their uses, I think 22MAG is better for Fox/Coyote sized critters within 100 yards than pretty much anything else available. 17HMR is a Rabbit/Ground Hog sniper rifle.
Iv had the same results on live critters! Thanks
300 with a .17hmr? I like to see that kill. Its energy at that distance would be less than throwing a rock. Theres a video or two but it never shows a shot of any kind, just a dude saying that he did it lol!
They both are good but I have more faith in the 22mag. 22mag has more energy/power any range!
Energy at 300 yards is still over 1000. Enough to handle small critters.
Sitting in my S-10 in the shade with my Kimber 82 Classic .22 WMR waiting for the chuck to come back out and this comes up on CZcams. Does it know what I'm doing?
Hahahahahhaha probly so
I’ve killed 4 coyotes with my Savage 17HMR and dropped them all all the spot, my dad has also killed two with it , Mine were all within 100 yards and my dads were at 150 give or take, pretty impressive for such a small round!
I find the 30gr vmax load at around 2200fps out of the wmr ticks all the boxes.
Very nice
Yea it does good but the slower 40gr rounds have more energy/power. Heavier wins 99% of the time!
@@rocknraptor3195 I usually use the 40g myself
It's a fine line, where I am it's the hornady or the winchester super x hollow points, my cz will shoot a lot tighter groups with the hornady and fliers are very rare. Slightly more energy is meaningless if the round doesn't hit. Gotta find what your gun shoots well and stick with them if you can.
You are the guy that ruined my lawnmower blade with the coconuts!!!
Haha I try
17 cracking all rounder love mine for small vermin 👍
Very nice!
Also, put at least 3 rounds in any "target" remember that H&K came up with 17 cal round with careless Ammo for it's G3 assault rife they work on thier advanced infantry fighting weapon back in the 1980's
Love both of them but prefer the 22 mag . Have taken a few coyotes with the 22 mag and it drops them right on the spot (within 100 yards)
I like ur style
What kind of rifle is that that takes both 17 HMR AND 22 magnum? And, what other rifles/ guns can shoot both as well? Thanks! 😁
Both of the rifles in the video were savage 93. You can't shoot both out of one rifle. Cz makes a switch barrel
CZ 457
I have that same Savage model 93 in 22mag any feeding issues?
Not anymore. Slightly bend the rear feed lips and that fixes the problem.
The rifle barrels and stock setups are in need of explanation also, please address this also. Any old gun off the shelf doesn't mean 3/4" groups at 150.
Well, both of these rifles were stock off the shelf savages. The 17hmr was the heavy barrel with accutrigger and the 22wmr was the minimalist stock. Nothin special
Iv shot several savage 93's with heavy barrel all of them shot exceptionally well. Hope that helps.
I much prefer the 20 gr fmj over the 17 gr hollow point.
I'm gonna havento give them a try
@@Lowballinoutdoorz I had an old flat screen tv that I shot with both. The 20 gr fmjs went through it like nothing... the hollow points did not make it through.
Eu também.
@@panamared3681 The 20gr hornady xtp bullet is quite nice, it offers more penetration and an expanding, not exploding bullet.
I have both and prefer the 22 mag. It’s a nasty little round.
For sure, thanks for watchin
I think a hard target doesn't represent the 17hmr potential. It's designed for soft targets. I'd love to see this test on ballistic gel. My best bet is the heavier .22 will just create a stream line wound, where the 17hmr would actually have a more devastating/expansive wound channel.
Good thaughts
outdoor adventures CZcams channel does some testing "17hmr vs 17wsm vs 17 hornet" into clay which really shows how the energy is delivered by these rounds plus WHO_TEE_WHO did one called "17hmr vs 22mag - CLAY BLOCKS!!!" good demonstrations.
@JettBlast I love outdoor edventures!! Thanks for stopping bye!!
@Lowballinoutdoorz Ruger made a 17 HMR revolver. It is a great firearm. Bear Creek Arsenal makes a very affordable 17 HMR upper that has a 20-inch Stainless Steel barrel solid and very accurate. It's much cheaper than the Alexander Arms rifle, and you can get 15 round magazines for the rifle Vs 10 and they are the same dimensions as a standard 20 round 223 Remington/ 5.56 x 45 magazine.
@JettBlast I appreciate your comment so much lol. I've been looking for that for ever!
I’ve been squirrel hunting with a 22 mag for 40 years. Using fmj it’s awesome. I won’t change
Ain't nothin wrong with that!! Thanks for watchin
@@Lowballinoutdoorz did mean to say there was. Sorry sir. Take care
Take care Bill
Both great rounds. The 22 mag has a punch but flat trajectory and pure velocity of the. 17hmr wins for me.
Very nice!
Love my Henry 22 mag. Have shot the 17 plenty. I have better results with the 22 mag as far as knocking critters dead but the 17 is a sweet round
For sure
I like this video...👍👍👍
Thanks for watchin
Thanks
Thanks for watchin!!
Excellent video, but which one is better?
I love them both... I use 17 for anything smaller then a coyote. 22 mag will include yotes.. personal choice really..
.17 HMR hollow point or ballistic tip?
I wonder why they can’t make a 22 cal bullet pointed like the 17 HMR. Wouldn’t it make it a more aerodynamic round for target shooting.
I have a few tipped 22wmr but iv not seenany in years. Thanks for watchin Michael
Just got me the HK 300 wmr..
Is it any good compared to other magnums?
I wish I could tell ya iv never owned an hk sorry.
Let us know how she runs!! I would love to know
@@Lowballinoutdoorz Thanks man. Will do.
Evil coconut got a deserved punishment , impressive for such a small projectile, looks like at 200 yds there is more tumble effect that’s why it rips them evil coconut apart
Hahha ya very true..
I applied for coconut tag here in Pennsylvania but I didn't get it
Hahahahahahahah... I think there on the points system... keep applying! Thanks for watchin bud!
AweSomE!🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thanks bud
The 22 wmr are definitely my favourite
Definitely a good one!!
Did you use the same rifle for both cartridges?
Both savage 93.
Yep, if you're hunting coconuts, these are the guns for you.
Haha yup
I have always believed the .22 mag has more killing power than the numbers say.
However, if you didn't edit it out that was some damn good shooting!
Thanks... I love them both.. it was hard to do with a 9x scope
Regarding your drop at 200 yards, you probably meant 8 MOA drop being 16 inches rather than 8 inches. R
Great video except that awful background "music" that sounded more like sound effects from the Jetsons.
I was just as surprised as you that both of those had that kind of power even at 200 yards.
Some idiot got a video out shooting squirrels to show his viewers what damage that 17 hmr shooting A17 ammo. I glad you are humane and shot coconuts instead. Great video 👍
Thanks bud!
You don’t have to watch a guy shoot Squrriels. Only an Idiot would watch that if they don’t like animals being killed. Are You That Idiot?😁
FUN!
Yes it was thanks for stopping by
Do you think 22 magnum can make easy with 500 yards ?
Big scope and tons of practice, you could probly hit big targets. Wind will definitely have a huge impact at that range. It would be definitely a cool project!!! If yabgive it a try let me know how it does.. I may have to as well haha. Thanks for watchin
I have the same gun as you but mine is chambered in 17 instead of 22 mag
Very nice!
Have you ever had a stress test performed, very serious question.
Haha ya no joke. My boy was with me that day. We were racing putting up the nutz.. probly all said and done ran 1000 yards haha
@@Lowballinoutdoorz not trying to scare you, but I have predicted more than one heart attack, wouldn't hurt to have a stress test performed, we need you around to make more videos lol.
@@donaldatkinson7937 thanks
Can you try 400 ? I world like to see it. 17 HMR & 22 M ...
Great idea!! My normal range only has 200 so I'd have to find a spot. But sounds fun
You’re too funny - lmao , but so worth watching 🤓
Haha thanks
Funny how? Fun like a clown!!
@@MB-uw4xr haha I'm gonna take that like a complement haha
I'll take my 17 all day over my 22 the difference is the speed that the 17 travels I've basically retired my 22 since getting my 17
Awesome!
17 is awesome, the energy dump from the expansion is what makes it so good. The bb sized bullet explodes or disintegrates on impact; so... Although the .22 mag has more energy/power across the board. People always caught up on speed lol, but the mass accounts for way more. Heavier has more energy 99% of the time! Science & math doesn't lie or have favorites. Fact is 22mag will always have more energy no matter the distance & give a lot more penetration than 17hmr!!
Faster bullets sound really good but that's all, they have to be lighter to increase the speed & that's no good; just sounds cool. Like all the lead free ammo is super fast bc its really light & they try to use speed to pick up the slack.
@@rocknraptor3195 agree 100% I use both calibers for different stuff.. I do like way less drop at distance with 17 for small critters. But for larger critters I'll pick up my 22mag haha
Same
@@MetalDetroit 17 is just fun like a mini ar
Nice comparison between the 17 HMR and the 22 magnum. And as great as the 17 is, to be fair though had you compared similar grains that would ‘HAVE’ been a more even keeled comparison. But comparing a 30 grain and a 17 grain against each other really is unfair to one of them in one aspect and unfair to the other in other aspects. Next time try even grains and let’s see what happens.
I mean they really don't make heavy grain 17hmr bullets like the heaviest iv ever seen has been 20gn... but iv not seen either bullet on the shelves in awhile. Thanks for watchin bud
@@Lowballinoutdoorz I’d have to check my supply, as much as I love the 17 I cannot remember the highest grain in it. And yea since china’s gift to us, covid, like a lot of calibers 17 has become impossible to find but lately it’s been showing up at cabela’s and other store albeit a much higher price than before, like $5 to $8 higher
No bs love it
Haha thanks
Havnt met a person yet that hasnt missed
Haha true
Try the hornady 30 gr v max 22 mag.
Definitely want too. Ammo supply is limited here... but it is on my list. Thanks
HORNADY 30 v max 22mag out of the marlin xt. Is hell on the coyotes. Just try the headshots!!!
@@jeffmontgomery1905 My Marlin doesn't group good with them
Sounds good
Would have rather seen the same but using ballistic gel
I enjoy shooting both rounds. Can't seem to find a pistol in .17 that holds 30 rounds. Oh well.
I lov um both as well