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I feel like everything from B upwards is playable at D10 and considering how people complain that everything is getting nerfed and all the stratagems and weapons suck, it appears that they really are just flat wrong. I feel like I've never had such variety as I do now for my loadouts. Stuff needs work for sure but damn the outrage is so over the top.

nice, now we have a clear idea what the next 50 nerfs will be in order

HMG turret is such a rollercoaster strat, when it’s good it’s absolutely amazing, especially in teams or when layering. But when it’s bad…it’s soul crushingly bad. The fact bugs in my experience go out of their way to destroy it to means any Titan or charger “existing” near your turret means it’s gone. You can’t really even respond to impalers before they’ll instakill you on your turret. Man I love it, but sometimes it feels like it doesn’t love me back

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Personally I bring laser guard dog, 500kg, gas and quasar for bugs 500kg for heavy targets, gas for everything else I use Quasar to help teammates while 500kg is in CD, also it doesn't have ammo issue so the extra supply packs can go to my teammates And laser guard dog just kills

I've found if I take a grenade that strong against bug breeches like the incendiary grenade then I don't have any ammo economy issues with the grenade launcher. I love it.

As a mostly bot solo player, your top 4 S rank is my go to bot build lmao. It’s kind of a shame that AC has also taken off against bugs as much as it has, but with the current enemy compositions (Behemoth’s two shots to the face in particular with AT, or the momentum fuckery into leg play), various inconsistencies, and the Impaler, strict AT has just become less efficient. May as well just run an AC to counter 90% of it, mop up with your primary, and carry something for the titans. 380 making it that high versus bugs kinda surprised me, but it’s been a while since I’ve done bugs or even had a team to play with at all so I’m a little behind on the arms race.

will you be doing a tier-list for weapons and stratagems for automatons like you did for terminids?

Spear is best against chargers when you use stun grenades, I get consistent one shots by stunning chargers once they’re facing me, backing off to 30-32 meters, getting my launcher as level to the ground as possible without breaking lock, and that more or less sets up an instant one shot kill against behemoths and chargers

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Grenade Launcher definitely needs to be higher.

This might not be a popular opinion but I wish they didn’t add the new armored brood commanders. They soak up too much ammo, while not bringing anything new gameplay-wise. Maybe if they only threw in a handful of them per mission, or made them guard a side objective like the stalkers… but overall I think they suck.

Dude unstable laser cannon idea rocks I need that shit this instant lol.

Grenade Launcher is S-tier. It kills literally everything and closes bug holes. Yes, you have to take the Supply Pack, but that isn't a downside because the Supply Pack is also S-tier. Just bring OPS + 500kg to help with Bile Titans and a Cookout plus whatever secondary you want. Top tier build.

I can’t wait for this to be looked at arrow head and see them nerf it all.

Your tier lists are great! Nice work.

You ought to rank the warbonds!

Strongly disagree about the stalwart. It excels at light mob chaff clear, which means you can take extra stratagems for heavy clear. As for “just use other primaries”, no primary does the job the stalwart does quite as well. If I run into a patrol of a dozen hunters, the sickle won’t fire long enough to kill them all before over heating. A shotgun won’t keep me from getting swarmed/flanked. Stalwart? Controlled bursts/spraying will wipe a patrol clean in a few seconds where a primary would not, which is difference between a bug breach going off or not. Just pair it with a dominator/eruptor to cover for medium enemies and bring AT stratagems for heavies. Stalwart is A tier in my book for sure.

The flamethrower needs to go back to the way it was before the change please 🙏🏾 arrowhead

Maybe it's just because I run with a lot of PUGs that don't believe the supply pack is good but Railcannon/110 are a big help for the spear.

Praying for arrowhead to listen to us and just make game more fun and enjoyable to play

I salute you for trying to make this game more enjoyable and exciting but fact is getting worse and a little boring 🥱

I feel like the smoke stratagems are more for conventional battle. As in not very useful for evasion, even though they can do that, but terminids without line of sight do attempt to cut the player off, many terminids slow down, chargers finish charging at the edge of the smoke, spewers either do not spew or spew for the edge of the smoke, etc. Not saying they are supremely useful, but that they seem to have more use in a fight. Positive and negative, arc weapons does not need line of sight to attack through thick smoke.

been an AC user since day 1. people couldnt deal with the recoil or drag. still cant. also i dont use peak on level 10 either. personally i use either champion of the people or democracy protect for the better survivalbility

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Gawd you're so dmumb I use X stratagem Y way and itsn clearly esh tier.

Gas+AR-23 dog plus Arcthrower +900 kills in lv10 7/10 matches , love those strats.

I’ve dropped the 500kg on a few impalers, it hit the impaler with the shell, then blew up on it, and the bitch was still alive smh

Your videos are really excellent, please keep up the great work, Maplewood. If only Arrowhead could see these tier-lists and implement some of these suggestions, I think the game we all love would benefit immeasurably…

I think gas is great now that the cookout exists. You can CC a whole breach by gassing it and then keeping the bugs staggered back into the gas, AND you apply two DOTs at once.

Flamer after changes is still really good. It has same durable damage as regular one so it's one of best weapons against impalers. Chargers still die fast if you cook the butt. On durable damage and AP note, Impaler has huge hp pool but low armor. So Stalwart actually work decently with it's huge mag and rate of fire against impalers. Exposed "face" only has armor 1. And reload on the run shouldn't be underestimated in hordes. If you have it paired with Jar-5 you are great chaff clearer for your team. Supply backpack, Stalwart and 2 Anti armor strats is decent. Best use for Walking Barrage is dropping it at your feet and run in same direction it will go. Everything that chases you get smacked xD Just don't stop running.

I think quasar is the S tier support weapon this patch. You can strip charger front leg armor after stunning it with stun nades, you can walk around back and shoot the back leg of impalers to strip them, there seem to be more shreiker/spore nests around and this is a free way to deal with it, and spore chargers can just be shot in the face in 1 shot. The biggest benefit this has over auto cannon is the ability to get shield gen to stop all the slows/1 shots from bile spewers. I always prefer it over EAT/RR because you don't have to manage ammo as much.

It's very easy to 1 shot implalers with eagles you wait for it to bury head and 1 shell will blow it

I say Mechs are high a tier

I disagree with the eagle strafing run. It’s fantastic against the impalers and you can easily destroy shrieker nests and in super Helldive you kill a lot more chaff then you think. I do agree that the more spread would be nice but it’s pretty damn good.

Railcannon keeps getting overrated af that thing is ass in high diff it dont even do its only purpose well which is one shotting only 1 enemy, there are way too many chargers and bile titans its just not worth it, cooldown way too long once you use it another titan or charger will show up just bring in the OPS or 500kg much lower cooldowns with ACTUAL one shot to the big guys…

I teamed blitzer (short distance) with lasser cannon (med to long distance) and eats for chargers and titans (i aim to carapace to finish fast with laser) and feel like a 1 man army. Eagle airstrike for fragging breaches (used to use cluster napalms gas or barrages x frag but they dont seem to do that well any ore for the amount of armored enemies on breaches). Easy 500+ kills per match (not that the kill count means anything but u feel powerful) medium medic with granade pistol and stuns ggwp u do anything

Wait, Autocannon is META? Always has been

Dude if flamethrower staggered them i would never put it down even without being able to penetrate charger legs.

The tier lists, even though I are legendary and amazing to watch so nothing to improve the gameplay 😥

For the hordes of chargers on 10 I just use the Scorcher with the supply backpack. Less than a magazine to pop the abdomen (even behemoths), shreds spewers, can weaken bile titans and pop their sacs, and can clear groups of small bugs as well. With this setup I do like to bring the Stalwart to deal with large groups of hunters or shriekers, though I've also been liking the HMG since it can destroy spore/shrieker towers.

The deployable shield generator is such a meme for bugs, since its 90 second cooldown you can just use it as like bug bait super often cause they love to aggro on it and it has quite a decent amount of hp, and if a bile titan does the spit animation on it it will just suicide cause its spitting on the shield, though that doesnt happen super often

Airbust with team reload supply pack strat can delete all the mobs its great, but def too conditional to be good

If they just gave the flamethrower pen but also very low durable damage it would be pretty fair I think. Make it so it CAN damage a chargers leg but that it will kill it faster if you go for the butt. I think thats plenty fair. I just remember using the flamethrower after getting the ship module that gave it more damage killing a charger in seconds with it. I cant lie, it gave me a feeling like wow OK maybe that is a little too good. I remember when I first tried level 5 difficulty and watching helldivers try to kill chargers with the flamethrower and it took them pretty long, they didnt know where to specifically aim, and that module didnt exist, and the flamethrower wasnt too great at killing chargers. It was only recently that it became ridiculously fast.

Walking barrage is excellent for the mega nests. Check out some of Spiked's recent videos (no AT one is good) for an example.

as a new laser cannon bug enjoyer (with EAT for anti tank) if it got a buff 👀 i feel like the gas strike got nerfed in efficacy because i have been finding hunters are tankier than i remember since they dont seem to die when walking/jumping through gas

Thanks for the insight with the tier list! It's fascinating how you managed to place the grenade launcher anywhere but the top tier for Bugs. I know it's blatantly OP compared to every other weapon, but I guess this tier list will help keep that our little secret.

I fully agree with your opinions on the mines. Right now they are just too lackluster at their role. Like they can do their job but every other stratagems kinda do what they do way better. I've heard a pretty good suggestion which is to give them extra charges like Eagle Stratagems. That way the mines can have a lot more flexibility as in you can either replace depleted minefields or drop multiple minepods for a wider/deeper minefield. Side note I think the basic Anti Personnel mine could use with some big damage buff. Like enough for them to one shot devastator and brood commander levels of damage. I think that would dramatically make them more appealing at higher difficulties. Also the other suggestions that everyone keeps bringing up of AT mines only detonating when heavy class enemies step on them would be pretty amazing at letting them serve their intended function better.

I know people have different opinions, but Quasar in A tier?! Laser Cannon in the same tier as GL and MMG? QC and LC are C tier for sure vs Bugs. Almost unplayable.

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