Us - The Triumph Of Themes Over Substance
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2019
- So it seems like Us was hailed as one of the horror masterpieces of our time, but is it really? Or is it just an overrated piece of trash that relies on 2019 social commentary to win critical praise? Let's find out.
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The internet didn’t kill Hollywood, Virtue Signalling did.
Dale Gribble Hollywood killed herself
@@tory6733 Are you assuming Hollywood's gender?
Preach!
What about the -elephant- feminism in the room?
@Blixem You should read the comments so you don't find yourself repeating other people.
*sees clone at the start of the video*
"she's gonna be the clone the whole time isn't she"
"yep"
Why is this so funny 😂😂😂😂😂
It doesn't even make sense. If she was the clone, why was the other one "tethered"?
*Arnold voice*: It turns out SHE'S the clone! And that the other one has to get back her stolen identity!"
@@dougsmith6262 "No, but I'M you!
"NO! You're MEEEE"
*unintelligible Arnold shrieking*
All day, every day, every time....
"Is this the only American family that doesn't own a gun?"
You know, as an American living in the south...you absolutely have a point.
Liberals dont believe in guns lol
Lol look at the house they are living in definitely worth a million or more considering it's in santa cruz and in a neighborhood like that generally crime is the least of their worries they probably never even felt the need to own any type of protection, also california gun laws...
They didn't want the movie to come across as being pro guns, that's why
@@strahinjagov Lol what kind of reasoning is that? Having guns in your movie or tv show doesn't automatically make you pro gun otherwise all of hollywood would be considered pro gun... Do you even think before you comment lol it's not hard to do...
Welcome to the West Coast, my Southern friend. Also the tethered could just as easily have been homeless drug addicts considering the setting.
I think Stephen King said it best: “a subtext only works if it is unobtrusive”.
The problem with too many message movies today is that they make the subtext the main text. And that is just a foundation of sand.
Stephen King is pretty woke himself, but he has his common sense moments
"Don't Look Up" (2021) directed by Adam Mkey
I don't like sand
@@ericcartman7361 He's an absolute idiot that basically said if you identify as republican then you must get all of your news from Fox.
@American Hero wait- you’re telling me all his stuff was stolen? Even “The CZcams Troll from Castle Rock”? I loved that story…
This movie accidentally proved the importance of owning guns.
Lmao imagine UNIRONICALLY supporting guns being in the hands of civilians
@Saj Ayyy haha look at this guy
@@B0Sajwah I plan to get a house, but first i need a gun. . Now i live in an apartment on the first floor and a lot of times wondering what would i do if someone would break in.
@@B0Sajwah You have the same opinion of the British government right before the revolutionary war.
Gun company stocks are soaring.
“The Tethered are trapped in an existence of endless emptiness, mindlessly replicating the actions of real people” Perhaps the film is an autobiographical work?
@NihilisticEntropy yikes
@NihilisticEntropy That is racist, why would you say that.
@@Koolaidviewer how is it racist?
@Something or Other he didn't reply to the original comment
@@Koolaidviewer i think some of the people here doesn't understand your sarcasm bud 😂
I love that Family Guy bit when Peter says,
"I don't think Jordan Peele really has the talent most people give him credit for."
Then it jump cuts to Peter on tv giving a public apology. 🤣
Golden joke LMAO
It was actually Chris and the entire thing was kinda different lol
Lol just because it doesn’t resonate with you doesn’t mean he’s not talented…
@K. G I agree, still a funny bit though.
@@K.G444 "Lol just because his films resonate with you on a personal level doesn't actually mean he's talented..."
secret hidden underground basement, occupied (guarded) only by white rabbits, either there's some sort of Monty Python joke there I'm missing or he's not even trying
He used to be a comedic actor. Possibly it is a joke on all of US.
It's an mk-ultra thing
They should have spent all their budget on a pyromancer doing random explosions everywhere and this movie would have been 100000x better
I haven't seen "Us". As soon as the Drinker said "clones" I said "there'll be a twist where the main character turns out to be the clone". xD
The 6th Day did it better.
Yeah, saw that one coming from miles away...
@@derrickbonsell that film is criminally underrated in the exploration of those themes.
I saw Jordan Peele and that was enough of a warning to stay far away. To me that guy's name is like viewing repellant.
I always think of Red Letter Media when I say or think, "What's the stupidest thing that could happen here." While watching a movie.
This film = I Am Very Smart
Haha, perfect description.
"This film = I Am Very Smart"
And I Made A Very Stupid Movie.
Any man who must say "I am smart" is not smart at all.
@@thehavoccompany-a3 I think I heard the tones of Tywin....
@ɮօʊռċɛ օʄʄ Except 'Us' didn't flop?
I literally used to imagine the concept of two mirror people when I was 10 cleaning my closet.
I am my other's... I was one of the few people I know who thought Get Out was kinda lame. I can't watch movies at all anymore and can't imagine even trying this.
I mean it is a good horror concept if put in the right hands.
@@akeithing1841 yeah you are in the minority there. get out is layered and original as all get out lol
@@lowlowseesee Thats because the majority of Americans are retarded and don't know what a good movie is anymore.
"Cool isn't anything but a cheap endorphin hit that comes and goes with no lasting impression"
Damn. Someone just slapped Mom at the dinner table and we're all pretending we didn't notice.
*Jar jar abrams* making ep 9: «nah it’ll be fine»
The leaks speak volumes. The plot is a huge pile of garbage :-(
Vajayjay Abrahams
@@steeldom1619 It seems there are actually many plots,all garbage.
This is the thing about JJ the Jet plane, he knows how to set up the mystery box but when you open it most of the time it's full of useless crap you spent too much on.
Rumours of reshoots three month before release.
"Nah, it will be fine."
Drinker, can you please do the review of Joker when it's released in the theaters?
Fahim Alvi yessssssss
FUCK OFF
@@wikwayer Triggered.
@@wikwayer , go and f#@k yourself.
That's like asking water if it will be wet. You know he is going to. Suprised he is waiting on IT though.
The problem with this movie was that it explained everything we didn’t want to have explained and didn’t explain anything we would’ve wanted to get explained.
The Amy Schumer “body horror” reference was Cheeky... Love it
If they had a shotgun in the house, it would be a pretty short movie 😁
Can't. Leftism.
If the movie was directed by Sean Hannity. The film would have ended in 10 minutes.
Amazing how no firearms are present in any “home invasion” film, isn’t it?
Frank Castle
It wouldn’t surprise me to watch a movie nowadays where the main antagonist is actually a gun
asdfmovie12
But Lefties like Jordan Peele are anti-2A.
Whenever a new Peele movie is advertised, the first thing to pop in my head is the "it's about racism" line from World's Greatest Dad.
Except Us isn't abt Racism , and he's only made 2 movies
@@averyy6681
You're right, maybe I should have said "whenever he opens his mouth" instead.
@@averyy6681 who could forget Lovecraft Country oh wait...I did!!
@@davidfl4 good for you
@@davidfl4 Such a trash show.
Amy Schummer is indeed the definition of body horror
It’s not a terrible idea for a horror movie. I can really see this concept working with the right creative execution
Me, 20 minutes before the ending: This movie ain't so bad, why do people hate this?!
Me, 20 minutes later: Oh my god. I had no idea someone could fit so far up their own ass.
Get Out had me feeling that way the entire time. I will never give that guy a chance again. His ripoff and cheap version of Chappelle's Show was bad enough, now we are subjected to his movies.
@@notsocrates9529 We turned 'Us' off about half way through.......it was slow, boring, confusing, stupid (lacking logic in just about everything they did!!) and not ONCE was it in the slightest bit scary!! And believe me, we DO give films that actually have deep, philosophical meanings a chance IF they allow you to think for yourselves as to what a film is trying to explore, other than the superficial surface of it's genre (Horror, History, Western, even Comedy!!). The Babadook as a perfect example!!
@@gerrodmendham461
I agree with everything you said. Films that make u think are great this was just self indulgent and insists upon itself.
@@hulkfan97 Donnie Darko is an even better example than The Babadook! Even straight up thrillers that subvert your expectations, with twists & turns throughout the film, like the Cohen brothers brilliant Blood Simple!!
@Marjorie Champion ?
Peele has said he comes up with ideas for movies while smoking weed. Then, tries to tie them together while sober. Gives you insight into his creative process.
Hemingway did the same with alcohol. The trouble being that alcohol makes you less inhibited and therefore more creative, while weed makes you dumb and sedated. I say that as a weed smoker who dislikes alcohol. But let's be real here. All these weed smoking "geniuses" are just idiots who don't know how idiotic they have become.
I hear Kamala Harris did the same thing with her political career.
That's disappointing. I get my ideas from dreams.
@@Dominian1Indica will do that.
@@elektrozil9728 I stopped smoking weed because of that fucking indica haze shit. Everyone always wants to sell some crystal looking sticky haze to make big bucks on the street and all I want is some mild sativa. I hope my stupid government will some day come to its senses and let us homegrow legally, instead of raiding ppl for a bit of weed.
I love the implication that if a movie "tackles political themes" and you don't like the movie you're evil 😃
of course
Why do i feel like these implications always come from the same ppl that say what u just said
I've always been afraid of being considered evil. But thanks to you, now I know it's safe.
As I listened to your review, one of the first things that made me realize that this movie wasn't going to work was, knowing as I do that it's based on the classic Twilight Zone episode "mirror image", much of the horror of that episode comes from not knowing or understanding where the doppelgangers come from, what their intentions are, and their nature.
Frankly, we only guess that they're evil based on their malefic smiles, it's never really made clear.
In "Us", the seeming necessity of the plot to be as twisty as possible causes the exposition about what The Tethered are, where they come from, etc. To be almost entirely explored by the end of the film.
By defining the terms of these characters, the horror is removed.
Thanks for watching this so I don't have too
He'll remember it so you don't have to.
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Moritz B. Don’t watch it. A massively overrated pretentious nonsensical cringefest. I mean the last part, the movie is really bad
It definitely has its flaws but I enjoyed it quite a bit for all the positive elements that The Drinker points out.
The ending isn't amazing but it took me on a nice little journey all the same.
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Jordan Peele in a nutshell: My political themes are LITERALLY the only thing I can get attention from, tell me I'm deep and smart
that can apply to Robert Eggers. Oh, wait, he's a white guy!!!
@@smotnick the director of midsommar is also a white guy and anyone with a brain know his movie suck and have hollow themes
Tell me I smart for ripping on smart hard working people who have actually accomplished something in their lives.
@@jeffblacklight104 it's a new subgenre: the pseudo-intellectual horror film: Heredity, Midsommar, Suspiria remake, VVitch, and a piece of excrement called The Lighthouse. NONE of those films come anywhere near to "The Lodge."
He's also funny
Us is literally the Pagan re-telling of a goddess Innana descending into the underworld. Jordan Peele got you guys thinking he came up with these themes himself when most of them are Sumerian.
I doubt Jordan Peele knows anything about Sumerian or Akkadian mythology.
How. Is the descent of Innana a class allegory where clones of real people staging a revolution where they kill their real counterparts? Or do the similarities just end at literally a girl going underground.. aight ig that’s enough to make him a plagiarist
If they had clones that mimic the originals, that'd function pretty well as a surveillance program, if you only cloned key people.
“Piece of body horrror” shows Amy Schumer, lol!
The best joke at the beginning jajajja
Damn it Brad. You stole my comment 😉
@@1000auh Fuck off.
@@postrock3374 Hello. Why so rude?
I couldn't stop laughing at that part 😂
Every last clone would be dead before the movie began.
it's impossible to survive on rabbit alone.
It's called "Protein poisoning" or fat starvation.
Canadian survivorman says to avoid that you have to eat most of the rabbit, lungs, liver etc. So basically an offal diet.
@@angermacfadden2702 Friggen love Les.
@@newguy3588 yeah dude he is legit.
@@angermacfadden2702 But it tastes awful. (Bad dumb tsss). In all seriousness, Scots and Scots Irish have eaten haggis and blood pudding like meals for a long time. Although most newer recipes only include sweet meat (the liver chopped fine). Historically, haggis included brain,lung, and tongue in addition to liver and kidney packed with oats into a sheep stomach as a casing. Nowadays, the risk of different infections, combined with the variety of supplementation in dietary choices, means no one wants to eat the "historical" variety, just like lutefisk.
A food I had only seen from afar until my Norwegian immigrant grandmother friend invited me to eat the stuff. I don't recommend it unless you plan on living full hippy with no lifestyle vlog or blog photography to satisfy.
What are you talking about? Organs are fucking delicious! The weird parts are where all the flavor and nutrition is
Wait...THIS is the movie that made CBS say “Yes guys! Dust off The Twilight Zone! We’ve found our new Rod Serling!”
Jordan Peele is NOT Rod Serling...
My favorite part of these reviews are when he tells us to go away now, so i just watch another review out of sheer spite.
Body horror..then amy schumer comes on screen...so perfect lol
I feel that the movie would make more sense if they had the clones snap out of their copying phases by the real people dying by accidents. Then we would cut to one in the dark tunnels being snapped out of their trance and realizing where they are and what's going on as if they were in the matrix the whole time. So maybe the clones start trying to snap the others but to no avail until the copies go to the surface and kill the real people so their copies woke up and gain independence and try to live the lives we always wanted.
I don't know, that's my two cents on how to improve it.
Shut up! Don’t make me think about a interesting conflict!
@@heroesunited2686 Yeah how dare they! I like shutting my brainz off to watch a movehdjhfkfbfxklsmdjzlsjd do isev!
I cant believe people actually get hired in Hollywood to write movies for actual money, then some random person on CZcams, (no offence), writes a better film in a bloody comment. Nice.
@@heroesunited2686 ha ha he he. You assholes who could never write a competent story yourselves love criticizing a filmmaker who had sophomore syndrome like everyone else and missed the mark on his hard worked piece of art, so you mock and berate someone who is literally just trying to create interesting films with a lens of social commentary. Of course get out was better, but this is a good misstep for Peele and I think he’s going to learn and do better
Also the is that the clones see that's it's not the originals fault but the governments.
"Hey Jordan, I know your movie has really deep themes and looks good and stuff, but how does most of the stuff in it actually happen and why?"
"Don't know!"
Sorry, accidentally hit the thumb down.
I think the biggest plot question is if the government did make this number of clones, how the hell did they continue to survive after the government stopped spending the money it would take to feed hundreds of millions of people
The thing that makes this movie really unbelievable is the idea that the beaches in Santa Cruz would not be overcrowded in the middle of summer.
As a man from Santa Cruz, I can attest to this fact.
Does the movie ever explain how the Tethered managed to eat all this time? Or cut their hair? Manage disease? I haven't seen it, but this review didn't answer those questions...
@@danm5911 They ate rabbit meat. Hence all the rabbits in their subterranean accommodations.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers wants it's plot back.
its
the episode of the twilight zone "mirror image" whats it's plot back! And Peele needs to find original ideas... cause Get Out was again nothing original.
Honestly, I got surprised by your analysis: Taking what people says about Jordan Peele, I thought the movie was bad because of some woke message shoved down the throats of the audience, that completely ruined the plot. Instead, it's just a case of "good premise, bad execution":
1- Too much stuff explained and exposed, making the main villains lose the terrifying aura they had, and ruining the "horror effect"
2- Characters being either too dumb or either too capable of fighting the main villains.
Maybe it's because I'm not american, or maybe it's because the Author really failed hard on selling the said "message" and "social commentary", but I didn't saw none of these two things. Even the government part, for me, sounded more like a failed attempt of making a cool, edgy concept, rather than some try of doing a political commentary about society.
You can watch Film Theory's video on the messages of the movie that can give you a better understand of the meta narrative. But the issue with this movie was that the writer focused too much on what the meta narrative was rather than what the narrative is.
I didn't see it either, I just thought it was a bad horror movie. But I'm not American. When I watch an horror movie, I'm not in the mood to see social commentary in it, I just want to be scared or weird out, and that movie failed to do so.
Exactly this. I am an American and picked up on zero political commentary. I think because the video creator can’t pronounce the main actors last name🙄 (like we get it you’re racist), or that a horror movie doesn’t have guns (most don’t as it’d quickly end the movie) that they believe it’s political. They want a movie with white actors with easy to pronounce names and tons of shooting guns in order to believe that this shitty movie is not political.
I don’t recall these people bitching about there being no guns in almost every horror movie created by white people starring white people where the only black characters are the ones killed first.
When I watched the movie, I felt genuinely entertained, the characters were interesting and the plot was engaging but after it ended I thought it didn’t make a lot of sense and I have mostly forgotten about it since. Spot on review.
when the director said that he would never cast a white lead, it told me everything i needed to know about this trash. no thank you.
Hypocrite SJWs denounce racism... Unless it's against whites. Then it's perfectly fine. Don't bother pointing that out though, or you'll get called a racist.
Isn't his own mother white?
@@savioblanc mommy issues?
@@denkerbosu3551 maybe. And it was the most clichéd upbringing - he was a biracial kid raised by a single white momma.
Maybe that's why whitey bad or something...
@@SFforlife what's with the weird victim complex? I've never met a sjw outside of Twitter. This is a bad movie that will tank on its own demerits... Stop with the constant identity politics and grievance it's so tedious
"Is this the only family in America who doesn't own a gun?"
Yes.
Not at all they just all live in high crime major cities with gun control laws. Like Chicago
Oohrah! 😂
@@JohnGalt916 that was the most retarded dicision
theres tons of families that dont lol
dont let your own reality distort what others dont want to own. just giving a new pov
@@Ciscohm 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
3:34 "The Tethered are trapped in an existence of endless emptiness, mindlessly replicating the actions of real people, but having no real understanding of who they are or what they're doing..."
So, they're basically just regular people, then?
Its a shame that films like these are classed as good. I shudder to think in 10 years time, the catalogue of films we have . Im just collecting all the old films and have just given up on modern cinema
Well if it makes u happier with political views always becoming more and more left this will make likely even be more and more popular opinion
You need to watch more modern films
modern cinema is still great ....but just like current hip hop you have to look deep to find the great innovative stuff
@@lowlowseesee you're probably right. Im currently looking into old Japanese horror flicks and having a blast doing so :D
Good movies are rare in general, most old movies are also schlock, but there’s plenty of great modern movies: gone girl, moonlight, black swan, whiplash, 12 years a slave, grand budapest hotel etc..
"I expected this was going to be a good movie."
"See, we subverted your expectations."
If they didn't explain where the clones came from, then it would've been so much better, a lot better than some scientific experiment (which straight up made me laugh).
I haven’t seen this movie, but i almost turned this review off at first because the initial description of the plot seemed intriguing and worth a look. Now that I know the twist, I’ll pass. So much potential with that premise.
@@abehambino I know, right?
If it wasn't explained then this movie would just be a mediocre horror movie that isn't scary. They should've explained it subtlety, rather than just a 10 minute exposition scene.
Dopplegangers wouldve been a way better explanation.
VOKZEL true. Like dropping hints and subtle connections here and there (like Jacob’s Ladder, for example), so the audience can draw their own conclusions.
As often happens with modern horror, trying to explain things logically is where everything falls apart. There's a reason some of the best horror relies on ambiguity and mystery to keep the audience's suspension of disbelief intact. Most of the time it just doesn't make any sense when it's all laid out.
God damn, being the hammer and hitting that nail perfectly. I truly think it was one of those movies where the acting was so spot on that everyone could walk away with a glowing review before the "wait a minute" set in.
Let me get this straight...
So when the leading lady was young, she found a phantom menace.
Then as an adult, she experienced an attack of clones.
Then there was some business about revenge.
It's like poetry.
*Laughs in unlimited powah*
It rhymes.
If ever there is a sequel they'll lead you to believe that they have found a new hope.
Before actually showing that the empire of the clones strikes back
to end on the Return of the Family
Char Aznable mace Windu could’ve used some of that during that fight.
It's about family that's what so powerful about it
Why would her kids also be cloned if the project is 30 years old?
I would recommend actually watching this movie, and please come back and tell me what you think of it and put it up against what this reviewer missed and didn't understand. I don't think the reviewer watched it, honestly I don't think that he watched this this, it's one of the better movies out there. The problems he is citing aren't actually in the movie or something unresolved.
@@Starry2000 Like what? Drunk guy made claims, so quote them and provide instances to refute them. Which problems that he's citing aren't in the movie?
The “clone” had kids
@@Theyungcity23
Women have thousands of different eggs and men produce billions of different sperm in their lives.
How in the hell would the offspring have the exact same set of genes?
Meiosis isn't mitosis.
@@vendomnu Not saying it makes sense
My Generation Z coworker, can't fathom how much I was not impressed with this movie. Jordan Peele is one for three in cinematic endeavors with me now. Also, Event Horizon is a LEGITIMATE horror movie!
I am convinced all of the bad movies and shows have effected the younger generation, because they are being taught to accept garbage stories because they aren’t used to seeing movies with a solid plot. We can pick out plot holes and bad story telling immediately.
I came back here to clear my eyes after accidentally watching a video simping this movie.
Who was it
this is a movie that tries way too hard to be deep and ended up being obvious and annoying
"The clones kill the originals with scissors, because they are puppets cutting their restraint!" GET IT?!"
Perhaps it was all that was required to shoehorn the message into people's minds. And it usually is.
Denker Bosu y’all nitpick everything wtf
@@recklessprofits maybe because nothings makes sense?
@@recklessprofits is it cause your black that you defend this shitshow of a movie? lol
Its easier to sell a theme than write something with substance. Jordan Peele is trying to EGOT
Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony
@King of Knights It means he's trying to get an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony
You mean Eosinophil Granule Ontogeny Transcript? I didn’t know Peele was a molecular biologist. Guess you can make more in Hollywood.
McCellen lol damn google dictionary
@Bruce Wayne Yeah, fuck understanding and tolerating different people! We should hate and fear outsiders like our ancestors did!
8:24 & 9:40 Oh, shirt! I just watched a Close Enough episode that also had The Triumph of Themes Over Substance with a shocking twist just to mess with us. In Cyber Matrix, Alex Dorpenberger was mad about phones keeping people from contacting each other, until he loses his old phone, buys a new phone, and sees the appeal behind phones that give you all the information on the internet. Kira, his new phone, tries to download him into the internet forever. Then Josh comes in to help Alex, and they stop the phone from taking his consciousness away from his body forever by telling the calculator to find the 10 trillionth digit of pi and multiply it by 2. Everyone else used explosives to put the boulder on a cell phone tower to save Alex and Josh, but then Josh glitches again, and then out of nowhere, it was a super mega twist in which Kira had already enslaved them all and put them in Kira pods before the beginning of this plot, and we have no answer to it. It makes just as much sense as "Adelaide was the clone all along." Maybe even less. June 5, 2021, 3:00am
Ok this seems epic
The 'Hands Across America' thing seemed pretty cool, like a bastardization of what it originally stood for, what with the murderous clones lining up after freshly murdering their overworld counterpart.
I watched the entire movie thinking they were parallel universe and the girl got pulled through a mirror
That wouldve been a way better premise than the whole "clone experiment" route
Basically the star trek evil universe.
@@greenergrass4060 sounds kinda cliche tho , and kinda would need more explanation.
@Back from the Deadpool nice, but they also never explained how and where they came from only a theory that went over everyone's head
@Back from the Deadpool I liked it...
This man’s voice is addictive.
He didn't always sound like this
Effect of good scotch.
I find it obnoxious
It is derived from addiction so there you go - it's a kind of social alcoholism you are experiencing.
@ɮօʊռċɛ օʄʄ Chapter 1: Go a-whey neuww!!
@theone Andonly Wouldn't move to Scotland if I was you, most likely then ...
I actually watched this movie, probably during the Pandemic, and totally forgot about it until running across this video, which explained why. Thanks, Drinker.
Speaking of movies about clones, at least The Island had a comprehensive story. Clones created to be spare parts for millionaires and billionaires that might become injured or need an organ or 2 to be replaced. That sure explains the funding for how it was possible, the motives, the reasons for the story, and so on. Honestly a movie I recommend to anyone that hasn't seen it. Frankly it's one of Michael Bay's best.
Really sir an Amy Schumer clip, children could be watching, have some decency.
We're not animals!
My vagina
Why would children be watching a review of a movie that is not made for children? If they do, go take it up with their shitty parents and not this guy.
@@theirishbob you really can't see an obvious joke don't you?
I heaved up my breakfast when I saw that clip. There should have been a trigger warning.
Event Horizon...now that's a film.
Maybe. But is it a movie?
@@jonathanstewart351 perhaps. But is it a feature?
...hmmm...Event Horizon...well...its a favorite feature film of mine...been a long time though...I should rewatch it...
Awesome film. Dont know why it's so hated.
@@Hopium500 because it triggers sensative snowflakes that think blood is racist? It triggers flat earthers because they think space isn't real? It triggers SJWs because a female didn't have the lead role? Idk...I could venture a guess on an actual reason but I'd probably be wrong. One the things Event Horizon showcased, at the time was the ability to have a modern horror scifi flick of old with the terror, blood and sheer gore that had started to be lost in favor of newer movies just spraying blood around with no point of origin or reference to the mutilation that occurred. Let alone the plot basis as to why it happened...add in the illustration of what happened...made for an incredible movie.
Sorry, forgot to add that alot of people had grown away from that and to see it in cinema may have been unsettling...just fyi, notice we haven't had any major combat movies to the depth of what the intro of saving private ryan was like or even close to what either band of brothers showcased. Hack saw ridge tried...a fair movie but the level of illustration to showcase the results of combat brutality and injury failed pretty bad and he was medic. Last movie I saw with anything of an effort good enough was the landmine scene in tropic thunder...
Wait “Red” didn’t just break free of her programming… because they mimic their counterparts actions when the little girl went into the funhouse “Red” also went in, then she dragged the real girl downstairs and switched places. So the whole time the one we thought was the original (with the family leading a normal life) was actually a clone, and it’s the original girl that wants her life back so she taught the others in the bunker to rise up.
Or did I not get the movie?
This movies entire concept can immediately make zero sense if the audience asks literally 2 questions. What happens if the tethered have counterparts that live on military bases. And what about the fact that the US has the highest number of armed civilians on the entire planet? The tethered are shown to only have scissors as a consistent weapon, and military bases are constantly being guarded around the clock by men armed with M4s who are trained on exactly what to do if they are attacked. The event shown in the movie who have immediately been noticed by the US military, who would have immediately responded to this and likely declared marshal law. The movie portrays the hands across America event that the tethered pulled as being mostly successful, when in reality the tethered would have been successful at best 50% of the time. Youre not gonna win a fight against someone armed with a gun when all you have is a pair of scissors and wouldnt be able to break into most peoples homes without making a very loud noise.
I had to look up the Rotten Tomatoes for Us after this. Interesting numbers that prove his point.
Critics = 92% liked
Audience = 61%
check this one out www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mohawk_2018
That means nothing, have you see the reviews for Star Wars and Terminator? Make consistent points mahn
excellently observed 👌
good point bro 👌😮😐😣
@@africanhistory Yes the reviews for the latest Star Wars is a perfect example. The Left rigged it even though most people hated it. I guess you are a Mainstream news watcher as they don't talk about it, But look up Star Wars 86% rotten Tomato score here on youtube and behold the Scam.
"The sickening disgust of some shocking piece of body horror" - shows Amy Schumer.
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i mean he's not wrong.
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Can't argue with that one.
@Char Aznable Why would anyone pay money to see her corpse?
@Char Aznable It would still feel like giving money to see her make vagina jokes.
Critics once judged movies by how well the movie delivered on its premise, not whether they agreed with the premise or not.
Most do just not critical drinker cuz he’s not a good critic. He constantly misses important plot points and automatically hates a movie just cuz he disagrees with the message
I liked the premise, reminds me of when movies had cool, "out there" ideas like in the 80s.
This is why I prefer Key over Peele.
Key?
Nexus E-H 2 yes
@@chrismarple Oh this shit again.
@@cobaltroguex Keegan-Michael Key. They made a show together.
He’s great on who’s line
I want a t-shirt that says, "Nah. It'll be fine."
Silver Scorpio I’d like one that says “fuck of now”
I know right.. I want one too.. He Drinker man... Set up an online store mate..
Have "Go away now" on the back.
@Tayce Sells I'd buy one, this is an awesome channel!
Plans are in motion.
Outstanding review!
You provide an excellent celebration of the film's and cast's positive elements whilst not holding back on your opinion of the failures.
I often wonder if these "themes" in films always exist, or if it's just other movie critics trying to be clever and apeing each other, like a social media echo chamber.
You are invariably correct, Mr McDrinker, in your reviews.
I've seen many films, which, whilst I've enjoyed them, they've left me feeling that they were rushed, unfinished. That they were good ideas that could be developed into a good film.... Making me think that movie studios truly don't care about the quality of the film. They just want to churn out movies, regardless...
After seeing Filmento's piss poor appemt to cover the film as a failue, only to subvert exptaions and praise it without pointing out its dumb flaws (the plot twist at the end especially).
The fact your vid exist is an honest to God breath of freash air.
Thank You.
I actually enjoyed the first 70% of the film or so - the set-up was well done and left me wondering what was coming around the bend next: then the awful reveal came about - that some ten-year-old girl pulled off a logistical feat that even the likes of Hannibal Barca and Erwin Rommel couldn’t have pulled off in the same situation!
Seriously, these “tethered” (which are essentially Demi-human semi-zombies) had no functioning society *at all* and yet this kid was able to organize them en mass towards a singular purpose while seeing to it that they were properly equipped for the task: this is impossible - it would take her many long years just to establish anything that resembles a functional society at all and I doubt that her fledgling society would be in any condition for such an operation (assuming that she had any degree of success in organizing the semi-zombies at all...).
That reveal destroyed my suspension of disbelief and I call into question Peele’s writing credentials as a result of this...
This movie reminds me of mixture of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" from the 1956 or George Romeros "Night of the living dead" from 1968 but with no message.
It did take her long years, she was 30/40 when she finally enacted her plan.
Souljastation 5 Even with several decades, she would not have been able to execute this plan - the Demi-human semi-zombies have limited capacity for communication, no social structure of any kind in place and no knowledge of the outside world other than their experiences through other people’s thoughts! Just setting up a basic social structure for a group this large would have taken a lifetime!
@@FrankCastle-tq9bz In fact the other severed just kill people, make guttural sounds, and the only complex thing they can do is "hands across America".
This is no complex social structure.
Souljastation 5 That is precisely what I am saying - these Demi-human semi-zombies don’t have a functioning society and thus couldn’t execute this plan!
What I'm curious about is how there was clones of even the kids if the experiment was closed down before they were born.
The clones were mimicking what was going on overground in ... great detail...
@@PeterPan-dz7mu 😏
@@PeterPan-dz7mu Man why did the Government stop when apparently they can also control which sperm will go into the egg
@@Predator20357 Why worry about such a minor detail if you throw a fiction on the big screen that tries to tell you underground copies have a similar chance of survival on rabbits alone and can find and follow their overground counterparts without any transportation. Also fracking. Also ground water.
@@PeterPan-dz7mu True, you got me there
Like it’s already babies first clone movie with how it explain what clones do and why but not why the Government didn’t just kill them all
"That's all I can be arsed talking about today. Go away now!". Pure poetry 🤣
Even though Drinker makes some excellent points, my biggest reason for revisiting this video is the “get fucked” and “fuck off!” deliveries. There’s something satisfying and cathartic in hearing him say that
"Progressive" is one of the most abused words.
To be honest, a lot of the English lexicon has lost meaning in the last decade
@@TheAlienGangster Absolutely the words racist, sexist, fascist, rape/sexual assault, misogyny and any kind of "phobe" are thrown around so much now it's more of a badge of honor than an insult when someone calls you one of these things. It's basically a leftist who can't defend their viewpoint admitting defeat!
@@GeneralG1810 Bro as a leftest trust me we hate liberals to. They're some of the most insufferable people ever so please you can hate us but don't hate us for what the liberals do because I don't give a shit about whatever the SJW cancel culture doing I just want socialism and the ability to smoke week.
@@spacemarine3482 Yeah because socialism has be so fucking successful in the past!
I agree weed should be legal but if you believe that socialism bullshit then you're an imbecile!
It's easy to be a socialist in a western country, here's a thought if you want more out of life stop smoking weed and go out and EARN it!
@@GeneralG1810 I'm not going to fight you on whether socialism is good or not it wasn't my point my opinion isn't going to change yours. The point of my comment was to tell you that socialist and liberals aren't the same so don't confuse the two.
We dont only elevate sub standard movies to ridiculous heights but people as well
@blackkey1976
But he's bi-racial & is married to a white woman,r u sure u don't mean Spike Lee 😕?
What else ya got?!!!
@blackkey1976
Not even alittle bit,if i give u that impression i SWEAR that wasn't my intention. Hell,maybe u know something i don't.
@@samuelmiller4964 the idea being that he's given undeserved accolades for average to decent product, as hollyweird is apt to do these days, is the point, no? 'get out' was actually nominated for best picture. uhm... huh? it was an okay movie, but faaaaaar from warranting that level of acclaim. yeah, he may be half white, although you wouldn't know it to look at him, but would he be drowning in an embarrassment of praise were he white and republican? rather doubtful, eh?
Jordan Peele is just taking advantage of his situation. He is targeting a specific demographic, the "woke". Hollywood wants to not appear racist so they elevate him, and viewers want to not appear racist so they rant and rave over his mediocre work.
@@ryanbarker5217
Oh,i'm with you there,trust me i'm still scratching my head on the whole "get out!" thing,i was addressing him being racsist and yes i believe white male republcans r under the gun due to the misdeeds of other WMRs,u know "sins of the father" and all. But yeah,he's over rated A.F.!!!
2 years later this came up in my feed, and in the first 2 minutes I was like, "this is the perfect description of why I hate the movie NOPE." Then I realized it's the same director. Makes sense now
Us: Pushing “THE MESSAGE” before Drinker made it a thing.
jordan Peele, the new M. Night Shyamalan
Spot on.
At least M. Night actually makes some good films. Jordan Peele just makes films that pander to the media.
Peele is way worse
Except that M. Night Shamalamadingdong has made at least one genuinely brilliant movie. Peele has not.
M. Night Shyamalan at least made 3 good movies.
When the woman, in the most cliche "scary" voice, says "We..are...Americans", I cringed so hard that I checked out of the rest of the movie.
It felt like he wrote that thinking "This is so clever", but like most of his writing, it's trying to be smarter than it actually is.
thisguydan what’s supposed to be clever about it. Its humorous because shes ignoring the actual question. I don’t think it’s trying to be smart.
@@Theyungcity23 She's is actually answering the question with "We are Americans". The movie is a metaphor. Not coincidentally, it's called Us...U.S. However, subtlety goes a long way in subtext. He seems afraid everyone will miss how "brilliant" and deep the metaphors are, so he makes sure to spell it out in his movies. "We are Americans" was something that everyone was supposed to sit back and be floored by how deep it is.
There's a reason filmmakers like Kubrick are regarded as the greatest and their films discussed for decades. The cleverness is in the nuance, subtlety, and ambiguity that gets people wanting to discuss rather than be told. Peele tries hard to appear to be brilliant with subtext, yet the writing makes it very obvious, blunt, and forced. That's why he isn't as clever as he tries to appear to be.
@@thisguydan she wasn't asking Red what country she is from. The actual answer is that they are clones with the goal of killing them or the Tethered. It's a joke. I don't see that as being blunt. It's a joke.
@@Theyungcity23 The movie is not actually about clones or tethered or anything like that. The movie is entirely a metaphor. Peele did not write that as a joke. He wrote it to be deep so people would see the metaphor. If it seemed like a joke when he was being serious, then that's just how cringe it was.
@@thisguydan I'm not talking about what the movie is about. I'm just saying that that line was a joke.
The critical Drinker always feeds the Mogwai after midnight.
"Bachanalian Masterpiece"...I think I understand what's missing, the reverence of story telling as a tradition, not just a pay check.
I find your channel name fitting for the content you make, Bachanalia and the Dionysus festival were considered religious events with plays. The Satyrs are sorely needed nowadays.
"having deep themes and social commentary in your films don't mean shit if your screen play makes no sens" amen !
And, to make things worse, Jordan Peele is going to do a remake of Candyman, which was a good horror movie based on a Clive Barker's story .. It will be all this "black people good White people bad thing" again
Jordan Peele is the worst producer in history at this point hes not contributing to the culture at all
Do what I do. Vote with your wallet.
See it's funny I do like Jordan Peele's work. I won't lie it's mostly nostalgia cause he was funny on MadTv back in the day. I just learned he's doing Candyman remake and I got happy. But then I just realized you're right it's gonna be the same ol shtick. I know I was pretty unhappy when he said he wouldn't have a white star.
So at the end the jerky quirky otherworldly Red was really the actual human being for some reason acting like the Inhuman science experiment????
I really appreciate that you see the plot holes in this film in contrast to the unconditional praise that 'film critics' have showered all over it. I, too, wondered about some of the nonsensical elements permeating the entire film as well as appropriating the acting prowess of the cast members.
When he said he would never hire a white lead I just said I will never put my money toward your films. My money is too white.
But something something "300 years of racism!"
Feel guilty!
@@denkerbosu3551 let's cure racism by being racist!!! or, how to learn to laugh at stupidity and improve your life overnight!
I don't really care about that, I'm not a whiney bitch that needs to feel proud of my race and for the same reason I can not feel offended by anything like this. If Peele prefers it that way, he can go ahead. It's his film right? Many white directors, if answering honestly, would not hire black leads. I don't care about that either.
Denker Bosu I’m not racist moron.
I support actors and actresses that are black. He is the one that has a race issue. And I don’t support someone like that. I wouldn’t support a white producer who said he or she would never use anything other than white people.
@@TheJohnnystockman that was sarcasm, wooooooosh
Peele is a lot like Shamalan. He had one ground breaking hit (debatable) as his first movie, he got a massive ego, and now all his movies are the same crap that people will get tired of quickly
at least he hasn't cast himself as Jesus (yet)
@Cole YoungGood: The sixth sense, Unbreakable, Split, debatable: Signs, The Village, The Visit, Glass Bad: Lady in the water, The happening, Last airbender, After Earth. He's not overall a bad director , just had some terrible movies.
Blackkklansman ? Or Get out? Both were amazing , and I also think Us is too , but my opinion.
@@billiesavacado3311 I believe he was an executive producer on Blakkklansman but he wasn’t a writer or director.
@@kevinkongtorres1654 you're right , 'Blackkklansman' was said to be a Peele movie , guess not lol . My mistake
0:28 - Angela Bassett in "Black Panther" - she's one month older than I am (two weeks older than Michael Jackson would have been) - and she looks FABULOUS...
The one thing that really stood out to me about the movie (to its credit) was the subtle hinting at the misery of the relationship between the doppelgänger husband and wife. Since they had no will of their own, when the real Adelaide and her husband conceived children, the doppelgängers must’ve been forced to commit the same act. In a sense, that made both doppelgängers into unwilling rapists, and I could see real sorrow in the fake husband’s face over what he’d done. That’s a twisted concept that I think gave the clones real, genuine motivation to kill their counterparts, and it left an impression on me and the people I watched Us with
When Michael Jackson was asked why he wore only one glove he responded...
"Because it's cooler."
Dino Saurio That’s actually a perfect analogy for this movie
ECKohns No. His entire body was effected by Vitiligo. In some instances it’s just hands/feet. There is audio evidence of MJ stating that he wore one glove to get people, mainly media. To question why he was wearing only one glove. His whole look and vibe was conjured up by him to get as much media attention as possible. And it worked to a T
And here I always thought it was because the kids found the sequins too scratchy... 😁
You know that modern art museum that showcased dirty toilets?
The people that loved it were the same ones that loved this film.
At least dirty toilets don’t need to mean anything
Hey, tell my wife that I shouldn't clean up all the "art" I made in the bathroom
As I work through the backlog of your videos, having recently subscribed, this is easily the most aggressive `Go away now` so far.
One of the stupidest parts of this film was when they disparaged the dad for wanting to hunker down in the house and set Home Alone style traps for the Tethered. I mean, that seemed like the perfectly logical thing to do. Fortify the zone they're familiar with, which they already know contains food, resources, electricity, and water - especially considering the dad is injured and should spend some time recovering. As opposed to venturing out into the wider world, with unknown numbers of threats... which, of course, is exactly what they ended up doing.
And now he’s doing the Candyman reboot, I’m sure we can guess why he chose to do that movie
Lol I can see him shooting his arm straight to the ceiling
"MEMEMEMMEM!!!! PICK ME TWACHEPLZPLZPLZPLZPICKMEMEMEMME!!!! IM BLACK TEACHER!!! THAT MEANS I GET TO DO CANDYMAN RIGHT?!?!?! RIGHTRIGHTRIGHT?!?!?!?..........YYYYYEEESSSS!!!!! FUCK YEAH I GET TO DO CANDYMAN!!! Did.... did you guy's know candyman is black? Pretty cool huh.....yeah
...whoo"
And everyone else is just staring like "....ooook...." because.... I mean who the fuck is hungry for candy man? it'll flop.
I bet he actually gets some decently cool/tripping visual shots for the trailer, and even areas it appear to have a fresh new take, but it won't. It'll still just fall into an odd ripoff of some hybrid of two other movies he combines with it(because that's all he does)
I think it’s because he was played by a black guy, but I could be totally wrong, as I am indeed a handsome strong white male.
"Get Out" and "Us" are two prime examples of what happens to a movie when a director/writer/producer *doesn't* ask the question:
"Is this a really stupid idea?"
Also when editors become yes men, and dont speak up.
And they never ask about the droid attack on the Wookiees.
kaleel clark being in a mixed relationship, I think it is really a stupid idea.
Get out was great
@@willsteele793 I bet you do. Racists love to take reasonable conversations like to try and fit in.
"Is this the only family in America that doesnt own a gun?" Sadly, no. The world would be a better place if it was.
That "mother of God" and "what the fuck" insert, was perfect!!! And the super troopers "OH" 😂🤣😂