Rudy Gobert on His All-NBA Defensive Philosophies and Wemby's Rookie Season
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- This week we are excited to welcome Minnesota Timberwolves star Rudy Gobert to ‘The Old Man and the Three’! We get into so many different topics with Rudy. JJ and Tommy open the pod by discussing how fantastic this NBA regular season has been and how much they are looking forward to the final weekend this weekend. Then when Rudy joins, he discusses his mentality around blocking dunks and how he leads as the defensive anchor of the Wolves. He also shares his defensive philosophy on the Wolves with having teammates like Karl-Anthony Towns, Jaden McDaniels, Anthony Edwards, and more, and how that compares to the personnel he had with the Utah Jazz. JJ and Rudy also get into detail about how great defense isn’t always the flashiest, why perimeter defenders get more shine than big men, and some of Rudy’s pick-and-roll secrets. Rudy also shares what he’s thought about Victor Wembanyama’s season and what he’s seen in him since meeting him five years ago. Then, they have a draft of ‘French Things.’ It’s a packed episode. Let’s go!
0:00 Intro
4:32 Regular season thoughts
12:17 Rudy Gobert interview
1:10:04 Draft
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Having a player care and have a mindset like him on the defensive end is the difference maker for my wolves
Damn straight! 🐺🔥
Let's go wolves!!!
It genuinely motivates the whole team to do better.
My favorite part about JJ is when he posts "This week...." with an exciting guest and then just drops it that same day cause I know he cant wait just as much as we cant wait.
Stop slobbin on his knob, grow up
RIGHT!
But he would say something like “technically dropping it today is dropping it this week” 😂
Well he said “this week” on Thursday so we should’ve seen this coming
@@versatillion15 He said it at 3am my time (EST) so nah he said it friday and dropped it friday
😂 called him out. But JJ, we want to be clear! No complaints!! 😂 Love it!
Rudy is genuinely a chill dude and great player. Glad you were able to show him so well deserved love on this episode
As a fan of Rudy Gobert this makes me smile.
I think Rudy gets too much hate, maybe bc he’s foreign born. Sure he’s had his immature moments, but glad JJ could help spotlight how much he’s grown.
I didn’t “get” the whole Rudy impact, until he came to the Wolves. Watching his impact and effort he plays with every night. He is amazing.
You don’t know how validating that is to hear as a Utah fan. As soon as the trade happened my first thought was “at least one other fanbase will truly appreciate Gobert now too” with us. Good luck, we’re cheering for the T-wolves here in Utah
@@ChidOki we will take all the support we can! Join the pack for the playoffs!
@@ChidOki i never understood the hate tbh utah had no real perimeter defense and ant just got into the #1 role last year defense takes time to mesh
Wolves fans 🤝 Jazz fans
Gobert is one of the most important players in the league for his team
I’m neither a wolves or jazz fan but agree with the sentiment. Gobert has been one of the most impactful players in the league for several years now and constantly gets overlooked.
@@andrewlynch9586 cause the league is incapable of promoting or even celebrating what not only rudy, but a ton of defensive minded players do for their teams. Rudy definitely gets it the worse but i think Bam and Herb Jones are players that are underrated in terms of impact
@@2phonebabykeem913 true. Defense isn’t appreciated near as much as it should.
@@2phonebabykeem913 watching the wolves for the past 2 decades be horrendous on defense, and then juxtaposed to what rudy has brought along with the growth of some of our young defenders, is literally so nice to see. To see Rudy deter a drive, kick out, and the defensive scramble to actively shut down the outside is honestly one of the highlights of watching a rudy led wolves defense. And im so happy for it. its like discovering a new seasoning for the first time and thinking oh my god this is great.
As a Utah fan I speak for all of us when saying that we love Rudy. He played hard for us and you could tell he he always tried to make the right play
Completely agree.. unless he was catching the ball in the post 🤣
He also seems like a good guy despite how much he gets bullied.
100%
There was times when catches the ball in the post and he tries to do a post move that he can’t do an turns the ball over when he could just do a give n go or sum
Thank you for finally having Rudy on. He's such an intelligent player. Love how he explains & and breaks things down so well; it makes for a great visual. I miss him in Utah, but so happy he's finally being given the right plays/team to shine. I'm a Timberwolves fan now.
Glad to see Gobert finally get his flowers this season.
Bro what? Gobert has been getting his “flowers” for years as a defender and it shows in his bank account. The criticism he faced was warranted but this year he has the best defenders around him he’s ever had and he’s still taken a leap to get out on the perimeter.
The combination of him not playing drop all game as well as having defenders and a coach that don’t rely solely on him as a back line giving up free runs is big for him. It’s too bad that Gobert will probably be on the decline when Ant and Jaden start to reach their prime.
AD should 100% be the defensive player of the year@@jamesonedwardsii4943
@@jamesonedwardsii4943i’d argue he’s the most disrespected hall of fame level player imo
Yall are wild. He is a multiple time dopy and is on a max contract and probably gonna get another max contract lol
Crazy think to say about a 3x DPOY
JJ has become the best NBA reporter ! Thank you JJ for giving high praise to my man Rudy 🤩
BIG Rudy Gobert! My favorite player in the league. Thank you Timberwolves fans for loving him, defending him and taking good care of him. So glad to see a lot of NBA fans finally coming around on Rudy and his peers are giving him his flowers.
Especially seeing that no matter the team, or the makeup, Rudy is a walking top 10 defense regardless of anything. that is the baseline, and its truly nuts watching how much our defense has improved, from watching our very abysmal defense for 2 decades.
I m so glad to see Rudy here, fantastic defensive player and good guy. Sometimes he is hated (because other didn t want to assume their mistake as usual ), now he is loved. I m just happy for him.
One of the underrated players of all time tbh I think people are not gonna appreciate him until he retire
Thanks for having Gobert on, always been a fan.
When you listen to Rudy speak, you can tell he has a really high basketball IQ, that is why he is going to win his 4th DPOY. Go Wolves!
You don’t start for a decade without some kind of talent and iq. People just hate to hate
That's the big thing Gilbert Arenas will never understand with euro guys: in any sports here there's no star system, when you're a kid you start in academies then in pro leagues as a rookie at age 14,15,16 as Wemby or Dominique Malonga (the next Alien girl in WNBA). I've seen this in every sports i'm been doing, be it volley-ball, football (the real one), tennis fencing or table tennis whatever, at an early age I was facing grown up adults, so you have to compensate for the physical aspect with your IQ. So you learn fundamentals, I mean you learn them A LOT, and the first thing is defense in team sports here, that's why the euro guys knows everything about defense before coming in the NBA. I'm french so you know it's not a secret.
Football: 2 times world champion with the best defense in each of both tournaments
Handball: multiple olympics and world champion with the best goalie elected in those tournaments Thierry Omeyer
Volleyball: Olympic Champion with the world's best libero, Jenia Grebennikov
Basketball: Tokyo's Olympics silver medal, best defense of the tournament with Gobert and Batum.
And now with Wembanyama, who was a football goalie first before basket ball, and defends on small guys at work outs !
And the NBA knows it, that's why you've got 3 frenchmen and other euro boys in the next draft, because every GM is now fed up with poor defense taught in the AAU and the NCAA. The last World Cup was a big problem for team USA: they lost because of a poor defense. The GMs are fed up with those 120+ points taken 4 times a week ! so they want defense ready guys.
This defense in the modern era is extremely rare.
Wolves, let’s enjoy this season as much as possible. Regardless of result.
Loved Rudy since his rookie year. His value on my jazz was impeccable
the wemby portion of the episode start at 1:04:50
thank u god
Hero
thanks
The question they should have asked...
"How can you legitimately justify getting DPOY over Wemby, considering he's a much better defender, with much better stats, than you?"
Thank you
All it takes to understand what makes the (soon come) 4 Time DPOY great... is to actually watch him play. Been watching my Wolves since I was a young kid and never have I seen such an impact on any team in Minnesota like the Timberwolves got with Rudy Gobert, Anthony Edwards is working great with him, and who knows, maybe with Ant, Rudy will soon become a more comfortable bucket getter 🤷♂️ Regardless Gobert is so dominate in the paint defensively, and it's helped lead to my favorite sports season of all time which I feel will soon get even better! Shoutout to Rudy, its been such a great ride, Lets Go Timberwolves 🙌 🐺 🏀
I assume you started watching after kg left
@@tannercasterton10 then it makes perfect sense
If Rudy works on his midrange & FT’s this offseason he’ll move into the next tier. Such a fun year to watch!
We gonna win a ring in at least 3 years wat u think?
@@tcukeem why not this year 🙏🔥
Rudy one of my favorite guys in the league.
It’s crazy how all the blame went to Rudy when Utah’s defense fell off. They had bad defenders everywhere and Donovan doesn’t defend, so they just made Rudy’s job harder come playoff time. Just funneling guys to Rudy all series is eventually gonna wear him down and also teams will gameplan for defense that just funnel and don’t rotate. Lazy defensive plan tbh
Facts
That's the biggest difference between the Wolves and those Utah teams. If Rudy gets switched out onto the perimeter, there will always be another big (KAT, Naz, Kyle) who can rotate over and provide rim protection. It also allows Rudy to be more aggressive when he has to defend in space. He had a great block against the Wizards where he initially got beat on the perimeter, but very fluidly flipped his hips and used his length to stay attached and eventually get the block.
@@Blorbifinkthe other difference is no one on team feels above playing defense or that saving their energy for offense is the right thing to do
Not sure how Mitchell played D in Utah but he is a solid defender in Cleveland
@@davidlee9411 he basically was a traffic cone in the playoffs for Utah at times 😂
jamal murray interview would be sick
Jamel should have his own podcast I think. JJ and Murray can a great combination too but I want two podcasts 😮
European players are so refreshing attitudinal wise.
Humble.
Not just European, almost every non-US player 😊
@@ebok33643 been a nba fan for 50 years. Not ALL American players today lack humility and common social etiquette……
@@pichart Correct. Most unfortunately do.
I'm so glad Rudy is on the Wolves, he's bringing that winning culture with him
i think that obviously the casual NBA fan will never understand how insanely impressive long stretches of shut down team defense is, simply because its much easier to put a block or a steal in a short social media video that reaches millions then multiple consecutive defensive possessions. but fans who actually watch the games, and love the game of basketball, understand how beautiful a defensive possession like JJ described is, and get just as pumped for stretches of defensive dominance as they do for any highlight dunk, block or ankle-breaker
rudy has completely changed our team defensively, i feel like his impact just makes everyone want to play defence. There’s a reason he’s been part of top 5 defences in almost every season of his career
Defenses aren't made of wood.
Great interview! Thank you for sharing Rudy voice with us!
Loved how they talked about the Rudy&Joe combo. It was so good and alot of ppl underrated it.
Rudy le sang, les vrais savent
On le sastre tonton, Rudy le monde
Thanks jj we don't really get why people wants to hate on gobert... cuz he's playin good this year and defensively he is awesome
Speaking from a UT native, he has always got the unwarranted hate. Sure he is a bit slow and not the most graceful at times, but his opposing presence on defense and his lock down ability along with 16+ rebounds a game, throw in a few lobs and an overall likeable/good person and you can’t not like the guy. We miss him here and I now follow the Wolves because of him (& Conley) but Rudy is special. We watched him grow up in UT where he really improved every year. Now we out of playoffs he is the one I’m rooting for
Rudy is goated
For my money, i would say, Rudy is the best drop coverage big man all time. Like, the dude changes the entire game when he is in drop
4 x DPOY explaining why he impacts the game more than stat sheets show, what a podcast episode 🔥
It's cool hearing Gobert talk about his main competition for DPOY. He's such a chill dude and seems separated from the hype. He's got nothing but love for the guy.
He’s been his mentor for years bro it’s defo all love for vic
I mean it helps that the competition is a guy he consider as a little brother 😂
I think rudy wants wemby to be the best in the league because of how gobert has been disrespected by his peers. It'll kind be like a "yea yall ain't messing with little bro, wassup now?" kind of thing, he'll love to see wemby dominate more than anyone.
@@dasupremegentlelad4321 Yea man... I loved the part where he said "I mean I've known him since he was 14. It wasn't a surprise to me"
Great interview 💯 Much needed for Rudy. His defensive IQ is just as good as a Draymond Green, he’s just been high-jacked by half-baked social media narratives from casuals and trash talking from his peers (just Draymond really). He’s going down as an all-time great defensive player, much like Dwight Howard, love it or hate it. These are facts.
The Draymond part is more of a hit than a compliment lol, bro is almost 4x DPOY without kicking anybody in the nuts lol. He has better def IQ than that
Rudy c'est le meilleur dans l'intimidation, 1 contre 1 et pour son équipe. Really good player.
Congrats Rudy from Le Maine et Loire !😉
Thank you JJ. I appreciate this
JJ is so smart!! Literally just dropped the pow with lbj taking about rudy.. and then drops a pod with him
No doubt JJ is hella organized
Which vid do they talk about Rudy?
@@aden7535the latest episode of lebron and jj podcast
Finally some respect on Rudy. Thank you JJ.
European guests are my favorite. If you guys ever get Joker on the show it'd be a dream come true !
JJ already staded that he asked Joker to be on the podcast and said that Joker will never do it. He did MPJ's pocast tho.
Just love that guy, hasn't always been perfect but put some respect on his damn name
Dpoy Rudy been fun to watch this year !!
gotta respect rudy for sure
Wolves defense always looks like clockwork to me - a finely tuned clock - all the different pieces moving exactly how they have to in perfect sync. Beautiful to watch.
JJ gets it. Defence isn’t always sexy but watching the wolves this year - you could have made a lot of money taking the other teams under on points. Rudy is the main driver of this
Rudy Gobert, the greatest defender of all time! Thanks JJ!
Favorite episode
Victor and Rudy in the French paint this summer for the OG! 🇫🇷🇫🇷
2023-2024 NBA season has been one of the greatest seasons in recent memory. Dont recall the last time the west and east have been all so close in standings. Going to be a crazy last 2 games for everyone. Also all the players this season have been balling out. great time to be a fan!
Seeing the battle for the one seed on top of the west and then the level of players that are going to be in the play in spots (Lebron, AD, Steph, Embid and Buttler) makes this season so exciting!!! I’m really looking forward to the Clips vs Mavs series that will be a hell of a battle
It's crazy that the two best defending big men BY FAR are French. If they have any offense, under FIBA rules, good luck scoring against them.
Love the Joe Ingles appreciation!
My favourite part of every JJ episode is when he pretends to ask a question but only as a vehicle to talk about himself, can set your watch to it
By the way, Rudy will be soon father for the first Time (Don't know if it was mentioned during the interview). Congratulations Rudy! 🎉😁
Great video, particularly liked the part about Wemby
lifelong Jazz fan here saying thank you Rudy and hope you find your way back to us lol but if not, best of luck
gobert is a defensive mind who understands how a defense should work and can work
Wolves and Rudy gonna silence the haters ..
My man jj gettin that bag. Props to him
The GOAT rim protector
🤦♂️
That would be Hakeem. And Vic will be it soon.
That was so cool
Damn Rudy is a TALKER
Defense as a big is very different. Defending your guy but then being the rim protector for all the players. So much to keep an eye on. Lot's of quick decisions.
Rudy is a good player and simply a good man
Great defense isn’t boring at all in my opinion…. I know people like to think that offense is a thinking man’s game and defense you just stand there and guard…
But even the way jj and Rudy broke down defense in this interview,make you realize defense takes as much of mental fortitude as offense to be great…
I think the game of basketball about to go to even a higher level…. Because the intelligence on defense going to be out of this world…
So true, i thought Ron Artest was one of the most spectacular player for example, it seems crazy to others, and some team defense where everyone gives 100%, like in the Playoffs, it is beautiful.
My favorite part was when JJ told Rudy “it’s Redicking time”
Slightly amusing that Rudy would agree to appear on JJ Redick's podcast when it's sponsored by Draftkings
As this pod grows and grows I wish more and more you guys could of interviewed Kobe 😢
So happy the drafts are back, and the bickering between jj and tommy about each others drafts 😂
You gotta have your 'Old Man & a Three' or two ... perhaps four ... 😁
ok, I'm listening now ... This should be good. He's a really great player and totally filled the spot Mini needed ... Just right fit.
Ok, I'm listening ......................
Coool ... is that Minnesota in the Background? nice ... just finishing off winter I see ...
Rudy can score too, certainly dunk pretty well ... and offensive boards are not uncommon for him ...
for me, a GREAT perimeter defender still needed a good interior defense, and a GREAT interior defender still needed a good perimeter defense to really be effective. Mj, Pip, Rodman, Timmy, Kawhi, Tony Allen, Marc Gasol, etc. Even Hakeem and Dwight have scrappy team mates to funnel penetrating players into them.
Defenders like Marion & Kirilenko were under appreciated and underrated because they were in a team that are between bad-good in defense.
Rudy Boy... la légende française.
Go Rudy!!! Next 4 times DPOY, NBA Champion and Olympic Games Gold medalist. 😁
He’s gonna get his US citizenship?
@@imccormick0311 He is not Embiid. 🇨🇵😁
don't jinx France for this summer.
Wemby and Rudy are gonna go crazy at the olympics
Big Ru Go Brrr
People need to put respect on his name bro, he’s fcking great men
He is motivating why he should win...
The cool hat dudes
Rudy is like "I don't remember, I have scuffles with everybody".
gobert has been the 3rd best center in the league for a while now
Love Rudy but he's not better than Bam imo
no lol, Bam/AD are better than him. On top of Jokic and Embiid. Hes probably up there with Lopez or Nurk. Offensively Rudy has issues. Also guys like Sengun, Sabonis i would say are also better. Its not so cut and dry
@@dorian6452 wrong
@jj you should bring JJ Barea to podcast.
His English has gotten a lot better. Good for him.
I wish you guys would've pushed Gobert on his response when he mentioned rule changes making defense hard
IMO it’s the unwritten rules that are making defense harder. I also think individual efforts are only as good as a team focused effort allows. One excellent defensive player cannot carry the team and variable refereeing has everyone off balance.
Which unwritten rules?@@catherinelynnfraser2001
I think JJ disagrees with that, it's just that are so many talented offensive players.
So many huge pauses while talking for Rudy, I thought it was lagging 😂😭
People that fight the idea of Rudy winning DPOY have probably watched two Wolves games all year. Ask any fan in MN and they will say he’s the MVP of the team this season. This defense isn’t half as good without him covering the paint and communicating where to be with all of his teammates.
One could make a similar argument for Wemby, tho. If you fight the idea of Wemby being DPOY then you probably aren’t scrutinizing his individual contributions, writing him off based upon team record.
With Wemby on the floor, Spurs have a top 5 defense. Without him they are dead last in NBA. Gobert is the best defender out of all the BEST teams in the league. True. Wemby is the best defender in the NBA, period.
How many games of the other contenders did you watch?
Nah I’m a spurs fan and rudys always been the best big man defender in the league. Now he’s got the defensive talent around him he’s shining even more, hope they win a chip this year!
Obv I’d love Victor to win it cos he equally deserves it imo but the media won’t vote because of the teams win/loss
@@jublacabra Spurs have won 20 games. Get out of here with that nonsense. Would you consider someone on a trash team for MVP?
@@skoolynugenator1802 Wemby is averaging more blocks as a rookie, than Rudy his whole carrer. Wemby had Joker bring his A game playing one of the worst teams in the league. When he plays Rudy, he drops 40 on his head with ease. Brother, I have 47....
🔥🔥🔥
get a jazz player on the pod next week since they have no post season
Damn...just realized only 2 more Wemby games until next season
Don't forget to watch the Olympics, Wemby x Rudy in the paint in gonna be fun this summer.
@@Rai0h no 3 second rule with wemby rudy n sarr and a 6’10 risacher is damn cheating 😂😂
@@2ClutchCee sarr won't be starting they need spacing
@@luigidabest4743 but he’ll be in rotation a lot mid game for sure
@@2ClutchCee yeah he's gonna come in for gobert and then move wemby to the 5 for better rim protection while sarr can lock down on the perimeter
You are 1A and Draymond is 1B in terms of the best CZcams podcast.
Updated MVP ladder: 1. Jokic 2. SGA 3. Luka. Reason stated why Luka dropped despite producing more than SGA: He plays alongside a future HOF.
That draft 💀😂🥲 “filet mignon, Mbappe”
The wildest thing about this pod is JJ saying the draft has to be specific things and then drafts the whole city of Paris… bro could’ve at least said the Eiffel Tower
Hella media training before this interview.
People think Gobert is only good a D because of his height. Not true. First of all he worked hard on his body and his a gym rat. So he’s got the work ethic. Secondly, he works on his brain. He really understands team defense coverage in an out.
After his career I see him being an excellent assistant coach who can specialize on Defensive schemes and tutor the bigs
Wemby has by far the biggest individual impact on defense of any defender in this league and its not even close.
The only question is if that is the criteria for DPOY.. and it should be.
First, I love Wemby and appreciate his game
Though Rudy has been integral in creating the defensive scheme for the wolves.
Isn't that an incredible individual benefit to the team ?
Wemby will get the next 7 DPOY in a row. In his words : let him have it this year 😊
@@emmanuelcoquet6257 So are players like NAW or McDaniels. Its not Defensive Team Of The Year.
Defensive rating on/off difference
Wemby -12.0
Rudy -4.1
You can rename the award into Wemby Of The Year and you dont have to wait for next year to do that.
Lots of Rudy hate in here. Personally, I think he's underrated.
Don’t even think its hate he just hasn’t been the best defensive player this year
@CamPerry His defense has made the Timberwolves the #1 defense all year, and it wasn't even close.
Or are you only a stat guy? And before you say the Timberwolves have the best guard defenders too and that's why Wolves have best defense .. don't forget Utah was 3x best defense and those guards were slow and horrible at defense. That's how much Rudy impacts winning.
nope he plays with two good defensive wings he's overrated
@@weights250 i think both things can be true. McDaniels is easily one of the best perimeter defenders, if not the best.
Don’t understand why people dislike gobert so much
What makes Gobert great? Jayden McDaniels, Nickiel Alexander Walker, Mike Conley, and Anthony. Drop big defense works well when you have excellent point of attack and perimeter defenders. Exhibit B is the Bucks - what happens when you get rid of perimeter defenders and keep the drop big and roamer.
Rudy consistently made those Jazz teams top 10 defenses and they bad perimeter defenders.
Can someone let me know where is the Wemby talk?
I’d like to see non stat highlights
Love hearing how Rudy “took it personal” when a player was happy to get the switch. He’s been such an overrated defender because of them Utah playoff series and last year. He is an AMAZING defender and it’s good to hear how much he took it to improve his game and prove everyone wrong. He was the only good defender on the jazz it’s not his fault he didn’t get any help. Now on the wolves we can see how with competent defenders around him they are damn near unbeatable.
is there a Jokic portion? Let me know, will get back. Thanks!
No, but fortunately they got the greatest defensive big man of all time