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Träumerie - When Schumann Had A Dream

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  • čas přidán 12. 01. 2024
  • Robert Schumann composed Träumerie in 1838. It is the still, dreamy, central 7th piece in a cycle of 13 pieces called Kinderszenen (‘Scenes from Childhood’). Its wonderful evocation of dreaminess grows out of its rhythmic ambiguity and the beautiful subtleties of its melodic and harmonic writing. Each phrase floats like a song melody and then dissolves in a delicate web of counterpoint.
    Robert Schumann: Träumerei (1838)
    Pianist: Matthew King.
    A longer video about this music, with detailed discussion, can be seen here: • Träumerei: Schumann's ...
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    Edited by Ian Coulter ( www.iancoulter... )
    Produced and directed by Ian Coulter & Matthew King

Komentáře • 86

  • @vibey8558
    @vibey8558 Před 7 měsíci +65

    Pieces like this are why I absolutely adore romanticism and everything about it

  • @solomon525
    @solomon525 Před 7 měsíci +26

    SCHUMANN IS THE GOAT. KREISLERIANA, DAVIDSBUNDLERTANZE, PAPILLONS, CARNAVAL, SYMPHONIC ETUDES, PIANO CONCERTO, AND ANY OTHER PIECE. This man exemplifies the poetry of music in general and is not only a composer; but one of the greatest artists to ever live.

  • @ruanpingshan
    @ruanpingshan Před 7 měsíci +103

    Can't believe I ignored this piece for 20 years just because it was overused in one men's clothing ad.

    • @ldhdjzjjaklzjdbd6610
      @ldhdjzjjaklzjdbd6610 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Which ad?

    • @operamiser
      @operamiser Před 7 měsíci +2

      please don't tell us more!!!!

    • @sourjyabanerjee9310
      @sourjyabanerjee9310 Před 6 měsíci

      Raymond's ​@@ldhdjzjjaklzjdbd6610

    • @riverstun
      @riverstun Před 6 měsíci +14

      Cultural pollution is a serious problem. Take a palm tree. The image, the symbol, conjures up a specific feeling. Desert Island; Coconuts, etc. But when every gas station has one planted in the forecourt, the thing is overused, and the symbol becomes associated with gas fumes, your local city, and advertisement by advertisement, the beauty of the thing is lost.

    • @Thomas-yl8lb
      @Thomas-yl8lb Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@riverstun yep

  • @ericleiter6179
    @ericleiter6179 Před 7 měsíci +28

    Absolutely beautiful...The inner voice movement in Schumann should never be underestimated, he was a poetic genius and a subtle master of counterpoint. I'm reminded of a story I read somewhere about a newspaper critic who was putting down the complexity of the Second Viennese School, saying something to the effect that they should all aim to write more "simple" music like Schumann...the following week, Alban Berg responded with a deep dive analysis of this piece, showing how deceptively simple it may sound, but is really constructed on a very sophisticated and subtle level, especially pointing out the inner voice movement and forward looking (for its time) harmony...let alone the gorgeous melody that puts the listener in a state of reverie

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 7 měsíci +8

      Thank you. Yes, absolutely right. Berg had a very strong connection with Schumann - they are both multilayered composers whose music tends towards labyrinthine inner structures, often with concealed codes and cyphers.

  • @Actuenligne
    @Actuenligne Před 7 měsíci +36

    Absolutely loved this format: short, to the point, visually educative. Thank you very much!

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 Před 7 měsíci +21

    I'm playing the Liszt transcription of his "Widmung" right now! It was apparently one of Clara's favorites.

    • @Isaac-pr8xh
      @Isaac-pr8xh Před 7 měsíci +3

      One heck of a wedding gift that’s for sure.

  • @Solfonny
    @Solfonny Před 7 měsíci +10

    Kinderszenen has so many gems. I'm partial to Kind Em Einschlummern. Schumann's at his best in his lyrical, Eusebian pieces in my opinion.

  • @karolcpm-
    @karolcpm- Před 5 měsíci

    Schumann has become one of my favorite composers lately, and these videos have had me appreciate Schumann a lot more.
    The magical chord at 2:03 is a favorite moment.

  • @MuhDog
    @MuhDog Před 4 měsíci +1

    The V7/V turning the melody into appoggiatura is such an amazing color

  • @jhonwask
    @jhonwask Před 7 měsíci +3

    That is one of my favourite Schumann pieces.

  • @gabrelconner9146
    @gabrelconner9146 Před 6 měsíci +1

    An absolute masterpiece

  • @Shawnbae26
    @Shawnbae26 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Please keep doing these kind of analysis!! Very helpful to understand music!,!,

  • @brianballinger100
    @brianballinger100 Před 7 měsíci +3

    These kinds of videos are my favorite! Love your channel!

  • @hauthot287
    @hauthot287 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I love Schumanns counterpoint

  • @timothy4664
    @timothy4664 Před 7 měsíci +1

    My favorite composition of all time. Okay, that's a bit much. It always evokes a strong emotion from me. I closed my senior recital with it and though technically far easier than the other works I performed, i was proudest of how I played Traumerai that day.

  • @j9rq560
    @j9rq560 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice! I played this one for Jazz Band MPA last year

  • @susanfleming3128
    @susanfleming3128 Před 7 měsíci +2

    It's a beautiful piece

  • @pauljarski7590
    @pauljarski7590 Před 5 měsíci

    This interpretation could not be less dreamy.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 5 měsíci

      Please record your own more dreamy interpretation and share it with us.

  • @prototropo
    @prototropo Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love Schumann but whoah, what? Wait-A-Fat-Minute!: There is no way he tops Beethoven. Having clarified that bit of provocative blithery, I love the narration. And I think Schumann's finale to his piano concerti is one of the highest moments in all of Western Art.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 7 měsíci +3

      He's a wonderful composer. The blithery is just a provocation!

  • @TrainFlood
    @TrainFlood Před 5 měsíci

    Wow your captions really did capture so much if what I’ve daydreamed about when Ive heard this. Love what you do!

  • @Wolfganger
    @Wolfganger Před 7 měsíci +1

    Gorgeous.

  • @DaninMaine
    @DaninMaine Před 5 měsíci

    I have sung some of his incredible lieder, and the miraculous piano parts are as important as the vocal line and the poetry more than in most other composers' work.

  • @philipthonemann2524
    @philipthonemann2524 Před 6 měsíci

    A great piece!

  • @kuruczalbert
    @kuruczalbert Před 7 měsíci +4

    Great piano play. And a great illustration. You are really the pro.

  • @jimmy4thewin889
    @jimmy4thewin889 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I beg you kind Sir, analyse a Brahms piece for us dear Brahmsians. It would really be appreciated! I’d certainly enjoy some words about op. 117. no. 1, which always brings a tear to my eye because of its saddening motto and melody.

  • @paulograca3937
    @paulograca3937 Před 6 měsíci

    Very interresting

  • @jonathanbeeson8614
    @jonathanbeeson8614 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Beautiful presentation and performance. Thank you !

  • @Shawnbae26
    @Shawnbae26 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Is the CAA(Clara) part really intended by him?? Wow

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Well, it seems likely, knowing how much he liked musical ciphers and hidden messages.

    • @theblackpearl8632
      @theblackpearl8632 Před měsícem

      @@themusicprofessor That's seriously romantic!

  • @wolfunplugged
    @wolfunplugged Před 7 měsíci +2

    thanks for this super analysis...I really enjoyed that, also the sound of the piano! what for a precious piece of music. of which girl might have schumann dreamt as he wrote this? was it clara?

  • @zevelgamer.
    @zevelgamer. Před 4 měsíci

    I'm gonna start learning it by next week. Wish me luck because I'm a beginner.

  • @elemusic19
    @elemusic19 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Pieces like this are why I believe F major to be the most sublime major key.

    • @joe_z
      @joe_z Před 7 měsíci

      I mean, you could transpose it?

  • @maestrotheoretically519
    @maestrotheoretically519 Před 7 měsíci +5

    what kind of piano have you got that tone is beautiful!!

  • @pastatiramisuu3874
    @pastatiramisuu3874 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Why are there two metronome markings given - one in brackets? Please excuse my ignorance.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 7 měsíci +1

      We were unable use a first edition for this film. There is no metronome marking or even a tempo marking in the first edition. The metronome marks are added by a later editor - I presume there are two to suggest a range of possibilities between them

    • @pastatiramisuu3874
      @pastatiramisuu3874 Před 7 měsíci

      How interesting Thank you for all the knowledge and insight that you have shared.@@themusicprofessor

  • @pdqbachfan
    @pdqbachfan Před 7 měsíci

    Are you going to do the Variations on a theme by Gluck?

  • @HunterBelkiran
    @HunterBelkiran Před 7 měsíci

    do different keys evoke different feelings, or is that just something we've been sold over time?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 7 měsíci +4

      As with most things, it's really about context: different keys evoke different feelings in relation to each other. But keys always have had specific characters connected to them: e.g. D major has traditionally been a bright key, because of the sound of open strings, E flat has a connection with 'heroism' because of the sound of brass instrument in that key etc. F major, the lkey of Schumann's Täumerie has an old association with Pastoral and, by association, with serenity, both of which seem to be evoked in Schumann's music.

    • @HunterBelkiran
      @HunterBelkiran Před 7 měsíci

      Very interesting! I've always wondered about this. Thank you for the detailed reply.@@themusicprofessor

  • @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay
    @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay Před 7 měsíci

    Is that Clara reference really intentional by Schumann?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Knowing Schumann's love of musical ciphers, I think it very likely.

  • @samsapiel4104
    @samsapiel4104 Před 7 měsíci

    "Träumerei" is more meant as the process of day dreaming. So the title of this video does not seem to fit properly.

  • @maxwoefull3460
    @maxwoefull3460 Před 6 měsíci

    I dunno, i think Beethoven would make an adagio from this, it would be really interesting

  • @juginhexa2720
    @juginhexa2720 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Is it just me or does it really sound like gospel music?

  • @Archiekunst
    @Archiekunst Před 7 měsíci +1

    Shouldn't D minor be vi and not ii?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 7 měsíci +3

      ii in the new key: C major

    • @Rob-wg9nz
      @Rob-wg9nz Před 7 měsíci +2

      The progression goes from F(tonic) to A7(V of the relative minor as you say) to D minor (vi because of the A7 but also ii of the ii-V-I in Cmajor) to G7 to C than C7 to go back to F.
      The simplest way is to think of the progression as a I-III-vi-ii-V in F where the III and the ii are converted to a dominant chord to create local key centers. This happens all the time in Romantic music and jazz.

    • @Archiekunst
      @Archiekunst Před 7 měsíci

      ​@themusicprofessor Another quick question. I've always wondered, why that clunky G9 chord with 3rds in the lower register with a doubling of the B note as well? Why not spread the chord out with G-D-B or something instead of G-B-B? Don't 3rds in lower registers make it sound strange?
      Or is it all just to make sense by voice leading? But why bother, it's not a quartet. Sometimes when I play, I spread out the chord like G-G-D-B. Blaspheming am I?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Archiekunst It's an interesting question. From a voice leading point of view it's challenging because it's a step up from F to G with all sorts of potential parallelisms. It may not be a quartet, but for Schumann (or any composer) the counterpoint has to work. The low B is partly a question of avoiding a consecutive 5th which he would get if he went for the G-D-B formation you suggest. Secondly, I think that chord spacing is an extraordinarily rich and interesting topic: apprentice musicians are always (rightly) taught to avoid low thirds but advanced composers can - depending on taste and preference - use these kinds of spacings. Some composers (Chopin, for example) hardly ever do and, and others (e.g. Beethoven) are quite fond of the heavy over-saturated effect of the low third. In the 20th century, Stravinsky made something of a speciality out of growly low thirds (e.g. the opening chord of his Symphony of Psalms) and the spacing of Schumann's chord is actually not a million miles from Stravinsky: it's an absolutely unique chord spacing and that I think contributes to its magical effect, but it has to be played right! It's difficult to execute, like all Schumann!

  • @ClassicalRaritiesChannel
    @ClassicalRaritiesChannel Před 7 měsíci

    Does not feel dreamy at all when played like this.

  • @FrostDirt
    @FrostDirt Před 7 měsíci

    This is basically a berceuse.

  • @vincent-ataramaniko
    @vincent-ataramaniko Před 7 měsíci

    I don't approve the clickbait image but very nice video otherwise

  • @veganzworld
    @veganzworld Před 6 měsíci +1

    Schumann was gay

  • @johnqpublic4662
    @johnqpublic4662 Před 7 měsíci

    Schumann is SO BORING!

  • @opussy
    @opussy Před 6 měsíci +2

    Hard to believe perhaps but nevertheless true; I first studied Schumann under a pupil of a pupil of Clara Schumann.

    • @user-hu3iy9gz5j
      @user-hu3iy9gz5j Před 6 měsíci

      So she's technically your grand-grand-teacher. We're all related etc.. etc..