Grizzly vs Grizzly - Elka Suspension Test, Drag Race & Trail Ride
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2019
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In this video I'm down at my buddy Evans house, and we wanted to compare the Elka suspension to the stock Yamaha suspension. We also go for a beauty trail ride through his families 200 acre's of land in Hillsborough, NB, and end the day with a good ol' drag race, Grizzly vs Grizzly. I hope you like it !
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I had my Yamaha for 15 years and never had an issue with it. Its a 2004 Grizzly 660, before they came out with fuel injection, power steering and its all stock. I usually work her hard hauling firewood thru the woods, but it gets rode hard and put away wet. Love this quad, hope it lasts another 15.
Hey !! Cant beat Yamaha ! they build a quality bike ! if you do the maintenance she will last ya ! those 660's were a beast !
My first ATV was Yamaha's Grizzly 600!!! Air and Oil cooled, it was the first ''BIG BORE'' ATV on the market. Sold it at 30,000 k's and she ran like a top.
Love this video...like all your videos lol!! That network of trails on yer buddies land is just insane!!! HUGE THUMBS UP!!!
Hey man ! thanks so much ! yes Evan is really lucky to have all that land with those awesome trails. im jealous haha
Awesome video loved it !!! Keep up the good work, never gets old !!!!
thanks my man ! I love getting out riding and making videos, glad you like them !
Great video man! Trails are awesome down there! The river crossings are beautiful, great camping spots!
Hey buddy ! thanks !! and you're right, its a beautiful area ! I talked to Evan and he's cool with me camping there sometime.
Great video Maritimer, I just got a 2020 Grizzly SE XTR and I love it. I know it's not an 850 but it is plenty fast and powerful for me. Best Trail riding , Hunting, Fishing and Exploring ATV out there !
Hey man ! thats awesome ! what is the XTR stand for? they add some more stuff on? and yeah man I really do believe the 700 Grizz is one of the best all around machines out there, not the most powerful or fastest but Pound for Pound it's one of the best ---- THE BEST Belt drive system, not even close. Lots of low end grunt for trail riding. Good ground clearance w/ curved a-arms. A Great 4X4 system with real locking diff (No VISCO Lock or AWD bull Sh*t). thats just to name a few.
Not exactly sure what it stands for, I think it's extreme terrain and then the R . I should have said XT-R . It has a factory installed warn winch, 27" Zilla's , special paint and colour matched wheels. Prewired for a Yamaha gps . And power steering of course. I went the back way to Martin Head today and it works awesome. That's the trail you have the video of with your buddy.
Hey man, yeah thats a great trail back into Martin head (High/Low Tide trails) and I love the power steering, its great ! deffinitly dont NEED it on an ATV but now that I have it... I dont think I can go without lol
What an Awesome playground that was, I love that kinda ridding
Oh yeah, it was the best !! beauty spot !
Definitely see the benefits with the sway bar removal after that water crossing pass by you guys did! nice spot out in that area, another great vid! Take care! :)
Hey man! yeah for sure, I took mine off and I'll never go back !
this is like excatly the type of riding I like, I remember spending sumers in sussex at my grandparents are riding the atv up at the tree lot, they had old equipment and splitters there too we just tore it up all over the place Id rid for hours then hang out at the cabin
Hey man ! this is definitely the best type of riding, the land, woods and rivers there was amazing ! I love Sussex, it's beautiful !!
Great Ride-Along, Buddy ! Yup Just Over the hill from Ing's ! Had Many A Good Time There. I know exactly where Evan's Family's Property is ! Used to pick lots of Fiddle-Heads, When we lived there. Thanks For Sharing. ATB T God Bless
Hey buddy !! Oh right on, its a beauty spot eh? I was really jealous while driving through checking it all out. glad you liked the video !
Another great video and tips 👍🏻
Thanks buddy !
Please do a video of you removing and then testing the sway bar removal, if you decide to that is. Great vid! Keep em coming!!
I will for sure !! I just ordered my EHS Tuner, plan on doing the AIS delete and remove the sway bar. thanks !!
I took the sway bar off of my 660 a couple weeks after I bought it. That was late July 2001. This many years later, its currently hanging on the wall in the garage. The only times I've had it back on in the last 19yrs was if I was riding doubles a lot.
GREAT VID, GREAT TRAILS, MICK FROM UK.
thanks buddy !!!
You'd be better off with the stage 2 elka's. IMO as someone who's raced bikes and obsessed with suspension setup 99% of riders wouldn't benefit from stage 3-5 unless they frequently/constantly ride fast/hard. The resevoir only benefit is high speed scenarios with the additional oil, keeping the oil cool and preventing shock from packing up.
For leisure riding I personally prefer the stage 2 over the 3's since the 3's lack rebound control which is the most important setting on a shock. Honestly, im kind of dumbfounded that Elka chose lowspeed compression over rebound on the 3's lol.
a sweet shock regardless though!
Hey man ! thanks for all that info, not hard to tell you know what youre talkin' about from experience (OR you are totally full of Shit ! hahaha jk)
yeah I agree with ya, stage 2 is probably all you would need for regular trail riding, maybe if you did some super agressive/fast riding with like a Renegade/scrambler type machine or something, then jump up tp stage 3, but stage 2 is probably all most of us would need.
thanks again for the info ! I appreciate it.
That's some nice land to have! A few great little camping spots.
Oh I know eh ! I ned to plan a few camping trips there ! Im sure Wendell will love it !
@@Maritimer you ever watch any of Joe Robinet's bush craft stuff on CZcams?
@@ElevationATV Yeah man for sure ! He's one of my favourites ! I've been Subb'd to him for Years.... he had under 100k subs when I first started watching. He actually Subscribes to my channel, which is awesome ! haha
@@Maritimer nice! I actually just found his videos and have been watching like crazy, really good content and totally up my alley. Thought of you as well, figured you should know about him if you hadn't already.
Nice review video buddy! I put on the Elka stage 3’s really enjoy them once I get the credit card bill paid off.
HAHA Exactly ! they are pricy but man they are nice ! maybe someday..... haha
Great video, one of the better ones to show the benefits of the Ella's. I have been planning on getting stage 3 for my XMR 1000 with a 4" Catvos lift. The air shocks it came with are garbage and I think this video sealed the deal to make the purchase. Thx again
Hey Shane - thanks man, glad you liked it ! I hope you get them and love them ! they are a great pair of shocks ! Also sounds like you have a Bad Ass bike !
@@Maritimer my neighbour mids bikes as a hobby, He builds them up over a few years, sells them and starts again. It's a 2013 XMR 1000 with $15k of upgrades and dynoed at 127 hp. It's a beast and I got it for $12k with 800 km on it. I'm a bigger guy and the air shocks at garbage. I have been wanting Elkas but minimal for got video reviews, your was the best I have seen. I am from Edmonton so do lots of skeg and mud trails locally and go to the mountains a lot and nothing it can't get thru. Keep up the good work.
Ohhhh that's right some of the Can Am models have air suspension... I forgot about that, maybe Elkas will be perfect for ya ! Man your neighbour sounds like a nice guy... buys a $20k bike, puts $15k into it then sells it to yoU ! hahaha Great deal! lol Oh Nice i'm up in Edmunston for work sometimes ! Im actually in Grand Falls/Plaster Rock area this week coming. Beautiful up there! I love it !
Man, what a beautiful piece of land to live and ride on! Really enjoyed following along as you guys rode the trails. I took the rear sway bar off of my Polaris Sportsman and really liked riding it that way. Maybe try that on yours first to see if the difference is noticeable to you before thinking of big bucks for shocks? Save that shock money to use for fuel and you can go a long way on many more trips! Take care, my friend, and enjoy! Pete - KI7LIL
Hey Buddy !! Oh man it's such a beautiful piece of land ! and Evan knows it like the back of his hand haha I actually ended up removing my rear sway bar, I love it ! I don't notice any difference when riding at speed yet, but I love it for my slower trail rides.
What and awesome place to go riding the scenic is beautiful, could you tell the difference in power and performance with EHS tuner and of course Grandpa would have and old Honda ATV somewhere that would last and get around 200 acres.
Hey ! yeah man it is a beauty spot, I was really jealous haha my dream is to own a bunch of land like that. I felt like the EHS tuner gave a little better throttle response and obviously made the motor run cooler. I just ordered my Tuner haha
Great video . I have the XTR .
Hey man ! thanks ! and Lucky you ! those XTR's look great ! love that colour scheme !
Awesome video man, that'd be wicked having your own land to wheel on! Those elka's are some high quality shocks, everything I read on them is nothing but good, I like my fox qs3's on my outlander but I think the elka's are even better. I'd say Evan is the wheelie king by looks of it!
Hey man ! Oh I was SUPER jealous of his land, it was beyond beautiful ! and yeah the Elkas are amazing, I remember Arctic Cat had them stock on their SXS for a while.... your FOX shocks are great too ! but probably not quite as good as the Elkas eh? I know I'd love to have a set of FOX's on my Grizzly.
I thought the Elka would be an upgrade untill I tried them. After several rides, I put the fox shocks back on and the Elkas have been sitting in a cabinet in the garage for the last few years. Elka is definitely over rated. The build quality is good, but they are just off the shelf shocks, and they’re customer service is terrible.
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@@shawnsetlich1169 I agree. I regretted buying them for my kawi. They say they set them up according to your specs, but that's a croc a shit.
One thing I like is I can run a higher tire pressure in my tires, and let the suspension do the work. In big jumps and whoops, the stock shocks would overheat, and lose all their damping.. when that happens omg it is difficult to stay on the trails until the stock shocks cool down. With the Elkas, I can ride hard all day, and not lose compression damping, and have a lot greater control. When you buy the shocks get a matched set. If you run 2's run all 2's or 4's or 5's. The adjustability for high and low speed compression, once you have it, you won't go back. I can take a 5' tabletop jump at 40kmh and not bottom out on landing, and yet the landing is butter smooth. I did get Elka to make me 280 inlbs shocks up front, I found the factory 250 inlbs too soft.
Hey ! thanks for all that info, I will consider it when im looking to buy some Elkas, I dont think I will anytime soon, but I'll remember this comment. thanks !
@@Maritimer If I ever make it out that way, we can go riding! Being in BC though, that would be a heck of a trip!!! Love your vids, much better skillset than I have. Keep up the great work! PS if I had to choose between Elkas and tracks, I would get tracks first. Then the Elkas after :) BTW if you get tracks, Camso/Camoplast T4s all the way
Thanks for the Video, Great job as always! I put a deposit down on 2021 Grizz EPS SE , I know you mention that the new models got better shocks , Wondering if it would be worth it for me to get ELKA's or will the new shocks be enough. Will be riding mostly High desert (3000 to 7000 feet) sandy and Rocky , lots of techincal hill climbing, and some in the forest too ... whats your thoughts on it ? thanks charlie
Hey !!! We'll I have stock suspension and honestly I find it to be good, I never have any issues with it limiting my riding at all. If I were you, I'd rock the stock suspension for a while, see if you like/dont like it, and if you end up not liking it, then maybe upgrade.
New subscriber👍🏻thanks for the videos
Hey Mike ! thanks so much ! I see you've been watching a lot of videos lately, thanks so much !
Beautiful land, would have been an awesome spot to grow up! I have the EHS big 3 set up (Tuner, Air Box and Barkers slip on exhaust) on my 2016 Grizzly and I can tell you it's one of the best investments I made, not for power gains but just to take some of that factory leanness out, helps it run so much cooler and you get some pretty big gains in your throttle response and the airbox that they make is awesome, it's such a tight/positive seal and with the pre-filter you don't see a spec of dust in there which compared to the factory set up is pretty major and the exhaust just opens things up a bit more. Been on the fence about upgrading my shocks but I think it's a pretty good investment especially after watch this video.
Ted Peters spend that old money you have tucked away , can’t spend it all on tattoos lol
@@SCOTIAN_ Need to find a way to afford both, lol.
Ted Peters hahaha this is true
Hey Ted ! I just ordered a EHS tuner ! haha so I'll make a video on installing that, I was looking at the air box things but I might look more online and see if I can improve mine. Saying that, I haven't had any dust in my air box at all... not sure why.
I cant get the exhaust, I really dont like the loud pipes on 4 strokes, now give me a 2 stroke with a pipe sounds Saweeeeeeeet ! haha If you can afford the shocks they are worth it for sure. Also my Sway bar is coming off ASAP.
Maritimer get the pipe it’s probably it that loud, listen to mainville atv kodiak that exhaust ....it’s loud . Your you can’t handle all that power 🤔🤣
nice riding up there!
thanks buddy !
Great video enjoyed waching
Hey Pat ! thanks a lot man !
@@Maritimer you bet bro u ever get a set of elkas
I’m from Ontario and am moving out to nb, and I was trying to see what the trails are like out there and I found your videos, do you have something against Honda’s? I enjoy your videos !!
Hey man ! Where in NB are you moving too? glad you found my videos ! Something against Hondas ?!?!?! haha Hell No ! I love Honda !! I was looking at the 680 Rincon and the 750 King Quad when I was buying a new ATV in 2017. I also own a Honda Africa Twin adventure motorcycle and a Honda Lawn Mower ! hahaha the Rincon is a nice bike but I wanted something with a little more pep in it's step, little more sporty. Honda needs to upgrade that bike big time, if you drive a Rincon then a Grizzly you'll notice a difference. I will say I loved the ride of the Rincon, seemed to be much smoother.
@@Maritimer Why did you choose the Grizz over the King Quad ?
Nice vid! One of my friends has taken the sways bars off his 07 grizz. I'm not brave enough yet to try it lol.
hahaha I ordered my EHS Tuner and my sway bar is coming off for sure ! his bike felt super stable, not tippy at all.
How much did the tuner set you back? Mines a 2019 so back to the Yamaha 686 motor. My friend also put a shim in his clutch which gives him a little more low end hp. I'm hesitant to do too much until my warranty is done lol
The sway bar will greatly effect this comparison alot more than the shock replacement.
I agree with ya, the sway bar removed makes all the difference. You could notice the Elkas on the bigger bumps and stuff though, no bottoming out, good rebound.
Good video. Personally amount $$$ lay out for Grizzly, should come with piggyback adjustable Kayaba shocks. They are on Mx bikes, which sell for less $$. Then you have rebuildable shocks with hs/ls compression, rebound. Good video. Thank You. 🥃🥃🥃
Hey man ! thank's a lot !! and I agree with you, for the price, the Grizzly should come with some more options, the shocks would be nice AND every ATV should come with a winch. thanks again !
Great video! I’m from Parrsboro, Nova Scotia. I’d love to get out biking with you sometime! I have a 2019 Grizz!
Hey buddy ! thanks a lot ! I was chatting with ya in IG. it would be good to get out for a ride.
Great video and review. I had the chance to ride a 2020 Honda Rubicon and a 2020 Suzuki Kingquad today. Apart from power, the biggest difference was the suspension. Incredibly how much that changes the fun you can have. Btw, i found the Honda way better.
Hey man ! We'll you picked twi great bikes and cant go wrong with either one, they both will out live you haha super solid reliable machines. Im guessing the King Quad was more powerful and you said the Honda was smoother? I cant say anything bad about KQ or the Rincon, it's all what you like best. I hope you get one of them and get out on the trails !
Really? I’m surprised the Honda rode softer. I’ve owned one for years and the ride is one of the reasons I bought something else.
@@therider6926 did you have a 2017 or up Rubicon with independent suspension?
I am tempted to take off the sway bar lol but I’m afraid it may just tip over if one of the wheels hits a rock while turning.
Hey buddy ! I Said the same thing until I drove my buddies, and it was still very very stable, I Dont do much logging roads ripping at 100km/hr, Im mostly trail riding and I think i'll be removing my sway bar for sure !
fastest that grizzly has ever gone lol awesome work
hahahaha yeah I dont ride like that too often, especially with Ol' Wendell on board haha But I love to rip up trails like that from time to time.
Great ride and review thanks have a great day.
Thanks man ! glad you liked it !
Slight question do you like your tires? I think that my next tires for my atv
Hey buddy ! I Love my Big Horn 1.0's they are amazing in the trails, rocks, snow, sand, mud, hard pac, I'd say they are the best or one of the best all around tires going. Now there are some that say they aren't the best in Deep Mud.... I dont really go in deep mud so... no bother to me.
if you plan on riding in some deeper mud then maybe the Zillas would be better. They are also good as a trail tire and are better in deeper mud and im told are amazing in the snow. I cant see them being as smooth on the trail as the BH though. Honourable mentions could be the Dirt Commanders, ITP Blackwater Evo's, Kenda Bear claw HTR.
I had Dirt Devil 2's before and I liked those. I also had Swamp Lites and they have the nick name "Plug Lites" for a reason, allthough they were good in snow and soft stuff, they sucked on hard stuff and easily punctured. Id also stay away from the Big Horn 2.0's they are lighter but they dont last as long and aren't as tough of a tire as the original 1.0's. just my opinion.
decent friday night vid
thanks buddy !!
Love my Elka stage 3's on my 2015 Outlander Max. Rarely do I have to stand to absorb a big hit. Enjoy your videos.
Hey !! Oh yea they are beauty shocks ! I wish I could justify spending that kind of cash on them, maybe someday haha
hi, i'm looking to get some shocks, maybe Elka Stage 3 for my Max850. Where do you see biggest improvements over stocks? I do little bit of trails but mostly hunting in rough muddy trails, slow crawling ditches not so much speed. Your opinion..? Trying to justify spending $2000
Nice country hay 👌😎
thanks man !
Welcome to my channel, today we're doing wheelies! LOL
I could definitely see the steepness of that hill around 11:00.
I've been wanting to get a set of Elka's, but for that much money, I'd need to try them first. My fear is spending $2,000 and finding out they're not 2,000 dollars better than my stock ones - LOL
How was the tuner? Did you notice a difference in performance when you were riding it? When you were racing, it looked close. He was carrying less weight on his bike.
Those were some NICE trails! I wanna move to Evan's place please - LOL - 200 acres in the bush full of trails like that would be GREAT!
FUN FACTS: In Saskatchewan 200 acres is just "another acreage" - sigh. My wife's cousin farms approx 30,000 acres in southern Sask. He doesn't own all that land, he leases most of it - the avg grain farm operation is now about 6,500 acres - how insane is that?!!!
Your audio was a lot better than normal. Your voice was crystal clear above the engine noise. Did you add an external mic?
Awesome video bud! Thanx for sharin'!
Hey buddy !!! Few wheelies never hurt anyone haha and yeah Evan climbed a few hills tat day that I chose to avoid haha
I hear ya man, 2k is a lot of money ! I know I won't be getting a pair, I like my stock ride now, I am going to remove the sway bar and I just ordered my EHS tuner. I noticed his bike seemed to have better throttle response, and ran cooler than mine.
YES man I was super jealous that his family owned all that land, I'd never leave if I owned that, it's my goal to own a big chunk of land like that someday.
Man thats WILD, but Sask is WAAAAAAY bigger than NS or NB haha but man it be awesome to have tat much land !
I did add an external mic set up ! I bought a "Purple Panda" set up off of Amazon, came with everything I needed, works great too ! You should check it out, and it's not too expensive. I'll pos the link: www.amazon.ca/Purple-Panda-Microphone-Mount-10771328/dp/B01MSKI46R/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=purple+panda+mic&qid=1571698794&sr=8-2
@@Maritimer
Thanx for the link bud! Which GoPro do you have & did you have to buy a "GoPro mic adapter" as suggested in the Purple Panda description? I've been using an external mic for years, but they wear out, so I'm always looking. Plus, viewers constantly ask me about my set-up, so it's good to have some info for them whenever I can.
The Tuner made that big of a difference eh?
I just have the Hero 3 black edition and yes I bought the gopro mic adaptor, it might even be a gopro knock off one, I cant remember now. Yeah I'm really happy with this Purple Panda set, has everything ya need plus sounds good. I Don't know if it's justme, or maybe it's the cooler weather but I find my Battery wears out faster in my GoPro with my Mic attached... maybe it's just me, I dono.
yeah the tuner is really just to make the bike not run so lean (the 708cc Grizzlies run lean to pass emissions, so they run a bit hot) the tuner just makes the bike run how it should from factory. I'll also do the AIS delete mod (the AIS just pumps air from my air box into the exhaust, it's also for emissions but it also causes a lot of popping or "back firing" on deceleration.
@@Maritimer
My mic doesn't effect the battery life in my GoPro Hero3+.
Not sure if that makes u feel any better or not, but just thought I'd mention it - lol
I was just wondering if he can wheelie with the elka shocks just as easy as the stock shocks? I had a shock blow out on mine. So i need to invest some serious money. So the elka shocks are worth it being that i need to replace them anyways? And can i get the front end up just as easy as the stock shocks? Any help is good help here. Lol. Thanks
Whats the difference between the SE an XT-R besides color and winch?
Hey Ryan, I'm not 100% sure to be honest. but in my optionion with the Grizzly's I dont see why someone would pay the extra for any of those models, almost every Grizzly comes with a winch (Here in Canada) and usually the first thing people change on there ATV is Rims and Tires... so really you're paying for the Graphics/Paint/Colour, and some coloured shock springs on the SE.... in my mind it's not worth the extra $$ unless you Really like/Want the different colors. just my opinion thought, Id price up a regular Grizzly like mine then add rims/tires compared to one of the SE or XTR models....
I'd sooooo be in heaven to just be able to ride on that land ...😳
Hey John ! Yeah man Evan is super lucky to have all that land and with some amazing trails on them.
Hi, I also have a grizzly 2019 and wanted to know where you got your ehs tuner , I want to get one for my bike
Hey ! I got mine direct from EHS, it's the only place to get the EHS tuner I believe. store.ehsracing.com/ehsracing_efi_fuel_controllers.html
I want to get a grizzly and would like to know as well👍🏻
What do you think of KFI winch?
Hey ! I'm not familiar with them, I've only ever had Super Winch and Warn. Sorry.
I’ve been on dirt bikes for years but never a quad. I’m 6’1 210. I definitely want a 4x4 maybe one with a locker. I want it for exploring and camping. The dirt bikes can’t carry much so I’m Loking at a quad. Any suggestions? I have no idea. Do I need something like a 400,500,700? Lol. Definitely a Honda or Yamaha. Thanks guys.
Hey man ! thanks for checking out my video ! We'll you're a bigger guy and you have experience riding off road with dirt bikes so I think if you go under 500cc it might be a bit boring for you, depending on your riding style. I Cant say enough good things about the Grizzly 700, I love it ! The perfect trail machine, lots of power, low end grunt for slow trails, Decent top speed of around 110km or like 65mph. Good ground clearance with curved a-arms stock, smooth ride, best belt drive in the game (no comparison, 10 year belt warranty!) one of the best 4X4 systems too with real locking front differential, plus Yamaha quality and reliability. Although I haven't has an issue with my 708 motor that Yamaha contracted Subaru to build them from years 2016-18 I'd probably try to keep away from them, a lot of people have had an issue with smoking on cold start... Yamaha has a recall on them now (top end rebuild). Yamaha went back to their own 686cc motor that they put in the grizzly from 2008-2015 then from 2019+ it's a tougher motor than the 708 and I dont notice much power difference in the two. so if you can find a used 2015 Grizzly, do that. and if you do get a 708 motor maybe stay away from the 1st year 2016, try to go with 2017-18. they seem to be less problematic.
Now other bikes I'd look at; 1) Honda Rincon 680 will be close in price, very reliable and smooth but hasn't changed much and is not as sporty as the Grizzly. 2)Suzuki King Quad 750 is a great machine too, they haven't changed in a long time but are really reliable and a tough machine for sure ! (this was my 2nd choice next to my Grizz)
If you have a smaller budget, the Yamaha Kodiak 700 is a nice machine, with pretty much all the same options as the Grizzly but a little more oriented towards work over sport. The Honda Rubicon/Forman 500 or the new 520 are really nice and have some great reviews, they won't blow your hair back in the sport department but reliability and quality is very high ! Kawasaki builds pretty reliable and powerful machines and they are usually cheaper than Yamaha and Honda.. so maybe check out the Brute Force 750.
I don't know too much about the smaller Can Am or Polaris machines. Im not a huge Arctic Cat fan.... (just my opinion)
I guess it comes down to Needs vs Wants, Your riding style and your budget...
Maritimer that’s the most legit response ever! Thank you. I can’t wait to get one. I miss riding dirt bikes but it’s time for something new haha. Thanks again. I subscribed yesterday!
thanks buddy. yeah I started riding dirt bikes ! Kawasaki KDX 80. loved that little 2 stroke haha thank you !
Do you think the stage threes would be good enough for doubling or do you think having that stage four on the back is a must?
Hey Alex ! thanks for checking out the video.
Honestly I don't think the stage 4's are a MUST but they would be better than the stage 3's b/c your able to adjust the REBOUND of the shock. Most stock suspension is set up for a 180-200lb rider so if you add an extra 110lb or if you have a heavy girl maybe 160lb then it will affect how the shocks handle bumps and cornering for sure. Or maybe you ride a Polaris which I find their suspension to be very soft, if you add the extra rider your bike squats a lot, and your back end will hit on more stuff your riding over.
My grizzly is stock suspension and I don't have any issues with my girl on back, she's only like 110lb though, I just know not to drive crazy and if there are any steep hills I will get her to get off.... the Grizzly tends to pop the front up easily and very easy with someone on back.
Sorry about the long response haha
Makes sense. Thanks for the reply. I’ve got a grizzly also. I think the stage threes would be a nice upgrade for it
wow i would freak out if this would be my private land!? ;- ()- beautiful!- thinkin bout elkas since 2 years but 2000bucks about is a lot...
Hey buddy ! yeah I wish I owned that land haha its beautiful ! and the Elkas are a bit too rich for my blood, I'l lstick with the stock suspension for now lol
Christmas is coming so tell your wife if she let's Santa bring you set of Elka's then you will not ask for anything for the next three.
Hey Mark ! haha I think that would be my xmas and bday gifts for the rest of my life lol to be honest; the wife and I don't do big Christmas presents, we do maybe a few small gifts and for birthdays we usually just go to dinner, It's such a money grab all of these Holidays, all that matters is Family really. BUT Maybe I'll hint to her that I want some Elkas HAHA
Just for hunting and slow going I probably would not both spending the money. When we ride we can travel 250 kms in a day.
I agree with ya man, I cant see myself getting a pair unless I ran into some extra cash haha but even then... I don't mind the stock ride.
Any particular reason he did stage 3 in front and 4 in the rear?
Hey Tracy ! yes he put the stage 4's on the back b/c they have a rebound adjustment which the stage 3's don't have. rebound is the speed that your shocks go back to normal after being compressed. so you can adjust those for the terrain, style of riding or maybe you have a passenger on back.
Why wouldn't you want the stage 4's f&r then?
@@traceyhewes95 Probably price. But you can get cheaper Elka Legacy Plus shocks that have rebound adjusters, at least for sport quads.
Dang 53mph eh.. my Yamaha kodiak 450 goes 56 mph. I keep telling my buddies that have grizzlys and kodiak 700’s, there’s not that big a difference between 450 and 700 (421, 686, 708 depending yr) .. in the trail nobody goes that fast for hrs so I’m right on the 700’s. I’m lower to the ground, narrower, lighter, and have a tighter turn radius. Same tow rate 1322lbs. I have very similar grunt at the bottom, same transmission ,same warranties, Diff lock, 4 wheel on the fly. Smaller gas tank, burns less gas, similar mileage per tank. I like my 450 because I feel like I’m part of the atv when riding. The 700’s seat differently making me feel like I’m riding on top of the atv , having less control. Just my experience. And this is after 1,000 miles riding kodiak 450, 708 and grizzly 708.
Hey ! Yep those ol 450's are a great machine, super reliable ! they have basically a lot of the same stuff the grizzly has with only 450cc motor, so even less change you will break anything haha
Top speed on the Grizzly on a flat is usually around 110km/hr or like 63mph. I'm glad you like your 450 and hope it lasts forever which is very well could haha but I'd take a Grizzly 700 anyday over a 450 but that's just my opinion, I love the seating, handlebars, and not that I care too much about power but the 700 for sure has more low and end top end. My brother used to have the 400 Kodiak and it was a great machine.
I have Stage 5's on my 2014. Money well spent if you ride hardcore.
Hey ! Yeah they are an awesome shock for sure ! I'd love to get a set someday.
@@Maritimer I can't wait to run them this year with the tracks on!!!
Tracks and Elkas ?!? you're making me jealous ! haha
@@Maritimer Well,you do have the newer machine :) Bought mine new in 2014. Tracks are wonderful, just finished re-bearing them for the 2019 season. Pretty great in the snow and mud, and awesome when plowing. Well worth the $$$ if you don't have or don't need a sled :)
I keep 8psi in my tires I found that the side walls would roll and handles like shit, with a touch more it handles a lot better. I also removed rear sway bar , on mine I could feel a difference at higher speeds just had to re learn the way it felt . Might as well get a tuner on it lol. The poor bike didn’t know why hit it , lol you rode like you stole it haha.
Hey buddy ! We'll you are driving an ATV that weighs as much as a small tank, so you will need a higher PSI to keep them tires from rolling over LOL !!! jk buds, I think I need to remove my sway bar for sure ! I loved how it handled without it. The EHS tuner is really just to make the bike run less lean, in turn making it run cooler, not really for performance. but now I need to get mine faster than Evans haha
Maritimer mine ran hot as well , killed to birds with one stone dyno tune with. Power commander 5 😂. It is a tank but a well oiled machine haha. That rips dirt roads at 105km and rides like sitting on your coach . Ha
That is a lot of money to put into what amounts to a toy! Not sure if I like them or not 😅
I agree with ya buddy, I don't find the stock ride bad on my ATV so I don't bother with the after market shocks.
wow 4-wheelers are so friggen slow.. so glad i got my yz250 lol
LOL You Gotta compare apples to apples man, and your YZ250 is snow compared to my Honda Africa Twin 1000..... ATV is slower for sure ! slower ride but WAY smoother, can carry gear on the racks, 4X4, and your not tired at the end of a day of riding like you would be on a dirt bike.
Would you race a Chev truck vs a Corvette too ?? lol I grew up riding dirt bikes too, KX80 I loved that bike haha
Here you might run into a Jeep coming the wrong way
Hey ! I'd hope there aren't any Jeeps on my buddies land haha
think maby he is a little lighter than you my friend
thats definitely true ! haha that will be my excuse lol