The Problem With Rotaries! | Carson Hill | EP 238
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What are the major differences between coil and rotary tattoo machines?
What are the similarities?
What caused the huge revolution in rotary machine technology?
What was wrong with coils to begin with?
In today's episode, we sit down with Carson Hill of Neuma Tattoo Machines to address all of these questions and much more.
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Here's my 2 cents..after 20 years of professional tattooing. I used coils in conjunction with needles I made myself(carbon needles primarily -NTA4's from national..theyre japanese carbon needles..very precise as opposed to the more typical carbon needles) stainless tubes and an rca jack instead of traditional clipcord, for 16 years. I started using rotaries, or I should say tried using rotaries about 4-6 years ago. First I was using InkMachines Dragonflies with my steel tubes and My needles..The thing I liked initially with that setup was how precise I could be with small intricate designs..I struggled with how slow they could be with bigger pieces and honestly didnt like the lack of weight..I also liked how the quiet didnt bother me. And also also they could put in heavy lines solid but slower. When I started delving into cartridges, I loved the simplicity and convenience and sanitary aspect...I pretty much dumped all my mental resources into using carts..and although i felt like I have always struggled with them I stuck with it because regardless my work was getting cleaner and more consistent. Then I stumbled on John Clark's magnetic rotaries and everything changed..Once I got them working(which took a lot of tweaking) I used that initial Mag rotary almost exclusively for a few years..I have dabbled in every type of rotary with carts in that time leading up to present day..Inkjecta, Swashdrive, Stigma, Dragonly, hardlife gambler pen, valhalla, Fk irons pen, DK sidewinder. What i have currently for carts alone is a Hard LIfe Omni V1 and the ink machine Scorpion.
This is the kind of stuff I could listen to for hours, looking forward to the next one!
Most often I try to use all three (coil, rotary, pen) machines for almost every tattoo I do to achieve an almost mixed medium affect. Each machine should be respected equally simply because one does what the others can Not do based on the geometry, force distribution and weight (feel) that each one uniquely owns. When it comes to the design of each (engineering, specifications and metals then that’s a different story. There are cheap poorly made pieces of junk and there are jewels in every type of machine. I’m just thankful our palette of goods keeps expanding. I’ve tattooed and continue to for over 30 years now and still feel blessed and driven. Awesome show btw
My thoughts on this subject is that it’s not so much on how the needle leaves but how it enters skin! With coil systems, the main thing I feel gives a advantage over the rotarys is the fact that it has for a lack of better words a bullwhip effect. Basically breaks the surface tension caused by the elasticity of the skin hence less trauma caused to the skin, while the rotary has a rolling effect and less of a punch which needs a bigger force by the user to physically push the needles in the skin to break the tension which will undoubtedly traumatize the skin more then needed to achieve the same results.
Love how detailed you get into this.
Always learning thanks to you guys!!!! I've been tattooing for 15 years plus, I switched to rotaries bout 5 years ago, and I feel way more efficient now, probably because of a lack of knowledge about coils... I may switch again thanks to this series of episodes... thanks again for all your efforts to educate all of us!!!! Take care
Awesome educational video, thanks to both of you guys for adding so much to our craft and always sharing the knowledge! yeeew!
Already loving this serie , thanks ✌
Great info, lokking forward to the rest of the series.. thanks for it!
Carson is the man... hes machines are the best !!!
Ive never used a coil, but I can't wait to listen and absorb the knowledge!
Absolutely Loved this Episode, one of my favorite. Can’t wait for the next one. 👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😎😎🔥🔥
round 12 years tattooing now i used/tuned/rebuilt my coils for the first 5-6 years and slowly moved to rotarys I couldn’t line with them to start off but as they have progressed i line just as well as i would coil, and rotary is a lot lighter and more balanced, saving RSI in the rist ,
great vid thanks guy learning so much ....
great start to a series!
Wonderful discussion!
what a great dialogue. Thanks guys
I like where you guys touch on sound of the machine to the skin. With a rotary I've found its kind of a feeling vs a sound you're looking for
carson is the best!!!
Keep em coming