We Fire the Wrong Calibers Through The Wrong Guns
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I feel like I’ve seen this somewhere before, but I can’t seem to put my thumb on it 😂
It's not a .600 nitro express revolver...but it'll do for now
You mean, you can't put your thumb in it.
When are you going to visit Idaho? 😆
🤔🤔🤔
I just hear the whip sound lol
Not the first time you've stuck something where it didn't belong....
Real
That one's for the brown stuff to come out
Speaking from experience?
@@UnknownOpsyes!
No such thing as a wrong hole with the right woman
4:18 Fudd's Life Hacks: Load the last (first loaded, last to fire) round of your AR-15 mags with .300 Blackout, that way your gun will automatically eject the magazine when you fire the last round.
Tarkov tip: keep a 300 blackout mag with a few 556 on top so whoever kills you suffers
@@UnknownGamer40464 Not sure if that works in Tarkov, but it'd be super sound. Guy takes you life, but you take his too.
The thing with the .50 is its a bottleneck round but in the shotgun the case blows up and looks like a shotgun shell after shooting, so by blowing up the case the pressure is probably waaay less than in a proper weapon for that cartridge
Almost like firing it without a barrel... nothing to maintain pressure behind the bullet after it leaves the brass so the force just dissipates in the void around it. Wonder what the difference in chronograph readings would have been?
@@danielhowell2075 i am pretty sure it approaches non lethal speeds.
@herbert164 one way to find out
There is an ATF agent somewhere trying to figure out if firing a .50 out of a 12g is a felony and if not how they can make it one.
The ATF's goal is to make firing anything a felony, including firing a .22 out of a .22.
@@Nurse_Xochitl 🙄
@@silvermainecoons3269 yeah but you know he's right
@@Starside79 I’ve never had any encounters with the ATF so I’ll take your word for it.
@@silvermainecoons3269 Consider yourself lucky.
I work at a gun range and a guy put a mag of 300 blk into his 5.56 which destroyed his upper and magazine. An hour later in the same lane, a guy found some ammo on the ground and put it through his 5.56. It was ammo from the first ar that blew up that day, so it also blew up his rifle. 2 rifles blown up in the same lane an hour apart from the same box of ammo.
Nice 👍🏻
how can people be so dull-edged to try and shoot a fat bullet in a skinny barrel, just because it fits.
@@gavinrobinson8925 how can you be so stupid to just use ammo on the ground either??? Like both people who got their 5.56 blown up definitely need to get their act together.
That second guy really, truly learned that actions have consequences
Why pick up ammo from the ground and shoot it? It could be a dud and they are kinda dangerous…
13:16 Micah, these are probably the most valuable words you've said. I know your usual content adds humor, but this certainly added value.
Totally agree!
‘I can’t live without you’. He put everything he had into that line. Hilarious.
You should’ve had a ballistic dummy in front to see the lethality of the 50
This
I don't think it would be lethal, it will probably just bounce off, but ballistic dummies are pretty soft in summer.
If it fits it fits
@drshoe8744 i think youre crazy lol its still a round fired out of a gun and though slow it was still getting it in slo mo
If it’s even lethal you’d likely be better off just using .22lr. There’s essentially no chamber pressure behind the round (if there was the shotgun would blow up Kentucky ballistics style)
I love how the .50 in the 12 gauge worked. the fireball came out and then the .50 projectile was like "Wait for me!" and came out chasing the fireball like a fat kid chasing an ice cream truck.
Makes sense, it doesn't have the pressure seal you need to get a high velocity.
Maybe thats why the guns didn't blow up. If the gunpowder was able to pass the bullet so easily, it probably means the pressure level in the barrel/chamber was reduced.
lol
@@mlgtactics9911 yep. 12ga is .73 and bmg is much smaller. The pressure produced by that round wouldn't even come close to detonating that barrel.
According to some digging, pumpaction shotgun barrels likely won't even explode till 55k psi. I say likely because not all manufacturers are the same. You can easily push 20k in a shotgun
@@mlgtactics9911 probably. i wouldnt be able to think of another reason
"unfortunately for this gun, many things fit into it"
These are my favorite type of Garand Thumb videos. Just fucking around, safely, seeing what works, what doesn't and why it does or doesn't.
The fireball exiting the 12 gauge before the bullet did was hilarious
idk why that shit cracked me up lol
notice how the fireball leaves the gun before the bullet does from the gasses slipping out around it.
That's why it didn't blow up: all the pressure goes past the bullet and out the front. And the way that barrel bent and wobbled, almost prying off the front grip, wasn't bad either.
Am I the only one seeing that he aged 10 years, packed on 5lbs to his forearms and grew a second chin overnight?
Would've loved if it sprung out and fell 4 inches out
The reason the .50 and the 8mm didn't blow up the guns is because the projectiles were smaller than the bore, so all the excess pressure simply escaped around the bullet through the front
yep, the gun was just not exposed to those higher pressures the cartridge was designed for because the chamber was not sealed around the projectile and like you said, the gas can expand around the bullet, wider chamber and wider bore
Honestly, they're probably just acting surprised for the views.
@@Dh4v0cyea I think anyone who understands why how a cartridge engages with a bore would know this
lets put some duct tape around the projectile so it is a perfect fit
@@ethanshipes4786 electrical tape would be superior in this application
My old roommate had a S&W 686, we used to love shooting that thing at the range. But being cheap 20 somethings at the time, we would always buy boxes of .38 spc instead of .357. Very fun practice round to shoot.
That's a nice CZ, they're such a pleasure to shoot! I found it easier to be precise & consistent with compared to many other common handguns.
I absolutely love how over the years the white lab coat has gone from pristine white to stained af 😂
Same with Slow Mo Guys
It's like the invincible title card!
That’s how you know real science is happening
first of all lower your voice
I suggested that they should never wash it. Just hose it off so it wouldn't stink.
The fact Micah can barely hold a camera, but is somehow trusted holding a baby is insane to me.
😂😂😂
How do these guys pick up the brass out there?
The fact people tolerate his character at all is even more appalling
@@DW133_Trained magpies.
@@RyuusanFT86why?
I think I know what’s happening here. The AR blew up because the bullet diameter was larger than the diameter of the barrel. This caused excess pressure, in addition to already being hotter, and that’s why it blew up. But with the shotguns, the diameter of each bullet was smaller than the barrel. So after the initial pressure curve, there would no longer be any friction to hold back the bullet, and all pressure would drop significantly. At least that’s my best guess. Anybody else have some ideas?
Edit: grammer
You are correct about the 300BLK. There was no way to let the gasses escape since the 30 cal projectile sealed the barrel. That meant it blew out the case and into the action. Good thing about an AR is when they blow, they normally channel the force out of the magwell and ejection port so the shooter is generally lightly impacted.
For the larger rounds, It's not friction. Much like detonating a shell outside of a barrel, if there is nothing to contain the explosion, then the powder won't burn. In this case, since the 50BMG was barely supported by the body of the case and the neck was free floating, then the powder never had enough time to burn. The case gave way and fireformed to the chamber almost immediately. Very little of the powder in either round ever ignited which meant a dramatically lower chamber pressure.
You spelled Grammar wrong, but it's ironically funny. Thumbs up.
Not only is there no friction holding back the bullet, because the cartridge is bottlenecked there isn't even a seal around the bullet so high pressure gasses can just bypass the bullet. You can see with the 50 in the 12 a puff of gas comes out before the bullet does
did you notice the bullet did indeed come out the muzzle?
Apparently I'm old, because I still take my 357 magnum to the range. I thought it was common knowledge that 38 special fires out of a 357 magnum. Since my 357 magnum is an 18.5_oz S&W Scandium frame, titanium cylinder "Mountain Lite", shooting 357 magnum loads start to hurt your hand after awhile. I can shoot about 2 boxes of 50, before my thumb muscle tells me to switch to 38 special. BTW, S&W no longer sells that revolver.
The thing about the .50 in the 12 and the 8 mauser in the 410 is the fact that the projectile was so small comparatively to bore diameter that the pressure vented around the projectile which prevented overpressure. its super cool.
EXACTLY!!!
I think the cases not splitting also probably helped a smidge
I’m kinda shocked they don’t know that.
Yeah man. It's a metal tube, and it's slightly smaller, but over pressured 2+2=4. Super cool tho
I bought an ar-10 from my ex-wife recently. Came with a loaded mag, I found out when I took it out to the range later on that her new boyfriend doesn’t know the difference between .243 and .308. The rifle shot the round successfully but was wildly inaccurate. It took three attempts to discover that .243 will fire but not cycle through a semiautomatic .308 system. The lesson learned is that if someone, even someone competent, hands you a loaded weapon, always clear the breach and check the rounds.
Video idea: I think it would be interesting to see how much damage a 50 bmg (maybe even 338 Lapua) can cause on a ballistic dummy when shooting it at long ranges (1 mile, 2km, 2 miles, 3.5km record sniper shot, 3 miles, etc). Perhaps you could calculate a rough speed at which the bullet would hit the target for each distance and try to emulate it by loading it with less powder so you can easily take accurate, repeatable shots at short range. Maybe even test how effective different types of armor would be against big caliber rounds at such long ranges.
Love your content, take care!
That would be an awesome video
Oooo that's a much need to watch
Wonder if he has 10 miles of gun range or so, to test a "how far Is a 50 bmg lethal" video
Was just thinking this the other day. Add 20mm and 25mm to the test!
The actual record shot is 4.4 miles (7.08km)
The sounds are so feaking good and super unique, must love to the editing team!
Floss in background of a cinematic shot is priceless
3:08
I'm incredibly impressed with the build quality of that Henry .410! Massive credit to the maker!
No pressure was built because .410 is much larger than .324 (8x57). Same with 50bmg VS 12ga.
Most barrels can withstand much, much more pressure than the saami rating... Which is kinda the point.
I guess the saying is true:
They don't makem like they used to!
@@midlbrwn15exactly. Same reason the .50 didn’t blow up a 12 gauge.
@@midlbrwn15 the 410 barrel/chamber probably can't handle a full powder load of the 8x57. But the 8mm bullet diameter is smaller than the barrel diameter of the shotgun chamber/barrel. So you get all that gas escaping past the bullet itself relieving a lot of the pressure.
Same goes for the 50bmg in the 12 gauge
@@midlbrwn15 Cant tell if the case wasn't fully fireformed or if that slight remaining taper is from the forcing cone.
The chemistry between Mike and Micah made me NOT skip the ads.
Comedic gold.
I just got an ad blocker since i come here to look at videos, NOT ads. Unless i search for old 1970s ads.
@@UpcomingJedithen don’t watch the ads… you can just skip through them
You guys are a blast - did things we all wanted to see but did not dare to do.
If it fits, …it shoots.
Wicked vid, thanks for staying safe and getting a video out.
I've seen .308 fired out of a Moisin Nagant. There were ejection issues, but it did fire.
I actually wasn't surprised by the 410 or the 12 gauge not blowing up. The smaller bullets wouldn't seal with the bore and prevented the cartridges from developing their full pressure.
Russian 7.62s (7.62x54R/7.62x39/7.62 Tokarev) are usually around .311 diameter not .308 so it shouldn't blow it up from creating a bore blockage like the .300 BLK does, but the inverse might create some problems if you chamber it.
yep, you can even see unburnt powder getting shot out of the barrel
You can also fire 30-30 Winchester through a Mosin. Learned this back in they day when I started reloading. Tried it myself and case gets stuck sometimes but that's it.
Brandon Herrera did it with a Saiga 12g knockoff and a 50 BMG. Same result, and then he put in some 3D printed inserts to make a better seal.
It then became a frag grenade.
@@Bruno-cb5gk also you can see the blast before the bullet
The dad advice is spot on here. Have three boys 11,6 and, 1. I feel like my first sons infancy was over in an instant and I didn’t get to take advantage of it. With my second two and as my oldest has gotten older I’ve learned to take full advantage of all stages of their lives as they come. Congrats Micah on your second.
" Faaauuuuq! Am I that old?!"
That was some seriously sound dad advice. The only thing I could add to it, is use your camera, it's already in your phone, doesn't cost anything, take advantage, you won't regret it.
I actually knew about the .38 spl working in .357 magnum. My first gun was a .357 SAA, and the gentleman who was helping me with the paperwork told me the .38 spl worked with it
Big thumbs up for Micah's advice at the end. Thank you!
Micah, your dad advice was on point. Time spent with our kids when they're young is soo precious. It goes by way to quick
Too
@@brantonioj1098 that was unnecessary
Yeah, it was only a 45 minute visit to Planned Parenthood...... it literally flew by. I should have taken more pictures....
@@user-vg3yc6gk5fDid youtube just arbitrarily change your username as well? I had Nordic runes in unicode and now mine is "user-blahblahblah" like yours.
This episode brought to you by the intrusive thoughts we’ve all had at the range.
But now I'm home and want to pattern 50bmg out of a 12ga at my local indoor range
@@jonathantaylor2584 you won't do it
@@Mister_Clean
*_Bet_*
@@Maxsteel_4014you won't do it, you're Scared!
why does garand thumb look so different??
I've never seen so many ads on a single video in 15+ years, including Superbowl ad compilations
8:10 love the slo-mo hip thrust
I was searching for this comment dude
In the right situation, the wrong caliber in a gun can actually be the right solution to a problem.
Imagine sleepy Joe tries it because we know he loves his shotguns
@@dylanlewis0509 its the 9mm blowing the lung out the body that you gotta watch out for
Seems to be true for the Henry 410 and 12Ga PAS.
the right caliber in the wrong gun can make all the difference in the world, so wake up, Mr Mossberg, wake up and smell the 290 grain
8:55 I've heard of several people mixing a few .380 into their 9mm rounds so they can practice clearing jams/malfunctions.
Yeah that was probably one of the least dangerous ones they did, tied with 38 spl out of a 357
The cutscene at the start 😢what a masterpiece
Crazy how much that barrel flexes! Id like to see a slow mo without the front stock to get a real good look
The relationship between Micha and Mr. Thumb is amazing. The chemistry they have in front of and behind the camera is top notch. You can tell Mr. Thumb is happy that Micha is back and working the camera after paternity leave.
"Mr Thumb" 💀
bro they are not gonna have sex for you. just letting you know now.
chemistry behind the camera? how do you know ? sus
@@DevinTHXChow do you know they won’t? 😏😏😏
You can try, but you can't kill a natural born bromance.
The "wrong" caliber is pretty 'safe'ish' to fire when it's not tight enough to hold the round and MAKE the pressures. Such as the 50BMG out of a 12ga. It's loose enough to let the pressure push past.
This!!!!
I should not possess this information bahahaha
Slight correction. The pressure isn't necessarily slipping past although what pressure does exist will as was evident.
The main reason it doesn't explode is because the pressure won't build in the first place.
Not to mention shotgun barrels from a decent manufacturer can easily withstand 20k psi. I've read someone testing a Remington pump the barrel didn't even buldge until 50k and exploded at 55.
Brandon exploded a weapon doing this, I expected the same thing here!
@@TBendez Brandon, however, had correct barrel for the round, so the shell didn't fireform and there was pressure build up.
That beginning was moving, beautiful performance
Interestingly enough .303/.308, .357, .454/.457 are actually quite popular calibres for air rifles in the 100 metre bench rest competition. Personally I quite enjoy shooting my modified Benjamin Bulldog .357. It looks incredibly badass with the buck rail suppressor installed.
It's always fun to see the reactions of people at the range when they first see it. And if feels pretty dang Dirty Harry to tell them it's chambered in .357
210 grain slug, 325m/s, good for about 800 Joules of muzzle energy... and all that with a muzzle report of only 87dB. Downside is that it uses a ridiculous amount of air to do that and the slugs really are not cheap at all.
Also it is BAD practice to put sharp tipped bullets in a tube magazine on some Iever and pump action centrefire rifles. I've heard they can discharge in the magazine if dropped or knocked. From a sharp tip detonating a primer. Maybe you could see if it will happen.
I’d like to see if .380 +P would cycle the 9mm pistol.
Also, I think the shotguns survived because the excess pressure was able to escape around the sides of the bullet since the bullet is smaller than the barrel inner diameter. The wad usually holds the pressure behind shotgun slugs/shot.
bingo
Had a customer that fired an entire box of 38 super through a charter arms 38spl. Brought it in because this "weird metal" stuff was coming out of the revolver. Spoiler the weird stuff was the rifling from the barrel. Still amazed that a charter managed to survive that.
I call bs, the 38 super bullet diameter is slightly smaller than 38 pecial, It would have zero effect. Sell your fiction somewhere else.
@@jacktheaviator4938 sure bud I made it up for the clout...
@jacktheaviator4938 also I'm thinking the double the pressure had way more to do with it than the one one thousandth difference in bullet diameter lol
Can a Rossi 38spl safely fire 357 mag?
Don't know. Might not even chamber it. I also don't want to be first in line to try it haha@@jacquesb8927
Great job guys.
Fantastic video! And congrats Micah! 🎉❤. Great video tho guys... That 410. Is ABSOLUTELY gorgeous btw... I'd love to own one... Think I might look for one... That and a shockwave attached to your backpack and your set!😅
I know that some police departments have used .380 for training purposes in their 9mm pistols to induce malfunctions. It’s fallen out of practice but it has been done in the past.
That's actually a good idea. I'm going to incorporate that.
@@Saanonymous80 why dont you just get a good gun
@@ghost.of.aleksz.salad. wHy DoN'T yOu JuSt GeT a GoOd GuN ???????? ????? ????????
@@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.....Even the best guns malfunction. Not every round is going to be perfect.
"why dont you just get a good gun" - noguns
Fun fact: the 9mm Makarov was designed to chamber and fire .380 ACP in case the Cold War became the Not-So-Cold War
I want one
I don't think Makarov designed it like that on purpose, he designed new ammo in tandem with his new pistol, and since pistol was simple blowback, to reduce weight of the slide a bit he made his 9mm ammo a bit shorter and less powerful, thus similar in dimensions and ballistics to .380 rounds. Doubt that he had any data on .380 rounds, though.
@@quint3ssent1ayeah, seems unlikely. It could have just been designed around a more common round which could be manufactured anywhere.
@@VeritasEtAequitasso its just Fun, no fact
Makarov diameter is 9.27mm .380’s diameter is 9.00mm. They are not compatible.
The .50 cal in the 12 gauge works without blowing it up usually because the smaller bullet allows propellant gases to squeeze around it and let off a big portion of the pressure.
this video is why there might be a man somewhere nicknamed Billy-no-hands that had acquired his no-hands doing something like this
Neat video guys, thanks!
Having worked at a large AR manufacturer years ago, one of my favorite customer-induced failures we'd receive were the guys who fired .300 BK from their 5.56 AR.
Of the ones I worked on, the bullets were always still in the barrel, ( though a couple were close to exiting, ) and then a special few individuals figured they could shoot the stuck bullet out of the barrel. DON'T ever do this. The damage to the AR was impressive.
The 12ga/.50 test was the most intriguing and impressive.
That just underscores the importance of identifying the caliber of your AR if you have different calibers. Mine have different color upper receivers.
“Oh there’s an obstruction in my barrel, I’ll just fire another round and push it out. That definitely won’t turn my gun into a hand grenade.”
I'd like to think most gun owners are reasonably intelligent and responsible people, then I see a statement like "figured they could shoot the stuck bullet out of the barrel" aaaaaaaand...
its honestly surprising and impressive that the 300 blackout round escaped the barrel altogether if yall could have recovered it it was probably nearly 3 inches long after being essentially extruded through a 22 barrel the quality of that barrel is good
Odds are it’s probably left a good amount of material in the gun chamber. I’d say the bullet was a little longer but very little if I had to guess. The others didn’t surprise me. The are higher pressure in a correct chamber but when you increase the space and the bullet doesn’t create friction the pressure is significantly reduced.
@@XxBigDAWG22xXyeah, there's little force when you don't have a pressure seal.
reminds me of squeeze bore cannons lmao
a .30 will never pass thru a .223. I mean, c'mon. No wonder the bottom blew out of the receiver.
@@johnskiffington9117 you can see it pass through in slow mo. Not saying some isn’t left but some did exit
“Fuck am I that old?” Then proceeds to say “neato” after emptying the 357 lol
That stache is absofuckinglutely fantastic, Mike 🔥🔥🔥
"Time is the most precious resource of your life". Well said Micah!
So the .410 and the 12 gauge did not blow up because the projectiles were smaller than the barrels. This allowed for gasses to escape around them, dramatically reducing the pressure in those firearms. Watch the .50 come out after the blast 8:18.
Double barrelled .410 shotgun, chambered in 8mm Mauser is my new DG double barrelled rifle…Thanks guys for the recommendation
"It makes a good cat toy" broke me 😂
I would imagine if you were to put a much weaker recoil spring in a 9mm handgun you may be able to get the .380 ammo to cycle the action and rechamber.
Justin
You Definitely can, especially with a lighter frame and slide. Though they still don't like to feed well without a custom mag because of the casing length and spring tension differences.
You could also presumably handload .380 to be a bit hotter, as well.
@@FlashHawk4.380 +ppp at that point lol
I reload 9mm. I also have a calibration spring set for my 9mm. I'll have to try the lightest recoil spring and load some 9 with a 380 load to see what happens.
Seeing that .300 fly out of the end of that .22 barrel was unreal. I've heard of squeeze bore guns before but those were made to function as such.
It was more likely cut from the .300 projectile rather than squeezed. Would be nice to see remains of the chamber after the shot.
the squeeze bore is also gradual
Too bad they didn't have some kind of backstop to catch the bullets for analysis. Like maybe a big old plastic water tank?
The fact you guys are unironically good actors lowkey lmao
This video is like 10% dangerous, 20% advertisement, 15% stolen, 5% cinematic masterpiece 50% pleasure and 100% reason you already remember their name
Fun fact: you can get revolvers with moon cuts that will allow them to chamber auto round. For example .357/.38 when cut for specific moon clips will fire 9mm.
I've seen a few Webley mk 4 (in the .455 chambering) cut for moon clips that allowed you to fire .45acp
.32acp another that will work...
@@DH-xw6jpreally shouldn't fire .45 auto through a webley
@@horacegentleman3296 i never said it was a smart idea, just that i have seen it done.
@@DH-xw6jp lots of boomers abusing webleys they got cheap that way; just trying to spread the word. .45acp standard pressure is higher than the PROOFING pressure used on .455 webley
Expanding gasses from burning powder do not care where they go, they are just pushing against everything. In the case (pun intended) of the 8mm and the 50 cal, the brass was the easiest thing to push. Once it pushed it into the chamber wall there was an easy route around the bullet and out the bore. Cool stuff.
this intro skit nearly killed me. too funny!
I used to have an old '03-A3 Springfield barrel that was bow split in two by some now-blind genius who thought it was a good idea to trim the copper jacket off the tip of FMJ rounds, until one jacket got stuck in the bore........we used it as part of our Hunter's Safety course my dad and I taught for Idaho Fish and Game. Very effective as a visual reminder.
That dad advice sections was on point, nice Micah and congrats.
That 410 really surprised me. Can't believe it handled it as well as it did.
I have an old single round 410 its always fun going and buying ammo and occasionally getting confused looks
The pressure goes right around the bullet if it doesn’t seal well.
I had no idea 410 would fire 8mm Mauser
You can literally see it tumble as it exits the barrel
he also still had a choke on it too, you can see it at the end of the barrel
OMG thanks GT I’m gonna try that 50cal thing right now!👍🏻
Nice Video! Thanks for the content! 🙂🤘🏻
5:50 You need to try to trap some of these projectiles. Because the barrel is oversized to the projectile in most of these matchups it is shocking how weak a material will catch the bullet. Spoiler: A 5.56 round when shot out an SKS (7.62x39) will bounce off a plastic water bottle placed 1ft in front of it.
EDIT: My lawyer advises me to advise you that only persons recognized as doctors in the state of New Jersey should try this at their home, ranch, or dwelling house.
#oddlyspecific
I would like to see the rounds with ballistic gel also.
As a person who would probably be recognized as a doctor by the State of New Jersey, I would advise against any of these activities unless your attorney is the one pulling the trigger, in which case, go to it.
The other point of note, is that manual action (Be it lever, breach loading or pump) are going to also be a lot more anticlimactic if they do get destroyed by a round, if you want an interesting destruction go with gas operation.
30-30 WIN will fire successfully through a 7.62x54r, but not the other way around.
Micah was dead on with the dad advice. Time IS the most important thing.
Ever read "Hatcher's Notebook". That alone would have told you that the .50 in the 12 gauge would be fine. The barrel isn't sealing the powder charge with the projectile, so you really get no velocity and most of what you're getting is just the force of the primer's explosion.
First time on this channel. I’m hooked.
I actually expect the shotguns to work since most of the gasses are going around the bullet since the barrel is much larger, allowing alot of the pressure to escape. Hints why it exited the barrel so slow. In the barrel of the right caliber it can't escape from around it causing the pressure to build. The longer the barrel the longer that pressure is behind the projectile causing it to have more fps(go faster).
My grandfather used 44-40 in his 410 all the time. Worked remarkably according to him.
.444 Marlin also fits, wouldn't suggest shooting it.
@@derekmonroe3691 444 would definitely push the limits. I'm hoping to try fire forming some 303. Much easier to find empty brass to use compared to 444.
@@Riven1974 They can'y have my .303 emptys. lol
That Henry belt buckle is so baller!
NGL, I'm impressed to see 8x57 turn up. I'm assuming 8x57 IS which is your classic Kar98K round and supposedly had very good performance if the figures from the time are accurate. From what I hear many U.S manufacturers underload these in case it accidentally gets put into the older 8x57 I (I think that's the old one at .318 and round-nosed as opposed to spiegel .323) round. In ww2 the Germans supposedly had a boat-tail design on the round which I think is quite unique for the time. I have some inert .303 rounds and even some 30-06 and they are all flat-based. The high quality sniper version of s.S Patrone claimed coefficients averaging 0.595 at 197.5grains which is damn good compared to the average of about .45 depending on round. Some say the powder used was also superior at the time (I think cartridges of the world says that claim). It's been a rarity that I've only seen on Hickhok 45s channel when he used the Kar98. I'd like to see more of this caliber since it's supposedly quite powerful. I know in Hunter Classic it's damn good and I use the '98 in game but I'd like to see real world performance. The best performance I could find online for commercial U.S rounds was from norma for an 8x57IS Nosler Partition which is 200gr and .426 which is a lot better than some that I have found. Federal Hi-shok is claimed at .31 which is not that great at 170gr and the poorest I found was Core-Lokt SP at .205 170gr if I use gundata org values. I swear that website is referring to the older I model since that is closer to the round nose value. Again, love to see some tests some time to see what the IS version is like.
I am impressed though that the .410 actually fired it.
With the price of .410 shells these days, we need pioneers like you brave gents to find alternative loads to repurpose our .410's.
If you're looking for cheap ammo, I think you may be disappointed with the rates 8mm Mauser runs at :(
@@pkbltz5272 Oh, is THAT what he shot? I couldn't quite tell. Yeah those are....oof.
.45 long colt fits.
Thanks for the tips guys, my grandma hasn’t been this suprised shooting a rifle in over 60 years!
She stopped yelling yet?
Best channel for gun content and real science . Bro you said adventure time haha.
I would like some of them expanded neck 50's to reload & make some PPE 12ga rounds, seems like they'd be perfect for a dbl barrel truck piece for the really big dangers that the EDC pistola or reg rig rifel doesn't handle😄@ 8:40
13:48 Great advice! I had an old man give me the exact same advice when I first became a father… you just need to appreciate who they are at any given time
I'm pretty impressed with that AR. I've seen ARs where the upper receiver split open after a .300blk through a 5.56
And a palmetto at that. Impressive 👍🏻
This is an intended feature of the AR. When there's a blockage in the barrel it redirects the gas downwards into the mag so it doesn't blow up in your face
@@SuperXrayDoc Really? Do you mean like for squibs (which scare the shit out of me). Do you have any references on this?
The reason the .410 / 8x57 and 12g / 50BMG did not blow up the guns is that in both cases, the bullet did not engage the throat of the barrel. With nothing but the crimp and the inertia of the bullet to provide backpressure on the cartridge case, neither round came anywhere close to the pressure it would be at in a rifle. I expected to see the results you got, with the case fireformed to the chamber/barrel of the shotgun.
Id like to see that 50bmg chrono'd and hitting ballistic gel out of the 12g. It has to lose soooo much pressure that its about like throwing it. Love what u guys do.
So glad to see Micah back. Cant wait to see all three(Garandthumb, Charlie and Micah) of you guys in another video again.
Best dad advice yet. My first baby is 9 months old now and I've cherished every single minute possible with her. Crazy how having a child changes your outlook on life and what is and isn't important.
Micah came through at the end with the wisest words 💯💯💯
I once accidentally shot .40 S&W out of an FNX-45. I rented the gun at the range to see if I wanted to buy one and didn't check the box of ammo the guy behind the counter gave me. It kept firing funny, all my shots were obviously tumbling, and it never cycled. I went back to the counter, and the manager was super pissed. I never saw that dude working at that particular store again.
FNX-45 owner here. I bet that pistol is fine lol. It’s a super solid pistol, and the only pistol I like more is the FN FiveSeven. Just, so, smooth. I put the Apex Tactical compensator on too and it’s phenomenal.
Congratulations Micah! Solid dad advice! Very interesting video. Thanks!
Micah, thank you for the dad advice you are absolutely correct. I did the same thing with my first kid who is my almost 6 year old son, and I regret not slowing things down to spend more time with him when he was an infant until 2 or 3 when he could really start doing fun stuff. Spend as much time as you can with your kids from the moment of birth until your time on this earth is up, because those moments you spend with them carry on to when they have kids of their own.
Great dad advice!
Truth well told.
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😂😂 first laught of the day early in the morning! Thank you guys!
As always funny af and informative.
As far as being a dad, I did the same thing, always looking to the next step my boy was going to take.
On the second one I learned to be in the present, and enjoy every moment of both of my baby's experiences...
lots of pics and vids too. ❤
Now my little guys are 20 and 22 !
"..The first kid is always a little F ed up " :)
The .50 BMG never generated high pressure in the shotgun's chamber, because as soon as the pressure in the cartridge was high enough to distend the case neck around the bullet, there was only minor further containment of the pressure remaining to provide any further increase - enough to fire form the case - and there was a .510" bullet waltzing down a .729" diameter barrel surrounded by a lot of unburned and burning powder. It would have been interesting to fire it over a chronograph to see what the muzzle velocity was.
Firing an 8mm in a .410 is likewise a .312 bullet dribbling down a .410 bore. An interesting side note is that it's actually a "thing" to fire form a .303 Enfield brass case in a .410 chamber and then use the brass case for reloading .410 ammunition, after annealing the mouth of the case, by crimping the case mouth lightly over a paper wad to keep the shot in. The very low .410 (67.62 gauge) chamber pressure (13,500 psi) barely taxes the .303 brass, which was designed for a chamber pressure of 49,000 psi. The rimmed case fits nicely in the .410 shotgun chamber once fire formed, and lasts - especially if periodically annealed - practically forever.
I am curious if the brass on the .50 would do the same thing in th 12g. Could you use the brass to make full brass 12g loads??
@pointramblings1093 A .50 BMG case head is .804" in diameter, whereas a 12 gauge shotgun chamber is .810" in diameter at the mouth. The .50 BMG case could be cut at the 3" case shoulder to fit lengthwise in the 12 gauge chamber, but the additional .006 clearance of the case head - .003 on each side - which, being 6 times the clearance of a 12 gauge cartridge from the chamber wall, would likely prevent a sufficiently tight gas seal.
Moreover, the .50 BMG case is rimless - whereas 12 gauge shells are rimmed, and headspace on the rim. 12 gauge chambers have a gradually tapering forcing cone - not a fixed internal step like a straight wall, centerfire, rimless rifle cartridge chamber would, so there's no ridge to headspace against for the cut down .50 BMG cartridge mouth.
There are, however, brass 12 Gauge cases - from Buffalo Arms, for example - so that is a far better route to take if you are interested in experimenting with brass cases. They are expensive, of course, but they last essentially forever. Brass cases, though, are kind of a pain to deal with, because you need to crimp and/or tightly seal the case mouth - there's no bullet in the case mouth like there is with a conventional cartridge, nor a provision for a roll or star crimp like a conventional paper or plastic shotgun shell.
One note on a different subject - firing sub-power rounds in a semi-auto, as done here with a .380 (9mm Kurz) in a 9mm. Although the .380 was insufficiently powerful to cycle the 9mm's action, Officer Greg (OG's Danger Show) has demonstrated firing .40 S&W in a pistol chambered for 10mm, with perfect functioning, including ejection and feeding. Sort of a more powerful version of .38 Special in a .357 Magnum revolver.
I spit my drink out at the 🤨 emoji at the beginning 😂😂
Love your guys videos, just kills me when you don't explain why the rounds are doing what they're doing in the wrong chambers. The reason the firearms aren't exploding is because the projectile isn't sealing up the chamber/barrel and trapping all that over pressure. It's just released through the barrel. The 5.56 was destroyed because the 300blk is larger than the 5.56 barrel and it trapped the pressure and it had to go somewhere.
This is the correct explanation. The bottleneck cartridges don't seal the pressure in on those two designs, so most of it is discharged harmlessly around the rounds rather than creating pressure between the bullet and receiver through the length of the barrel.