MS Diets (Wahls, Swank, OMS, Best Bet, Healing MS)
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- A description of 5 popular diets purported to treat multiple sclerosis: Wahls Protocol, Swank Diet, Overcoming Multiple Sclerosis (OMS), Best Bet Diet, Healing multiple sclerosis
Other videos on these diets:
Swank Diet: • The Swank Diet for Mul...
Healing multiple sclerosis: • Neurologist Reviews "H...
OMS summary: • Neurologist Summarizes...
Wahls protocol Summary: • Neurologist Summarizes...
Selected Sources:
Impact of the Swank and Wahls elimination dietary interventions on fatigue and quality of life in relapsing-remitting multiple sclerosis: The WAVES randomized parallel-arm clinical trial: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34377...
Swank 34 year diet study: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1973220/
Health Outcomes and Lifestyle in a Sample of People With Multiple Sclerosis (HOLISM): Longitudinal and Validation Cohorts: www.frontiersin.org/journals/...
Longitudinal associations between quality of diet and disability over 7.5 years in an international sample of people with multiple sclerosis: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37433...
Best bet diet recipe’s from directMS: www.direct-ms.org/wp-content/...
Best bet diet checklist: mshope.com/wp-content/uploads...
Best bet diet supplement recommondations: mshope.com/wp-content/uploads...
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Dr. Brandon Beaber is a board-certified neurologist with subspecialty training in multiple sclerosis and other immunological diseases of the nervous system. He is a partner in the Southern California Permanente Medical Group and practices in Downey, California (South Los Angeles). He has several publications on MS epidemiology and has participated in clinical trials for MS therapeutics. You can follow him on twitter @Brandon_Beaber where he regularly posts about MS news and research.
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They all did very well selling books!
Yeah I always find Wahls a little disturbing to listen to. She glosses over her own chemo treatment very quickly and chalks everything down to diet... Which is absurd. Yes a good diet is beneficial, this is the case for everyone on the planet. But ignoring DMTs is dangerous in this conversation. I also wonder about confounding factors / variables - someone who looks at improving their diet may generally have a healthier lifestyle (no smoking, more exercise, different job, different environment, more likely to adhere to DMT perhaps etc - all variables not taken into account). Side note: looking at Wahls comment section on her vids there are many who don't take DMTs... I find this quite disgusting that she doesn't address this / downplays her own drug use as insignificant or "not working".
While I applaud the effort of these authors to promote a diet that could help people with MS, most of these diets are simply too complex to adhere to. The very nature of MS symptoms include limited mobility (affecting people's ability to travel to the store to obtain many of these foods consistently), memory/cognition issues interfering with the ability to prepare and track consumption, and other physical issues limiting the ability to prepare it. All of these factors will lead to frustration and disappointment to most who attempt these diets. My best advice is to focus on weight management and exercise. Limit processed foods and refined sugars. I think intermittent fasting is a FANTASTIC and easy way to control insulin spikes and lose weight easily without much preparation or feelings of deprivation. I believe as more studies are done about intermittent fasting, its benefits will become more apparent.
Except for Best Bet Diet. You can download the book for free and log into their monthly zoom meetings to ask questions as well. I'm not on that diet anymore, but I am still really impressed with how willing they are to put in so much time and effort to help provide all of that for MS patients.
@@authenticmslifemoney is not the only ulterior motive for “helping” people.
@@authenticmslife The OMS book is also free, you can get a hard copy delivered to tour door
I follow the OMS diet and I feel great. I dont get bloating and fatigue at all, also the main purpose of the diet is to prevent you from developing future diseases such as diabetes or heart conditions. By eating healthy you wont have high cholesterol thus your chances of getting other diseases goes down to minimum.
I have also met up with a lot of people who has MS and are following the OMS diet- they are all walking and their condition is stable. Some of them are on dmts others not by their choice of course.
IDEA for VIDEO. Effects of exercise on all aspects (with or without MS) and the effects of exercise on NATURAL myelin replenishing and the CNS
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@DrBrandonBeaber Would also be interested in this. Though you've covered exercise in the past, there are now bold claims being made by many neurologists claiming that exercise may be thought of as another DMT by how effective it is. I doubt science has progressed since I last looked into this specific topic, so I would like to know what has given rise to this idea.
My personal experience… I had my MS diagnosis in Apr 2017.. and in the followup MRI exactly 12 months later, in Apr 2018, the radiologist reported the lesions shrunk in size … and in those 12 months I did long distance running more than 1000 km (mostly triggered by anger after the diagnosis).
Today, I’m unable to run due to the disease progression. But I keep myself active with other exercises…
Hi doctor B, fir me personally best thing is this - DEFERENCE BETWEEN MEDICINE AND POISON IS IN THE DOSE. I eat everything, but limited process food, dairy, sugar, salt, fats.
MS is taking away for me to many things, will never taka away pizza, pasta, in some cases Irish whisky, red wine. MS is no stronger than me, I'm whit EDSS 7.5 but never give up.
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I have heard this sentiment before.
Hello Dr Baeber, I've been with you since the beginning of my MS symptoms (approximately a year ago). I'm scheduled to undergo HSCT in California. My experience getting this covered by my insurance was not as easy as it should be, but it was FAR FAR easier than what I was expecting it to be. I think it would be very beneficial for your viewers to know more about my experience. It seems to echo the experience of younger americans that are currently seeking this procedure. I believe, at least in the US, from my talks with various providers and my insurance case manager, that HSCT is starting to find its way into our healthcare system. Not sure if this would translate well into video format, but I believe awareness needs to be raised.
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I understand if you don't want to answer this, but can you share how/ why you are proceeding with HSCT after only a year of diagnosis? Usually, it's a "last resort" therapy.
@@KaitCervi Neurologists like to say it is a "last resort", but if you look at the studies HSCT is most effective the sooner you're able to get it. In fact, once you cross to progressive disease, which often is a function of age, HSCT becomes significantly less effective.
I am fairly skeptical of any diets claiming to "cure" or beat MS. My first relapses in the mid 90s resolved over time without any change to my lifestyle or diet. I wasn't diagnosed with MS until 2013, although there were four or five distinct episodes of new damage/relapses that were occurring that I recovered from almost completely over time. However, if I had been diagnosed, and jumped on board with one of these diets back then, I would have believed that it was that diet keeping my MS stable and symptom free for all the years I had no significant problems. I just don't think the science backs it up.
I do think though that any diet that you can stick to, that avoids processed foods, excess sugar and salt etc is going to be beneficial for over health outcomes for everyone, including those with MS.
Yes of course many people with MS do well without any treatment (or any specific diet), particularly younger people with relapsing MS.
Hi Dr Beaber, fantastic video! It’s telling that the one thing they all have in common is no dairy. I’ve had MS since 1998 and tried to adopt the OMS diet for a couple of years. Kudos to Prof Jelinek whose research showed me just how important diet is and how much control we have. By modifying his diet, I’ve created my own Food Medicine Diet that’s easy to stick to and got me to NEDA without medication. 🎉 sincerely grateful for your open minded helpful videos. Dani
Thanks for sharing this info. I did a lot of reading about MS diets after my diagnosis and learned that I was mostly compliant with my current diet at the time. I’ve since gotten more strict at avoiding dairy, inflammatory oils and have added fish and flax oil supplements, along with vitamin D with K2. I also take probiotics every morning and have followed a 16-8 intermittent fasting schedule for the past 4 years. I started fasting 2 years before diagnosis and noticed I had more energy and less gut issues. I was also able to maintain the 20 pounds I lost working on my new house at the time. I don’t follow a strict diet, but I’d call mine a modified Mediterranean diet low in saturated fat, dairy, and sugar. I avoid processed foods entirely with limited exceptions based on the ingredients. There are some good snacks out there, but you have to know your ingredients.
For anyone looking to eat cleaner I would recommend checking out Bobby Parrish’s channel. My wife and I have learned a lot from him.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the nice summary of the different diets!
My concern with Dr. Wahls is she claimed to have cured her MS..that truly bothered me as a healthy lifestyle does impact the disease but that’s not a cure…so while do agree with several of diet recommendations…I don’t agree with misleading statements.
Well, in her case.... she did improve herself from being wheelchair bound (one of those recliner ones, she was in a bad state!) to being functional walking around working out... so. There's that.
@@LordPinky455 I agree she has made significant improvement...but its not a cure...
Matt is a great guy and extremely impressive. I met with Anne face to face. Unfortunately, she’s no longer with us. Matt’s is def the way to go.
Thank you for being so professional and helpful Brandon! :)
Thanks for the kind words
A very interesting, valuable and rational summary. Thanks, Dr B.
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Dr Beaber has done an excellent job of summarizing the recommendations of the BBD He also clearly provides some of the scientific reasoning behind the recommendations. Overall a very fair and comprehensive overview of the BBD. Thank you very much. Ashton Embry
Evidence based Dr. Thank u Dr & Happy Easter
Happy Easter to you too Colleen.
Love hearing that you are collaborating with the University of Melbourne - looking forward to reading any research results! I’ve been following the OMS protocol for 4.5 years (diet, exercise, meditation, vitamin D, and medication (Ocrevus in my case)). I’ve learned so much and am so glad there is an option out there that is integrative on every level!
The HOLISM study is well constructed, in my opinion ….
Thank you for this video & for all your contributions to the MS-verse!
I'll definitely post a video when there are results.
I tried , but difficult maintain got and trying to cook a different meal for the family.
I think eating non processed foods, veggies and fruits, fiber makes sense.
Moderation, I think is really the key. You can experiment and if you find you feel better not eating a particular item then of course, by all means, stop eating it.
Hi doctor Beaber
Quick question, what is your professional take on autophagy in combination with good quality food en lifestyle which does so much more I think?
And the title says diets, but lifestyle changes is maybe a better term?
Thanks for sharing, I watched all your videos but this is the first and maybe the last time I placed a comment
Woww. This is very useful information. 16:55
Thank you so much for the video!
glad it helped
Thank you for this video Dr. B! Any thoughts on brucella/brucellosis and it's influence on MS? ❤😘🙏✌️
There is no known association to my knowledge
As important as what they tell you ,, it's just as important as what they don't tell you ! How many have undergone other treatments such as stem cell therapy ? and diet is just a complimentary addition . Like everyone MS or not we should be eating healthily .
Some of them are open about other treatments they have received. Professor Jelinek has received copaxone. Dr. Wahls has received injectibles, tysabri, novantrone, and cellcept.
So when you've had other treatments , how is it possible to say that recovery / better health is down to any one of them or your healthy diet ?
P.S. Love what you do , many many thanks !
@@kevinobrien5964 particularly the chemo like treatment that Wahls had, like mavenclad I suppose it is HSCT-lite where long term remission may be triggered if you're lucky - I find it dangerous of Wahls to place a great deal of the emphasis on diet. Of her interviews/documentary form video she spent 1-3 minutes discussing her treatment and the remaining 95% of her time talking about diet. That said a good diet is beneficial for everyone.*
Great point
Wahls protocol helped A LOT
Had to avoid gluten since before Dx of MS. I was 100% dedicated to best bet diet but after nearly 5 years on it, being strict, following their own (much simpler now) supplements and minerals and had a relapse. I think generally pairing a diet that omits known inflammation like diary and anything you're sensitive to, along with reducing processed foods while increasing green/vegetables you're going to feel better and it's unlikely to make anything worse.
I've been diagnosed with CIS 3 months ago and I've been following the OMS diet since then. I'm also limiting gluten and taking various supplements (B12, magnesium, probiotics, Q10, omega 3, vit D, curcumin). It's too early to see whether it will make a difference, but I feel good.
Hi, my routine: Daily intake: D3 5k + Magnesium 400mg + 2kmg Omega3 + gluten-free + healthy diet + 10k daily walks + intense gym 3 times a week + 8 hours of sleep. 1 year since RR MS diagnosis - Only residual vision issues and some discomfort. Greetings from Argentina.
I subscribe to the best pet diet from Matt Embry. Does help a lot. My only downfall is I love dairy Dr.B. Do you think there is a major issue consuming dairy for MS patients?
I applaud you for taking the time to do this analysis. My take on how to improve my MS symptoms with food is to keep it simple. I have very limited energy. I try to use a great deal of it to exercise simply and prepare simple healthy foods rather than grabbing easy processed foods. I can just hope that in the long run, this change will help to improve my energy. Only then can I consider spending even more energy to follow a strict diet protocol. I'm not a great cook and the effort it takes to learn how to prepare foods I'm not used to, let alone the energy and money to buy what I need to cook these foods, is currently overwhelming. I laughed when you used the word "compliance" to describe MS patients following a strict diet protocol for a study. I would call it "achievement" instead. Those who could follow it are already better off then those who didn't have the energy to follow it. I consider this the biggest flaw in all of these studies.
I agree with you. This is a classic paradox :). To follow these diets needs energy. They promise that following these diets release more energy. The thing which helped me is.. creating a rigid plan and forcing myself to stick with it consistently.
While I applaud the effort of these authors to promote a diet that could help people with MS, most of these diets are simply too complex to adhere to. The very nature of MS symptoms include limited mobility (affecting people's ability to travel to the store to obtain many of these foods consistently), memory/cognition issues interfering with the ability to prepare and track consumption, and other physical issues limiting the ability to prepare it. All of these factors will lead to frustration and disappointment to most who attempt these diets. My best advice is to focus on weight management and exercise. Limit processed foods and refined sugars. I think intermittent fasting is a FANTASTIC and easy way to control insulin spikes and lose weight easily without much preparation or feelings of deprivation. I believe as more studies are done about intermittent fasting, its benefits will become more apparent.
I don't find these diets 'simply too difficult to adhere to' many do, but many maintain such diets. Diets very greatly around the world and always have.. We get used to certain diets and shop accordingly, but once a different shopping list is adopted and a few new favorite recipes are used its easier than many would believe.
There is a study out recently linking intermittent fasting to cardiac arrest.
@@rosieposie9564 also, that study has not been peer reviewed and was an observational, self reported one. Very suspect. Big pharma wouldn't like it if people lost weight by limiting caloric intake because then they wouldn't be buying their Ozempic in such high quantities at astronomical prices (and for the rest of their lives).
My Neurologist suggested the Mediterranean diet as has good evidence overall, not specifically MS, I’d like to see your thoughts on that one.
I would love for you to make a video on ways to get help paying for treatment, including clinical trials that will take people over 55.
This is a good topic, but I don't think I would be able to provide an expert opinion on it.
The MS Society should help advocate. But I doubt they ever will.
Excellent video Dr. Beaber! I particularly liked the chart comparing the diets. I have been following a whole food plant based diet for 7 years and followed a mostly vegetarian diet for 10 years before that. I would say I most closely follow the OMS program. I also exercise regularly, try to get good sleep, practice mindfulness, and take supplements under the guidance of my neurologist and naturopathic doctors. All of these (and my DMT) are key to my health and well-being.
I have seen Mathew Embry is now recommending Phytase as a supplement and there seem to be some that are benefiting from it. I would love to see a video from you on it. Can it help with symptoms?
Thanks for the suggestion Vickie. I would have to look into it. Usually I would not make a video unless there is significant data.
@@DrBrandonBeaber thanks. I completely understand. I haven’t looked into the research on it yet either. I am just aware of the posts online about it.
I find his promotion of that supplement really odd. Especially, since he claims to be "symptom free" for the past 27+ years but now phytase is a "game changer" and giving him a "new life."
@@steinburgaler excellent point. It might be possible that he was pushing through his daily routine and didn’t realize that he could be feeling even better. I am not ready to jump on the phytase bandwagon yet. I will talk with my neurologist and naturopathic doctor soon.
@@EvenSoItIsWell It seems disingenuous at best. I hope you sort out what is best for you. Maybe a dietician would have better insight.
What diet would you suggest for MS and Crohn’s disease?
Well, I had gut issues for many years, before MS ever showed up, likely had candida overgrowth and disbiosis. However, I can't claim it in any way to be connected to MS, as I got ADHD and it pretty often is bundled with IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), which I have finally been diagnosed with officially, thus now I've been recommended low FODMAP diet and switched to it almost two months ago, it actually works, if only my spinal cord was not damaged by MS, perhaps I'd feel like my guts are finally OK by now, yet MS adds another layer of issues on top of those gut problems.
P.S. 5:24 - that little in 6 minutes?! Well, the distance I can walk did shrink from 5-6km in 2020 (3km actual walking and then limping back home), then 3,5km in 2021 to around 700m in some 20 minutes in late 2022, by now I can't walk without limping at all, and only on relatively smooth surfaces, but it is not THAT bad yet. Just got myself a folding cane, it really helps to get over carpets at the entrances of markets (now I really hate those) and other non-slippery or uneven surfaces.
Love the video. Thanks Dr. Beaber!!!! I don't follow any of these diets exactly. I try to eat whole foods, minimal processed foods, almost no candy/soda, and I exercise daily. When I don't do this I can tell my body is not doing as great as it could be. I feel this is the best route for me (and should be great for everyone to do too).
I'm trying to think of a video I would like to see... Nothing at the moment that you haven't already done. I will try and think of a good one and I'll post it on your next Wednesday video 🤘
Thanks for sharing. My experience is that even people who follow a specific diet often deviate from it somewhat but end up eating more whole foods and avoiding processed foods.
New to this and have stopped red meat as soon as I was diagnosed. Trying to stay away from bacon, and I hate fish. Whole foods consumption is %70 of what I eat now. I give myself a cheat day on game day.
It has been 7 months. Still trying to change towards a wahls diet. It is not easy.
I also walk 3-5 miles a day now. This is the video I've wanted. Thank you
Would you please do a video on steroids psychosis.
Best diet for me has been Gina Livy (not necessarily for weight loss and not an MS diet). EXCELLENT FOR MS. Nutrient dense food, feeding the metabolism. Allowed me to reverse my type 2 diabetes and even insulin resistance, reversed NAFLD, lost 50 pounds. No calorie counting or weighing. Wahls did start my Type 2D reversal BUT genetics matter and before one goes all in on any diet where sat fats are considered healthy, one should know their genetics :P ... I've tried most of the MS diets but The Livy Method did everything I needed it to do.
Eggs are essential for Iodine and Choline, aren’t they?
I’ve been doing a modified (and evolving) version of the OMS diet for 4 years. I’m sticking with it, but of course I can’t be certain I’m doing the right or best thing. I just keep learning and tweaking my diet as I go along using the best information I can find 🙂
Losing milk and cheese were difficult!!
And how long have you had the diagnosis? How's it progressing? Greetings from Argentina.
@@gldiego
Diagnosed 4 years ago but reckon I’ve had it 25 years.
Since starting the diet, I seem to be i improving 👍🙂
Hi Dr. I have been having ms symptoms for 35 days now, numb hands, feet, visual disturbances etc. Also my neck and spine pain hurts bad when trying to sleep, I don't have any back injuries that are causing this.
I had a mri of my brain done a week ago but did not have time for the spine, it was at the ER. The scan showed a few foci non specific white matter areas without specific orientation, it also said the contrast did not light up the my question for you is, I took 40mg of prednisone for 4 days prior to having the mri, would that affect the results of the mri?
Sorry but I can't comment on your specific situation.
I appreciate the quick response. Can you at least comment on not my situation but in general will prednisone affect contrast from doing its job on an mri?
I don’t think we know the basics well enough to suggest diets for most conditions tbh.
What about Dr. Brooke Goldner, Goodbye Autoimmune ?
I haven't read that particular book
I need to make changes. I watched this hoping one of the diets out did all the others. But it appears that they would make a little difference if you just pick one and stick to it.
The thing is that what works for one, does not work for all. I hope any one of us will find what activities can help most.
Is a carnivore diet healthy? I mean eliminating all fruits and vegetables you’re going to lose some potentially healthy principles isn’t it? If I was to eat just meat (especially red one), wouldn’t be more risky in a long term? I’ve been always told to eat less meat, red meat is not good, vegetables are healthy not animals..
I suffer MS from 26 years and now it’s developed to secondary progressive (I’m not on wheelchair but walking is really difficult for me). I’ve tried many diets so far and every one of them is based on large consumption of vegetables and seed. I have recently learned about carnivore diet, and that’s really difficult to accept.
I would know your takes on that 😊
I have talked to a number of people who have been helped tremendously eating a carnivore diet.
I think they all telling about great diets while they dont tell about the detox and gul healing parscite cleansing wich is must like pam bartha!
Curious if anyone has followed Medical Medium protocols? If so, any success?
Nope. He's not someone I'd ever follow or recommend. I have looked into him. He basically just borrows practices that have been promoted by New Age mystics long before he came along and started using it to make a buck. Plus, his hook is that he talks to demons. I'm sorry, but that's not a good thing.
Is the best bet diet the only one promoting itself (along with exercise) as a substitute for a DMT?
I don't think any of the diets are promoted as a _substitute_ for a DMT. They are a legit alternative for those who can't or don't want to go the DMT route, but many people do them while also using DMTs.
For years I've been asking everyone for her to show before and after pics of her MRI's. Nothing because it's a scam.
People with MS typically do not feel comfortable posting their MRI scans online, so I would not assume this.
That's absurd. If your selling a book for profit that's claims it helps MSers you have to prove it. Why in hell is it inappropriate to share that detail? She can't that's why because it's a scam.
Vegan
I avoid all dairy, all meats, wheat, gluten, soya, certain oils, barley, sugar and I still get flare ups. My main items I eat every day is fish and potatoes and they get pretty monotonous.
At some point you have to wonder if it's worth it. MS already takes away so much from life, might as well have some joy.
@@blackspider4 I had 4 attacks in my life causing nerve damage and it is horrible, I am very concerned if I loosen my diet another will happen and more lesions on my brain, I still think a precautionary approach is best but damn, I miss real food so bad sometimes.
I thought potato was one of the nightshade vegetables which is to be avoided?
@@rosieposie9564 Well this is the thing, there is so many contrasting opinions on what does and doesn't cause problems. I seem to be ok with potatoes and tomatoes where others have said they have had problems while others will eat soya or processed oils and be ok.
I still get the feeling that these diets and protocols are a shot in the dark and more a guideline.
@@Bhodisatvas I am surprised that you say that you seem to be ok with potatoes if you are still having flare-ups while eating mostly them and fish. I don't know what is best myself, I was just recently diagnosed and I am still lost and confused.
my body and MS acts up when i eat vegetables and certain fruit...meat and potatos 100% and i'll feel great
Everyone is different I suppose.