UPDATED Every Stratagem RANKED For BOTS Tier 9 | Helldivers 2 Tier List

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • I went through and updated my tierlist including all the changes that have been introduced through ship modules and patches! Weapon tier lists to come shortly after the warbonds release this week!
    Let me know in the comments what you think! Or come by the stream and have a discussion with me about it. This is my opinion and according to how I play.
    Feel free to ask me questions via the comments here, discord, or my twitch stream!
    -- Orbitals --
    [1:16] Orbital Railcannon Strike
    [1:46] Orbital 380mm HE Barrage
    [2:12] Orbital Smoke Strike
    [2:31] Orbital Precision Strike
    [3:10] Orbital Airburst Strike
    [3:37] Orbital Laser
    [4:24] Orbital EMS Strike
    [4:48] Orbital Gatling Barrage
    [5:16] Orbital Walking Barrage
    [5:44] Orbital Gas Strike (note: DOT is already fixed)
    [6:36] Orbital 120mm HE Barrage
    -- Eagles --
    [6:59] Eagle 110mm Rocket Pods
    [7:32] Eagle Napalm Airstrike (note: DOT is already fixed)
    [8:24] Eagle Airstrike
    [8:49] Eagle 500kg Bomb
    [9:28] Eagle Smoke Strike
    [10:02] Eagle Strafing Run
    [10:30] Eagle Cluster Bomb
    -- Defensive --
    [11:06] Gating Sentry
    [11:47] Mortar Sentry
    [12:29] Tesla Tower
    [12:56] HMG Emplacement
    [13:38] EMS Mortar Sentry
    [14:03] Autocannon Sentry
    [14:34] Rocket Sentry
    [14:53] Machine Gun Sentry
    [15:09] Shield Generator Relay
    [15:58] Incendiary Mines + Anti-Personnel Minefield
    -- Backpacks --
    [16:44] Shield Generator Pack
    [17:47] "Guard Dog" Rover + "Guard Dog"
    [18:43] Ballistic Shield Backpack
    [19:34] Supply Pack
    [20:23] Jump Pack
    -- Support Weapons + Mech --
    [21:17] Laser Cannon
    [22:10] Quasar Cannon
    [22:37] Recoilless Rifle (RR)
    [23:17] Grenade Launcher
    [23:57] Anti-Materiel Rifle (AMR)
    [24:49] Autocannon (AC)
    [25:19] Arc Thrower
    [26:21] Heavy Machine Gun (HMG)
    [27:32] Spear
    [28:43] Expendable Anti-tank (EAT)
    [29:32] Stalwart
    [30:16] Machine Gun (MG)
    [30:51] Railgun
    [32:01] Flamethrower
    [32:28] Patriot Exosuit
    [33:02] Airburst Rocket Launcher
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Komentáře • 114

  • @Pyromaniac77777
    @Pyromaniac77777 Před 4 měsíci +20

    The cat just casually taking a seat in frame midway through the list is giving this great vibes

  • @certifiedpyro
    @certifiedpyro Před 4 měsíci +5

    -- Orbitals --
    [1:16] Orbital Railcannon Strike
    [1:46] Orbital 380mm HE Barrage
    [2:12] Orbital Smoke Strike
    [2:31] Orbital Precision Strike
    [3:10] Orbital Airburst Strike
    [3:37] Orbital Laser
    [4:24] Orbital EMS Strike
    [4:48] Orbital Gatling Barrage
    [5:16] Orbital Walking Barrage
    [5:44] Orbital Gas Strike (note: DOT is already fixed)
    [6:36] Orbital 120mm HE Barrage
    -- Eagles --
    [6:59] Eagle 110mm Rocket Pods
    [7:32] Eagle Napalm Airstrike (note: DOT is already fixed)
    [8:24] Eagle Airstrike
    [8:49] Eagle 500kg Bomb
    [9:28] Eagle Smoke Strike
    [10:02] Eagle Strafing Run
    [10:30] Eagle Cluster Bomb
    -- Defensive --
    [11:06] Gating Sentry
    [11:47] Mortar Sentry
    [12:29] Tesla Tower
    [12:56] HMG Emplacement
    [13:38] EMS Mortar Sentry
    [14:03] Autocannon Sentry
    [14:34] Rocket Sentry
    [14:53] Machine Gun Sentry
    [15:09] Shield Generator Relay
    [15:58] Incendiary Mines + Anti-Personnel Minefield
    -- Backpacks --
    [16:44] Shield Generator Pack
    [17:47] "Guard Dog" Rover + "Guard Dog"
    [18:43] Ballistic Shield Backpack
    [19:34] Supply Pack
    [20:23] Jump Pack
    -- Support Weapons + Mech --
    [21:17] Laser Cannon
    [22:10] Quasar Cannon
    [22:37] Recoilless Rifle (RR)
    [23:17] Grenade Launcher
    [23:57] Anti-Materiel Rifle (AMR)
    [24:49] Autocannon (AC)
    [25:19] Arc Thrower
    [26:21] Heavy Machine Gun (HMG)
    [27:32] Spear
    [28:43] Expendable Anti-tank (EAT)
    [29:32] Stalwart
    [30:16] Machine Gun (MG)
    [30:51] Railgun
    [32:01] Flamethrower
    [32:28] Patriot Exosuit
    [33:02] Airburst Rocket Launcher

    • @MochaBloke
      @MochaBloke Před 4 měsíci +1

      May liberty speed your step for this, Helldiver.

  • @Dr_Dallas
    @Dr_Dallas Před měsícem +1

    @ 9:12 "I have my jailbreak... eh get outta fail...get. out. of. free. jail card." Nailed it lmao

  • @falseblackbear3553
    @falseblackbear3553 Před 4 měsíci +15

    I think the orbitals in general need a buff. The overwhelming majority of players, myself included, resort to using eagles. The orbital laser needs to do more damage. The orbital rail cannon needs to have a shorter cool down. The orbital gas strike needs to have a larger area of affect and needs to be doing more damage overtime. The orbital EMS strike is less effective than the mortar. The 120 mm and 380 mm still need to be a little bit tighter. The orbital Gatling should have higher armor penetration. and finally, the walking barrage has a very specific use, and unless you have a long line of enemies coming towards you, it's essentially useless.

    • @jakemoore5077
      @jakemoore5077 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I just want rail to guarantee the kill and I'd be happy

    • @HeyItzMeDawg
      @HeyItzMeDawg Před 4 měsíci +3

      If you're using more than one eagle in your kit at any time you're already indirectly nerfing all eagles due to rearm being shared. Often you're put in situations where if you rearm immediately you lose a charge of your 500kg or you wait to rearm and don't have your air strike up when you need it. Gets even worse if you run three eagles; bad rearm management can turn eagles into bottom tier by giving them like >5 minute cds.

    • @falseblackbear3553
      @falseblackbear3553 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@HeyItzMeDawg I understand what you're saying, but I could run 500 KG, airstrike and cluster bomb and can get eight uses out of them(2,3,3) and then have them re-arm in less time then I could use a rail cannon or laser twice.

    • @gangsterguardsman4576
      @gangsterguardsman4576 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@falseblackbear3553the problem with your math is that you could use your eagle airstrike, a laser, and a railcannon in that time too. And the laser can kill an entire heavy outpost. The cooldowns could use a tiny buff but the short ones are great already and the long ones are powerful enough (120 is great for medium+ nests and hordes at extract)

    • @falseblackbear3553
      @falseblackbear3553 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@gangsterguardsman4576 the problem with the 120 is that it has the same cooldown time as the 380, even though it does 1/3 the damage.
      The laser is good for clearing out large outposts, but with a 3.5 minute cooldown and only 3 uses, it is a bit neutered. I could flatten an outpost with 2 500kg's and 1-2 airstrikes and get them back quicker than the laser, with unlimited uses.

  • @snorelax3908
    @snorelax3908 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I've learned to prefer the 380 over the orbital laser. They almost do the same job. It can take down big bases, its good against helldive bot drops, a factory strider isn't likely to survive one and it comes in handy during extraction once you know what direction the enemies are coming from. 30 seconds reprieve is a life time during extraction.

    • @romarikanugames
      @romarikanugames Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yep I use this over the laser. Unlimited uses vs 3 for the same job is a no brainier. And with the ship upgrades, it’s sooo good.

    • @GrubKiller436
      @GrubKiller436 Před 4 měsíci

      If we are talking: you can only use one red strategem, then the laser is better.
      Cause it's more than just going up against bases, you can throw the laser at any time, and it has less collateral damage.
      But since we are not just carrying one strategem, then combinations like 380mm barrage with eagle airstrike are better.

  • @andrewkong3154
    @andrewkong3154 Před 4 měsíci +17

    I don't even play helldivers I just saw a cat. That cat should be on top of s tier.

    • @duross101
      @duross101 Před 4 měsíci

      Can you run it on the computer you've got?

    • @andrewkong3154
      @andrewkong3154 Před 4 měsíci

      @@duross101 I was just messing around. I spread democracy regularly haha.

  • @Paqu1
    @Paqu1 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Rockets DO NOT destroy or even damage the Ballistic Shield. It can only be destroyed by tower turrets, Annihiliator tanks main cannon or the top cannon of Factory Strider.

    • @jonahjohn4095
      @jonahjohn4095 Před 4 měsíci

      Riot shield is niche but it’s fun as hell. Especially with the new pummeler

  • @snorelax3908
    @snorelax3908 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I think the gas strike is very strong against the bots now. It can destroy a fabricator and the cool down is so short you can throw it at every 2nd patrol you come across. I've noticed significantly less bot drops when you start the engagement with a gas strike. Does a decent job against bot drops when they do happen. Its just a bit inaccurate at times.

    • @gangsterguardsman4576
      @gangsterguardsman4576 Před 4 měsíci

      I’d love a ship module that gives the gas and ems strike an extra shell

  • @NthnLikeCodeine
    @NthnLikeCodeine Před 4 měsíci +1

    I really do believe we need a fifth stratagem slot as standard

  • @nspence2854
    @nspence2854 Před 3 měsíci

    I do sorta wish people would talk about the effectiveness of stratagems/weapons as one progresses through the difficulty levels instead of just assuming helldive difficulty.

  • @mossblomma
    @mossblomma Před 4 měsíci

    Counterpoint to the shield: if you can keep an eye on rocket enemies it completely invalidates every small arms fire enemy, which most notably includes heavy devastators and non-cannon tank fire, the regular rocket enemies usually miss you or can be made to miss as long as you fire in their direction, you can still be staggered by striders but with the grenade pistol secondary you have a quick way to deal with them (or using a support weapon, but you're usually under fire so it's iffy), rocket devastators can sometimes be a problem but they don't destroy the shield (they do damgae it though), just rag-doll you, large explosions or cannon fire can eat the shield for sure but I think that is a fair price to pay for all the upsides, I think it's absolutely stronger than the shield backpack.

  • @Illeprih
    @Illeprih Před 4 měsíci +2

    I personally prefer the Laser over AMR against bots. The TTK of laser is so high - but that said, I am running shield backpack and truth be told, you absolutely NEED to run it, because if you don't a single raider will shoot you and the aim punch will mess everything up. Especially since the thing tends to sway quite a bit on it's own, so you often end up having to crouch for those hulk kills.

    • @Mr_Big_Head
      @Mr_Big_Head Před 4 měsíci +2

      Definitely don’t need shield backpack

    • @gangsterguardsman4576
      @gangsterguardsman4576 Před 4 měsíci

      Laser is great against gunships too

    • @noxiebobo
      @noxiebobo Před 4 měsíci

      I main laser cannon vs bots and never use shield backpack. Definitely not needed.

  • @KillFrenzy96
    @KillFrenzy96 Před 4 měsíci +1

    By the way, Orbital Gas can destroy fabricators. The very short cooldown helps a lot too.

    • @dukes4636
      @dukes4636 Před 4 měsíci

      He mentioned that in this vid lol

  • @Locoking420
    @Locoking420 Před 4 měsíci

    Have to say jet pack needs more love. I run heavy armor with explosive resistance. Never have used a shield, do like the list gave me some things to try

  • @GrubKiller436
    @GrubKiller436 Před 4 měsíci

    You don't need supply packs for support weapons like Machine Guns. Not only do these have a lot of ammo and you have your primary and secondary weapons, you also have resupply (or find ammo lying on the ground) which will restock your entire ammo reserves.
    The supply pack is not necessary, I'd say even overkill when carrying a support weapon like machine guns. You're better off running a shield generator pack.

  • @SilentButDudley
    @SilentButDudley Před 4 měsíci +2

    I think the 500KG is A tier solely because the Airstrike exists and just does everything better in bots… it lowers its value completely.

    • @MeisterKleisterHeisstEr
      @MeisterKleisterHeisstEr Před 4 měsíci +1

      500KG can destroy Eye of Sauron and jammers. Also more consistent against Bile Titans.

  • @MeisterKleisterHeisstEr
    @MeisterKleisterHeisstEr Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the tier list, Maplewood! Super helpful! :D
    I'd love to see lists like this for primary weapons.

  • @ItsAlpa
    @ItsAlpa Před 4 měsíci

    This guy would be a great dev. He explains with very very good reason why everything is where it is and it's 100% accurate in most of the communities eyes probably

  • @Radiance141
    @Radiance141 Před 4 měsíci

    The cat stratagem is still S tier in my opinion, just too powerful, it charms us and it can even crit and make someone subscribe!

  • @redcenturion88
    @redcenturion88 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The turret health buff from the ship upgrades does absolutely nothing. 50% reduction in 1000 points of damage is still lethal. Dumb af

  • @duross101
    @duross101 Před 4 měsíci

    I do think the orbital precision is way stronger than people think mainly due to its very short cooldown and insane power, especially considering the majority of the bots are far slower than the bugs.

  • @m4xfl4xst4r
    @m4xfl4xst4r Před 3 měsíci

    Re air burst RL, wait for the bot drop and fire above the devastators to one shot the factory strider.

  • @mochiboot6502
    @mochiboot6502 Před 4 měsíci +4

    loved your previous tier lists and just discovered you today actually, so it's great to get to feast on this new upload as well. Good to see your lil homie on the shoulder is there as well

  • @gVert404
    @gVert404 Před 4 měsíci

    I wouldn’t say the Flamethrower needs a buff even though it’s useless against bots because it’s not really meant for fighting them. It already serves it purpose amazingly for bugs and trying to make it viable for bots would make it insanely OP for bugs

  • @Jman0163
    @Jman0163 Před 4 měsíci

    i just love rocket pods cuz i can use it so often. its nice to have a "eagle one erase this man" button at the ready almost anytime.

  • @Garfield91076
    @Garfield91076 Před 4 měsíci +23

    RIP Eruptor 😭

    • @joemamma953
      @joemamma953 Před 4 měsíci +2

      it’s still good, just not OP like it was before

    • @joemamma953
      @joemamma953 Před 4 měsíci

      like you can still destroy nests and fabs with it.

    • @romarikanugames
      @romarikanugames Před 4 měsíci

      Yall used the Eruptor for add clear and that’s why you think it’s dead. It’s NOT for that. The weapon is perfectly fine.

    • @john-paul3271
      @john-paul3271 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Best grenade pistol in the game. 😝

    • @s2wuolf508
      @s2wuolf508 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@romarikanugamesits painful vs devastators now, you no longer 1 shot them at their hip weakpoint. The great thing abt it was how effective it was vs devs and they took it away. You don’t know what you are talking about and frankly the ammo nerf was justified but nerfing its dmg was fd

  • @marcusdeoliveira5036
    @marcusdeoliveira5036 Před 4 měsíci

    Say what you want but I've witnessed a minigun turret take down a hulk. I use them as I strategically reposition, I throw the turret in front of me and use it to cover me as I run past it, takes out most chaff and as I said it managed to drop a hulk.

  • @klopson9703
    @klopson9703 Před 4 měsíci

    Friendly reminder that 380 also destroys Sauron eye and Bunkers (with new ship upgrades you cant miss them).

  • @ramsenc
    @ramsenc Před 4 měsíci +4

    380 is probably S now. Too good on bases and bot armies with infinite uses.

  • @attilatrosch2511
    @attilatrosch2511 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Nice love your tier lists🎉 thx for the content

  • @Davernn
    @Davernn Před 4 měsíci +1

    You forgot the most important Strategem of them all: Reinforcements! Can't complete the mission if all your buddies are dead!

  • @talltales845
    @talltales845 Před 4 měsíci

    Orbital EMS deserves some more respect. It’s a fast cool down lifesaver and a good team pick for when things get close quarters and you’re low on reinforcements

    • @ernestgibson8792
      @ernestgibson8792 Před 4 měsíci

      orbital ems should at least slow bile titans. its a giant stun blast from a battle ship.

  • @Mr_Big_Head
    @Mr_Big_Head Před 4 měsíci

    You absolutely can use the spear up close. I’ve one shot hulks 5-10 meters away. Gotta crouch/aim down or even prone.

  • @dztrict1000
    @dztrict1000 Před 3 měsíci

    Orbital Railgun is so overrated i feel, it has a crazy long cooldown, can't kill factory striders, and Orbital Precision Strike already does pretty much the same thing with a smaller cooldown. If you wanted to use it against hulks just bring an AMR and stuns and you're set

  • @happy_labs
    @happy_labs Před 4 měsíci

    Please add a Luna tier at the top next time and move her cam up there at the end 🙏

  • @Mr_Big_Head
    @Mr_Big_Head Před 4 měsíci

    LC is by far the best anti gunship. Then spear, AC, AMR, RR then quasar. That cooldown sucks when there’s multiple gunships

  • @romarikanugames
    @romarikanugames Před 4 měsíci +1

    11:56 Luna is S+++ God Tier

  • @defenstrator4660
    @defenstrator4660 Před 4 měsíci

    The only thing I want from anti tank mines is that they aren’t set off by Helldivers.

    • @Danthepanman1
      @Danthepanman1 Před 3 měsíci

      If they want to be more realistic then they should make it so all but the heaviest of armor don’t set it off

  • @Testeverything521
    @Testeverything521 Před 3 měsíci

    quasar cannon takes out a factory strider in two shots to the eye?

  • @FlawlessKam
    @FlawlessKam Před 4 měsíci

    Orbital laser needs a cooldown buff, I’m cool with the limited use but it takes way too long to use it after you’ve used it once

  • @Idk_what_to_write_so_um_pvp
    @Idk_what_to_write_so_um_pvp Před 4 měsíci +1

    Really love these tier lists keep it up

  • @GrimJackal
    @GrimJackal Před 4 měsíci

    The laser Rover is amazing against bots. Only one I strongly disagree with.

  • @reaper9749
    @reaper9749 Před 4 měsíci

    One of the very rare tier list which i 100% i agree upon

  • @ci825
    @ci825 Před 4 měsíci

    I saw someone say the jump pack should get jet trails to give the wearer a general speed boost when just running

  • @BrandonTConklin
    @BrandonTConklin Před 4 měsíci

    Even with the Advanced Construction ship module, I feel like Turrets die fairly quick

  • @the-bonser3059
    @the-bonser3059 Před 4 měsíci

    Grenade Launcher is easy A or S tier stop the cap! It can fuck up tanks in less than half a mag to the heat vent or side turret and also not being able to kill hulks is not the hallmark of a bad stratagem, use stun, wrap round and nade it’s vent. I will not accept the heresy of grenade launcher being B when it consistently puts me at most kills with least deaths on team vs bots.

    • @GrubKiller436
      @GrubKiller436 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah but stun grenade is in a premium warbond (I have it, but just saying)

  • @yomommamonkey
    @yomommamonkey Před 3 měsíci

    Most the time if you play shield right it won’t blow up.

  • @ernestgibson8792
    @ernestgibson8792 Před 4 měsíci

    guard dog is still meh. runs out of ammo so fast half the time its empty. it should really target light armor targets first instead of blowing its load on things it cant kill.

  • @RonaldMcDonald519
    @RonaldMcDonald519 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just watched the bugs one lets go!

  • @TajinQ
    @TajinQ Před 4 měsíci

    Wait bots actually get damaged by gas? How does that even make sense?

    • @mratl2k3
      @mratl2k3 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I would guess that the gas has corrosive properties that can melt circuits as well as bio.

    • @GamesDiddley
      @GamesDiddley Před 3 měsíci

      It’s acid in form of gas I believe

  • @PhilipJFry-h8v
    @PhilipJFry-h8v Před 4 měsíci +1

    good stuff as always

  • @ehhhhhhhh7
    @ehhhhhhhh7 Před 2 měsíci

    Railcannon is overratet, the cooldown is waaaaay tooo long, u can use is 9 times or so in a game, compared to the 500kg wich can used arround 36-40 times or the obrital strike with arround 30 times. Its not even onehitting bile titans.. idk i would never run that stratagem cause there are multiple better options

  • @MeisterKleisterHeisstEr
    @MeisterKleisterHeisstEr Před 4 měsíci

    24:00 Wait, I thought they *fixed* the scopes recently!

  • @PredatedCargo77
    @PredatedCargo77 Před 4 měsíci

    Here for the cat honestly lol

  • @Mr_Big_Head
    @Mr_Big_Head Před 4 měsíci

    Orbital gas is already working. They fixed dot

  • @manueljuarez5045
    @manueljuarez5045 Před 3 měsíci

    Laser cannon can body hulks

  • @technolibra
    @technolibra Před 4 měsíci

    get my man out of free jail

  • @jordee8081
    @jordee8081 Před 4 měsíci

    Hate your video. Now I want a cat (great tier list)

  • @Mr_Big_Head
    @Mr_Big_Head Před 4 měsíci

    Precision strike takes out detector, jammer and rogue station

    • @noxiebobo
      @noxiebobo Před 4 měsíci

      As does 500kg

    • @Danthepanman1
      @Danthepanman1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      As does 380mm barrage

    • @Mr_Big_Head
      @Mr_Big_Head Před 3 měsíci

      @@noxiebobo yep, I find precision strike more reliable.

    • @Mr_Big_Head
      @Mr_Big_Head Před 3 měsíci

      @@Danthepanman1 it does as does the 120. I typically save the 380 for larger bases. I like the quick cooldown on the precision strike as well.

  • @Fuzzy452
    @Fuzzy452 Před 4 měsíci

    Let’s be real the best strategem is the cat

  • @Mr_Big_Head
    @Mr_Big_Head Před 4 měsíci

    Dude you don’t know what you’re talking about with ballistic shield. It is absolutely S-tier. Just go watch some other CZcamsrs run zero death helldive runs with it.
    That health bar takes so many rockets you will die multiple times before it breaks from rockets. You also take almost zero damage if you have it up when you get hit with a rocket.

  • @GrubKiller436
    @GrubKiller436 Před 4 měsíci

    380MM Barrage is better than Orbital Laser.
    Throw the barrage in a base and run away.
    Many of times you may not even have to go back there.

    • @Whiteobamas
      @Whiteobamas Před 3 měsíci

      yes but try and use the 380 like how you use the laser and you will see why the laser is better

  • @ArlenPierce
    @ArlenPierce Před 4 měsíci

    Get out of free jail card

  • @godson985
    @godson985 Před 4 měsíci

    :

  • @carlosflores9487
    @carlosflores9487 Před 4 měsíci

    flamethrower!!??? bro wake the fuck up