Classic FM Made A Stupid List - Reaction

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  • čas přidán 5. 04. 2024
  • This video is a purely reactive one. Matthew King, without any prior knowledge, checks over the top 50 items (this is part 1) in the Classic FM 'Hall of Fame’ and reacts spontaneously to them. The reaction includes various attempts to play and ‘sing’ extracts from some of them on the spur of the moment (and inevitably there are quite a few lapses of memory and inaccuracies!)
    This is really an exercise in instantaneous reaction. Feel free to react spontaneously (if politely!) in the comments below.
    Thank you for watching.
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Komentáře • 172

  • @SRPM-yk9xw
    @SRPM-yk9xw Před 3 měsíci +82

    Rumour has it Classic FM might buy another CD later this year.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk Před 3 měsíci +9

      ... and I bet it'll be called "Adagio II"

    • @nickray4529
      @nickray4529 Před 3 měsíci +2

      😂

    • @HarryS77
      @HarryS77 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Is Classic FM run by the same guy who does userbenchmark?

    • @lewisedmundscomposer
      @lewisedmundscomposer Před 3 měsíci +1

      ☠️☠️☠️☠️ excellent comment

    • @alexeykkk9557
      @alexeykkk9557 Před 3 měsíci +1

      But that’s not for certain

  • @failsafe6596
    @failsafe6596 Před 3 měsíci +76

    The fact that none of the Chopin ballades or the Liszt Sonata in b minor is in this list, but a bunch of film score is straight up baffling

    • @notsorandom889
      @notsorandom889 Před 3 měsíci +9

      The term “Classical Music” is quite ambiguous and people might consider those orchestral film music to be in classical style just because it is using an orchestra.

    • @bobmeyers186
      @bobmeyers186 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Funny you mention. I just learned the Scherzo 1 and part of the liszt sonata lol

    • @tt-ew7rx
      @tt-ew7rx Před 3 měsíci +1

      "Liszt is trash" - Dave Hurwitz.

    • @deividfost
      @deividfost Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@tt-ew7rx It seems like context is meaningless this day and age, sadly

    • @tt-ew7rx
      @tt-ew7rx Před 3 měsíci

      @@deividfost That seemed to be a non-context remark meant as a global view by the speaker of that sentence - my understanding. I watched the whole video where that remark was made and there were no ifs or buts.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 Před 3 měsíci +23

    I do insist on a part 2! Also, I agree with your hot takes: Rach 2 is absolutely genius (especially the counterpoint in that 3rd movement), and The Phantom Menace is epic and unfairly gets a lot of hate.

  • @thomasramsay8212
    @thomasramsay8212 Před 3 měsíci +27

    I believe the Shostakovich Jazz Suites were called that because they were written for a jazz orchestra (in the soviet sense).
    I’ve seen them billed as “Variety Suites for Jazz Orchestra” before and I think it’s a much better term!
    Unfortunately, Shostakovich wasn’t terribly jazzy. His writing for piano (for example the cadenza of his 1st piano concerto) seems to show the influence of ragtime & stride, but I’m not terribly sure, I’ll be honest.

    • @jacobbass6437
      @jacobbass6437 Před 3 měsíci +7

      It’s actually just a complete mistitle all together. A publisher incorrectly titled the work “Suite for jazz orchestra no. 2” when the actual name is “suite for variety orchestra no. 1”.

    • @thomasramsay8212
      @thomasramsay8212 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@jacobbass6437 Ah, got it. Thank you for clarifying!

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +5

      Thank you for pointing this out. Apparently its correct title is 'Suite no. 1 for Variety Orchestra'. There was an editorial error in the tenth volume of the Shostakovich collected works edition published in 1984 which resulted in the Suite for Variety Orchestra No. 1 being misidentified as the "Suite for Jazz Orchestra No. 2" or "Jazz Suite No. 2". The score was first published with the correct name in 2001.

    • @frankwales
      @frankwales Před 15 dny

      @@themusicprofessor It's mildly irksome to me that Classic FM persist in using the wrong title for this, given how long the correct one has been known.

    • @jamesoliver6625
      @jamesoliver6625 Před 4 dny

      With DS, the first criterion for evaluation is what was the personal psychological political climate under which the piece was written and has his penchant for sarcasm manifest.

  • @SimonFrankau
    @SimonFrankau Před 3 měsíci +7

    I'm loving the thoughtful but endlessly polite critique of this list, and want more!

  • @PiersHudsonComposer
    @PiersHudsonComposer Před 3 měsíci +11

    "I love democracy" - Palpatine

  • @carbonmonoxide5052
    @carbonmonoxide5052 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Ashokan Farewell is a fiddle tune written for a documentary. Not classical music. It’s very popular for fiddle players.

    • @gingercat6128
      @gingercat6128 Před 3 měsíci

      The version Classic FM plays is too sanitised, too "tamed". Listen to the original played by Jay Ungar to hear what it should sound like.

    • @carbonmonoxide5052
      @carbonmonoxide5052 Před 3 měsíci

      @@gingercat6128 it’s in the folk tradition now, everyone (myself included) plays it a little differently.

  • @Arnoldiepin
    @Arnoldiepin Před 3 měsíci +17

    imagine if the voters of this list were given the opportunity to engage with 'classical music' on a level beyond the most superficial possible?

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      What does exactly demonstrate that the voters were superficial? Actually, it looks like a quite good list to my eyes.

  • @chrisperyagh
    @chrisperyagh Před 3 měsíci +6

    Einaudi is 'Classical' music for people who don't like Classical music.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yes, I think that's probably a fair assessment (with all due respect to Einaudi lovers!)

  • @Moelocomoe
    @Moelocomoe Před 3 měsíci +6

    Ashokan Farewell according to Wikipedia “The piece is a waltz in D major, composed in the style of a Scottish lament (e.g., Niel Gow's "Lament for His Second Wife").[3] Jay Ungar describes the song as coming out of "a sense of loss and longing" after the annual Ashokan Music & Dance Camps ended.[3] The most famous arrangement of the piece begins with a solo violin, later accompanied by guitar and upright bass. Another arrangement, featuring Ungar, Mason, and their family band, is performed with two violins, an acoustic guitar, and a banjo, with the piece beginning with a solo violin.” It was used in the Ken Burns Civil War Documentary.

    • @isaacbeen2087
      @isaacbeen2087 Před 3 měsíci

      his recordings with his wife are wonderful…fab fiddler

  • @vincentfernandes8384
    @vincentfernandes8384 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I stopped caring when I realised the Bach Brandenburg concertos is one entry, Beethoven's nine symphonies get nine entries and that stupid Karl Jenkins crap thing got too high.

  • @BlossomedJewelsOfficial
    @BlossomedJewelsOfficial Před 3 měsíci +7

    I TOTALLY AGREE!! Bach should’ve been in top 3

  • @chrisperyagh
    @chrisperyagh Před 3 měsíci +7

    Beethoven's 'Moonlight' sonata only voted in because every ClassicFM listener knows the 1st movement, a few know the last movement and hardly any of them know the 2nd movement.

    • @karenbryan132
      @karenbryan132 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Except those of us who have played it. Yes, you are right!

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      Can you demonstrate that they don't know the entire sonata?

    • @chrisperyagh
      @chrisperyagh Před 2 měsíci

      @@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Chances are they don't know what sonata form is. I bet you a fiver if you play the 2nd movement to them in isolation and ask them what piece (or 'song' as they probably call it) is, they won't have a clue.

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      @@chrisperyagh I don't see why shouldn't they know the sonata form, considering that they are fans of classical music. You treat them as if they were idiots... and why? Perhaps only because they create lists that you don't like.
      For me, the list I see in this video is good, and I ensure you that I'm perfectly aware of the structure of classical music.

    • @chrisperyagh
      @chrisperyagh Před 2 měsíci

      @@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks You really are taking this far too seriously for your own good. You do realise Classic FM is a commercial radio station and rarely ever plays entire works in full, unless they're really short like the Baroque era symphonies by Boyce which are shorter than a Romantic era scherzo movement. Have you even heard of Classic FM?

  • @susanfleming3128
    @susanfleming3128 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Looking forward to part 2!

  • @Warfire30
    @Warfire30 Před 3 měsíci +2

    yes please release the 2nd half. I really enjoyed this reaction.

  • @jamesupton4996
    @jamesupton4996 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Go for it. I'm Radio 3 more then Classic FM, but more than both my own ability to explore via CZcams. No - I won't pay for a subscription service, and have collected CDs, and will continue to do so, since these days, in charity shops you can get them for 50 pence, and even complete opera sets for 2£.
    Classic FM are on to something though.
    Just one observation from me: Saint Saens Organ Symphony 1980s - RFH - tremendous. One of those pieces you have to be there for. All music is like that, but I wonder how many of the voting audience of Classic FM had actually heard it, in its concert -hall - encompassing reality. I think Radio 3 still points the listener to performances. Classic FM commodifies the marketable, the already recorded.

  • @ant7936
    @ant7936 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Even for most of the classical music on this list, I could name a film for you.

  • @grahamfisher307
    @grahamfisher307 Před 2 dny +1

    Their list only says what is most popular not necessarily what is best. It happens every year in the run up to Easter, and listeners are invited to submit their 3 favourite pieces of classical music, and they include film scores. I cannot narrow done a selection of only for my choices, so never take part.

  • @ykaylow1803
    @ykaylow1803 Před 3 měsíci +1

    looking forward to part 2 of your responses to this list

  • @davidgardiner6123
    @davidgardiner6123 Před 14 dny +1

    Why don't they have a separate 'chart' for film music? It wouldn't be so bad if they showed that they KNOW more than the same pieces that crop up every year. For an outlet called Classic FM they do seem to dilute the 'Classic' part more each year.

  • @dzinypinydoroviny
    @dzinypinydoroviny Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'm not against including film scores but Hans Zimmer making it into the list kind of devalues it.

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      Absolutely not. The score of Gladiator is one of the best things ever written for a film. Its place in the TOP50 is really deserved.

  • @jeremyjeffes8603
    @jeremyjeffes8603 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Please I beg of you good sir, I do insist that you release the second part immediately! Having been shocked myself I am dying to see your reaction.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for your encouragement. We are planning on releasing it after all of the insistent comments though it will have to be edited first so cannot be released immediately!

  • @libertytree3209
    @libertytree3209 Před měsícem

    Ashoken Farewell is a wonderful Americana piece played in the series The Civil War. They read the death letter of Sullivan Ballou through it and it is touching, ethereal. Guitar, violin, bass. It's good to see a traditional American folk piece of beauty represent here.

  • @karenbryan132
    @karenbryan132 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Does anyone else hear "Stormy Weather" every time they play that Khachaturian "Spartacus" bit? (It was used to fine effect in a Coen Brothers movie I liked though nobody else did: "The Hudsucker Proxy"). And that Pachelbel Canon got popular when a fellow named Remo Giazzoto did his version back in the '60s. Nobody would have picked up on it otherwise. (I'm old--that's why I remember this.)

  • @worldmusictheory
    @worldmusictheory Před 3 měsíci +2

    it was refreshing to hear a musical academic not just, as you put it, denegrate rachmaninoff. its only now that those in academia are starting to appreciate rachmaninoff’s genius. his harmony is a personal influence on my own compositions.

  • @yondertz
    @yondertz Před 3 měsíci

    thanks for this, sir! more!!

  • @mrssonging
    @mrssonging Před 3 měsíci +4

    Please release the next lot. I listened to the top 50...spent a good while in despair...

  • @cquelhas
    @cquelhas Před 3 měsíci +3

    Part 2! Part 2! Part 2! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @MrBulky992
    @MrBulky992 Před 3 měsíci

    So nice to hear you pronounce "Dives and Lazarus" correctly, something you will never hear on Classic FM, even though listeners such as myself have pointed it out to them.
    I was a talk given by the Vaughan Williams Society a few years ago when this point was mentioned!

  • @martineyles
    @martineyles Před 3 měsíci +1

    The prelude from Suite Bergamasque is excellent. Love it from the first bar, the grand opening Gm/F disolving into a delecate run of semiquavers. Lovely harmony. Easy enough to play the opening, though my rendition falls into shreads when you have the demi-semiquavers and the fast hand postion change - I failed my Grade 5 piano, and I have a feeling this is harder than grade 5.

  • @BennoWitter
    @BennoWitter Před 3 měsíci +8

    It seems that there are only two types of classical music listeners left. The ones that listen to this station and think movie scores are classical music and the ones that only listen to stuff that is at least as weird as Stravinsky. If it doesn't make your ears bleed, they don't like it.
    I wouldn't listen to Classic FM anyway. Radio Swiss Classic is my online radio station of choice, when it comes to classical music.

    • @Ploist
      @Ploist Před 3 měsíci +2

      I wouldn’t take this list to generalize all classical listeners. Boulez and penderecki pieces have 100,000+ views here on CZcams.

    • @isaacbeen2087
      @isaacbeen2087 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Ploist lol I think ur proving his point

    • @ajames283
      @ajames283 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Seems like most "Classical" music listeners
      Only likes film scores, new age, and "Classical crossover"
      Only likes Romantic era, and maybe also Bach or Mozart.

    • @amarug
      @amarug Před 3 měsíci +4

      i like it all, from beethoven to phantom menace to rach and shostakovich. i don't give a flying flip what you call it, classic, romantic, baroque, film score. most of it just sounds beautiful in different and interesting ways, made by extremely gifted and hard working people. can't stand all the snobs who first categorize everything and then look down on people who have certain "deemed inferior"- preferences among these made up categories. silly humans...

    • @RuthvenMurgatroyd
      @RuthvenMurgatroyd Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Ploist That's the exact sort of drivel he was talking about with the Stravinsky bit 😂

  • @texanfrog1750
    @texanfrog1750 Před 3 měsíci +4

    keep it up!

  • @MusicalScreaming
    @MusicalScreaming Před 3 měsíci +2

    considering its fame (but not to the point where it's overplayed) I was actually suprised that Handel's Messiah didn't place higher

  • @TheGoosington
    @TheGoosington Před 3 měsíci +4

    Part 2 please!

  • @jamesboswell9324
    @jamesboswell9324 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Basically if it's been used in a modern film then it makes the list.

  • @MrCinemuso
    @MrCinemuso Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thamks for this list! I just watched Gladiator a couple of days ago. Zimmer echos a bit of Don Giovani in it, which works realy well with the revenge themes

  • @myouatt5987
    @myouatt5987 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Part 2 please - and with the same humour (see last sentence)!😀
    I generally find these lists interesting but fundamentally depressing as they don't push the boundaries but tend to exist in their own cocoons - being harsh, the music largely described in Part 1 could be seen as 'easy listening' or 'muzak' (... or 'furniture music'??!!)
    That said, a genuine 'hats off' to your instantaneous improvisation ... I loved the Eric Carmen impression on the second Rach 2 ... and did you really mean to say 'Onegin' for 'Onedin' at ~2:33-2:37?! (or that's what it sounded like on this computer!) 😉 Cheers - thanks as ever!

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      Which pieces are muzak?

    • @myouatt5987
      @myouatt5987 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Thanks - any of the pieces which could be played in the background whilst you're going round a store or supermarket or lift or while hanging on the end of a phone - they may be (very) pleasant but not challenging - as I said, they don't push the boundaries, they exist ... the 'furniture music' is a reference to a previous video (see Erik Satie on this channel). Hope this helps. 😀

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      @@myouatt5987 I know what is muzak. I was asking which are the pieces of the list that you see as muzak.

  • @Blimey2342
    @Blimey2342 Před 3 měsíci

    I insist vehemently for a part 2!

  • @Chrisranthony
    @Chrisranthony Před 3 měsíci +1

    Pachelbel Canon is probably in the list as it is often played at weddings. Over the last two years, I have heard it played on the organ, played by a small quartet and even streamed from the internet and played using the church sound system.

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      Or maybe because it's a beautiful piece, and I'm speaking about the modern version released in the 20th century (the original version is not so great).

  • @daymoonfarm2903
    @daymoonfarm2903 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I insist on a part 2! I want to see if the list continues to be as ridiculous as the list in part 1.

  • @VRnamek
    @VRnamek Před 3 měsíci +5

    Ah, the great Hollywood pastiche top 50...

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      Pastiche of what? If the Lord of the Rings and Gladiator were ispired to already existing classical pieces, I want to know their titles!

  • @FilipusWisnumurti
    @FilipusWisnumurti Před 3 měsíci +1

    Shostakovich's jazz suite no 2 was actually originally titled Suite for Variety Orchestra! I don't know who gives it 'jazz suite' as the title, but that explains why it doesn't sound jazz at all

  • @Lindelwirt
    @Lindelwirt Před 3 měsíci +2

    Please continue.

  • @straiwilam7420
    @straiwilam7420 Před dnem

    Didn't notice the Schopenhauer on the piano

  • @tarasubramaniam6191
    @tarasubramaniam6191 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Why no Women composers?
    Prokovieff influenced John Willuams "Star lWsrs" that has matchbox enlarged Space ships crashing into each other
    Shoshtakovich era had "purges"
    Soviet styles: of social.. in Music
    Jamming of Capitalist western music on Radio
    Morricone.. Rota should be on the list!

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +1

      The absence of some amazing women composers (and also quite a few amazing male composers) is bizarre.

    • @karenbryan132
      @karenbryan132 Před 3 měsíci +1

      EVERYBODY has influenced John Williams! Holst, especially. And it's great. If you. can, find Dmitri Tiomkin's Oscar speech, wherein he thanks all the classical composers he gleefully stole from.

  • @OctopusContrapunctus
    @OctopusContrapunctus Před 3 měsíci +2

    Some piece I expected some not, like I expected Mozart, And Vivaldi but not Vaugh Williams

  • @xavierignatiuscordeiro8336

    Regarding the similarity between POTC and Gladiator, I do have some information as to why it’s similar, as well as my own personal theory.
    So, what happened when they were making POTC is that they wanted Alan Silvestri to score it, but it wasn’t working out, so they asked Zimmer. However, Zimmer had other projects, and couldn’t commit, so apparently he wrote that main theme, and entrusted the rest of the film, plus orchestration to one of his protégés, Klaus Badelt. Badelt also worked on Gladiator, along with Lorne Balfe.
    And this is where my theory comes in (Don’t take it too seriously at all, as it is purely conjecture)
    Zimmer does seem to delegate work quite often, and I’m pretty sure he’s credited for films which he wrote little or even nothing of. I can’t say this for certain, but listening to them, it doesn’t sound like his style. I think what happens is that he maybe offers some advice on the music, and helps lesser known composers get opportunities through his production company Remote Control productions. So the composers may not get full credit, but they get the opportunity.
    Anyway, my belief, after watching a few of these films he’s scored is that Badelt wrote both of those scenes, and that’s why they’re similar.
    By the way, love the channel. Just discovered it recently, and am enjoying it so far!!

  • @peterwimmer1259
    @peterwimmer1259 Před 9 hodinami

    You should do a video talking about the difference between classical music and film music. Film music has its great moments, but the quality is below classical music due to its structure and purposes. Like all great art, classical music wants to be appreciated in its development, structure and details, not just for the smoothness of a melody you can whistle and film music is only there for the mood of a film scene. Film music does use classical principles, but "behind", there is much less substance. There is a reason why one cannot put classical music and film music in the same concert (although some might do that).

  • @jamesoliver6625
    @jamesoliver6625 Před 4 dny

    To include film score, with it's ulterior requirements and subservience, indicts the whole list.

  • @ricucci-hillmusic
    @ricucci-hillmusic Před 3 měsíci

    The way I became aquainted with the Adagio from Spartacus was from the movie Caligula… I was in high school and watched it for a theater project (had to do fake movie reviews and perform them like a radio show). Let’s just say my teacher did not do a Google search on that movie before or after I presented on it because I saw things that were probably not advisable for a 16 year old, but hey, exposed me to an amazing piece by Khachaturian.
    Also, I agree about Handel’s works. Solomon is my favorite.

  • @brunoscuiller818
    @brunoscuiller818 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Greetings. I have been watching your videos for a while now. I have learned quite a lot from you now. I have learned quite a lot from this stupid list video. Am I a stupid watcher ?

  • @christender3614
    @christender3614 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like how you still respect film scores and their composers, unlike in some of the comments. Of course one can’t put them on the same level with the all time greats as this list does, but why must people be so spiteful and negative? We definitely need part 2!

    • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
      @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Před 2 měsíci

      I don't agree. Many film scores deserve to be placed in lists of "best music ever composed". I see Gladiator and Lord of the Rings in the list. Two examples of film scores that I consider to be masterpieces like Mozart's pieces.

  • @FirstGentleman1
    @FirstGentleman1 Před měsícem

    Rachmaninoff is insanely loved by people. I constantly hear lovers of classical music or young pianists name him as their favourite composer. James Rhodes even got a tattoo of his name on his arm. I do prefer other great composers but Rachmaninoff is great as well.

  • @sg_dan
    @sg_dan Před 3 měsíci +1

    Marvelous scene in the phantom menace? Really?
    You're not getting any pizza rolls. 😂😂😂

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci

      Actually, that particular scene is rather impressive (although the film in general is a curate's egg).

  • @RhiannonRaven
    @RhiannonRaven Před 3 měsíci +2

    I absolutely insist you release part 2. Now.

  • @Vincent-ig2cb
    @Vincent-ig2cb Před 3 měsíci

    Do come back to Ashakan's Farewell in part 2. I would love to hear your opinion of it. I encountered it from Burn's American Civil War Epic, as has already been pointed out here. I thought it was a traditional melody until I read up on it.

  • @dwdei8815
    @dwdei8815 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Spartacus was used in the Oneidin Line (thanks to which it became one of my earliest true musical loves - along with Tubby the Tuba). This list was clearly compiled to reflect that earlier self.
    Whose fingers russelled the corn? Good question. If there was a scarecrowe in the field, yup, probably not his.
    Strange how many of the top-of-the-list film scores are ones that left zero imprint on my memory. No Morricone?
    From his outstanding symphonies and concertos (and preludes & fugues), the Jazz Suite is one of Shostakovich's feebler offerings. It's disappointingly staid, jazz-less and uninteresting. I would love to have heard him accompanying silent films to really capture his spontaneity, stride technique etc.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci

      Like all Shostakovich, it's got something! The melodies/harmonies are strong and the orchestration gives it a unique quality.

  • @albiepalbie5040
    @albiepalbie5040 Před 3 měsíci

    Hans Zimmer develops the Gladiator score into a more extreme version in the score for Dune - which in context is fantastic

  • @R08Tam
    @R08Tam Před 3 měsíci +1

    Not Russell Crow's fingers but Theresa May's

  • @hertor8803
    @hertor8803 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Consider yourself insisted.

  • @robertmueller2023
    @robertmueller2023 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Museum? I think that was just tongue in cheek mockery. A nuclear lab would be cool though.

  • @nanthilrodriguez
    @nanthilrodriguez Před měsícem

    Canon probably so interesting because of wedding music?

  • @cliffhughes6010
    @cliffhughes6010 Před 3 měsíci +1

    To be fair, Classic FM isn't for people who appreciate good music, but for those who like a cuddle - an undemanding experience of familiar favourites. Radio 3 is there and still pretty good, despite concessions to chatty populism.
    I suppose I'm a bit of a snob, but I can't stand adverts, jingles, phone-ins and inane chatter. And the very idea of a "hall of fame" seems ludicrous.

  • @gamer46653
    @gamer46653 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This list is fucking grim

  • @isaacbeen2087
    @isaacbeen2087 Před 3 měsíci

    I think Einaudi just took some orchestration classes with Berio, but I could be wrong…

  • @Chrisranthony
    @Chrisranthony Před 3 měsíci +1

    You mention Pachelbel Canon during this talk, for a very differnt take on this piece of music take a listen to this version. It's described as Canon in D - Hungarian Dance Style (Pachelbel meets Brahms) czcams.com/video/BFpjbckH-hY/video.html

  • @JeffWardMusic
    @JeffWardMusic Před 3 měsíci

    One cannot help but think that had BBC Radio 3 or Radio France run such a popularity poll, the results might be somewhat different. This is, after all, merely a reflection of the tastes of Classic FM listeners and for whom these pieces resonate well. Anyway, more please. I insist!

  • @ianwebb8760
    @ianwebb8760 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ashoken Farewell was used as the theme for the Ken Burns documentary “The Civil War”. It’s a wonderfully evocative bluegrass tune that sounds like a 100 year old folk song, a bit like Mark Knopfler’s “Local Hero” theme. Not sure why it’s on a “classical” list though.
    Bring on part 2! (And big 👍 for mentioning Berio!)

  • @SandyKay-qr3gk
    @SandyKay-qr3gk Před 3 měsíci

    More!

  • @johnmillholland6550
    @johnmillholland6550 Před 3 měsíci

    I agree that Messiah is a mid tier Handel oratorio. My favorites are Alexander’s Feast, Israel in Egypt and Saul.
    4:29 that is wheat not corn

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes. 'l'Allegro, Il Penseroso e Il Moderato' is one of the best. In the UK “corn” can mean either wheat or all traditional cereal crops (wheat, barley, oats, etc).

    • @johnmillholland6550
      @johnmillholland6550 Před 3 měsíci

      @@themusicprofessor well I’ll be damned, yet another funny difference with British and American English.
      Which oratorios have you seen w the Monteverdi Choir?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +1

      'l'Allegro, Il Penseroso e Il Moderato', 'Israel in Egypt' and 'Semele' (which I should have mentioned above - an amazing piece). I also saw Acis and Galataea with John Butt's ensemble quite recently. All marvellous pieces.

  • @applin121
    @applin121 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rachmaninoff was a genius 👍🏻

  • @N-JKoordt
    @N-JKoordt Před 3 měsíci +1

    Where is the dog? I was expecting to see the dog. I want my money back 😑

  • @Mascas123
    @Mascas123 Před 3 měsíci

    you know, M. Strakosch 'Yankee doodle concert variations' Is really hard on piano, If you play to this piece in 5:12 I mean, It's more harder than la campanella! Sorry Lisit.

  • @timothy4664
    @timothy4664 Před 3 měsíci +2

    You can tell Americans made that list if Ashokan Farewell is even on it, let alone that high.
    Its basically a short instrumental with violin playing the melody from the early 80s. It acheived fame here in the states during the 90s when it was used as the theme for Ken Burns documentary about the American Civil War. The graphic next to the song in the list showed both the Union and Confederate flags.

    • @andresklavierraum
      @andresklavierraum Před 3 měsíci +1

      I think it's actually based on votes from the listeners of classic FM (so UK based)

  • @thienpool
    @thienpool Před 3 měsíci

    Moonlight Sonata only at 44 is pure BS!

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans9426 Před 3 měsíci

    Surely, among many others appearing with wearying frequency in the list, none of John Williams' Ennio Morricone's nor John Barry's film scores can be described as 'classical music' by any stretch? Every time I switch to Classic FM, the theme from 'Dances with Wolves', Gabriel's Oboe, or a piece from the Star Wars series never seem far away (neither do 'Spiegel im Spiegel nor Pachelbel's Canon in D major, btw). For obvious reasons, Classic FM is a no-go area for me every Easter weekend, when the entire 'Hall of Fame' has taken residence for the last 28 years!

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Insofar as pieces like Gabriel's Oboe seem to be high up on a list that excludes Beethoven's Late quartets or Bach's St. Matthew Passion or composers like Bartok altogether, it's certainly weird and mystifying, but I guess all the list demonstrates is that a certain rather odd bunch of pieces are enduringly popular among the demographic who listen to the station. Personally, i take quite a broad view. I remember Ligeti used to say that he wasn't so much interested in genre as in whether the music was good or bad, and I tend to agree. There's plenty to admire in the composers you mention above, even though a list that elevates their music above other more interesting music is a problematic one!

    • @williamevans9426
      @williamevans9426 Před 3 měsíci

      @@themusicprofessor All to their own tastes, I suppose!

    • @davecook8378
      @davecook8378 Před 3 měsíci

      @@themusicprofessor I bet you could sneak in individual movements of the Beethoven quartets or some choruses from the St. Matthew Passion. I gather that this audience likes a good tune and for things to move on after a few minutes.

  • @chrisoconnor9521
    @chrisoconnor9521 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Anyone else think that movie scores and the likes of Einaudi should NOT be included in crap like these lists? Let's be honest - people haven't a clue what's good or not.

    • @Sixsmite
      @Sixsmite Před 3 měsíci

      What is bad on this list?

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 Před 3 měsíci

    Nothing from the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britian?

    • @karenbryan132
      @karenbryan132 Před 3 měsíci

      How about the Osipov Balalaika Orchestra? It was a thing!

  • @witsukyai1685
    @witsukyai1685 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Absolute bullshit from the classicFM. Jurassic park over Rach 3 is just nonsense. Objectively it makes absolute no sense. These deaf people gotta listen to the second movement and the finale of the this concerto, maybe it will enlighten them. Absolute shame

  • @streamoftimesavesnine99
    @streamoftimesavesnine99 Před 2 měsíci

    I despise lists. This is better than that or this is a masterpiece over this. Classic FM is a commercial radio station designed to do what it's mean't to do. Provide music to the masses. All of the film composers pay lip service to the classical composers, and even some of the classical composers pay lip service to other classical composers like Beethoven, Bach and Mozart, Haydn. The real masters were these four composers. Brahms, Schubert, Wagner and even Mahler all took nods from the master Beethoven. The world of music today encompasses newer works that are inspired by past masters. John Williams has Aaron Copland and Holst to thank for Star Wars and Dvorak for Jaws. Seeing that all film composers are trained by people with the knowledge of what the classical masters achived.

  • @haroldsdodge
    @haroldsdodge Před měsícem

    I insist

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před měsícem

      Already done!

    • @haroldsdodge
      @haroldsdodge Před měsícem

      @@themusicprofessor Thanks, yes, I saw Part 2. Like most people on the internet I'm slow on the uptake and need everything spoon-fed to me so I didn't initially realise it was Part 2 because it didn't say "Part 2" and have a little red arrow pointing to it! (I thought it was just about #1 on Classic FM's list) but I got there in the end. PS I'm with you on The Lark Ascending - not necessarily Vaughn Williams' greatest work; my vote would go to the first Norfolk Rhapsody. Not sure why that's not more popular; it's a stunner. It builds to the most wonderful crescendo. But I digress. Keep up the great work!

  • @jonb4020
    @jonb4020 Před 3 měsíci

    Well it is all subjective isn't it? I detest most Debussy! My list would be largely Bach, Mozart and Haydn plus a lot of piano concertos and sacred choral music, with a few other one-offs interspersed. And if someone, let alone a lot of people, likes a work, then the composer has surely won. But I'm afraid you and I fell out the moment you rated Berio above Einaudi, Professor. The grotesque above the lovely, even if somewhat simple at times, can never work. As Mozart said: "Ich möchte alles haben, was gut, ächt und schön ist" - and schön is hardly a word one could use with Berio, in my view! But at least you didn't mention S****hausen...

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Definitions of beauty are notoriously subjective. Even Mozart's music was thought grotesque by some of his contemporaries!

  • @dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984
    @dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Classic FM is a joke. I stopped listening to the commercial station back in the mid 00s. The music selected by listeners is often heard in films, including classical music. The rest of the composition by the composer is best forgotten. It does no service to what classical music is all about. That Jazz Suite by Shostakovich was used in Eyes Wide Shut. It's been in the Hall of Fame for decades since the film was released in 1999, and its inclusion . I rest my case.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +1

      You're preaching to the converted!

    • @dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984
      @dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@themusicprofessor That's good then. The choir must sing louder to evoke change. But do Classic FM REALLY want to change? That is the question.....

  • @anthonymccarthy4164
    @anthonymccarthy4164 Před 2 dny

    What an incredibly vulgar and stupid idea such a list is. It's why I NEVER listen to music on FM radio, anymore. Back in the 1970s and 80s the approximately four different classical music U.S. "public radio" stations I could tune in did some interesting programming, none of them do that anymore due to this kind of thinking. I absolutely hate what has become of most of the "classical music" business.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 2 dny

      I still have a soft spot for BBC Radio 3 although I listen to BBC Radio 4 more often!

  • @GeorgeCarlin88
    @GeorgeCarlin88 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Not a source to be taken seriously. They made a list of gay composers and everyone was gay :D chopin, schubert, handel, lully, corelli...

    • @karenbryan132
      @karenbryan132 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Nonsense, most of it. Tchaikovsky, Barber, Copland--yes, we know for sure. Further back, we don't know, and never will, barring the unearthing of some dusty document nobody's known about before.

  • @bigfan2710
    @bigfan2710 Před 2 měsíci

    I hate these lists, if only becuase they suggest that one piece of music is better than another. Also no top 50 Bach? They are all good in their own way - maybe the Hall of Fame should be refined by referring to what is popular with the audience at any moment in time. Sadly I don't listen to the radio for Classical music anymore - maybe I am a snob but hopefully not closed minded. Am happy to run with the odd surprise that Spotify mght have for me from time to time.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 2 měsíci +1

      BBC Radio 3 can be worth turning on occasionally

    • @bigfan2710
      @bigfan2710 Před 2 měsíci

      @@themusicprofessor I quite like Music Matters 🙂 Seriously, I love this channel. Keep up the great work!

  • @djysmallman2183
    @djysmallman2183 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Classic fm just recycle the same pieces over and over again,! I listen to Scala radio now, as tired of hearing the same ones. How many times must you endure the Ruddy Grieg piano concerto for goodness sake? Play some more different masterpieces out there classic fm!

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  Před 3 měsíci +1

      You're right. I don't listen to the station very often but there there seems a worrying lack of he lack of curiosity, even interest really...in music. At least BBC Radio 3, for all its faults, has always felt like a station that has some interest in the subject!

    • @dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984
      @dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@themusicprofessor The BBC is no different now. Local radio stations play the same pop music over and over again each month. I went to Wiltshire just recently, and the BBC Radio Station played vertually the same pop music as BBC Radio Cornwall. We are regressing backwards with everything these days. Progression is sadly lacking.

  • @djysmallman2183
    @djysmallman2183 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Same old regurgitated pieces every day and night. Shallow and manipulating the listeners with safe bets to bow to the non highbrow classical fans.

  • @kuglepen64
    @kuglepen64 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Film scoring music? Ha ha, ludicrous. GTFO.