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@The Critical Drinker Please review the cult classic 'Withnail & I' (1987) - one of the best drinking films of all time (and it's much, much more than that).
it's like the producers looked at each other and said "female character turns into a hunk of wood" and they all snap their fingers at the same time and say "Tessa Thompson"
I actually was into this movie. It has a an interesting sci-fi premise, and a good atmosphere. It leaves a lot of questions, but that's mostly intentional and I don't have a problem with it.
After seeing the !movie! Multiple times and read the book once (don't recommend the book) I can tell you this was one of the best cosmic horror !movies I've ever seen, and those are really hard to nail.
i fucking loved it, and still love it. The story was weird, and i liked that, i enjoyed the ambiguity of the ending, and i especially loved the chilling alien soundtrack. gives me the same feeling as an air raid siren. I love it more as an art piece than a movie, i guess? Either way, I love it.
Yes, driven by madness, fear, loneliness and having a terrified mind thrown in it. It wasn't evil in intent, it was trying to find escape, making it that much more terrifying
Not gonna lie, I loved the monster with the human voice. I think it's a pretty cool concept, a creature that kills an animal, copies its last calls for help and uses it to lure others who want to help.
Kinda like an SCP I’ve read about. The thing that bothers me is that the different strange mutations of all the organisms seem too random and arbitrary. It’s like it the writing doesn’t really expect more from its audience. That some cool ideas, visuals, and music is enough and the writing doesn’t have to do much at all to satisfy the viewer. Everything else will pick up the slack.
I always understood the effect of the shimmer to be pretty much the effect of something explorers would find in outer space. Something that follows rules we can't even grasp, but that triggers particular behaviors in people due to our own animalistic nature. Basically, cosmic horror. It worked great in that regard.
Yep, it's really difficult to think of life outside the carbon based lifeforms we are and know, but this movie seemed to do it really well. it was completely unfathomable
I love the drinker’s videos and normally find his assessment to be right on the money. This is a rare instance where I feel he missed the mark. Admittedly my viewpoint is skewed as well since I have the benefit of viewing this as a long time fan of the Weird fiction genre. So many elements of the book and movie draw direct comparisons to Lovecraft’s Weird fiction masterpiece, “The Color Out Of Space.” In many ways this movie mimics the writing style of Weird fiction and Lovecraft and his contemporaries. For instance The Drinker notes a, “paper thin plot.” In a lot of weird fiction the plot is less important than the concepts and the atmosphere. So in a way he is correct but, that works for what they are trying to accomplish. Also it seems he may have missed the cancer analogy that the shimmer is causing everything it touches to mutate and gain characteristics of other things touched by the shimmer. For instance the gator and shark since the shimmer lands near the ocean but has extended onto the land. The movie also does not spoil itself as the Natalie Portman that leaves is not the one that entered as the shimmer has, “infected.” her as it does to everything that enters. Also drinker is right on the money with the self destruction motif at the end that was the reading I had as well; although I wouldn’t say it was a reach. The biggest issue I think is a misunderstanding of what the movie is trying to capture; which in my opinion is an encounter with something that is truly alien in every way. What if alien life isn’t just an entity what if it takes the form of a place? Of course this is my own reading of the movie and it is colored by my prior knowledge but, I agree that should not be needed to enjoy a good movie. But, for a Weird fiction fan; seeing a movie with this level of polish and craftsmanship being unafraid to enter into the truly ambiguous territory of Weird fiction was awesome.
The difficulty in understanding what they are trying to accomplish may be why so few Lovecraftian horror films are commercially successful. However, it does seem a bit backwards to me that Drinker loved “Event Horizon” but didn’t like this.
I'm pleasantly surprised by how many comments defending this movie there are. Annihilation is a story about relationships wrapped within a veil of cosmic horror. It's definitely not a mainstream genre, and the source material would be so difficult to adapt to film that I even still question the wisdom of that decision. The movie was weird. It left some of the most important aspects of the main character's personal narrative out. It explained even less than the book did and gave few answers. Most people find that very unsatisfying, and that's valid. I'm in the niche who enjoy that kind of stuff, and so I thought it was a fairly solid adaptation until the last few minutes when I felt it unravelled. I normally can see Drinker's PoV even if I don't agree with his takes, but this is the first review of his that I didn't bother to finish because he seems so hostile and dismissive towards attempts to interpret the themes as being faux-intellectual.
That, the fungus-like skeleton growth, the human-shaped bushes when they first walk into the abandoned town were all beautiful and creepy. Too bad the rest was boring as hell.
That was about the only scene that was cool imo, having watched Sci-Fi for about 30 years this movie was just a big MEH for me, didn't even remember it until Drinker posted this review ^_^
Your review gave me low expectations and honestly I loved it. It just takes you on this trippy ride and doesn't spoon-feed you answers. It's creepy, visually interesting and is better than what you see in Netflix and Amazon nowadays. No politics, misandry or other nonsense you see in a lot of modern movies.
I mean, it doesn't really have time for politics or misandry - there are no men present, and the women won't shut up for five minutes. If I were you, I'd go and watch Contact if you haven't already - a fantastic and genuinely intelligent film that also doesn't explain too much, but actually has more to say - or perhaps even delve into the inspiration for this story, Stalker (based in turn on "Roadside Picnic") - the film that is, not the game... although if you're a gamer, definitely play Stalker (would recommend the Gamma mod pack).
@@clanwaddell5628 If you never saw event Horizon you should also give it à try. But you probably already saw it. It's my favourite sci-fi/horror movie. It's quite unsettling.
I'm glad you mentioned the gender thing. When they mentioned they were sending in an all-female team, I thought, "Oh brother, here we go," but they didn't make it into a huge thing and I appreciated that.
Kinda cringe that he said they made rational, logical decisions and were all Experts at their Fields when this is clearly not the case; to a laughable degree. Them being send in there and what they're doing in there is kinda the only thing one can really analyse about this s-it-movie, so people did: And the result is that its idiotic. All of it. Mainly their 'strategic decisions' that Drinker just complimented.
@@loturzelrestaurant Yeah, but at that point they'd seen dozens of teams of highly trained soldiers go into 'the shitter' and never come back. Going in is basically a suicide mission and they know it. So the only kinds of people who would go in are volunteers who basically don't give a fuck about self-preservation on a deep level and are basically marching off to their death to satisfy some deep burning curiosity. They're not really being sent in so much as they're being allowed to go in. In fact it's pretty much established in the beginning that they're all depressed as fuck and we learn throughout the movie that Natalie Portperson is also driven by a heavy dose of guilt as well. Of course once they meet the alligator it starts to bring up their fight or flight instincts, snapping them back to reality a little bit. As the movie progresses from there, it becomes apparent that they really didn't have their minds in the right place from the get-go. Even if they're moderately competent (albeit not so much as soldiers and survivalists) they clearly weren't mentally prepared for a real fight. Like a suicidal person looking down from the rooftop and suddenly remembering their fear of heights. Not to mention, 'the shitter' is actively messing with their heads as well, messing with their sense of time, and mixing up their DNA, form and even consciousness with the plants and animals around them. In fact, the doppleganger that we see at the end is not actually making a copy of Natalie Portperson at all. It's actively mixing the both of them together until they're both equal parts. She doesn't remember shit because both she and the doppleganger were scrambled 50/50. Same thing for her husband. It's kind of an interesting take on "what if a life form found another way to combine DNA and multiply without sexual reproduction?" except that the only ones to make real contact with it were depressed, suicidal people and weird animals.
@@Krooksbane I did see it, mate. I realized before any CZcamsr made a video about it, that it's hilariously bad. Why? Well, simple: I'm not a simpleton, who doesnt realize 10000 Plot Holes. I just do.
I like how you couldn't even give anything against the bear monster. Great shit on that one. Really though, I heard nothing of this movie until it was playing, at which point I thought, "Hey, this is the Color out of Space!" And from then on, I was just concerned with how it's a pretty sweet take on a Lovecraft story, and really nails the cosmic horror parts. It's not a terrific movie, but it's creepy and weird, and that's fine with me.
Yes! The first person perspective when the necrobear screams just inches from the camera in the house scene... wow! That was actually pretty darn terrifying in the theater. Other than that Annihilation was overall a big bore.
This single scene by itself was really, really good. No jump scares, just build up and tension. A lot of these scenes could've worked as short films but it all just seemed smashed into one movie very poorly.
Thank goodness I’m not one of the few who’s always believed she’s stunk in everything she’s been in. Lol. I mean, I am a natural Portperson hater but whatever 🤷🏻♀️🤣👍
Portperson was okay in V for Vendetta when she only had to be a Doctor Who wooden exposition/companion. Her starting in a picture automatically lowers the bar on interesting.
How she got an Oscar is beyond me. But, also, have you noticed that she is just like every other Oscar winner....every movie she's been in since is terrible. Okay, there's a couple of exceptions (Denzel Washington, Hillary Swank).
Half Stalker & Half Colour Out Of Space Directed by M. Night. The word Shimmer also means: to reflect a wavering sometimes distorted light. So I believe it's a good name that fits the themes of the film. When different things happen to different people I think it's accounting for their thoughts/brain waves mixing with the unstable nature of the Shimmer, and there is a line in the film that alludes to their different mental reactions the team has to being in the "Zone". My major issues I had with the film are with the narrative set up, wooden acting and missed opportunities. The film doesn't take their initial journey into the "Zone" with any seriousness (could be a budget constraint). The world is facing an alien extinction event and they just yeet some science LARPers in with what appears to be no training or protective equipment. Was there no security expert before Portperson YOLOed into a secret government mission? The reality of the stakes are waifer thin. The performances feel off and wooden. Especially the black dude she is cheating with, no one communicates like that. I agree that it appears like a choice to add gravitas to the film, but unlike a Tarkovsky the film struggles to blur the line between poetry and reality. I also believe that the deft hand of poetry in film(Tarkovsky) is built throughout the entire film and not just squeezing in surreal and stiff acting. And lastly the film never plays with the unaccountable time in anyway. They wake up having missed 3 days at the start and then the film feels quite linear after. Huge missed opportunity to play with their mental states and time lost to help justify their unstable behaviour towards the end. Decent Sci Fi that's a 7/10. I agree with others opinions on the theme being heavily linked to human trauma/cancer and self destruction. Could be a 9/10 under a different hand that attempeted to further peel back the deeper meanings and inject some life into the characters. Would love to see what a Tarkovsky or an early Riddly Scott would do with the same source material. Bear was rad and the logic of the "Zone" literally falls apart when it's destroyed but Portperson and Star Wars beta still live. Peace
@BLAIR M Schirmer Nothing faltering about this review. He's just comparing how this film was made against how a lot of other movies are structured nowadays. Very clever breakdown of the movies major plot points and scenes. No I think CD is spot on here.
@BLAIR M Schirmer Agree with your assessment of the movie. I dunno if CD is faltering, but I do think there's much lower-hanging fruit out there for him to shit on than this movie.
The illogical scientific team that starts out with no protective suits or equipment, among other elements, gave me Prometheus in the first act vibes. Also the "seeming to engage with Serious Questions but ultimately dismissing them" thing.
I watched this movie together with my father. After it ended, he said, and I quote: “Either this movie has some incredibly deep meaning I’m just not getting, or shrooms were involved in the making of it. Most probably the latter”
“Natalie Portman cheats on her husband, then he dies. But then he comes back and she can tell it’s not really him. So she feels bad, wants to find out what happened to the real husband, and goes into an alien swamp. Then she comes out, doesn’t tell anyone that her husband is an alien, and decides the world has to die because she got some pipe on the side.” - me, whenever people ask about this movie
And the book this drivel is based on even makes less sense. Can you imagine that? All this book is leaving you with after reading the last words is this nasty feeling of just having been scammed.
She didn’t know it was not her husband. She only knew he was acting strangely. She definitely didn’t know he was an alien. What movie did you guys watch?
I think you need to revisit this movie. It has gotten a lot better the 2nd time around. A lot of the stuff you complain about at the end is easily explained from the movie. Like how the bear screams because it got the human DNA after ripping the chicks throat out so it is evolving with human cells also. You can kinda see it in it's face. I also really like how they took cosmic horror and used bright colors instead of darkness like The Void and others. As for the ending, Ventress goes down and merges with the Shimmer's cells. But she has cancer, so it causes her body to RAPIDLY evolve out of control, because cancer is just out of control cell multiplication, like she described and all that was left was the Shimmer's cell because they don't die like human cells. So during that extremely quick evolution all her human cells dies and the shimmer cells left floating around the room before coagulating into a physical form as a floating lump of cells needing new DNA to merge with. It gets that DNA from Portman and starts evolving into her. At the end, the Shimmer body (who was cell number 1, or the first cell as described in the begining of the movie) is killed while Portman's body ( who is the 3rd cell while Kane is the 2nd so they divide as said in the begining) leaves the Shimmer. Now with a duplicate Kane, and a Shimmer infected Portman, they can have sex and produce the next generation (4th, 5th, etc) of cells/shimmer infected bodies fulfilling what Portman said in the begining of the movie. And for the all women team, it's because they are trying new things as the previous 11 teams had different make ups of all male, mixed, and whatever so for this they are trying all women this time. ALSO - The Shimmer comes from another dimension as its floating shape that looks like it is coming out of itself, is exactly what a 4-dimensional object looks like in a 3-dimensional space.
Why would you send five mentally unstable scientists, four of which who have had no military training at all, into a scientific anomaly without an escort? They've been sending platoons of soilders into it for three years and they've only heard back from one. What makes you think scientists would cope better? It's not their job to deal with shit like this, at least send in the military with them. I loved it when they camped up in the watch tower. The only person on *watch* climbs down from the *watch* tower to *watch* a map from the ground, the *watch* tower is made for *watching* please *watch* from the *watch* tower, ffs. They then hear a noise and they all come running down from safety, good on you. They have guns, they have night vision, get back on the damn watch tower and use it. 💀💀💀💀
Another idea on the ending, and something I feel is reflective of the themes the book talks about, is that the 'alien' at the end has essentially unintentionally absorbed humanities desire for self destruction, and so destroys itself. It doesn't think or feel, it just spreads and absorbs, and what it absorbed from us killed it.
This is a great explanation but the fact that I've seen this movie and didn't remember any of this prior to reading your excellent explanation is a condemnation of the film's impact and story-telling. Drinker is absolutely right about the characters, they cardboard cutouts that you don't care about and thus all the details of their character are colored beige.
@@elblaise5618 I don't feel that this movie had to go deeper into the characters, show more emotional outbursts, more flashbacks, spend more time on dialogue & sharing their personal stories or whatever. The Shimmer is the main event/character, I can totally live with the fact that we see a couple of random women dropped inside of it and just observe how they all handle it, while focussing out of all of them, mainly on Nathalie Portman. It also doesn't seem compatible with the mystery of the Shimmer. And secondly, they don't all know each other very well either. So by keeping the viewer in the same dark, you feel like being part of the same group. And finally, there are so many movies with a limited dive into the background, feelings or motivations of the characters... that turnt out classics or at least are highly regarded.
The book was TRIPPY, and it was always going to present a huge challenge to adapt for the screen. They obviously struggled lol. On the subject of the all women team, they actually explained it in the book. They've tried all male military teams nearly every time before. The males tend to go crazier faster and tend to kill other team members etc.
I really appreciate that actually, it’s something that is touched based on in an anime called Claymore, where the male subjects go crazy while they female tend to control it better
@Cinematic Passages nah he is pretty ok. Check out Mission Impossible: Fallout. Its easy to think he is a bad actor when in so many unfortunately bad movies.
That was a very macho movie, and bleak. Usually he rips on movies, so it would have to go to his The Drinker Recommends pile. I liked it, myself. But I like most anything with that actor, I guess.
Mixed feelings about that one, it did a really good job of setting atmosphere and tone. The execution of completing the story is what turned a lot of people off to it. Especially when you put spoilers of the movie in your trailer...
If you think the film was bizarre, the book it's based on is far, far weirder. Frankly I was amazed anyone would try to make a film based on that book but I think they did at least manage to capture a bit of the unsettling weirdness. The ending is completely different and I found it unsatisfying overall.
They captured some of the weirdness but otherwise changed so much that in my opinion the movie is almost unrecognizable from the book. I think this movie is a great standalone film but an absolutely terrible adaptation of the book
I remember saying the exact same thing about Dakota Fanning, i watched the Alienist series and although her acting is good, she kinda lost some charisma
A rare miss for the Drinker. Anyone who didn't get the movie should read Roadside Picnic. It doesn't really have anything to do with it but it might help appreciate this particular kind of sci-fi story.
I love sci fi stories like this that leave you wondering what you just watched. I would imagine any contact with alien life would be equally enigmatic and unfulfilling.
I absolutely like watching Drinker's takes on movies but sometimes I believe Drinker either doesn't watch the movies or doesn't pay attention. The movie gives all the answers to his questions.
"The movie gives all the answers to his questions." It doesn't. I watched the movie, and I didn't understand shit. It's one of the two movies where I got so lost, I couldn't understand what's the point of the whole thing (the other was Southland Tales).
The book explains a couple of your points: the team is all-female because they've tried previous teams that were all-male, mixed gender, etc. so it's kind of a trial-and-error thing. The crocodile is mutated in that way because animals from the sea have traveled into the rivers within the Shimmer. As some others have also said, I think the bear is actually a really, really good movie monster.
Thats right. There are several novels about the Shimmer , and packing them into just one movie generates many questions. But sending in many teams is just dumb AF. What if the shimmer just kills EVERY human😆😆 would they send even their kids into? Dont know. Or just some drones on wheels...... Or just bombarding the shimmer with Nuclear warheads until it lets go.
@@skullyjones8234 It is implied in the novels that nothing worked to contain the Shimmer and it gradually expands until it will cover the entire planet so no they could not just bomb it. They can't send in drones because modern technology does not work inside it. I don't remember what exactly happens to modern things but I think it was something like inside the time works different so they rust/break faster and get overgrown, basically become unusable. Something like that. Since nothing worked to stop the Expansion and they can't get any information at all out of it they send it human teams by trial and error (because some actually return however they have "changed"). Obviously this was done to kind of explain the suicide missions otherwise it would be a boring story.
I just wanna know why they didnt take the beach route to get to the lighthouse in the first place. They never said they needed to go the same route as others or that they needed to recover data from the old HQ. The beach is obviously safer and impossible to get lost.
Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot, but then I'd love to be a tree when I grow up. I could retire to the country and just hang out and photosynthesize. Be nice to still get wood way into my old age.
@@lurker993 Good point. I thought the same thing. Perhaps they tried and sharks with legs came out of the water and attacked teams who tried it first? lol. I always thought it was a missed opportunity to not show us how the shimmer effected ocean going life. I must admit though, this one of the only Drinker videos I disagree with. I absolutely loved the film
Good or bad, this movie will always have a special place in my heart because after randomly coming across it and watching it, I took to youtube to see if there were any interesting breakdowns. And that is how I discovered the drinker : )
If this movie will always have a special place in your heart, than maybe it isn't bad? Maybe you should stop listening this dude who absolutly missed the point of the movie too?
@@funboy3992 Bad things can still be enjoyed despite their shittiness, or even because of it. How else could explain anyone liking the Shadow the Hedgehog game (myself included)?
@@V742 I didn't play the game you're talking about. What you are saying here can be true, but in this situation it is not. This dude's review is just bad. I'm not even talking about him trying to find a feministic ideas in this movie. Just from the moment when he started criticizing the moment when main character's husband don't remember what happend to him on a secret mission, I began to resent
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Skin walkers are native American folklore. They are usually shamans that have the ability to shapeshift. They are told to be evil and mark their victims. Marked one is troubled by this entity and can cause death too.
Allow me to shed some light on this situation. Skinwalkers are human beings who turn into wolves or bears and back again through sorcery. Basically a case of lycanthropy. The Wendigo is a little more interesting, it's a beast that is created by human beings indulging in cannibalism, and is cursed to always be hungry. It has traits of both a human and a deer, and has gnawed off the skin around it's own face in a bid to satisfy its own hungriness. The beast in this film is closer to a wendigo than a skin walker, since it has exposed skull and shares the wendigo's ability to speak with a human voice. The only similarity it has to a skinwalker is the shape of a bear.
I think I would have to agree (sadly) I mean there have been some decent ones here & there..but I honestly can't say there have been true stand out films lately..hollywood nowadays fall way short of any type of Real entertainment..it's just seems HollyWierd is get'n weirder & weirder 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️💨😐😐😐
I just found out that this movie was supposed to be a metaphor for the different ways cancer can affect a person. I went back and rewatched it after I heard that. It was a totally different experience seeing it with that stuff in mind.
Agreed with it all. I'd like to add that I had the feeling that the movie was preachy about the world being better with only plants and animals and no humans. Can't remember very well, I only know that I hated it.
It makes me wonder what Gina’s relationship is with Michelle! Gina Rodriguez is the actress who The Drinker called discount Michelle Rodriguez, and I though that was quite humorous. By the way, did some research, and turns out she is not. czcams.com/video/MlkfdU9xQe0/video.html&app=desktop
yes and the shark croc thing can be easily explained simce the shimmer was on the coastline and crocs are known to wander into sea of they are that close...plus all the rest wasnt that high brow but i absolutely loved it...its well paced and really unsettling
I agree. I think it's okay for people to have differing opinions. I rented this movie from Redbox twice because I liked it so much. I don't even know if I'd call it a "good movie". I just enjoyed the experience.
3:55 wait isn’t this also what Hollywood keeps doing? “”Well we made this one film that no one liked so it flopped at the cinema but if we keep doing it sooner or later they will have to watch it...... right?””
This is what I thought throughout the vid as well. It does seem odd to hate on a contemporary classic for all the wrong reasons, though it has been proven that negative engagement with popular media actually generates more attention and views overall, so this review really calls into question whether this guy even cares to make realistic and fair reviews for films (or is trying to be "critical" which he must thinks means being negative) or if it's just easier for him to piss on a good film and hope that a few quips will make up for a lack of reasonable engagement with the media. Great film, excellent books as well.
@@ironmonkey1512 Ah, you see, that's because the writers are trying to be "clever" and their own script proves them to be dumb. They try to make you believe they don't exactly know where the centre of the Shitter is, despite making it very clear at the start of the movie that the Shitter was actually pretty small to begin with and then started expanding, which means they can pretty accurately pinpoint where the meteor crashed.
@@joelsefur666 really? I loved the ideas of the first one, but book two was filler, literally nothing happened. I couldn't even get through the first half of book three it was so dumb.
I think it helps to have read the book that the movie is based on to fully comprehend what's going on, but even without reading the series, you can still get some of the answers to the questions asked by critical drinker. I say some because, as with most if not all cosmic horror stories, not all questions will be answered.
The book the movie is based on is really good, and gradually reveals most of its secrets. There's also a poetry inside it that is completely absent from the film, bar some of the visuals. I think an adaptation would work much better as a series. A quick summary of the story would be something like this: an alien crashed into the planet 50 years ago, housed inside some kind of "prism". This prism breaks light, and shifts/morphs whatever it comes into contact with, mutating everything inside the shimmer. The shimmer expands as the range (intensity?) of the prism grows. The shiver not only influences whatever is inside, but also tries to copy and morph into it, so it can become more powerful by and increase its range by spreading ever more rapidly. And humanity can't seem to stop this infestation, losing who or whatever comes into contact with it. Except for the Port-person (I see what you did there) character, who is actually the first mutated entity created out of a human that is both self-aware and able to sustain itself outside of the shimmer without falling apart (unlike her former husband, who was merely a shell pretenting to be the man by the time he arrived at her doorstep). As a self-conscious being that is both alien and human, Portperson realizes that she needs to go back inside to communicate with the alien, so she can figure out a way to stop it from destroying all it comes into contact with. To find some sort of solution to its predicament, being stuck on this planet by itself, with no way out, and no real way to communicate. But I guess the film never got there. Which is a shame really. So read the books instead!
That is what is on the surface. Here is what it's really about in a nutshell… Annihilation is like a modern war movie. The journey (the pain) you experience changes you in such a way that can never really go home again in that you will never see anyone (especially friends or family) or anything the same way again because of the changes the pain has made in you. The doppelgänger at the end represents her pain which she defeats and ultimately get to go home. She goes home, but the pain the journey itself has caused has changed her and her husband forever.
@@phadrus4435 I was simply describing the plot, not the thematic core. Something I found the film conveys quite poorly, by being opaque to a fault. Both the book and the film did remind me a lot of Apocalypse Now (and The Heart of Darkness on which it is based) , which explores similar themes: a journey to a world that changes one forever, to travel beyond the point of no return and humanity, to lose oneself and come out a different person. In a way, I like your description of the film better than the film itself. Which unfortunately falls short of the book it is based on, which I love dearly.
Well put. I loved the books, reading them was a bit little walking in a fog but by the end most of it cleared out and you can see the overall picture. There were some "scenes" that I went back and read a few times (something I almost never do when reading), like for example the first event at the pub (third book). Damn, that was some intense writing.
The book was a chore, and what little I read of the second was worse. Plot points (contrivances) being explained more thoroughly doesn't actually help all that much. Less loose ends, sure, but like another commenter said, it is effectively an anthology that got merged. CT himself points it out, through the _Wouldn't It Be Cool_ section of the video. The writing, on the a technical level, was incredibly dry. None of the characters felt like people, just vehicles for an idea, and predestined to end badly. The Black Guy Always Dies First sort of deal, except it's everyone and they're all made of cardboard. It's not possible to get invested into a character (let alone many) if you know there is mind-fuckery going on, since all actions become suspect, all motives become esoteric. It's like _Redshirts_ and _House of Leaves_ had a baby, but not in a good way.
@@axelord4ever I'm sorry to hear that. I read all three back to back, so I can't say i share your perspective. Instead I found them challenging and philosophical, an exploration of identity, of man vs nature, as what was mentioned above. There was a beauty to this savage new reality, this fusion of local and foreign. The second book was very interesting because it showed the complete opposite of the first book: a stale, rigid world of bureaucracy, hiding as many secrets as the first book. The third felt like the fusion of both worlds, the familiar trying to come to terms with the unknown, well aware both sides are ill equiped to ever truly understand each other, but having to find a way to coexist regardless.
LOVE this movie….loved the score, the visuals, the ambiguity of the outcome, all of it. Just brilliant cosmic horror and I’m so happy all the top comments agree 🙌
This movie is more about cheating on your partner, becoming a chameleon with lies, not being able to cover up your sins, self destruction and recreation, and relationships then it is about sci-fi. The shimmer, the creatures, the alien are all metaphors
This is one video where I can´t agree at all. Annihilation was a really interesting movie and I don´t see a reason why everything needs to be explained. It´s a movie that means to deliberately keep you questioning things as even the characters experience something inhuman and out of this world to which they have no answers for.
@@abark The whole point was that she had to grow up fast in her life, so she was thinking of herself as a young adult, and acted like one. That was a solid performance. The next thing I saw her in was Star Wars Episode 1, where she was kind of not so great, and that was in the 90s. I can't think of a good movie now besides possibly Star Wars Episode 1 which really wasn't, but it's a masterpiece compared to Disney's crap they've been putting out in my opinion. I totally agree with you. :) Now, it seems she just does woke nonsense and complains when men don't watch her movies.
You missed some horribly stupid things: They already sent in several expeditions into the shimmer. And when her husband returns they put him into quarantine. HOWEVER: when the team goes into the shimmer they are equipped like going to a hiking tour. When me and some buddies watched this movie some months ago, we started yelling "hazard suit" because it was so obvious. Also: they know it affects communication. Well, if you already sent in several teams and they got lost, how about trying to get a landline in there? They could do it in WW2, so why not in this movie? Also: They know their target is at the beach... did nobody ever try to get there by ship?! This movie is full of absurdities and stupidity!
Nah, its just you thats stupid. Your the type that doesnt buy a delicious crunchy apple cause it has a tiny blemish on it....Peter perfect, are ya...the movie's a classic, idiot...
@@karenmcdonald4263 1) I'm allergic to apples so I wouldn't even buy shiny ones. 2) I can appreciate bad movies, even the ones with ridiculous setups. But those setups are consitent in themselves. This movie is figuratively a polished turd. It's a trash movie with a Hollywood polish.
as an allegory for cancer the movie does well to leave so many unanswered questions. the shimmer invades our world like cancer invades its host. any attempts on our part to understand why it happens or what we can do about it are thwarted because cancer doesn't 'think' in those rational terms, it simply does. this film is a creepy and effective take on our own powerlessness when faced by the scarier parts of our own lives. still a good review though and i definitely agree about the refreshing lack of gender politics at play.
The bear should have been the focus of the movie. It was already the emotional catharsis. Everything after that felt like epilogue, like hobbits jumping up and down on Frodo's bed.
But it looks as if they took it from the 1979 film Prophecy. So like the alkie said its bits strung together. The only thing memorable about that film is the poster that was a ripoff of the ALIEN egg poster and the exploding yellow sleeping bag scene.
The Drinker: "These are cool ideas, but unfortunately they have to be supported by a strong, intelligent story that draws you in, keeps you invested and delivers a satisfying payoff that ties everything together". Any Hollywood producer: "I don't know the meaning of 11 of these words".
Basically, Metaphors and Symbolism by themselves don't make a great experience. There has to be a relatable, substantial story that has a strong foundation to build off of, otherwise you're just left with pointless, pretentious fluff that doesn't really go anywhere.
Incidentally, I recently found out that like half of Event Horizon was cut from the final film for being too scary or some limp-penised reason. It’s like meeting someone really cool at a party that no one else seems to realize is cool and then never seeing them again, but then finding out that they were actually twice as cool as you realized-- well I suck at analogies, CD, but you get it.
It is visual poetry. The entire film is an emotional metaphor. Fans were misled by marketing that sold the film as being sci-fi horror. It is about grief, relationships, and self-destruction.
@@jarrensmith1060yeah I'm surprised he didn't like the movie. Maybe bc it needed the audience to come up with theories as to explain supposed plot holes? This move really intrigued me
@@heintz256 The high ranking ones do as they can pick their movies, but even that has it's extent at the fine line between synonyms and script rewrites.
Give him a chance to shine in his acting career. People likes to make fun of "I have the high ground" to Ewan and he still success till this days and he seems like he's having fun with it.
Yea I disagree with the Drinker. This movie doesn't spoon-feed you the answers. The movie reminds me of 2001 with the space crew going to investigate the Monolith. I honestly feel people give the Drinker more credit than he deserves.
Thank you! that's what I was thinking. Roadside Picnic has great world building, mystery and good characters. This is just a Hollywood girl power flick. Go watch Stalker, million times better.
@@lonemaus562 different strokes I guess... I loved it. It was scary, intriguing, philosophical and had a bit of an adventure vibe. Would love to see more horror movies like that.
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You should also really look at posting your content on Rumble as well. We all know the next ScrewTube purge is just around the corner, so exploring your options is always a good idea.
@The Critical Drinker Please review the cult classic 'Withnail & I' (1987) - one of the best drinking films of all time (and it's much, much more than that).
Do Anime and Tokusatsu Reviews, Drinker. Do them now and Hurry Up
wtf your a drunk and a writer?
"Natalie Portperson"
Well people we did it, sexism is no more
this is the kind of thing you'd hear on late night with david letterperson!!
😈
We? Good job on taking credit for things you have nothing to do with ;)
Boys? How dare you!?
"Not if I have anything to say about it. AND I DO! I'm going to say the M-word!"
We're all just part of the huperson race.
So Tessa Thompson literally turns into a plank of wood. Wow, she was born for that role.
She kinda already was. She's never been a great actor.
Nice burn.
Love your user name
it's like the producers looked at each other and said "female character turns into a hunk of wood" and they all snap their fingers at the same time and say "Tessa Thompson"
@@Acme1970 All those snaps and not a single one was a Thanos snap to save the universe???
Alligators and bull sharks share the same waters around Florida Bay and the Everglades
I actually was into this movie. It has a an interesting sci-fi premise, and a good atmosphere. It leaves a lot of questions, but that's mostly intentional and I don't have a problem with it.
After seeing the !movie! Multiple times and read the book once (don't recommend the book) I can tell you this was one of the best cosmic horror !movies I've ever seen, and those are really hard to nail.
@@OsirisMawn If this is the peak of sci-fi horror then no wonder that genre is dead.
Sorry but not sorry. Not everyone can pull a David Lynch. And I think it's been proven with this film.
i fucking loved it, and still love it. The story was weird, and i liked that, i enjoyed the ambiguity of the ending, and i especially loved the chilling alien soundtrack. gives me the same feeling as an air raid siren. I love it more as an art piece than a movie, i guess? Either way, I love it.
You guys must like shit movies.
Regardless, that screaming undead bear was a masterclass in creature creation. Actually terrifying.
Yes, driven by madness, fear, loneliness and having a terrified mind thrown in it. It wasn't evil in intent, it was trying to find escape, making it that much more terrifying
Nightmare fuel for a long time for me.😨
I shit my pants at that bit
Best part of the movie. Hands down
the thing is better
Not gonna lie, I loved the monster with the human voice. I think it's a pretty cool concept, a creature that kills an animal, copies its last calls for help and uses it to lure others who want to help.
Boy do I have a thing for you
@@abutterynoodle9347 What would that be??
Kinda like an SCP I’ve read about.
The thing that bothers me is that the different strange mutations of all the organisms seem too random and arbitrary. It’s like it the writing doesn’t really expect more from its audience. That some cool ideas, visuals, and music is enough and the writing doesn’t have to do much at all to satisfy the viewer. Everything else will pick up the slack.
@@Vaillle random AND arbitrary? you mean like when somethinig is too wet AND dry?
Ever seen Predator ?
Really liked that movie, it has its flaws, but I think the questions that it brings up were fun to think about.
I always understood the effect of the shimmer to be pretty much the effect of something explorers would find in outer space.
Something that follows rules we can't even grasp, but that triggers particular behaviors in people due to our own animalistic nature.
Basically, cosmic horror. It worked great in that regard.
Yep, it's really difficult to think of life outside the carbon based lifeforms we are and know, but this movie seemed to do it really well. it was completely unfathomable
It's just the Color out of Space
Yep great movie, on many levels. Good book too
Btw it’s called the shiter
The shitiest Shiter.
“Natalie Portperson” 😆🤣
Pure gold! hahah
Natalie Portmanteau
"It's Portma'am!"
Natalie Porter Potty
I really think Natalie Portperson should make a movie with Hugh Jackperson.
“Natalie Portperson”
This is why I love Critical Drinker
So tolerant and inclusive sham wow
That's because she's one of the peoplekind.
LMAO
Should also have been Tessa TomsChild.
IT'S "MAN". PORT "MAN".
I love the drinker’s videos and normally find his assessment to be right on the money. This is a rare instance where I feel he missed the mark. Admittedly my viewpoint is skewed as well since I have the benefit of viewing this as a long time fan of the Weird fiction genre. So many elements of the book and movie draw direct comparisons to Lovecraft’s Weird fiction masterpiece, “The Color Out Of Space.” In many ways this movie mimics the writing style of Weird fiction and Lovecraft and his contemporaries. For instance The Drinker notes a, “paper thin plot.” In a lot of weird fiction the plot is less important than the concepts and the atmosphere. So in a way he is correct but, that works for what they are trying to accomplish. Also it seems he may have missed the cancer analogy that the shimmer is causing everything it touches to mutate and gain characteristics of other things touched by the shimmer. For instance the gator and shark since the shimmer lands near the ocean but has extended onto the land. The movie also does not spoil itself as the Natalie Portman that leaves is not the one that entered as the shimmer has, “infected.” her as it does to everything that enters. Also drinker is right on the money with the self destruction motif at the end that was the reading I had as well; although I wouldn’t say it was a reach. The biggest issue I think is a misunderstanding of what the movie is trying to capture; which in my opinion is an encounter with something that is truly alien in every way. What if alien life isn’t just an entity what if it takes the form of a place? Of course this is my own reading of the movie and it is colored by my prior knowledge but, I agree that should not be needed to enjoy a good movie. But, for a Weird fiction fan; seeing a movie with this level of polish and craftsmanship being unafraid to enter into the truly ambiguous territory of Weird fiction was awesome.
I find more things common with Solaris and Roadside Picnic. But yes, he just didn't understand the point
Theme over substance is never good for a movie.
Color out of space is an amazing movie. Everything that happened was explained. Maybe thats the difference?
@@geteavnroc2250not everything needs to be explained , that's y annihilation is a great cosmic horror . It leaves you thinking
The difficulty in understanding what they are trying to accomplish may be why so few Lovecraftian horror films are commercially successful. However, it does seem a bit backwards to me that Drinker loved “Event Horizon” but didn’t like this.
I'm pleasantly surprised by how many comments defending this movie there are. Annihilation is a story about relationships wrapped within a veil of cosmic horror. It's definitely not a mainstream genre, and the source material would be so difficult to adapt to film that I even still question the wisdom of that decision. The movie was weird. It left some of the most important aspects of the main character's personal narrative out. It explained even less than the book did and gave few answers. Most people find that very unsatisfying, and that's valid. I'm in the niche who enjoy that kind of stuff, and so I thought it was a fairly solid adaptation until the last few minutes when I felt it unravelled. I normally can see Drinker's PoV even if I don't agree with his takes, but this is the first review of his that I didn't bother to finish because he seems so hostile and dismissive towards attempts to interpret the themes as being faux-intellectual.
It had some decently disconcerting images. The bear screaming with thar woman's voice was very off-putting.
That, the fungus-like skeleton growth, the human-shaped bushes when they first walk into the abandoned town were all beautiful and creepy. Too bad the rest was boring as hell.
Yeah that scene was disturbing
Just another spectacle with no substance.
That's the only scene I remember 🤣🍿
That was about the only scene that was cool imo, having watched Sci-Fi for about 30 years this movie was just a big MEH for me, didn't even remember it until Drinker posted this review ^_^
That bear that screams like it's victim is probably one of the scariest things I've ever seen, though.
Yeah...that scene was pretty much the only redeeming bit from that entire trash fire.
I stopped watching the video when I read that comment :))))))))))))))))))))
Wish me a peaceful night
It's an Alzabo. Look it up
Trees overcoming people and transforming them into trees...
Mark Wahlberg: internal screaming
It's pretty much just SCP-939
“The shitter is slowly expanding” 💀
this movie isn't dumb.
Agreed. I love Critical drinker but he's too harsh sometimes. Great movie
When the world needed him most, he drank...
sorry im waiting for rags too pop in an disagree for the hell of it
The hero we deserve and need.
And nobody saw it coming...4 more times.
Brilliant! 👍
Altruism and beaning Realist is what C.D. does best.
"I dont know" is perfect as a new drinker recurring clip
Fuck
(Or is that Mauler)
"Don't know" is more canonical though.
Agreed, he nerds to run with it.
I often use Drinker's accent when I reply to my wife if she's asking me rhetorical questions.
Needs to be used at least as much as "No way!"
I liked th fact that the alien s not good or bad, but just an organism with the urge to evolve and adapt.
Your review gave me low expectations and honestly I loved it. It just takes you on this trippy ride and doesn't spoon-feed you answers. It's creepy, visually interesting and is better than what you see in Netflix and Amazon nowadays. No politics, misandry or other nonsense you see in a lot of modern movies.
I mean, it doesn't really have time for politics or misandry - there are no men present, and the women won't shut up for five minutes. If I were you, I'd go and watch Contact if you haven't already - a fantastic and genuinely intelligent film that also doesn't explain too much, but actually has more to say - or perhaps even delve into the inspiration for this story, Stalker (based in turn on "Roadside Picnic") - the film that is, not the game... although if you're a gamer, definitely play Stalker (would recommend the Gamma mod pack).
@@NicholasBrakespear I liked Contact and am a fan of Carl Sagan. I enjoyed my watch of Annihilation. I had low expectations, maybe that helped
@@clanwaddell5628 If you never saw event Horizon you should also give it à try. But you probably already saw it. It's my favourite sci-fi/horror movie. It's quite unsettling.
@@xminusone1 event horizon is one of my favorite movies
The bear was the stand out performer of this movie. Genuinely terrifying and a great monster creation.
That bear when he said help me gave me goosebumps
@@umbrellaguy6934 same. Hairs on the back of my neck just thinking about that noise. I hope the bear gets it's own sequel.
@Steve bearbumps*
To true
Yes! That's why i cant hate this movie.....and all other cool things.
I'm glad you mentioned the gender thing. When they mentioned they were sending in an all-female team, I thought, "Oh brother, here we go," but they didn't make it into a huge thing and I appreciated that.
Kinda cringe that he said they made rational, logical decisions and were all Experts at their Fields when this is clearly not the case; to a laughable degree. Them being send in there and what they're doing in there is kinda the only thing one can really analyse about this s-it-movie, so people did: And the result is that its idiotic. All of it. Mainly their 'strategic decisions' that Drinker just complimented.
@@loturzelrestaurant Yeah, but at that point they'd seen dozens of teams of highly trained soldiers go into 'the shitter' and never come back. Going in is basically a suicide mission and they know it. So the only kinds of people who would go in are volunteers who basically don't give a fuck about self-preservation on a deep level and are basically marching off to their death to satisfy some deep burning curiosity. They're not really being sent in so much as they're being allowed to go in. In fact it's pretty much established in the beginning that they're all depressed as fuck and we learn throughout the movie that Natalie Portperson is also driven by a heavy dose of guilt as well. Of course once they meet the alligator it starts to bring up their fight or flight instincts, snapping them back to reality a little bit. As the movie progresses from there, it becomes apparent that they really didn't have their minds in the right place from the get-go. Even if they're moderately competent (albeit not so much as soldiers and survivalists) they clearly weren't mentally prepared for a real fight. Like a suicidal person looking down from the rooftop and suddenly remembering their fear of heights. Not to mention, 'the shitter' is actively messing with their heads as well, messing with their sense of time, and mixing up their DNA, form and even consciousness with the plants and animals around them. In fact, the doppleganger that we see at the end is not actually making a copy of Natalie Portperson at all. It's actively mixing the both of them together until they're both equal parts. She doesn't remember shit because both she and the doppleganger were scrambled 50/50. Same thing for her husband. It's kind of an interesting take on "what if a life form found another way to combine DNA and multiply without sexual reproduction?" except that the only ones to make real contact with it were depressed, suicidal people and weird animals.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 Sorry,
but thats no Excuse for what we see.
@@loturzelrestaurant You seem determined to not like this film
@@Krooksbane I did see it, mate. I realized before any CZcamsr made a video about it, that it's hilariously bad. Why? Well, simple: I'm not a simpleton, who doesnt realize 10000 Plot Holes. I just do.
I like how you couldn't even give anything against the bear monster. Great shit on that one.
Really though, I heard nothing of this movie until it was playing, at which point I thought, "Hey, this is the Color out of Space!" And from then on, I was just concerned with how it's a pretty sweet take on a Lovecraft story, and really nails the cosmic horror parts. It's not a terrific movie, but it's creepy and weird, and that's fine with me.
The bear scene was creepy AF.
The Bear scene was actually genuinely eerie and well done. I wish the whole movie felt like that one scene and I woulda loved it
Yes! The first person perspective when the necrobear screams just inches from the camera in the house scene... wow! That was actually pretty darn terrifying in the theater. Other than that Annihilation was overall a big bore.
This single scene by itself was really, really good. No jump scares, just build up and tension. A lot of these scenes could've worked as short films but it all just seemed smashed into one movie very poorly.
@@adamgray1753 i'd argue their musical score was great also, especially for the final act.
I genuinely enjoyed the ending scence with the morphing alien thing too
If only anything else was eerie or scary. Instead it’s just confusing and needlessly disjointed
Natalie Portperson should’ve turned to a tree too to match her never ending wooden acting
Thank goodness I’m not one of the few who’s always believed she’s stunk in everything she’s been in. Lol. I mean, I am a natural Portperson hater but whatever 🤷🏻♀️🤣👍
Portperson was okay in V for Vendetta when she only had to be a Doctor Who wooden exposition/companion.
Her starting in a picture automatically lowers the bar on interesting.
LOL got em
How she got an Oscar is beyond me. But, also, have you noticed that she is just like every other Oscar winner....every movie she's been in since is terrible. Okay, there's a couple of exceptions (Denzel Washington, Hillary Swank).
AYYY
The Drinker doesn't understand cosmic horror. . .
Spikima Movies - Annihilation’s Cosmic Framing
Half Stalker & Half Colour Out Of Space Directed by M. Night.
The word Shimmer also means: to reflect a wavering sometimes distorted light. So I believe it's a good name that fits the themes of the film.
When different things happen to different people I think it's accounting for their thoughts/brain waves mixing with the unstable nature of the Shimmer, and there is a line in the film that alludes to their different mental reactions the team has to being in the "Zone".
My major issues I had with the film are with the narrative set up, wooden acting and missed opportunities. The film doesn't take their initial journey into the "Zone" with any seriousness (could be a budget constraint). The world is facing an alien extinction event and they just yeet some science LARPers in with what appears to be no training or protective equipment. Was there no security expert before Portperson YOLOed into a secret government mission? The reality of the stakes are waifer thin.
The performances feel off and wooden. Especially the black dude she is cheating with, no one communicates like that. I agree that it appears like a choice to add gravitas to the film, but unlike a Tarkovsky the film struggles to blur the line between poetry and reality. I also believe that the deft hand of poetry in film(Tarkovsky) is built throughout the entire film and not just squeezing in surreal and stiff acting.
And lastly the film never plays with the unaccountable time in anyway. They wake up having missed 3 days at the start and then the film feels quite linear after. Huge missed opportunity to play with their mental states and time lost to help justify their unstable behaviour towards the end.
Decent Sci Fi that's a 7/10. I agree with others opinions on the theme being heavily linked to human trauma/cancer and self destruction. Could be a 9/10 under a different hand that attempeted to further peel back the deeper meanings and inject some life into the characters. Would love to see what a Tarkovsky or an early Riddly Scott would do with the same source material.
Bear was rad and the logic of the "Zone" literally falls apart when it's destroyed but Portperson and Star Wars beta still live.
Peace
Man, you could actually really feel the cringe and pain in the Drinker's groan when he went.....
"and.....UGH.....Tessa Thompson"😂😂😂
She's 💩
Perfect clip of her looking a bit smug when he did, too.
"Person, you could actually really feel the cringe and pain in the Drinker's groan when he/she/ze went....."
Fixed it for you, you bigot.
Ugh how sexist. It’s Tessa Thompchild to you!
We all feel that same level of cringe and pain.
"The stage is now set for whatever passes for the finale."
- The Critical Drinker
@BLAIR M Schirmer Nothing faltering about this review. He's just comparing how this film was made against how a lot of other movies are structured nowadays. Very clever breakdown of the movies major plot points and scenes. No I think CD is spot on here.
@BLAIR M Schirmer Agree with your assessment of the movie. I dunno if CD is faltering, but I do think there's much lower-hanging fruit out there for him to shit on than this movie.
No, he’s spot on as usual.
You being triggered is amusing though
@@colinsmith1412 A very even-handed and nuanced appraisal of my comment. Keep the hits coming!
The illogical scientific team that starts out with no protective suits or equipment, among other elements, gave me Prometheus in the first act vibes. Also the "seeming to engage with Serious Questions but ultimately dismissing them" thing.
I watched this movie together with my father. After it ended, he said, and I quote:
“Either this movie has some incredibly deep meaning I’m just not getting, or shrooms were involved in the making of it. Most probably the latter”
“Natalie Portman cheats on her husband, then he dies. But then he comes back and she can tell it’s not really him. So she feels bad, wants to find out what happened to the real husband, and goes into an alien swamp. Then she comes out, doesn’t tell anyone that her husband is an alien, and decides the world has to die because she got some pipe on the side.”
- me, whenever people ask about this movie
Sums it all up. Brilliant.
@Lord Brain Lord Portperson has a nice ring to it.
And the book this drivel is based on even makes less sense. Can you imagine that? All this book is leaving you with after reading the last words is this nasty feeling of just having been scammed.
@Lord Brain Well, considering how wooden her acting is, as well as her plank-like build, be careful not to get splinters... :D
She didn’t know it was not her husband. She only knew he was acting strangely. She definitely didn’t know he was an alien. What movie did you guys watch?
Tessa Thompson is possibly one of the most mediocre, forgettable, bland actors in Hollywood right now... and that says ALOT.
She was fun in thor 3, but that whole movie was fun so maybe it carried her. Apart from that, you're absolutely correct.
That says a lot considering Brie Larson exists in the same sphere.
@@jburdsinfuse Brie Larson elicits a response at least.
Who?
It's a tie between her and Brie for the title of being The Absolute Worst. The fictional title is held by Laurie from the Walking Dead.
I think you need to revisit this movie. It has gotten a lot better the 2nd time around. A lot of the stuff you complain about at the end is easily explained from the movie. Like how the bear screams because it got the human DNA after ripping the chicks throat out so it is evolving with human cells also. You can kinda see it in it's face. I also really like how they took cosmic horror and used bright colors instead of darkness like The Void and others. As for the ending, Ventress goes down and merges with the Shimmer's cells. But she has cancer, so it causes her body to RAPIDLY evolve out of control, because cancer is just out of control cell multiplication, like she described and all that was left was the Shimmer's cell because they don't die like human cells. So during that extremely quick evolution all her human cells dies and the shimmer cells left floating around the room before coagulating into a physical form as a floating lump of cells needing new DNA to merge with. It gets that DNA from Portman and starts evolving into her. At the end, the Shimmer body (who was cell number 1, or the first cell as described in the begining of the movie) is killed while Portman's body ( who is the 3rd cell while Kane is the 2nd so they divide as said in the begining) leaves the Shimmer. Now with a duplicate Kane, and a Shimmer infected Portman, they can have sex and produce the next generation (4th, 5th, etc) of cells/shimmer infected bodies fulfilling what Portman said in the begining of the movie. And for the all women team, it's because they are trying new things as the previous 11 teams had different make ups of all male, mixed, and whatever so for this they are trying all women this time.
ALSO - The Shimmer comes from another dimension as its floating shape that looks like it is coming out of itself, is exactly what a 4-dimensional object looks like in a 3-dimensional space.
Great explanations!
Why would you send five mentally unstable scientists, four of which who have had no military training at all, into a scientific anomaly without an escort? They've been sending platoons of soilders into it for three years and they've only heard back from one. What makes you think scientists would cope better? It's not their job to deal with shit like this, at least send in the military with them.
I loved it when they camped up in the watch tower. The only person on *watch* climbs down from the *watch* tower to *watch* a map from the ground, the *watch* tower is made for *watching* please *watch* from the *watch* tower, ffs. They then hear a noise and they all come running down from safety, good on you. They have guns, they have night vision, get back on the damn watch tower and use it. 💀💀💀💀
Another idea on the ending, and something I feel is reflective of the themes the book talks about, is that the 'alien' at the end has essentially unintentionally absorbed humanities desire for self destruction, and so destroys itself. It doesn't think or feel, it just spreads and absorbs, and what it absorbed from us killed it.
This is a great explanation but the fact that I've seen this movie and didn't remember any of this prior to reading your excellent explanation is a condemnation of the film's impact and story-telling. Drinker is absolutely right about the characters, they cardboard cutouts that you don't care about and thus all the details of their character are colored beige.
@@elblaise5618 I don't feel that this movie had to go deeper into the characters, show more emotional outbursts, more flashbacks, spend more time on dialogue & sharing their personal stories or whatever. The Shimmer is the main event/character, I can totally live with the fact that we see a couple of random women dropped inside of it and just observe how they all handle it, while focussing out of all of them, mainly on Nathalie Portman. It also doesn't seem compatible with the mystery of the Shimmer. And secondly, they don't all know each other very well either. So by keeping the viewer in the same dark, you feel like being part of the same group.
And finally, there are so many movies with a limited dive into the background, feelings or motivations of the characters... that turnt out classics or at least are highly regarded.
The book was TRIPPY, and it was always going to present a huge challenge to adapt for the screen. They obviously struggled lol.
On the subject of the all women team, they actually explained it in the book. They've tried all male military teams nearly every time before. The males tend to go crazier faster and tend to kill other team members etc.
I really appreciate that actually, it’s something that is touched based on in an anime called Claymore, where the male subjects go crazy while they female tend to control it better
They left out the most interesting part of the book: the crawler.
Henry Cavill said it best while portraying Geralt: "You talk nonsense while making long and meaningful faces."
@Cinematic Passages nah he is pretty ok. Check out Mission Impossible: Fallout.
Its easy to think he is a bad actor when in so many unfortunately bad movies.
@@denkerbosu3551 he’s like Liam Neeson. He’s a good actor but in so many bad roles. Gerald, however, is seemingly the most perfect role he’s had yet.
@Cinematic Passages Wow, you seem to be really full of yourself...
Must be a filmcritic...
@Cinematic Passages You have more ego than you have any sense of self awareness.
@Cinematic Passages Arrogant prick
I'd like to hear your opinion on the movie, "The Grey."
That was a very macho movie, and bleak. Usually he rips on movies, so it would have to go to his The Drinker Recommends pile. I liked it, myself. But I like most anything with that actor, I guess.
Me too same.
I never saw it but I remember my brother and dad thinking it was anticlimactic.
Good movie
Mixed feelings about that one, it did a really good job of setting atmosphere and tone.
The execution of completing the story is what turned a lot of people off to it.
Especially when you put spoilers of the movie in your trailer...
If you think the film was bizarre, the book it's based on is far, far weirder. Frankly I was amazed anyone would try to make a film based on that book but I think they did at least manage to capture a bit of the unsettling weirdness. The ending is completely different and I found it unsatisfying overall.
They captured some of the weirdness but otherwise changed so much that in my opinion the movie is almost unrecognizable from the book. I think this movie is a great standalone film but an absolutely terrible adaptation of the book
I liked this movie better when it was Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl
Or when it was just... know, Stalker
So Roadside Picnic?
All of the above
What a game! My toddler went as a Snork for Halloween, this year.
deneb
PC Natalie Portperson is a long way from the girl that played Matilda in "The Professional"
@Mr. Fuck Hughson of 123 Eat Shit Lane I was before the Weinsteining? You explain her amazing career and tiny talent then!
Natalie Portperson career peaked in 1994.
Kyle 1m I was thinking the same thing the whole time
I liked her in The Dark Knight Rises 😂
I remember saying the exact same thing about Dakota Fanning, i watched the Alienist series and although her acting is good, she kinda lost some charisma
A rare miss for the Drinker. Anyone who didn't get the movie should read Roadside Picnic. It doesn't really have anything to do with it but it might help appreciate this particular kind of sci-fi story.
I love sci fi stories like this that leave you wondering what you just watched. I would imagine any contact with alien life would be equally enigmatic and unfulfilling.
"Natalie Portperson"
You're a progressive hero, Drinker 🤣🤣🤣
Reminds me of when George Carlin mocked Feminists back in the 90s and called David Letterman "David Letterperson"
The movie that somehow made Tessa Thompson literally more wooden.
She was bland as a sorrority witch in a low budget flick around 20 years ago, she’s still bland now..
I absolutely like watching Drinker's takes on movies but sometimes I believe Drinker either doesn't watch the movies or doesn't pay attention. The movie gives all the answers to his questions.
Go on
Tbf, he may be drunk as a pig when he's watching it
@@yok3rsp8No, it's not fair when your job is to literally pay attention to the film.
@yok3rsp8 nah that's just his online persona lol the man is built like a twig in real life and doesn't even have that much of an accent
"The movie gives all the answers to his questions."
It doesn't. I watched the movie, and I didn't understand shit. It's one of the two movies where I got so lost, I couldn't understand what's the point of the whole thing (the other was Southland Tales).
The horror aspect of this movie was amazing, could've done so much more, but the plot was just really confusing at times
The book explains a couple of your points: the team is all-female because they've tried previous teams that were all-male, mixed gender, etc. so it's kind of a trial-and-error thing. The crocodile is mutated in that way because animals from the sea have traveled into the rivers within the Shimmer.
As some others have also said, I think the bear is actually a really, really good movie monster.
Thats right. There are several novels about the Shimmer , and packing them into just one movie generates many questions. But sending in many teams is just dumb AF. What if the shimmer just kills EVERY human😆😆 would they send even their kids into? Dont know. Or just some drones on wheels...... Or just bombarding the shimmer with Nuclear warheads until it lets go.
@@skullyjones8234 It is implied in the novels that nothing worked to contain the Shimmer and it gradually expands until it will cover the entire planet so no they could not just bomb it. They can't send in drones because modern technology does not work inside it. I don't remember what exactly happens to modern things but I think it was something like inside the time works different so they rust/break faster and get overgrown, basically become unusable. Something like that. Since nothing worked to stop the Expansion and they can't get any information at all out of it they send it human teams by trial and error (because some actually return however they have "changed"). Obviously this was done to kind of explain the suicide missions otherwise it would be a boring story.
I just wanna know why they didnt take the beach route to get to the lighthouse in the first place. They never said they needed to go the same route as others or that they needed to recover data from the old HQ. The beach is obviously safer and impossible to get lost.
Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot, but then I'd love to be a tree when I grow up. I could retire to the country and just hang out and photosynthesize. Be nice to still get wood way into my old age.
@@lurker993 Good point. I thought the same thing. Perhaps they tried and sharks with legs came out of the water and attacked teams who tried it first? lol. I always thought it was a missed opportunity to not show us how the shimmer effected ocean going life. I must admit though, this one of the only Drinker videos I disagree with. I absolutely loved the film
"discount Michelle Rodriquez"
So discount discount Linda Hamilton?
She had to stack a lotta coupons to get to where she is today.
Thrift store Linda Hamilton
No, Vasquez.
Mmm, Michelle Rodriguez. There’s a gal I wouldn’t mind having a wrestling match with.
Discount discount discount Sigourney weaver?
Good or bad, this movie will always have a special place in my heart because after randomly coming across it and watching it, I took to youtube to see if there were any interesting breakdowns. And that is how I discovered the drinker : )
If this movie will always have a special place in your heart, than maybe it isn't bad? Maybe you should stop listening this dude who absolutly missed the point of the movie too?
@@funboy3992 Bad things can still be enjoyed despite their shittiness, or even because of it. How else could explain anyone liking the Shadow the Hedgehog game (myself included)?
@@V742 I didn't play the game you're talking about. What you are saying here can be true, but in this situation it is not. This dude's review is just bad. I'm not even talking about him trying to find a feministic ideas in this movie. Just from the moment when he started criticizing the moment when main character's husband don't remember what happend to him on a secret mission, I began to resent
a lot of these questions have answers if you've read the book
The bear very much felt more akin to a Wendigo/Skinwalker. With it having a skull for its head, imitating voices, and being intelligent.
Good observation.
I have heard about skinwalkers recently, can someone explain what they are and do?
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Skin walkers are native American folklore. They are usually shamans that have the ability to shapeshift. They are told to be evil and mark their victims. Marked one is troubled by this entity and can cause death too.
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 WEREWOLVES poon
Allow me to shed some light on this situation. Skinwalkers are human beings who turn into wolves or bears and back again through sorcery. Basically a case of lycanthropy. The Wendigo is a little more interesting, it's a beast that is created by human beings indulging in cannibalism, and is cursed to always be hungry. It has traits of both a human and a deer, and has gnawed off the skin around it's own face in a bid to satisfy its own hungriness. The beast in this film is closer to a wendigo than a skin walker, since it has exposed skull and shares the wendigo's ability to speak with a human voice. The only similarity it has to a skinwalker is the shape of a bear.
" It's Dumber Than You Think"
This goes for pretty much every movie in the past 5 years.
There's been good and even great movies in the past 5 years. They're just hard to see under the shit ones.
Hereditary, Tenet. Two whole movies.
I think I would have to agree (sadly) I mean there have been some decent ones here & there..but I honestly can't say there have been true stand out films lately..hollywood nowadays fall way short of any type of Real entertainment..it's just seems HollyWierd is get'n weirder & weirder 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️💨😐😐😐
Oh, so you’ve watched every film since 2015? Please elaborate.
I 99.2% agree with you!
I just found out that this movie was supposed to be a metaphor for the different ways cancer can affect a person. I went back and rewatched it after I heard that. It was a totally different experience seeing it with that stuff in mind.
Yeah and its just as stupid
Agreed with it all. I'd like to add that I had the feeling that the movie was preachy about the world being better with only plants and animals and no humans. Can't remember very well, I only know that I hated it.
"Natalie Portperson"
"Discount Michelle Rodriguez"
"The shitter"
"I DON'T KNOW"
It makes me wonder what Gina’s relationship is with Michelle!
Gina Rodriguez is the actress who The Drinker called discount Michelle Rodriguez, and I though that was quite humorous.
By the way, did some research, and turns out she is not.
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lmaooo I love this channel
isn't michelle rodriguez just a discount herself? maybe she is bargain bin rodriguez
It’s PortMA’AM
Tessa Thompson turning into a tree was clearly an allegory for her wooden acting
They still can self reflect
I usually really like your takes on things, especially modern Trek and the like. But this film was legit pretty good.
yes and the shark croc thing can be easily explained simce the shimmer was on the coastline and crocs are known to wander into sea of they are that close...plus all the rest wasnt that high brow but i absolutely loved it...its well paced and really unsettling
I agree. I think it's okay for people to have differing opinions. I rented this movie from Redbox twice because I liked it so much. I don't even know if I'd call it a "good movie". I just enjoyed the experience.
3:55 wait isn’t this also what Hollywood keeps doing? “”Well we made this one film that no one liked so it flopped at the cinema but if we keep doing it sooner or later they will have to watch it...... right?””
This film is just the product of someone vaguely describing the plot of “Stalker” over the phone to someone else.
that was fkn spot on XDDDD hahaah
I think you mean Roadside Picnic
@@jmarra07 Yes, Stalker is more or less an adaptation of that book, Mr Intellectual Man.
@@jmarra07 Strugatsky brothers wrote the book and the story of stalker, which ofc its based on the book. same concept
"Annihilation" is basically dumbed-down Tarkovsky for Americans.
Portperson 🤣🤣🤣
I wish someone would call her that to her face!
"You're name is insensitive to all genders!!!"
Her name really has no place in 2020. 😂
you are name
But person has "son" in it
Not even her real name dum dums.
@@Eldritch-1 riiiight, and I suppose you would have me believe the moon is made of bees.
"And then Tessa Thompson says f*** it and turns into a tree" - Drinker, never change brother :D
He clearly wasn't paying attention to the movie or is pretending not to understand
This is what I thought throughout the vid as well. It does seem odd to hate on a contemporary classic for all the wrong reasons, though it has been proven that negative engagement with popular media actually generates more attention and views overall, so this review really calls into question whether this guy even cares to make realistic and fair reviews for films (or is trying to be "critical" which he must thinks means being negative) or if it's just easier for him to piss on a good film and hope that a few quips will make up for a lack of reasonable engagement with the media. Great film, excellent books as well.
Not wearing hazmats suites is what killed me.
ikr...esp when natalie portperson says it cud be cz of radition poisoning his husband had multiple organ failures
or why didn't they just take a boat to the lighthouse from the beginning... so many plot holes
"Suites" oh the irony 😂😂😂
@@ironmonkey1512 Ah, you see, that's because the writers are trying to be "clever" and their own script proves them to be dumb.
They try to make you believe they don't exactly know where the centre of the Shitter is, despite making it very clear at the start of the movie that the Shitter was actually pretty small to begin with and then started expanding, which means they can pretty accurately pinpoint where the meteor crashed.
It killed them as well.
The books had some really interesting ideas, and a disappointing ending. Guess which aspect they adapted?
The Area X trilogy was amazing, this movie was trash. lol
I liked only the first book
You guessed it.
Frank Stallone
@@johngaltspeaking213 you know what, you’re a real jerk!
@@joelsefur666 really? I loved the ideas of the first one, but book two was filler, literally nothing happened. I couldn't even get through the first half of book three it was so dumb.
Therapist: American Drinker doesn’t exist, he can’t hurt you.
American Drinker: 5:22
I think it helps to have read the book that the movie is based on to fully comprehend what's going on, but even without reading the series, you can still get some of the answers to the questions asked by critical drinker. I say some because, as with most if not all cosmic horror stories, not all questions will be answered.
My friend put it best: "Annihilation is a beautiful heap of nonsense"
I'd like to know how the title relates to *anything* in the movie, aside from a vague threat of alien menace. ='[.]'=
It is a beautiful looking movie
@@Raycheetah In physics annihilation is the conversion of matter into energy. That's what happens in the movie.
Annihilation is a crap version of Lovecraft's The Colour Out of Space
@@ministryoftruth8499 There was a Nicholas Cage movie based on Colour Out of Space. Had some good things and several bad things...
The book the movie is based on is really good, and gradually reveals most of its secrets. There's also a poetry inside it that is completely absent from the film, bar some of the visuals. I think an adaptation would work much better as a series. A quick summary of the story would be something like this: an alien crashed into the planet 50 years ago, housed inside some kind of "prism". This prism breaks light, and shifts/morphs whatever it comes into contact with, mutating everything inside the shimmer. The shimmer expands as the range (intensity?) of the prism grows. The shiver not only influences whatever is inside, but also tries to copy and morph into it, so it can become more powerful by and increase its range by spreading ever more rapidly. And humanity can't seem to stop this infestation, losing who or whatever comes into contact with it. Except for the Port-person (I see what you did there) character, who is actually the first mutated entity created out of a human that is both self-aware and able to sustain itself outside of the shimmer without falling apart (unlike her former husband, who was merely a shell pretenting to be the man by the time he arrived at her doorstep).
As a self-conscious being that is both alien and human, Portperson realizes that she needs to go back inside to communicate with the alien, so she can figure out a way to stop it from destroying all it comes into contact with. To find some sort of solution to its predicament, being stuck on this planet by itself, with no way out, and no real way to communicate. But I guess the film never got there. Which is a shame really. So read the books instead!
That is what is on the surface. Here is what it's really about in a nutshell… Annihilation is like a modern war movie. The journey (the pain) you experience changes you in such a way that can never really go home again in that you will never see anyone (especially friends or family) or anything the same way again because of the changes the pain has made in you. The doppelgänger at the end represents her pain which she defeats and ultimately get to go home. She goes home, but the pain the journey itself has caused has changed her and her husband forever.
@@phadrus4435 I was simply describing the plot, not the thematic core. Something I found the film conveys quite poorly, by being opaque to a fault. Both the book and the film did remind me a lot of Apocalypse Now (and The Heart of Darkness on which it is based) , which explores similar themes: a journey to a world that changes one forever, to travel beyond the point of no return and humanity, to lose oneself and come out a different person. In a way, I like your description of the film better than the film itself. Which unfortunately falls short of the book it is based on, which I love dearly.
Well put. I loved the books, reading them was a bit little walking in a fog but by the end most of it cleared out and you can see the overall picture. There were some "scenes" that I went back and read a few times (something I almost never do when reading), like for example the first event at the pub (third book). Damn, that was some intense writing.
The book was a chore, and what little I read of the second was worse.
Plot points (contrivances) being explained more thoroughly doesn't actually help all that much. Less loose ends, sure, but like another commenter said, it is effectively an anthology that got merged. CT himself points it out, through the _Wouldn't It Be Cool_ section of the video.
The writing, on the a technical level, was incredibly dry. None of the characters felt like people, just vehicles for an idea, and predestined to end badly. The Black Guy Always Dies First sort of deal, except it's everyone and they're all made of cardboard. It's not possible to get invested into a character (let alone many) if you know there is mind-fuckery going on, since all actions become suspect, all motives become esoteric.
It's like _Redshirts_ and _House of Leaves_ had a baby, but not in a good way.
@@axelord4ever I'm sorry to hear that. I read all three back to back, so I can't say i share your perspective. Instead I found them challenging and philosophical, an exploration of identity, of man vs nature, as what was mentioned above. There was a beauty to this savage new reality, this fusion of local and foreign. The second book was very interesting because it showed the complete opposite of the first book: a stale, rigid world of bureaucracy, hiding as many secrets as the first book. The third felt like the fusion of both worlds, the familiar trying to come to terms with the unknown, well aware both sides are ill equiped to ever truly understand each other, but having to find a way to coexist regardless.
LOVE this movie….loved the score, the visuals, the ambiguity of the outcome, all of it. Just brilliant cosmic horror and I’m so happy all the top comments agree 🙌
This movie is more about cheating on your partner, becoming a chameleon with lies, not being able to cover up your sins, self destruction and recreation, and relationships then it is about sci-fi. The shimmer, the creatures, the alien are all metaphors
I watched this on a flight to Japan and it actually made the flight LONGER.
Probably because the pilots were watching the movie too and got so bored they missed and had to go around again.
lol, good one
Ayyeee, same. That movie along with 4 others because of that 13 hours flight lol
I had to watch it in two sits, I simply couldn't handle the stupidity of the plot and characters
😂😂😂😂
Perhaps the book is better?...
One time I heard somebody pronounce the word as "Annie-high-lation" and that's been stuck in my head ever since when thinking about this movie.
Try saying Anihilation Nation Station 10 times fast.
This is one video where I can´t agree at all. Annihilation was a really interesting movie and I don´t see a reason why everything needs to be explained. It´s a movie that means to deliberately keep you questioning things as even the characters experience something inhuman and out of this world to which they have no answers for.
@@zogwort1522
Based and Tarkovsky-pilled.
Where is that clip of the exploding toilet from? I remember seeing it ages ago but can't remember the show.
It's pretty incredible that Natalie Portperson's best acting was when she was 12.
The Professional was SUCH an awesome movie.
@@asdf51501 It was. I usually can not stand kids in movies, but she did a great job. She's gotten worse with every role since!
She peaked too early
@@abark The whole point was that she had to grow up fast in her life, so she was thinking of herself as a young adult, and acted like one. That was a solid performance. The next thing I saw her in was Star Wars Episode 1, where she was kind of not so great, and that was in the 90s. I can't think of a good movie now besides possibly Star Wars Episode 1 which really wasn't, but it's a masterpiece compared to Disney's crap they've been putting out in my opinion. I totally agree with you. :)
Now, it seems she just does woke nonsense and complains when men don't watch her movies.
She was ok in Garden State.
You missed some horribly stupid things: They already sent in several expeditions into the shimmer. And when her husband returns they put him into quarantine.
HOWEVER: when the team goes into the shimmer they are equipped like going to a hiking tour. When me and some buddies watched this movie some months ago, we started yelling "hazard suit" because it was so obvious. Also: they know it affects communication. Well, if you already sent in several teams and they got lost, how about trying to get a landline in there? They could do it in WW2, so why not in this movie? Also: They know their target is at the beach... did nobody ever try to get there by ship?!
This movie is full of absurdities and stupidity!
@TomeOfBattle it's worth it for the tension buildup and soundtrack alone.
Nah, its just you thats stupid.
Your the type that doesnt buy a delicious crunchy apple cause it has a tiny blemish on it....Peter perfect, are ya...the movie's a classic, idiot...
@@karenmcdonald4263 Little tip for you: don't call people stupid, and then immediately mix up your/you're... just sayin'...
The alligator and the bear were the best parts of the movie.
@@karenmcdonald4263
1) I'm allergic to apples so I wouldn't even buy shiny ones.
2) I can appreciate bad movies, even the ones with ridiculous setups. But those setups are consitent in themselves.
This movie is figuratively a polished turd. It's a trash movie with a Hollywood polish.
“I fear no man. But that thing (the creature that used to be a bear and one of the human characters)? It scares me.”
as an allegory for cancer the movie does well to leave so many unanswered questions. the shimmer invades our world like cancer invades its host. any attempts on our part to understand why it happens or what we can do about it are thwarted because cancer doesn't 'think' in those rational terms, it simply does.
this film is a creepy and effective take on our own powerlessness when faced by the scarier parts of our own lives.
still a good review though and i definitely agree about the refreshing lack of gender politics at play.
I do like the horrifying bear, that was genuinely terrifying.
It's even scarier when you realize it assimilates anything it eats.
The bear should have been the focus of the movie. It was already the emotional catharsis. Everything after that felt like epilogue, like hobbits jumping up and down on Frodo's bed.
But it looks as if they took it from the 1979 film Prophecy. So like the alkie said its bits strung together. The only thing memorable about that film is the poster that was a ripoff of the ALIEN egg poster and the exploding yellow sleeping bag scene.
the only take away from this movie, a monster bear.
I couldn't stop laughing at the "I don't know[s]"
it was fun in small doses but when he spammed them at the end it got old real quick
Good drinking game every time mr poe says so
I hope he uses this line for every video from now on
It's a movie that requires the audience to think a little bit instead of having it spoonfed to them.
So, of course you don't like it.
I don't know if I've ever had this much contempt for a random internet stranger who hasn't personally insulted me. God.
"wouldn't it be cool if..." Is how people talk about entertainment now.
Well yeah, because entertainment now isn't cool.
A big emphasis on the word 'if'
Pretty much explains the last Star Wars trilogy.
The Drinker: "These are cool ideas, but unfortunately they have to be supported by a strong, intelligent story that draws you in, keeps you invested and delivers a satisfying payoff that ties everything together".
Any Hollywood producer: "I don't know the meaning of 11 of these words".
Read this the moment he said " these are cool ideas"...😆
Basically, Metaphors and Symbolism by themselves don't make a great experience. There has to be a relatable, substantial story that has a strong foundation to build off of, otherwise you're just left with pointless, pretentious fluff that doesn't really go anywhere.
Incidentally, I recently found out that like half of Event Horizon was cut from the final film for being too scary or some limp-penised reason. It’s like meeting someone really cool at a party that no one else seems to realize is cool and then never seeing them again, but then finding out that they were actually twice as cool as you realized-- well I suck at analogies, CD, but you get it.
It is visual poetry. The entire film is an emotional metaphor. Fans were misled by marketing that sold the film as being sci-fi horror. It is about grief, relationships, and self-destruction.
The book is great if u haven't read it
This is the greatest cosmic horror movie in decades.
@@jarrensmith1060 Arrival is better than this
@@jarrensmith1060yeah I'm surprised he didn't like the movie. Maybe bc it needed the audience to come up with theories as to explain supposed plot holes? This move really intrigued me
But still, this movie has too many plot holes and absurdity.
Ever since that cringey “They fly now!” line from the rise of Skywalker, it’s just been hard to take Poe seriously wherever he appears.
Even the actor himself thinks that line was pretty dumb.
he actually was in that movie?!
@@cyborgparrot1996 do actors not have any say in what goes in the script?
@@heintz256 The high ranking ones do as they can pick their movies, but even that has it's extent at the fine line between synonyms and script rewrites.
Give him a chance to shine in his acting career. People likes to make fun of "I have the high ground" to Ewan and he still success till this days and he seems like he's having fun with it.
Can you review "the 13th Warrior" That movie is underrated.
I've been explaining this movie to people, no ones ever seen it! Awesome film! Lol
I said you dig like a dawg!!
@@aaronlockley9207
"You could have killed him at will! Why deception?"
@@andrzejadamowicz3753 because deception is the POINT
this is one of my favorite films
Yea I disagree with the Drinker. This movie doesn't spoon-feed you the answers. The movie reminds me of 2001 with the space crew going to investigate the Monolith. I honestly feel people give the Drinker more credit than he deserves.
Music in this movie is on God level
Now this composer work on Uzumaki of Ito Junji
This movie would’ve been a good, 45 minute, sci fi anthology show episode.
Exactly.
The Rise of Palpatine really has broken Poe, then again it was a miracle he could even make cohesive sentences at all after TLJ.
Annihilation came out before TLJ though
@@DeVron001 I don't feel so well.....
I think playing the purple X-men villain is what did him in
I love the Drinker, but this is one of those movies he shit on for no reason. 🤷🏻♂️
It's a sci-fi arthouse horror and I loved it for that
the frigging bear scared the piss out of me. im never going into a forest ever again. XD
🥴🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "I don't feel very well" caught me off guard
Hey! great to see you here
Love the channel
I was ready to say "I don't know" with him
I think this whole film did!
We need a video crossover between the Drinker and you
This movie's plot sounds like a cheapass version of the "Roadside Picnic" by Strugatsky brothers...
@Beverly Mandahl read The Southern Reach trilogy - the actual books this film was very loosely based on.
Get out of here STALKER :P
It’s more based on Lovecraft’a Color out of Space than it’s source material
Thank you! that's what I was thinking. Roadside Picnic has great world building, mystery and good characters. This is just a Hollywood girl power flick. Go watch Stalker, million times better.
I saw S.T.A.L.K.E.R. a few months before I watched this movie and they are very similar.
Just because a movie has a mostly female cast doesn't mean it's bad drinker. Annihilation was amazing.
It was fuckin awesome
It was not amazing but it was okay better then average, and the all female cast is really irrelevant they didn’t pander it so it worked out okay
@@lonemaus562 different strokes I guess... I loved it. It was scary, intriguing, philosophical and had a bit of an adventure vibe. Would love to see more horror movies like that.
He actually praised the team and said that they functioned like logical professionals under a stressful situation.
@@matthew1882 yeah my point is the whole movie was great