Boosterplug FITTED to FZ1
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2017
- After the incredible effect that the Boosterplug had on my Versys 650, I HAD to get one for the FZ1-N and see if it could smooth out the jerky fuelling and make the bike more enjoyable to ride.
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Fitted a Booster Plug to my VN1700 after watching your last Video about it and all I can say is that it has made a terrific difference to my Bike, well worth the money.
+Mick Lawrence That i can well believe! Enjoy!
thanks to you i found out about the booster and i am impressed, made my 2010 hornet very smooth
Very happy to hear that! Enjoy!
I've noticed you're putting out more frequent content. EXCELLENT . Merry Christmas and I hope your subscriber numbers triple in the next year.
+To and Fro I do try! Hopefully i can keep it up! I've sent a letter to santa for triple subs. Just have to wait and see if I'm on the naughty or the nice list!
Thanks for sharing Andy, will be fitting mine soon.
Funny how sometimes things come toghether in a perfect manner. I just installed a full Arrow Thunder exhaust system on my 2017 Yamaha MT09 Tracer (Bought it last year based on your review of the bike!!) and a colleague of mine just encouraged me to install the Booster Plug. It´s a danish product and he knows some bike shop owners here in Denmark who use the product instead of the whole dyno power commander thing. It sounded very interesting and of course I wanted to look it up to read/watch some reviews of the product. Extremely happy to see that you´ve had some experince with the plug (that´s what she said) and I must say that now I won´t hesitate to add the thing to my motorcycle! (Such is the power of your influence!) But it also made me think how, when you go through videos/posts, (especially when it is about technical stuff) you have a tendency to mostly pay attention to the thing/subject that is present in your mind, at the time you watch the video. I have watched all your vids and I didn´t remember about the Booster Plug until I searched for it. Well that´s enough rambling. Thank you so much for your Videos. BTW I think maybe Patreon Andy Man Cam t-shirts might be in order soon??!! :D
That is a fine example of things coming good in the end! I totally agree that you only really see the things you're interested in. Plus I never expect everybody to be interested in all the content, so it's cool to discover older content that is suddenly now relevant! I had good experience with the booster plugs and I hope you've had the same mate.
New subscriber here. I have a Moto Guzzi California 1400 Custom. It was a mess. Fitted booster plug and some Lafranconi pipes and it’s superb now. You can actually ride it when it’s cold without fear. Before it was horrific when cold (open loop) and only eased up when closed loop (O2 sensors) were activated (engine hot). Now it’s wonderful when cold and even better when hot. I’m sure there are still occasions when it’s not perfect, but it’s a big Italian V-twin and that’s called character. Thanks Andy.
Glad to hear that you've had the same experience as me Ethelred! Enjoy that character mate! 😜
I never knew these things even existed. Been struggling with the jerky throttle response on multiple bikes, so this might be worth a try.
I would say definitely worth a try. They don't kill the problem completely, but certainly make it a whole lot better!
BTW Thanks for the tip on the book that Boosterplug makes available. I just downloaded it. I had previously found an article on motorbike fuel injection, but it was dated 2009 and was missing info on some brands of bikes.
+Fjdy1jd1 My pleasure. Have a good read. He's a very knowledgeable chap!
OK, I've read the whole book, and I am skeptical that it oversimplifies bike fuel injection. (But it does explain the O2 sensor in greater detail than what I've previously read.) In particular it only talks about mapping in terms of what is commonly called "Alpha-N". I have read previously that bikes usually use two different maps, (the other is called "Speed-Density), and switch from one to the other based on some threshold of throttle opening. In fact I even recently stumbled across a statement on one of Yamaha's own websites that specified that threshold for a particular model, (but I forgot to save the link). Take a read through this: www.motorcyclecruiser.com/how-electronic-fuel-injection-efi-works-how-to (but bear in mind this was written in 2009)
Hi and thanks for making me discover that tech part! Bought one for My FZ1 S 2007 and it changed radically the bike under 5000 rpm : lot smoother and responsive throttle as well as an engine break much more loose (which however isn't great on track as it forces you to (front) brake harder = less balanced breaking) .But as they say, why not pissing on the Power commander.
My pleasure! Glad it smoothed things out for you!
Thanks for sharing mate. I’ll have to look into that!
+vac0002 No worries mate!
Will be interested in one of these if i ever get an injection bike. Take care dude and mind yourself with that extra oomph.
+Minion Ninja16 Cheers mate! I'll try my best! 😎
Great review. I was struggling a little with my Versys due to on-off throttle and not entirely smooth performance, but it was nothing comparing to my new bike. It's a bigger L-twin engine and if I don't do something about it I'll be in trouble. I hope that Boosterplug will tame my beast.
+Borys Dewar Thanks Borys. Probably worth pinging an email to boosterplug to ask about their thoughts with your bike. They seem very honest and would likely be able to tell you what kind of improvement you could hope for.
Good vid - I ordered one for my FZ1 after watching this - thanks
Cheers Paul! Hope it does for you what it does for me!
Great delivery - Denmark to New Zealand in 4 days....Easy install... bike feels good.
Available for the XJ6! Tempting. Very tempting!
+smokeybarr If you've got jumpy fueling, i would recommend a try.
Another informative installation & review. It seems like a good investment. If only it fitted my bike :-( lol.
Keep up the great work, though it looks like I've plenty to get caught up on...!
Cheers Mark. It's a great and easy little fix. For me it's perfect, fit and forget. Quite a bit for you to catch up on mate, but better than having nothing 😉
Hi Andy, on your recommendation I got the Boosterplug fitted to my BMW r1200rs.......now super smooth, thanks!
Cool! Very happy to have helped mate!
Looks great I want one
Getting one this week for bobber black . Keep posted . Be a video of fitting and reaction
Hope it helps!
I watched you Alpine tour video (BTW. watching the episode with Bernardino pass was like a deja vu for me, when I did my video clip of my first trip in 2016 on my fazer, I used many exactly the same scenes!) and noticing you were riding an FZ1 that reminded me how jerky my FZ6 was (took a lot of fun away, the snatch was so terrible, going through hairpins, especially downhill was almost a chore) and to some extent it's smilar in my MT09 tracer. anyhow, I was impressed how smooth and confident you were cornering those hairpins and started wonderding if you had any of those issues, so instead of asking in comment section I figured I'd browse through your videos to see if you had that covered...and here I am! :) So, still, impressive how well you manage to corner with the yahama twitch in place! What I found is helping me a tonne is trail braking. If performed correctly, no twich throuout a corner (on a tracer, FZ6 was so bad I could not get around it). Also, DIY throttle cam mod helps a bit (you might try it yourself). It is amazing how much more joy riding gives when you have no twitch. It's literally like night and day. What I also noticed is that my bike behaves much better at some altitudes (like 1500m asl it gets much smoother on throttle reaction), so probably the MAP sensor has a lot do do with the fueling as well. Anyhow. It was fun to watch your Alpine series, I'm off to the Alps in a month after 2 years from my last visit there :) Can't wait!
Hey Eric, thanks very much for watching and very nice of you to compliment my attempts at beating the twitch!! I tried allsorts of tricks to get around it. This Boosterplug really helped below 4500rpm and also upping the CO setting inside the dash diagnostic area (not sure if you have that on your Tracer, I’m sure your forums could tell you). Above 4500 i tried a cheap trick with diodes wired in with the map sensor to trick the ECU somehow, though I think any effect there was psychological so i took it off!! Ultimately I just got the hang of cornering in lower gears than I really wanted to so that I could avoid the 4500+ dreaded fuel cut. It seems that the only way to truly unleash your bike is to get the ECU flashed and have the fuel cut switched off! Have a great time in the Alps mate, I’m desperate to get back there! Won’t be happening this year though 😩
@@AndyManCam I bingewatched your Alpine trip, now I'm up to the Croatia trip vids (just seen you dropping the bike!). I'm really enjoying the videos :) For me, the CO adjustment did nothing, both in Fazer and Tracer. I got my ECU flashed with the decel cutoff switched off but it didn't help too much. I think it needs complete remap to get rid of the snatch completely. what I'm afraid is happening even with things like boosterplug or O2 plug mod is that it still gets overriden by long term fuel trims by the ECU. so initially you might feel the difference, but over time the ECU will fight against it. the throttle tamer like throttle cam mod did the most for me I think. still, the snatch in the tracer isn't as bad as it used to be in the fazer. that was the main reason I got rid of the FZ6 (and I had some thoughts about selling the tracer too but again, if it wasn't for the snatch it's just a perfect bike). it was terrible in that only matter. other than that, perfect bike. in tracer, if throttle operated very precisely, no snatch, but that requires a lot of effort. so yeah. either a proper remap, but I mean a proper one by someone who actually worked it out and know what they're doing as turning off decel cutoff won't sort it, or perfectioning trail braking :) Thanks, fingers crossed the weather will be good :) you, even being in the northern Germany have it a bit easier getting there than us, staying in the UK at least not having to spend money on the ferries/trains ;) I'm often wondering, if I lived let's say 300 miles away from Alps, that would be just darn heaven. I thing I'd be there 4 times a year at least ;) All the best mate!
Living within 1 tank full of fuel from the Alps would be both heaven and a REAL problem for me!! I'd constantly be either there, or thinking about being there! Like a junkie living down the road from his dealer! :D
Yeah I think a complete remap is definitely the best way. I got the FTECU kit and it allows me to sideload Powercommander maps into the ECU. I found a bunch of maps from similarly specced bikes on the FZ1 forums and tweaked them until the butt dyno was happy. It seems that the biggest difference in terms of the snatch, was adding fuel in the 0% throttle area, so that the engine breaking is reduced and the off-on is therefore not so severe.
I mounted a booster plug on my K1200S last year and was very satisfied with the smoother throttle response and the improved gearing. But as time and miles went by I felt the bike got more and more jerky. I tried to disconnect the booster plug and there was no longer any difference. I reconnected it, nothing. A bmw mechanic I spoke to believed the bike's computer would adapt to the booster plug and gradually go back to the lean settings. I still have the plug fitted but it doesn't do anything anymore.
+McRoads Interesting. I couldn't possibly comment with my (lack of) expertise! I took the plug out of my versys after a year and the difference was instantly night and day!
Andy Man Cam I guess it probably depends on the bikes ecu. Let's hope your new bike stays as it is ☺
+McRoads I sure hope so!
Must be a carry over from car tech, my wife's Citroen has a learning ecu.
Well... After three months it would be interesting to know what actually happened with your Booster Plug. My ultimate guess is it simply stopped working. Actually that's also an undeniable possibility. On the oher hand, if your bike has a learning ECU, common behavior is that it ends up accommodating for changes made on exhaust or induction systems, not rejecting them after a while; unless BMW have tricked their ECU programming to reject instead of accomodate, but then there's a Booster Plug people mistake, since they overlooked such an important fact, which is hard but not impossible to assume. For non learning ECU, well, Booster Plug is supposed to equally do it's tricking job with no learning process involved nor required, as far as I know.
Sounds interesting. Especially as my Diva used to be a little bitchy on low RPMs. What about the famous German TÜV? Does a bike with the boost plug still meet the needs of the emissions test?
+Rhönschrat That's a grey area. I would imagine that all would be fine as they check emissions at steady RPM. At which point the O2 sensor should take over and the bike will run as stock. Otherwise, it depends how close to the emissions limit you are because when the plug is doing it's thing, you'll be making around 6% more bad gas!
man I am hyped about this plug. I have 2017 Tuono & city riding 30-50 kmh is a nightmare. Does your bike use more fuel?
Not that I've noticed. Last three fill ups i was on around 300km. Above average for even a standard fz1!
how is the low end city riding? 30kmh in 1st gear?
Great video and details on Booster Plug, quick question. Do you think the booster will help the lean condition with aftermarket slip on and k&n filter? Thanks
+Pibe 87 Thanks! Absolutely yes. I ran the Versys with exactly that setup and it went like a dream.
Hey! I love the video. I was wondering if anyone's used it too trouble shoot a bike only starting when a spark plug is removed?
Hi mate, been watching your videos religiously since the MK1 Fazer twin headlight "bodge", must admit, all very informative. I see you have new stickers coming, if there are any of the old ones left, I wouldn't say not to a couple. Let me know cost, and I'll gladly do a Paypal transaction. Keep them comng, RSM8
+Ian Collings Hi Ian! Very soon I'll be making the NEW stickers available! And of course I'll be chucking a few old ones into all purchases!
Hey AMC, have you also removed/blocked the AIS before installing the booster plug?
Great video, tell me what are you using for camera on the helmet with the audio looks and sounds great.
breakfast finished - perfect video timing! but what happened to the mirrors? they look like a windscreen - did you ride backwards on a highway earlier :D and I don't remember those hand guards, hope the turn signals will be the next step :)
+MaxTryk Perfect!! I just didn't get round to cleaning the labels off the mirrors properly. Indicators coming very soon! 😉
Thanks Andy for making these amazing vids. I'm fairly new to the bike world and during the past 7 months or so I started to follow few channels and bought my first bike 2007 fz1-s.
You've mentioned another channel at 3:07 but the name is not clear. I'm pretty sure it's not "Itchy Bum Moto Channel" (don't ask me how I know that :P). Would appreciate it if you'd type the name of that channel for me.
My pleasure Az and thanks for watching! The channel mentioned was @itchibanmoto 👍🏻
My bike is decatted and has a high flow air filter and is now running lean, do you think this would help it run richer so it wont damage my engine?
I'm sure it would help a little bit, but sadly not all the time as that's not how this gadget works. The only real way to fix lean running would be to get a tune up and ECU flash to correct your fuelling.
Careful you don't bin it in the bends with that extra boost! Sorry couldn't resist lol
+TheLikeableRider Haha! Touché!! 😂
Hi There, thanks for that again ! Quick Question, what about the fuel consumption ? haven't you noticed an increase
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My pleasure! Thanks for watching! I didn’t notice any increase in fuel consumption.
@@AndyManCam 2 month use, on my FZ1 and ~ 15 to 20% more fuel consomption... riding essentially in town, thniking that's why. Didn't yet tried it on long highway travel... Hoping that's not going to be the same as it should stop foolling the ECU in constant middle range ?
hi I've just brought a bmw s1000rr 18 model with 12000km it's jerkey and unsmooth under 4thousand revs ..Will a power comander do exactly what this booster plug does...or in other words would a power comander have fixed your bike. ..I'm thinking to get a power comander because I might be able to fine tune what the booster plug is doing and make it a little bit better again with different maps I can get.
That really depends. The boosterplug is Plug and Play (and forget). No Settings to worry about. The powercommander can definitely give the same results, but only if the maps are good. Comes down to how much faffing you’re willing to put in to get it right! 👍🏻
Do boosterplug help if my bike run Lean? Have grom with exhaust and intake
I think so, but I'm not sure if it will help all the time. The idea is that the boosterplug richen things with small and changing throttle mnovements. When you're cruising, it's supposed to let go and let the bike do it's own thing.
Hi there I would like to know do you tell your insurance company about the up grades, in the event of you having a crash would you be insured 👍
With regards to this one in particular, no. Mainly because it’s not a performance upgrade, as the Power of the bike isn’t affected. Otherwise I’ve also never mentioned any Upgrades to the insurance. In germany I’m pretty sure that the rule of thumb is that as long as the peak power of the bike isn’t increased by more than 10%, it doesn’t matter to the insurance company. Of course all add ons have to be 100% road legal and suited to the bike (often with relevant paperwork) otherwise that would potentially affect the insurance cover.
Silly questions after plug in there much diffrence in your bike ?? And what kind off diffrence can u plz tell
Big difference. Much smoother low end. Didn’t do anything to the cut over 4500rpm, but definitely improved ‚on/off‘ throttle.
I might be a "little" hung over but are those new work gloves? Looking forward to the "Boosterplug FITTED to FZ - Director's Cut" where you spend 14:55 minutes speaking about the gloves.
+psychotic memories Nah, i reckon there's at least a 4 part glove review series there somewhere...
But does this work on newer bikes like a 2017 tracer? These are equiped with anti tampering software to make sure the bike complies with EU regulations.
+Tim Van Damme No idea. I would think so as all that's changing is the value sent by the sensor. But you'll have to ask the folks at Boosterplug for a definitive answer.
Most modern biks are closed loop controlled. --> fuelling is ajusted based on what the ECU measures in the exhaust. The ECU will adjust fuel trims and correct for a faulty temperature signal. I would be surprised if this would work in the long term.
By being a smart arse, you’ve actually explained the reason why it DOES work. As i explained in the video. 🤦🏻♂️. The boosterplug makes adjustments during small throttle movements, relying on the fact that the closed loop system is not instant. Once steady throttle is achieved, the closed loop system catches up and corrects the fueling based on what the O2 Sensor is Reading in the exhaust fumes. Then when the throttle is moved again, the cycle repeats. It’s a short term and constantly changing state of affairs, and not simply 6% extra fuel the whole time. It worked on my bike for 2 years already.
@@AndyManCam just saying that I would be surprised if it works on the long term. The computer has long term and short-term fuel trims. I have done the experiment on my car by changing the resistance of the incoming air sensor. The result is that, after about half a tank of fuel, the short-term fuel trim is bouncing around zero and the long-term is -10%. It will work, untill the ecu catches up. But let me ask the question: what is stopping the ecu from correcting the long-term fuel trim?
You’re not getting it. The ECU adjusting the fuel trims is part of this thing working. The maps in the ECU don’t change and they aren’t adjusted. They’re just temporarily and short term tricked into accessing different areas of the map.
@@AndyManCam your wrong about that. Long term fuel adjustment is most certainly part of the adjustment mechanism of the ECU. I found a BMW forum where they measured the boosterplug with a wideband lambda sensor.
After full ECU rest and boosterplug install: Air fuel ratio is 12.1. After 30 minutes the air fuel ratio is back at target of 13.8. And this is measured in open loop!
forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php?56990-2004-R1150RT-Wideband-O2-Sensors&p=916282&viewfull=1#post916282
The only thing that will work is something that hacks the feedback loop. the rest is doomed to be corrected by the ECU.
Hey buddy first of all love your videos...I live in mumbai India and own a 2012 white fz1 here which is currently running a K&N replacement filter and a two brothers racing carbon fibre slip on exhaust . As the ambient air temperature here usually fluctuates between 30 to 40 degrees celcius, do you reckon the booster plug will be as effective on my fz1 as it is on yours ? Would really appreciate a reply. Thanks . Warm regards . And ride safe .🤙🤙
Hi Manmol. Thanks man! I think it would be, as it is engineered to best 'cheat' the ECU upon the ACTUAL ambient temp. But I'm not the expert! If you check the website and ask them I'm sure they'll quickly give you a far better informed and honest opinion.
Andy Man Cam thanks a lot. Will check with them before ordering. Thanks again. Ride safe and keep the videos coming. 😎✌🤙
I know this is an old video but I just bought myself a FZ1 SA (With the half fairing) and gotta say, LOVE IT but yes, there is indeed that jerky on and off throttle. This booster plug, how much does it affect the MPG?
I didn’t find it too affect the mpg in any way at all. 👍🏻
AndyManCam sweet! I guess I’ll try it out then 😁
How it works for you! 👍🏻
Did you have the boosterplug installed for the TÜV check and did you pass?
I’d already read about another FZ1 owner failing the AU with the Boosterplug installed, so i took it out.
how on gawd's green earth is fooling your ecu into thinking it's 20 degrees F cooler outside is going to improve shifting?
+m.w. Adams Engine braking is much softer. This is because more fuel is still being chucked into the cylinders on deceleration rather than just cutting it all together. This also means that when you quickly chop the throttle to shift, the revs don't instantly drop. Effectively allowing you to 'catch' the next gear quickly and better match the revs to where the next gear ideally wants to start pulling.
I had wondered why you thought you needed the Boosterplug on the Versys, but then I recently discovered something: Your Versys 650 is not the same as mine. Mine (2008 & 2009) does not have the O2 sensor which the Euro version has. So w/o an O2 sensor, the US version is obviously running purely in open-loop mode, while the Euro version must be running in closed-loop at least part of the time.
+Fjdy1jd1 Absolutely right. I've read of a few cases of people switching a US ECU into a Euro bike and getting all the benefits of the boosterplug.
I read that the 3rd generation Versys 650 (2015+) has ECU changes, but I know nothing about what changed.
+Fjdy1jd1 I think that sadly the later bikes were forced to have an O2 sensor. Not sure if that means the ECUs are the same though.
Hello , i have the same bike and i was looking for a power commander but i came across the booster plug, my main problems are extreme exhaust puffing when i let off the throttle and fuel consumption is increased because of that.. of course its jerky too in low rpms, so my question is , did it make your consumption better or worse? Because you said it tricks the ecu and gives more gas
I didn't notice any real difference in fuel economy. 👍🏻
@@AndyManCam is it good long term, any differences since then? Cause thats an old video, in case you still have it on please tell me if its worth it over an power commander and i will go for it ;)
Would getting the ecu properly flashed solved this directly?
Almost certainly. Probably the best way to fix it TBH.
Hast du das immer noch drin? Hilft es auch gegen die ruckartige Gasannahme bei umschalten?
Ich have sogar die Maschine nicht mehr! Aber ja, hast es damit geholfen. Alles bisschen geschmeidiger gelaufen.
Do like the odd jerky when the Sun comes out...
+Flatcap007 Ha! Don't we all! 🌞
shall get one for the mt10
any idea do performance air filter and decat exhaust affect the booster plug?
In my non expert opinion, I'd say that the filter and decat will affect the airflow. This in turn will affect how your O2 sensor tells the ECU to modify the mix. This in turn is very lightly affected by the booster plug, so you might be OK. Sadly the Boosterplug only really deals with small throttle openings and changing throttle position. So for cruising and high speed, the Boosterplug is no longer part of the equation. This means that the only way to really get things running at their best is on a Dyno. That said, you could try it and keep an eye on your spark plug condition to see if you're running lean. Could be that the ECU will take up the slack automatically.
@@AndyManCam for the mt10 the on and off throttle is the issue
once wide open or cruising is fine..
so i guess i could try the booster plug thanks !
How about the over all fuel consumption? More ore less?
Such a Small Change That it could be completely coincidental.
Patreon Supporter "Arthur Dent" @ 14:47 isn't he the main character from Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy???
+Spartan Rider That's him! Honoured to have him patronising the good ship AMC!
Throw more fuel in ? Guess your mpg figures go down then ,,? Cheers thumbs up Shane 🇬🇧 uk
Nope. MPG numbers have stayed pretty much the same. It’s not as simple as just throwing more fuel in. It works with the existing system to put a tiny bit more fuel in when the mix is typically too lean.
tiny bit more of fuel = rich mix. But not enough to drop mpg
4:18 Andy Man Cam then gave a stern talking to the mallet that let the tank and Andy Man Cam down both literally and figuratively respectively.
You're damned right! Can't have that kind of shoddy performance from my team members!
Why not flash your ecu? Does the same thing as the boosterplug by the sounds of it but you also get more power and you can get the bike set up to how you like.
+Cornish_ Boy Sure it does, and more. But it also costs 3 times as much and either means sending your ECU away or booking in dyno time. BP is not complete, but is quicker, easier, cheaper and I actually don't want any more power. 140bhp at the back wheel is already plenty thanks!
Andy Man Cam now much is a flash in Germany? Think mine cost around £200 and took about a week to get there and back to me.
+Cornish_ Boy Sadly it's (as ever) a little more complicated here. The flasher (tee hee) has to be certified otherwise the ECU is then deemed illegal and therefore the bike is no longer roadworthy. That drives up cost (try ca. 400€) Couple that with everything being in German and it's a recipe for disaster!
Andy Man Cam ah ok
Hey Andyman, who about a long term view on this product?
That sounds like a very reasonable request! The thing is, it would be a relatively quick video! I fitted it and then simply forgot about it. The effect it had on the fuelling of the bike is still the same and my fuel economy is not at all affected! Unless I get any kind of ECU reflash work done, it'll be staying exactly where it is!
@@AndyManCam I have just fitted one to my bike and it immediately made a huge difference for the good. However...... I have read that the ECU gradually gets used to being lied to by the BP and adapts back to its original lean and nasty self. How many kilometers have you done and do you think the effects are lessening? Would really appreciate your advice. Thanks for you time.
That sensor is lying to the computer. It's bypassing the factory senor and that sensor on the new pigtail harness is in open air (colder air) which is more dense so the computer sees the false air temp and adds more fuel. It's cute that his sticker shows it pushing on power commander when booster plug is a mock off device. They have those for cars and it does the same thing. All fun and games until you have a super hot day or a very cold day
Erm... that's entirely the whole point of it! I've been out on hot days, cold days and both at altitude. Bike runs just perfect, better than ever at stock setup and no change in power or fuel economy. 👌
Yea as AMC explained, it only effects fueling when giving it throttle and even if the ECU did not adjust to stock settings at a cruise it would not effect heat of the engine. The cooling system and air circulation regulates that and a little extra fueling will not effect the combustion heat a noticeable amount and the cooling system is capable of such an extremely small change.
The sensor the unit uses for the ambient air temp is just to make sure the device adjusts as accurately as possible, other similar products just don't do that and probably messes up the fueling. It's a great thing really, especially as these bikes (maybe more so with some than others), run lean from factory settings. If money is no issue just have the ECU custom tuned for best results all round.
What he said. 😁
@@AndyManCam 😂
what about fuel economy impact using this?
Practically unnoticeable. So small in fact, that it could have just been circumstantial.
So its a sensor extension.
Hmmm 🤔
What about the handguards?
+Stephen McQueen They're cheap nasty ebay purchases that don't deserve their own video! 😂😂
How much does it make your fuel consumption worse?
I can honestly say that the difference is unnoticeable. I'm still getting around 275-300km from a tank full.
hi my friend did you gain more power? torque?. im very interested for my nc750x.
Hi Gerardo. No power gains, but that’s not what this is for. It just smooths out the jerkiness at small throttle movements.
@@AndyManCam thanks for quick answer, but i don't get the point,. you mean like tracción control?.
No. Nothing like that. I think that if you don’t know the problem, you don’t need the plug!
Hi Andy I'm a big fan of your channel I just wanted to know about letting your insurance know on upgrading your bike as u don't tell my insurance either many thanks
My pleasure Anthony. Cheers!
Where are you buy this Booster? I search a Booster plug for fzs600 bj. 2000
go to www.boosterplug.com
@@AndyManCam here i have not found my Modell
i own fz1 myself and i do not see any problem with my bike
Good for you! Either it's been fixed by a previous owner, you have a much later ECU or it just doesn't bother you. Either way, you'Re winning! I think the stock fuelling on mine is terrible!
agreed, my 2006 jerks like crazy when getting on or off the throttle. gonna grab one of these soon, thanks!
Where did you get the mirrors from?
Www.Louis.de
Green cable ties maybe the strongest but everyone knows black cable ties are the fastest. You don’t want to use slow blue or red ones on you’re bike.
Wise words!
Fitted to a versys 650. It did nothing, returned and got a refund. Suppose it could have been a faulty one but for me it did nothing.
Does it boost, this plug? Also, does the fly-catcher actually catch any, i.e. make a difference on the freeway?
+disekjoumoer It boosts response at the low end. But overall power boosting it doesn't do! The little screen actually pushes the air up to middle of the sternum kind of height. So bit much, but a bit.
Don't forget that your insurance can give you trouble if you cause an accident and they figure out you had something like a booster plug on your bike.
+grimtube It's a bit of a grey area as this chip doesn't add any power to the bike and also barely affects fuel economy and therefore emissions. I guess I'll have to ask my friendly neighbourhood TüV tester next time i go in!
Does this affect the fuel economy not that we as riders care to much but was just wondering
I hope somebody answers :)
It didn’t really effect the fuel economy at all. I didn’t notice any difference at least.
@@AndyManCam OmG thank you for answer. Actually im stupid..i should watch videos to the end. Haha. You said it in video. Thank you for sharing your time in videos, i really enjoy watching you.
It worries me that more fuel will be forced in and heat the engine up, not sure but that booster plug worries me from that perspective
More fuel actually has the exact opposite effect. Too little fuel is what causes engines to run hot. It also causes engines to run rough as the lean mix can tend to pre-detonate. So more fuel actually helps to smooth things out too.
@@AndyManCam yeah you're right, I just mixed up rich and lean sorry. I remember running it to rich can;
- make it harder to pass an MOT due to the extra unburnt fuel/ carbon monoxide being thrown out of the back
- it can smell more
- bad fuel but you did touch on this
- loss in power, this could be why you have a smoother running bike as there is a drop in power
- poor idle, your engine didn't seem to run smooth from listening to the vid
- clogged parts due to unburnt fuel, this could be expensive on replacing a cat for the all important not in England.
Sorry, I haven't said all this to cause an argument I just want those who don't know to be aware, especially with older vehicles and people buying bikes with this stuff done to them
From the factory standard fueling of any electric fuel injected bike, there is pretty much no chance that this gadget will richen the mix enough to do any of that. It’s a short lived change of about 6% and is straight away counteracted by the O2 sensor and ECU. It’s intended only to give a tiny bit more fuel during small throttle movements. Not a continuous increase of fuel. I’ve not even noticed an increase in fuel consumption over many thousands of miles, so small is the difference. Also there are countless videos on the tubes outlining how there is actually a relatively wide envelope within which the air/fuel mix has almost no effect on power. It simply affects how hot/cool, smooth/rough the engine runs. No way that the BP is operating anywhere near the realms of increasing or decreasing power.
Have you fitted a K&N air filter?
Nope. Standard air filter. Probably due a change though!!
Andy Man Cam Fitted a K&N last year accelerate and the front wants to come. Increases the grin factor
Might consider a better breather when I next change mine then.
Will this work if i get my ecu reflashed?
If you get your ECU reflashed, then that should do the job of the Boosterplug. If you still need this after a reflash, then I'd suggest that your tune wasn't very good.
Thanks, Andy. Love your vids
But I like the popping in the exhaust haha
So do I! And TBH that's the only promise of this plug that I don't understand. I think mine actually popped MORE as there was a tiny bit more fuel in the mix, making it'S way in to the hot pipes. And to me, that's no bad thing!!
Good to hear, I will put it on my wish list. I recently bought a FZ1 that's why I found your channel. Great videos! Mine FZ1 I bought with minor damage, so first going to fix that. Looking forward to more FZ1 videos.
And indeed, popping exhaust is definitely not a bad thing. Haha
Welcome to the team! Hope the fix goes well and you get to start enjoying that amazing and underestimated machine!
@@AndyManCam thanks! I'm a mechanic so the fix is no problem. Im waiting for parts. But I already ride it, and I must say I'm surprisingly impressed. The low end tourqe is impressive for a 4 cilinder. I thought maybe I will miss the instant torque from my old bike that was a Cagiva Raptor 1000cc vtwin. But the FZ1 is just completely different in a good way haha.
What year is your fz1?
It's a 2006 mate.
Where did you get those mirrors from?
www.louis.de You can change the language and they deliver everywhere!
Does flashing your ECU make the boosterplug obsolete ?
It really depends on the flash! If the new fuelling takes care of the problems that the Boosterplug fixes, then yes.
I have a 2008 FZ1 and I think I only get about 120 out of a tank, fuel light comes on after 100 miles
Wow. Has it been remapped? Or do you have a powercommander? Or do you just ride everywhere at 11,000rpm!?! I would assume something wasn’t right if I was getting that kind of mileage. The bike would be unusable for me!
Andy Man Cam Hasn’t been remapped have added a K&N Air Filter to see if that helps. PC5 is next and a remap
Strange. Maybe MINE has been remapped then?! :D Hopefully after a remap you'll get some better mileage out of it.
Andy Man Cam Looking to fit a full Akro system increased BHP reduced weight and and remap
It’ll be a bit of a weapon after you’ve done all that! 👌
So this would give you less gas mileage then???
Theoretically, yes. But it is to such a minute degree that I never noticed any difference in my range. Though to be honest, I would happily give up a little gas mileage if the bike is then more enjoyable to ride.
I wouldn't install that on any of my bikes. I've heard there's more adverse effects than positive.
I’ve had them on 3 different bikes now and haven’t noticed a single adverse effect. I’m honestly not sure what adverse effects there could be. What did you hear?
Bad Ass :-}
+patches350 Cheers patches!
hmmm.
+woritsez Care to elaborate? Maybe a vowel or two?
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"hmm, interesting idea"
+woritsez and which is it?
Scamplug
I actually found that it made a difference. If you can go without or even make your own, then have at it.
sorry to say this but yes it does exactly what it says on the tin - but that isnt a good thing you will now be running rich and fouling plugs like mad yes i would rather run rich than lean but i would rather run perfect than rich its called air intake temperature not wind chill temperature
this is just another version of the nasty plug and play 'chips' that the boy racers use, you are going to hate that come summer time
+DISORDERLY PUNK Actually no, it won't. You clearly didn't listen to anything i said. 🙄 Not least that I've already had one in another bike and i loved it. Especially in summer.
The thing is, all vehicles run lean - it's by design and combustion theory, but what's more relevant is ecological rules manufacturers forced to comply with so they make the mixture even leaner.
This is why he discussed the role of the O2 sensor, to ensure the mix doesn't run too rich.
+MaxTryk I was surprised to find out that for best performance they should run even leaner! But then driveability and performance don't adhere to the same rules!! 😂
+Garth Howe Exactly! But thats youtube commenting rules 101. 'Don't listen to info, comment that info was missing' 😂😂