Breaking Down the Nuggets and Pacers Comebacks From 0-2 | Game 4 Reactions | JJ Redick & Tim Legler
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- On this Monday’s episode of The Old Man and the Three Things, JJ is joined by ESPN’s Tim Legler to discuss the Game 4s of the Minnesota Timberwolves (Anthony Edwards, Karl-Anthony Towns, Rudy Gobert) vs. Denver Nuggets (Jamal Murray, Nikola Jokic) and New York Knicks (Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Donte DiVincenzo) vs. Indiana Pacers (Tyrese Hailburton, TJ McConnell) series', and break down the 0-2 comebacks of the Nuggets and Pacers. Plus, they also preview Game 4 of Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Dallas Mavericks. Let’s go!
0:00 Intro
0:35 Wolves vs. Nuggets
19:25 Knicks vs. Pacers
34:09 Thunder vs. Mavs
Subscribe to The Old Man and The Three podcast w/ JJ Redick (ESPN / First Take) and Tommy Alter CZcams channel today for more NBA analysis, player interviews and highlights. - Sport
Tim Legler is the best basketball analyst. No bias but pure Analyst.
Definitely!
Ben Taylor>
yup except for his bias against harden
Absolutely the very best!!!
@@kobekimber409 it's deserved criticism, not bias.
Please ask all of your media counterparts to keep counting the Nuggets out, they need to be the underdog to be hyper motivated.
Just saw some hilarious Jamal Murray and Jokic shirts on Etsy
Underdog?🙄 Stop it.
No need to ask , they all are racists
@@mwebster3265everyone thought they were going to get swept after the first 2 games and then quickly switched up when they proved them wrong
@@usko1029What are you even talking about dude? He was referencing the Nuggets. Lol.
Another JJ and Legs episode we are eating good today fellas
Don't forget the ladies
You're eating food while im eating p____y. We not the same
How to describe Denver rn, with a meme. The Breaking Bad one when Walter White says "I`m not in danger, I am the danger"
you god damn right
Denver right now is Walter when he blows up Tuco’s office with the fulminated mercury. Lol. Minnesota through two games was Tuco beating the hell out of Jesse prior to that.
(Addressing horrified Skyler:) “I am the one who knocks!”
Wolves in 7
@@Dilly_Dil1ywolves In 7!! All of us said it from jump. We gonna win on their floor.
Legs has been one of the best in the business for years when it comes to analyzing basketball from a completely objective point of view. I’m glad JJ has given him the platform to really showcase that. ESPN has never done him justice bc he isn’t controversial and generate views
I couldn't agree with you more, Tim is so entertaining to watch, he is so knowledgeable.
The real reason is folks have become smarter and realize who’s actually talking sense. Stephen A and the loud mouths have nothing to offer. But you’re right, Legs has been doing this for years and now seems to be coming mainstream which is great.
Rudy became a father in this series. Jokic became a Grandfather 😂
Jokic ate up gobert like a baguette 🥖 🥖 🥖
He made ćevape out of him. Like always.
Ayyo pause
Like a croissant
no diddy
@cupko1986 oh thats funny cuz your afraid people will think ur gay... i get it
That PF/C synergy point by Legs is another example of his genius
Legs should be a coach. If JJ gets hired, he should have Legs on his staff.
I agree. I am surprised that Legler never pursued coaching. But, I totally understand why he wouldn't. Lots of pressure and lots of bullshit inside and outside of the lines.
@@Youngboss1024 coaching is all stress. Sports casting is way chill
@@TaiyouArtthe enjoyment with the stress for sure
This is one of the greatest playoffs I have ever seen in the NBA. What drama. I thought the Nuggets were done.
Eh. Not sure about that. No Butler or Giannis in the 1st round, the Knicks are now missing multiple players and Leonard getting hurt again definitely swung the Mavericks-Clippers series. Porzingis is down too but should return for the Conference Finals. It has been a fun and unpredictable playoffs, but not the greatest, subjectively or objectively, unless you have only been watching for a few seasons.
@@nocturne311 I have been watching NBA playoffs since the 80s but I am more talking about the surprise effect and the quality of play. The European and African players have really revitalized the game in the NBA to a level that hasn't been seen before. The NBA used to be a US only sport but now it's becoming a worldwide sport more than ever. A larger talent pool=better play.
@@nocturne311girl relax
@@KAye633 as a nba historian what did he say thats incorrect? tell us
@@nocturne311 The Bucks would have lost with or without Giannis. They didn't figure out their offense through the 2nd half of the season and probably would have been outgunned by the Pacers.
JJ and Legs is the equivalency in synergy like Jokic and Gordon
JJ wants to cough so bad lol Ive been there. Salute for still showing up man. I woulda called out hahahah
This duo is pretty great.
Ngl Legs is really good on the internet . He can really break it down he knows his stuff
AG goint to Serbia twice & more has built a strong two man relationship similar to Jok & Murray. Legs said it earlier that 4-5 combo is one of the all-time greats ALREADY! AG has bought in from day 1 on being and doing exactly whats needed & more in Denver.
What people dont realise ,if denver wins this ,they are nba champs,Anthony Davis and Gobert,nobody is stopping Jokic in conference finals and Nba finals
I wouldn't assume that it's going to be so easy, but they are the defending champs, so it's absolutely possible
You gotta give credit where its due , Denver got balls man losing two at home and then winning two away! Thats not an easy feat especially against a team like Minnesota!
Pretty sure they've cameback from a 3-1 or 0 record before. So I wasn't too worried for em
@@KirasfoxNo team has come back from an 0-3 deficit.
@@Kirasfox it was 2 times from a 3-1
back to back series 3-1 comeback in 2020. Pre jamal acl injury and pre MVP jokic I think.
@@nocturne311 that's why I said or cuz I wasn't told sure
KAT is the big man version of D'lo.
he's the best 3-point shooter of the playoffs.... shut up
@@LuisRojas-mz2mg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love this take! 😂
Bro has low BB IQ... 😂
D’Hi
jokic brings back Nash nightmares for Shaq, for MVP, White Men Can't Jump...But they know how to win!
Good job on calling the game Legs, the only reason I kept watching the blowout. 👏🏾💪🏾
That Minnesota/ Denver game 3, reminded me when the Celtics (at home) went down 2 games to the bulls, rondo went down and then Celtics won 4 straight. No energy in that game 3 as well even though they were up 2-0 as an 8th seed
Put Legs in the thumbnail. It will attract more viewers!
When Jokic and AG are ultra connected that is the best version of the Nuggets because Murray and Jokic is already super dependable and it creates space for MPJ and KCP to shoot
Love Tim!! One of the best. Let’s go Nuggets!
JJ with the double chawski at 16:22 😂
Needed that buzz 😂
Wired
Always wondered why he was so twitchy, thought it might be mild turrets but now guessing it’s a bit of nicotine addiction
The best combo in the business !! Need a finals breakdown from these two every week !!!
Nesmith had to guard Tatum, and Brown in practice.
That has been huge for his development.
Good point
No one mentioned Jokic's pure brilliance. Wild.
They didn’t mention that the sky was blue either.
@@ianardell4660😂
Don't burn yourself out JJ! Get some rest my dude, everything falls apart without it
I was waiting for the analysis. Let's go JJ.
They still not giving jokic credit saying gobert a liabiltiy and AD was soft last series after he cooked them they saod this was the besg defencce since jordan and pippen now all of a sudden jts goberta fault its embarrssing give jokic his credit
Jokic ate up gobert like a baguette 🥖 🥖 🥖
Anything but giving the "boring" MVP his due. Best player in the world. SGA has been amazing this year but there is no doubt. A healthy Embiid would give Jokic a run for his money at the moment, but that's a big if.
Why should I give Jokic credit if DPOY doesn’t play like DPOY? The only reason Gobert is on the court is his defensive superiority and he was useless at both ends.
Jokic is the single greatest offensive talent in the NBA. You seriously think Gobert is going to stop him?
That's clown talk.@@berryesseen
Murray putting daggers in teams at the half.
It wasn't just 'the basics'. Malone's adjustment had Gordon and Jokic bringing the ball up the court instead of Murray because in G1 and G2 Murray was strangled bringing the ball up the court and the play wasn't starting until late in the clock.
100%
That’s crazy he strangled, must be why he was so upset. Thrown heat packs is said to the be the best remedy for strangulation while bringing balls up.
Jokes aside, good observation! That definitely made a big difference
Gotta appreciate Tim Legler!
That yellow and purple theme
🧐 🤔
Great analysis coach excited for you next year!
Always been a huge Tim Legler fan, happy that he is getting alot more recognition now, like broadcasting the game, and being on great podcasts like these
Reddick is so sharp. He will be a great head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers.
the 2 best NBA analysts (by far).
Congrats ESPN (great picks for your live broadcast teams)!
I like Legler, he should replace Doris Burke, because she is AWFUL. I and apparently thousands of people had to mute the TV yesterday, because of her.
She's a really good sideline reporter.... not so much play by play
She’s shamelessly biased and unprofessional. It was tough to listen to her coverage of that Knicks vs Pacers game. For local broadcast coverage it’s fine to be biased, it’s expected. For a national broadcast the expectation should be to be fairly neutral in your play by play analysis. She should be fined or something, that was awful.
The Kevin harlen call with the murray 3 at the buzzer was epic.
@@mosin9349 She sucks. I don't understand why ESPN continues to dump garbage on its viewers. Enough with filling quotas. I want people who bring actual analysis and unbiased information. This is why ESPN is a joke. I would've much rather listened to Van Gundy and Mark Jackson.
She is the absolute worst
Come on BABY LETS GO NUGGETS!!!!!!!!
JJ is going to be a great head coach some day.
i hope JJ feels better soon!
Game two wasn’t reffed like a basketball game. Happy Murray threw a heating pad instead of fists after Kat trucked him without a call. Reminded me of Rudy T and Kermit incident. “ never underestimate the heart of a champion.”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can’t complain. It made the series more fun and watchable.
@@berryesseenUh, I was ready to stop watching the playoffs entirely. I’m not interested in a rigged competition
HEART OF A CHAMPION: DENVER NUGGETS
JOKIC shouts.....Aknowledge me!!!!.. in his own unique style!!!
Americans look desperately for a new MJ figure... Ja, AE now......
Adimit it .... Nikola is the new sheriff in town!!!! :-)
What are you on about? Why did you call Anthony Edwards AD?
what's wrong with wanting a cool, playmaking guard wanting to be the stars? SG position players are always more fun to watch, and sells tickets. Basketball is about great shooting, dunks and circus shots, and Jokic dont do any of it.
@@WaveRider1989well he is a great shooter and makes plenty of acrobatic finishes. And of course he has one of the best passing highlight tapes of all time
@"circus shots" 😜, I kako znaš da ga zovem WaveWaveRider1989
Absolutely.Am telling those hyped kids that for years,but they are just too retarded to understand and as they are,perfect customers for new MJ, Kobe and others that media need like bread using the hype,Ja,Zion,now 🐜 it will be more.All for nothing Jok and Luka will stay at top till they decide to retire..
That end to the half going up 15 was huge/insane
Going back to what Legs was saying about the Jokic/AG due, it reminds me (granted with less individual/team success) to the early C-Webb/Divac days where both players were extremely smart with the basketball and knew how to play together at a very high level. As a Lakers fan, I hated that SacTown team but appreciated their beautiful brand of basketball (just like I love watching the Nuggets play)
Let's talk about how great the Pacers offense is! Let's discuss how they find the best shots and how the offense generates everyone getting in the game. Let's talk about 25+ assists per game this playoffs.
If they press full court, you can also set a bunch of picks, knock em down, free up space even more. Run sets similar to pick-and-rolls and get going down hill to get easy mini fast breaks.
Big 3 in Denver easily became a whole team.
Not a single foul shot by a Pacers starter. 8 total Pacers shots vs 27 Knicks foul shots.
Knicks have a top 10 defense. The pacers defense is second worst in the league. Some things just have a normal
Explanation
Which one held the other to 89 points?
Hey 342 production. Im a a spurs fan and after hearing the little bit on having great power forward and center pairings as well as the lottery drawings over the weekend i was hoping yall could do an islands in the league segment on "the next piece" for some of the lottery teams that week before rhe draft. Just bite sized 1 minute coverage of what JJ or the dunker spot feel the loterry teams need to get to make rhe most improvement next season. No need to throw in draft player names or look at potential trades, just " the spurs should look for a 2 guard who can shoot or a stretch 4 to pair with wemby."
Just draft guy named Nikola and you'll be fine
love tim legler
Legs is soo good - ty
Anthony Edwards crosses the FT line before the ball reaches the hoop on every FT attempt. Will the refs call him for a violation in this series?
Jj heard ur on deck 2 b the new scapegoat 😂😂 good luck genius
7:15 whoa 🤯
Jokic is the rain man of the NBA 😂😂😂
Preroll ad and then another 1 min in is nasty
Can’t stop thinking about how good Nuggets vs Celtics will be. Hope everyone on both teams stays healthy in the meantime
How about Nuggets Vs Pacers?
as a celtics fan I fear the pacers
Celtics can keep up with the Pacers scoring. Pacers can’t defend the Celtics.
@@Sitrastic you can't keep up with scoring with the pacers when it's hard for your main stars to stuff the stat sheets simultaneously together,Celtics are in for a rude awakening
@@CollinsGithinji-sp5fcno they are not
JJ can you rein in Breen and Burke next game? Their homerism was nauseating
Lets go JJ & Legs!!
Seeing Tim legler wear glasses is crazy 😭💀
And the media had the audacity to doubt the Nuggets. How many times do we have to prove them all wrong to get any respect?
wdym they lost 2 at home, of course they would doubt them, they were bad.They gave away 2 games already, they are still more likely to lose than win lol
@@Kuroganemk2 They Destroyed the Lakers (AGAIN) and after that series, The media was all "WHERE IS LEBRON GOING TO GO AFTER THIS SEASON? WHAT DO THE LAKERS NEED TO DO TO WIN AGAIN?" Instead of talking about the Nuggets....
Fast forward to this T-wolves series and it's all "Nuggets have been figured out! OH! THIS MINNEOTA DEFENSE!!!"
The Denver Nuggets, the most disrespected champs.
They got home-court advantage back. So how exactly are they "most likely to lose"? They're gonna exploit KAT and Gobert.
Denver in 6.
Denver was bad in their first 7 playoff series. They deserved all the criticism they received. The last 2 games don’t mean anything. Last year was a fluke.
@@Ysumguyfirst year as an NBA fan? Wow they played 5 very close games against a play in team where they had several double digit trails and then went down 0-2 to an actual playoff team and people dare be critical? Duuhhhhhhb
@@berryesseen It's something called "playoff experience" and something called "injuries". In 2020, they were healthy but little to no playoff expereince, but they still resulted in TWO 1-3 comebacks on the Jazz and Clipepes. 2021 and 2022 had season ending injuries for Murray and MPJ.
Last year was the first time we were finally all healthy and look at what happened?
What are you going to say if the Nuggets wins it again this year? Another fluke?
Tim legler was a 3 pt machine in the early 2000 nba live!
2 of the smartest people out there
I frankly love having Aaron Gordon bring the ball up and initiate the offense -- it's just a little off-kilter in a good way that allows quick points sometimes. I think it sets Jamal up much better, still allows Jokic to set screens/call for the ball, and doesn't really stop AG from sliding to the dunker's spot anyway, assuming he didn't just get a quick layup off some mismatch.
cool ... knows the guy who called the game. 😁
I agree with buddy there, their (The Nuggets) poise returned to being on point! That's gotta be intimidating to Minnesota. Now its all tied up! wow ... all road wins for those betting ... I wouldn't. I don't even play but no way. I did play proline back in the days around the 2000's but not no mo'.
Hard to believe its 2-2 now. Denver drawing on their experience to get back in it ...
Cool stuff. Watched it all ... NBA Playoffs!!
Before the Indy-NY series started lots of Pacers fans said Nesmith should cover Brunson. Took 2 games too long.
you brought up carlisle and how he has changed around who he has, you forgot to mention his first stint in Indiana and the challenges he had there and the very different personnel he had.
Please create a playlist/podcast named Tim Legler.
denver would do nothing without brilliant roleplayer named aaron gordon last 2 games . just watch his stats in wins vs lossses . dude is mvp of series
get well big bro
I thought Hank Hill was your guest for a second.
Whut? Dat boy ain't right. Bobby, boys don't play with dolls, son!
Damnn JJ you had a rough night?😂😂
Nuggets showing the championship toughness
Legs knows the game so well I wonder why he isn't coaching..Love to hear his oppinions on games...Jokic showed every doubters why he's the MVP he reminded all of them and Nuggets brand of bball that's team bball when thay play their brand of bball nobody can touch them
JJ is already rocking his Lakers colors.
Jj wearing gold, on a purple background 👀
Legler needs to call more games!
Tim Legler my goat
5280 Gangster Sweep
I don’t want to make one guy the problem, but so many of the plays they talk about KAT is directly involved, especially related to poise. He’s the difference for me
This has been like a Rocky film, you beat him up in the first two rounds and then he shows you why he's Rocky! Why the nuggs are the champs.
Funny but Gobert in the line-up stifles the Timberwolves' offense, as seen in games 1,3, and 4. They outrebounded the Nuggets (42-31) but failed to capitalize. Transition baskets are the key. And the Timberwolves offense was sputtering the last two games, which is a growing concern. Getting Gobert off the bench (??) and getting Towns and Reid involved early, and winning the 1st Q should be high on the Wolves' list next game.
Wolves got a tired and injured Nuggets to begin the series. Nuggets adjusting and taking next 2 games.
Wolves offense is regressing to their season average. Their first 6 games these playoffs they have a 126 off rating. That's gonna come down. If it doesn't, then they're gonna win the championship without losing a game lol
One day we’ll all be looking at brunson like we look at James harden. Excuses everywhere.
cant believe jj got hank hill :O
Jj reddick is up LeBron's behind his nose and lips are turning brown 😂
Legs doesn't miss
Let’s go Pacers!!
Maybe Minnesota plays better without Gobert. Jokic absolutely has him figured out and from a basketball IQ perspective, Gobert is just nowhere near Jokic.
Oh settle down. Its the ebbs & flows of a playoff series.
remove gobert and it gets even worse as a denver fan him and AD are the most bothersome defenders but fact is that no one in history can guard jokic
And thats why he should have 4 mvps
@@tellsteveharveyidontwanthe2283cuz denver hitting shots
Nope yall was bragging and he’s the DPOY so keep him
Martin's opinion I think it's over from Minnesota. But I think the Timberwolves will be the best team in the west next year
Pacers Knicks series is a little about the injuries and fatigue of the knick starters, but it's also about a very young roster in the Pacers finding out about themselves. Even the vets like McConnell and Turner are finding themselves comfortable in the trenches.
32:57 J.J. temporarily malfunctions
I vote to only show Legs' legs on camera and have his voice float down from on high.
Legler saved ESPN from being completely ignored for the rest of the playoffs. People were so fed up with ESPN announcing they were turning the volume off. Not good for sponsors.
Nuggets vs Timberwolves: overreacting in defense, not enough paas and touch for other player in the first 2 quarter so players get out of sync in offense . And it´s influence their defense. Bad rotation and confusion on the switch in the pick and roll situation. KAT wasn´t comitted on the switch so he flares back a lot meaning open man for Nuggets. It was to much iso for the Wolves. Caoch has to fix that if they want a chance to win. Also nuggets put the ball in Gordon hands to avoid trap and fullcourt press. Edwards want to an offensive furie but he needs to involve earlier his teamates because he can score anytime. For a young star this is difficult finding the balance between am the man, the leader, putting the act where my mouth is and involves his teamates in the game.
JJ with yellow hoodie 🤔
Ya mean lakers gold. Lets call it really like it is. Lol.
@@jaseallenson316 yeah lol
Yellow hoodie + purple background + white hat = lakers
Indiana yellow
Ballers wanna be rappers and vice versa lmao JJ dropping subliminal messages
Jamal Murray looking healthier definitely played a part in this series tie. 9ppg on 28% in Games 1 and 2. 21.5ppg on 50% in 3 and 4.
Gordon bringing up the ball with a higher frequency also helped relieve full court pressure from Murray and Jokic.