China and Russia Reveal Plan To Build A Nuclear Power Plant On The Moon!
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Message from the USA to China and Russia
"The space race is over, we won, so don't go to the moon!!!
The race is over guys!!!
We faked it but won!!!
So please stop!!!!
USA!!!"
There seems to be a small mistake: When mentioning the chinese/russian cooperation, the video shows the flags of today-Russia and past-USSR, whereas I assume the idea was to show the russian and chinese flags?
Who cares… this is pure fantasy…
Both countries are on the verge of collapse this decade… LOL
😂
If you squint your eyes it looks like the Chinese flag
The USSR never left. It was a psyop 😮
@@HWQFishYeah, just watch them flip their name tag in the UN with the push of a button 😄
Cooling towers on the moon, thats hilarious.
Honestly it's as plausible as Russia and China (a) Working together (b) putting a nuclear power plant on the moon.
Yeah, more like large umbrella sort of radiators.
@@THX..1138 are you trying to say that it's not possible or something? honestly it's hard for me to say because western people are so deluded on the western propaganda like this video as well.
That's the thumbnail
@@korana6308how many flags has your country planted on the moon?
ok cool...now let's stop doing war here and work together to get this going faster on the moon.
Depends on what the Rich men north of Richmond decide what is more profitable $$$$$$$ . War . or mining ⛏️ the moon.
I think we will use space to stand up to china. It’s kinda a different story with Russia bc of the proxy war we are in.
Sorry, but the USA is not trustworthy
@indianastan No words were ever spoken more True
To late
This is awesome, nuclear power would be great on mars to because the solar panels would get covered in dust all the time.
I want all the missions to succeed! Go humanity! Let's get to the Moon and Mars!
Let's even go beyond solar system
Superbly enjoy all of the different news articles yall compile in such detail and the explanations given. This channel rocks!
I like your presentations. Very little fluff and good facts.
Nuclear power is the way to go. The heat can be radiated away if anyone is thinking an earth type nuclear reactor on the dark side of the generator, reactor or craft. But small plutonium decay reactors as used on current probes is doable, they just need more of them or scale them up. Then utilized rockets to launch and spent radioactive material into the sun to get rid of the problem. Clear forward thinking on removable plutonium pellets built into serviceable fuel modules, that can be replaced (as needed) and then placed into a transport vehicle that can be launched from the moons surface to the sun. Depending on which plutonium isotope used, the half life of the plutonium 238 used in the Perseverance Rover for example is 87.7 years… so these power systems are both practical and reliable. Assuming the launch vehicle from earth does not experience a RUD on takeoff or landing.
The Wikipedia article on Pu-238 explains the problem of it being a weapons production byproduct. We are almost out, and it will take $$$ to set up dedicated production.
@@VicariousAdventurer I worked with radioisotopes for 41 years and have been a reporting officer to the NRC and three state radiation control departments… however… I know about supply issues with 238. I was giving an example of what can be done. The thumbnails and pictures of nuclear power plants in the video is a misleading set of narratives
Sending material to burn up in the sun is quite difficult. You have to slow it down, ie overcome the speed the earth is orbiting at (107,000 km/h) in order to have it fall into the sun. This requires a serious rocket, even with the low gravity of the moon. It’d be much simpler to just bury it somewhere on the moon, there’s not a lot of protest groups there to harass politicians and change their minds 😉
It's honestly the Russian or Chinese construction that concerns me.
Russia has an abysmal record with space and safety (in general) and China.. their engineering ideas and construction realities.. might as well be on two different planets. You can literally break apart Chinese concrete they make buildings out of.. with your fingers.
With the CCP in control and with Russia.. in any version of itself we've ever seen.
Competence has never been their strong suit
And I haven't even got to the horrifying reality of their reactors. Obviously a reactor in space is different somewhat.. but they can't build, operate, service, or sustain these things safely or environmentally.
Good news is.
Russian has dozens of irresponsibly abandoned RTGs just laying around Siberia waiting to become toxic ecological catastrophes. So they could probably save a couple bucks and just throw one into space and hope it gets lucky and sits within the Russian Federation/USSR Safety record of successful launches and missions.. of under 37% of all launches.
So.. you know.
No worries there I guess.
@@matthewbartley2746 mate you've been fed up on the western bs propaganda too much. Welcome to the reality check. Rus. nuclear power plants are the most advanced and the most reliable in the world. The ISS is actually a Russian program of "Mir 2" that has been powering the the whole station. It is connected to the Russian service module this whole time and has been as reliable as it gets throughout this whole time.
Also the Chinese is the only nation in the world that has a space station. There's only 2, the Chinese one and the Russian one - the ISS ( which was joined by USA in the 90s), there's nothing more reliable and advanced in Space than Russia and China at this point.
that thumbnail is wild
E.T lands next to them and says 'greetings earthlings!, take me to your dealer!'
STARSHIP WORKED!!!
The Cassini probe was invented in 1954? Sounds like a bit of proofreading is necessary.
I wish some organized moon rover like Boston Dynamics spot. That would be better fit in rough environment like the Moon and Mars.
Why have nuclear power, when you can build a lunar base at the south pole where there is constant solar power available?
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0:17 omg he said it
He really did say the space race
@@anteros__everyday problem right there
по чисто технической драматургии, всё интересное должно случиться прямо на старте и при входе в атмосферу Гавайев.)))
No steam would come out of your cooling tower. No atmosphere
Steam can,still come out, but don't come to the US station to borrow more water...
Would suggest supercritical CO2 - in the same state for a wide range of temperatures (giving freedom to run at various power levels and not be hemmed in by the entropy waste and physics of always making sure things are converted to the proper phase), and Tesla's (the original genius) idea for turbines is astonishing in its compactness, which particularly matters when there is a mass limit.
If they put there heads together china and russia could seriously win the race back to the moon .
There are places in the North Pole of the Moon that are always illuminated by the Sun.
In the South Pole there are places that receive sunlight for more than 70% of the lunar day. It means that this places will have a night of aprox. 9 Earth days.
في المستقبل البعيد وبفضل التكنولوجيا المتقدمة سوف يتساوى الخيال مع الواقع ويمتلك الإنسان قوى الآلهة ليحول الكون والأكوان المتعددة إلى جنة خالدة ❤
Where are they going to get the water supply to heat up for steam to turn the turnbine?
Assuming they won't be able to find a continuous supply of water, how large does the radiator field have to be to cool down the steam? I guess they could just pump those steam through cooling pipes buried in the moon surface. That would still be huge, though.
My generation in the sixties and seventies had the right stuff !
Today's generation has NATO
(No action, talk only)
using atomic batteries it can be a thing ...merlin engines are possible also (using light and shade differential) ...at least we know not to build any windmills...
I wonder if it's possible that you could fix the leg with robotics
This gets me in the mood to watch the first episode of Space:1999 titled "Breakaway" - because the explosion of the nuclear waste blows the moon out of orbit
Crazy! Omg
Some thing like that I believe wont be seen for at least another 50 years or longer
Yes Americans will probably watch the Russia/China nuclear plant land on the moon from a pizzeria in the great domed city of Hellas Planitia.
How long could SPACEX park IFT-3 in orbit once achieved? Long enough for the next Starship and reueling? Should there be a special parking orbit for Starship sized rockets and payloads?
I would think that solar panels would be quite effective and a lot less expensive.
14 days of night indeed is a problem for a photovoltaic power station. But if the solar panels are placed on mountain peaks or crater rims near the lunar poles, they almost permanently receive sunlight. My tram already has evaluated the data. at least for 300 days per year we receive sunlight.
And under these conditions, photovoltaic power plants are more efficient, safer, simpler, and require much less payload than a nuclear reactor.
You wrote a lot yet said… Nothing? What happens with maintenance for example..?
@@angelsackson what did you not understand in my comment? I do not see a reason why a nuclear reactor should require less maintenance than a photovoltaic power plant
An atomic bomb disguised as a cargo rocket.
failure on take-off, which country will it fall on?
How do they plan to deal with Moon Dust when erecting this power plant idea?
You should mention ISRO's Pushpak spaceplane in the next video.
I thought pushpak was Ravana's.. isro got it?
@@supersaiyan_420 im talking about ISRO's RLV that just got named pushpak.
We don't care ISRO trash 😂😂😂😂
Ah.!! Small Nuclear Modular reactor...(5-10 MW)...sized of Lunar Module.
Keep it up, love the reporting. You are my go to source for space news, thank you
I’m trying not to laugh. Lunar Belt and Road meets Soviet Universal Union 2.0. Good luck.
nice
That means the lunar NPP module will be operational/under construction some 5-10 years before the planned joint landing of Chinese and Russians on the Moon. They quite obviously bet on AI robotics.
Thank you the information a breath of fresh air 2 strong powerful countries joint efforts developed of the human race the technology that they have and advanced technology developing so fast robotics will built the structures needed for human survival in space . Prayer for the success look forward to watching development
1:11 nice AI
I thought these artemis rockets were supposed to launch 1 per year? They cant seem to even get 1 a year completed?
Artemis is just using leftover shuttle parts. NASA never wanted it.
How much is it gonna cost to get fuel up there😅. Hopefully we could come to some sort of an agreement of no military settlements on the moon
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Thorium salt might solve the nuclear heat problem.
Why even bother when theres all that sunlight just sitting around.
I find the picture funny. You have a smoke/ steam tower in the vacuum of the moon😅
Water?
Nuclear plant for the moon makes a lot of sense. Also for Mars, since solar panels are a bad idea for Mars (hear that Elon?)
I’m here for the comments
One can not build a working aircraft carrier the other can't afford one, building on the moon for either of them is a pipe-dream.
They have built a really nice space station on their own.
The Aircraft Carrier doesn't care the same prestige Space stuff does. China wants prestige and it aims to get it by kicking our ass with building a moon base.
If we didn't have the Antarctic South Poll station they would likely be doing that, but we won that one so there is no point.
And yeah, we put men on the Moon, but we haven't built a base which will be a big note in the history books.
@@Steven_EdwardsPutting something up that is the easy part, Having it work is another, It will never happen it is beyond them.
Про не работающий авианосец - это про Британию??😅 России авианосцы не нужны, а у китайцев продукт лучше, чем вам кажется. 😅 Так что не завидуйте. Кстати, у кого самый большой атомный ледокольный флот? И кто разработал реактор на быстрый нейтронах ( безотходное производство ) - это Россия. А теперь ответь мне, что у вас есть похожее. В твоем айфоне запчасти из Китая и собирал их Китай, а сапфировое стекло из России 😂 живи теперь с этим в своем узком мирке😂
@@Militaryst.The kool-aid you have drunk.
So are they saying that the moon is not a plasma ball then?
Chernobyl on the moon.
Nice.
This isn't just another payload. That thing's carrying plutonium.
-For All Mankind
Sustainable Moon Energy: Why not use a similar methodology of satellite solar around the moon?
I love that there’s literally nothing we can do about rich people or governments doing things on the moon lol. Like we all “own” the moon but what tf would we even do to stop people from f**king up our shared satellite.
I'd visit
Kool just let Shinra do what they want...
Soooo thats what everyone is doing - Nuclear Thermal drives , and the power for the Vasmir Ion drive.. Also lookup KRUSTY project by nasa
Maximal radiatsia
starsship is the only way we can even think of buildind a base on the moon with not bankrupting a nation if it works that is
10t is probly the min we need to get a real go at base with some isu resource buildind
Who ever is reading this, you are loved.
no navy
if their combined ecconomies can handle it. I really hope they do it American is too low
no bill
I mean its a good idea.
Imaginen what stuff is already there if they need nuclear power😂
The USA being trying to say they own the moon 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everyone knows that China owns the moon since ancient time 😂
The Navy and NASA collaboration is really interesting. I know they are testing for the Artemis mission but why won't they apply that to SpaceX dragon crew recovery?
Russia's "Expertise" on Nuclear Space Energy... Do what now? They have a fairly good track record. Except Chernobyl (which was dumped on Ukraine), Kyshtym & Chelyabinsk of which went relatively unknown. There were probably a couple more. There's a reason it's called the "Iron Curtain." A "Lead Curtain" would be too obvious, although I would've spell't it "Led Kurtain" to be hip & in with the times... Kashmir is a great song.
It depends on what they considered important. Space reactors and nuclear rocket propulsion had a higher priority than everyday citizen concerns.
Mate the Kyshtym tragedy was dawn of nuclear development, and it's not related to the nuclear power plant generation. Russia has a superb record on it's nuclear power plant exploitation. The Chernobyl accident was the only exception which happened in ukr. mind you, but we will not be getting into it now... The Chernobyl had 2nd gen nuclear reactors, Russia now is building 4th gen. Nothing like Chernobyl can happen again, due to many factors and protective measures.
Why don't NASA just land in the desert like Russia and China, instead of the ocean.
Space race is real with serious consequences.
Yeah, isn’t the moon that place where there’s like no atmosphere so no protection from incoming meteor strikes. Yeah I’m sure this will work out well lol.
I mean, what’s a meteor strike against the nuclear power plant. Yeah, I’m sure nothing will go wrong at all.
The china and russian moon project is gonna be like working a group project in high school. Chinas gonna do all the work while russia stands theres and takes all the credit😂
I think it'll be the other way around, russia has an insane amount of experience and optimisation knowledge on nuclear technologies, if anything i'd say that China still has work to do to catch up on them, i know it's hard to imagine, but the actual objective leader in the world in nuclear research and tech is Russia, not France, not the U.K, not China, neither the U.S, at least when we're talking about nuclear fission.
Tbh, Russia is the better one when it comes to Nuclear Power, and using Nuclear Power in different environments
Good points, the russians definitly have more expierence than the chinease
Russia for space applications, though I do not know how much progress since the hard-charging days of the CCCP. The US also did a lot of research cuts in the 90s, though the focus was on alternative reactors and safer breeders. I could point to an Argonne Dr. who was p$*%%d
Not all scales are linear, sometimes there are strengths and weaknesses. China has probably spied out what they can from the US and USSR.
Its about time. As every legitimate archeologist knows the oldest discriptions in humanity of the moon come from China (Chinese Lunar New Year for example) Thus the entire Lunar Surface belongs to China & has all along. So its appropriate that China claim it and do what it wants on their moon without the West trying to provoke or interfere with China's mission.
Nah its not a huge battery problem. You use Hydrogen generators. During the Lunar day you use Solar to separate water/hydrogen which you then store ti burn later.
Your water is the battery uncharged and your separated hydrogen and o2 is your battery in the charged state.
During the 14 day lunar night you have all the power you need.
Joke: Sent a metal 3d primer without anybody watching (NASA AND ESA). And qet fun building a lunar base White streaming to make nasa feel bad.
do they no that the moon is pulling away from the earth
Also China is going to move its capital to Moscow and rename it New Beijing
And New York will turn into New Mexico City, hombre
it may be true, may be a strategical lie. It should strike a nerve depending what "side" your on. "Settlement" is a interesting term, what it truly mean? probably not a research base but militarily and mining base. The only things worth mining is materials for nuclear fusion. Does that mean Russia and China have the technology to build a workable fusion energy plant? Bear my words, US may crack the code for nuclear fusion but they will never build the plant as long as they process the top fissile fuel storage.
How is the sun shining from 4 different angles in your thumbnail?
A nuclear reactor on the moon will be also done by the US, this has been theplan.
Environmentalist will stop that cold! U.S. takes 22 years on average to get through the court battles and regulations to even begin to start construction of a nuclear power plant!
3:37 wrong flag...it is a USSR flag, not Chinese
There so much energy in space! First you can send a finger probe to Uranus and it will come back rich in brown ore,filled with methane gas that can fuel a rocket
If only the US were to join forces with China for space exploration, we would be so far ahead right now. The US has the tech and China the experience. China landed on Mars on its first try. It has land softly on the far side of the moon. This wasn't 50 years ago, either.
What are they doing smh govs can do whatever they want but a normal human cant do shit without going to jail or being call a terr smh
The Indians could take one of RollsRoyce's miniature nuclear powerplants to the moon. USA will never get there.
HEAT PROBLEM = you have to condense the heat in a solid (soil, block of metal, etc) and physically "throw it on the moon" and then recuperate it after it's cooling cycle is done (6 months? 1 year?)
❔A cooling cycle is 14 days on the moon. 14 x 24 hours of permanent exposure to sun light without the help of water or even an atmosphere. The 14 day long night should be straight forward, though it first also needs evaluation.
Probably have pipes circulating in the crust at the South Pole.
At e South Pole, there are some areas in permanent shadow (in dips) - and even the lighted areas are very strongly slanted light, think of the warming difference in Summer on Earth at the North Pole versus Equator. Extensive pipes can carry heat through regolith. For small reactors, high levels of heat can be radiated away. Like in a reactor for space (someone once pointed out that radiative cooling goes as T^4, which was a little embarrassing since I should have thought of that)
Also, you usually do not have to dig so far (beyond a skin depth) as to get a temp that is an average of the surface temperatures. 14-day days and nights aren't even the yearly variation that heat pumps on Earth deal with. Exponential decay of temperature oscillation with depth does the job. Unfortunately, the same factor involving distance from the pipe means an extensive field is needed, so I only see this for a large installation.
@@VicariousAdventurer Very interesting, it cools by being in contact with other physical molecules around it, acting like air, but in the ground. Clever.
A nuclear powerplant on the moon?! Storing its radioactive waste on the moon?! Our science fictional past should remind them how bad an idea that would be. 😉
We will have the Tesla Bot on mars within 4 years.
Fanboy fantasy !
@@sidstevens9035 hard to say that when SpaceX just now literally sent a building into space without issue. Biggest rocket in the history of humanity is not orbiting earth. Fan boy nothing, tomorrow is now.
@@johnsonrepp I'm a SpaceX fan, but the Tesla Bot is kind of... bad, lol
@@serenityindeed it is the future, non the less.
Meanwhile in our country , we have people worried about wildlife in a swamp by Elon and hold us back , Sad the bs we do to our own people
The 2 countries build second rate equipment, Russia can't even produce a decent car and China with it's tofu dreg building, It's guaranteed to end up being another disaster.
Ah hello remember Chernobyl?
A nuclear reactor failure on the moon isn’t as serious as one on earth. Additionally space is filled with shit tons of radiation. A nuclear reactor meltdown will be minisicule compared to the radiation that’s already there.
I doubt Russia in China can even afford to even land on the moon. Let alone set up a colony.
if only you listen to the snn
Mate. China is the only nation that has a space station, aside from the ISS. People need to wake up and open their eyes. Ya'll been lied to by the west.
China might be able to do it (even on its own) but russia havent done anything new for 25 years.
Russia should try and put a man on the moon first.
Starship is a disaster from start to finish.
Oh and the line of the video was from the scientist who said "heat dissipation is really the only technical hurdle to solve" as if that was something new and not the direct problem and reason we have not put active nuclear reactors into space based craft for the last 70 years despite being able to make them small enough to do so for the last 70yrs and nothing has changed in the immutable laws of thermodynamics nor materials sciences to make that any easier today than it was 70 years ago. Heat is heat. On the plus side at least you dont have to worry about fallout from a meltdown.
Sombody should make a hallowed out 747 and make it have thrust victoring and nuclear powered,uav with a camera and see if it can fly to space,usa could