Im def pro library with a crazy collection of new lore books that do lore similar to the channel.. I think an ancient lost library of lore is also cool for “forbidden knowledge” surrounding daedra, necromancy, darker magic, alchemy, enchanting, and darker lore topics 👌🏽
You can join knightly orders in Daggerfall, which I recommend trying out if you've never played it. And I agree: I hope they bring that feature back in future games!
@@garrettcreede1674 Yeah, they may require a little extra patience at first, but I think all three of the early TES games are worth it. :) Here's more info about Daggerfall's knightly orders for anyone interested: en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Knightly_Orders
@@DavidCDrake I've tried to replay the early games but I never get very far. Daggerfall has been partially remade on the Skyrim engine, think it's called Skygerfall.
You missed several knightly orders: - Order of the Lily (Knightly arm of the House of Dibella) - The Kynaran Order (Knightly arm of the Temple of Kynareth) - Maran Knights (Knightly arm of the Benevolence of Mara) - Order of the Lamp (Knightly order dedicated to the protection of the Mages Guild)
I've created a "Knightly" Order for Kynareth, my favorite Divine. They are called the Rangers of the Wind and they protect the forests and mountains. Like historical Rangers, they cull poaching and patrol the forests dispatching any bandits and demons/hostile creatures that may harm nearby settlements. It's a humble build and gratifying playthrough which really (depending on your own personal RP) requires no major quests but the small side quest of restoring the Gildergreen. Of course you'll want to get the sapling instead of forcing the Eldergleam to bleed. It's a good build for those that want a mercenary run but can't let themselves be a harsh person. If you use Alternate Start it's good to begin either the Hunting in the Woods option if you're wanting to complete the core quest or Left for Dead and maybe roleplay that you woke to wind kissing your cheek and Kynareth whispering her tune in your ear.
Cool! I've played as a knight of the circle clearing dungeons across Skyrim. There is a lot of work to be done in terms of fighting the dead and necromancy. I think there was a templar order of Kynareth in TES:Daggerfall en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Kynaran_Order
@@charliebottom_ramen498 A handsome young Breton with high speechcraft and Illusion, good with a bow but also a blade, and a great passion for art, beauty, and chivalry.
Very nice. That'll be a fun one! I have one for Arkay, he's in the Dawnguard, and one for Kynareth who I'm not involving with anyone but his wife, Angi, who I use mods to marry
Gonna go full nerd here, but just for fun, I made my own knightly order in Skyrim. I used the Become High King mod. With that, you can appoint NPCs to be "rangers" and scour the land for evil or "heroes" who train and serve as warriors in the army. I made each one a custom set of Stahlrim armor, enchanted to be called Royal Knight Armor, along with enchanted signet rings. Any warrior who serves as a housecarl or stewart got an gold emerald ring and is a member of the Knight-Guard. The rangers all got gold sapphire rings and are the Knight-Rangers. The Knight-Heroes all got gold diamond rings. Each knight also has either a legendary weapon or one I made using a mod to make it unique. Nerdy, I know. But I thought it was cool.
THE BLADES!!! - Dragonslayers and Emporer Protectors, Exclusive and Loyal - You don't get much more Knightly than that. & THE KNIGHT-PALADINS OF AURIEL!!! - There is even one still alive as of 4E201 - come on, it's even in the name.
@@williampaulsinghharika2627 thays why even on xbox and ps4 and of course my pc I use a mod where u put your foot down and say no. And the quest is completed after that. You stay in the order and parthunax alive. Plus you're still welcomed at both places and can still get quest from both as well. It's call the parthounax dilemma. It's got a pic of him on the dragon wall. It's a small mod I recommend
The Kynaran Order, the Maran Knights, and the Order of the Lily, the three knighthoods for the Divines Kynareth, Mara, and Dibella. They appeared in Daggerfall and they have their own wiki pages (though the Kynaran Order only has a stub).
“A Knight is sworn to valor. His heart knows only virtue. His blade defends the helpless. His might upholds the weak. His words speak only truth. His wrath undoes the wicked. The right can never die, If one Knight still recalls. The words are not forgotten, If one voice speaks them clear. The code forever shines, If one heart holds it bright."
The Knights of the Order of the Lily; The House of Dibella is the noblest institution in Tamriel, we of the Order of the Lily firmly are devoted to its cause. Its only fault is that the priests and priestesses within are often too consumed with the propagation of beauty to protect themselves adequately. That is the sacred cause of the Order of the Lily. We protect the House and receive the training and blessings of clerics of equal rank. I can think of no better reason to fight than the cause of beauty. They have fought in several conflicts between the 3rd and 4th Age. The Oblivion Crisis. The Blood War in High Rock The Nordic Breton war in the Reach
I’ve always wanted to see Bethesda put something out that follows a knights story after all Skyrim’s more about a Nordic /Viking story but if they had something similar that gives a tale of a knight that show them reaching out to all kinds of gamer classes
Bethesda doesn’t really care about lore. This one topic alone shows how much great lore there is and what have Bethesda done with it in a post-Morrowind world? The original creators of the Elder Scrolls including a lot of the lore, are making their own game. It’ll be a while but I look forward to seeing how seriously they’ll take the lore and implement it in their game.
One you might've forgotten was the Knight-Paladins of Auriel: Pushed to the edge of extinction by Ysgramor and his returning northmen in retribution for the massacre of Saarthal, the Forgotten Vale, a long-lost valley tucked away in the mountains between High Rock and Skyrim, was host to not only one of the last centers of the ancient Falmer's worship to their patron deity of Auriel, but it was also one of the last bastions of their very civilization. And dutifully standing watch over this isolated Chantry of Auriel is Knight-Paladin Gelebor. I say this is a group you *might have* missed, because whether he was a part of a formal knightly order is unclear, but he does mention having led a small force of paladins in defense of the Chantry around the time the Snow Elves' twisted, degenerated kin assaulted the Vale in the First Era. As it stands in the wake of the Last Dragonborn's quest for the legendary Bow of Auriel in the early second century off the 4th Era, Gelebor is now last of both his order and his kind within Skyrim. Regardless, he continues his lonely vigil in service to Auriel, with only the thought and the hope that more of his people yet survive somewhere out there to bring him some small measure of peace...
I would say The Blades - Yes, Protectors of the Emporer, the Empire, and Dragonslayers. The Dawnguard - probably not, The Dawnguard are more like a guild that focuses on Vampires.
Derp Mcgerp Knights tend to be noble rich and honorable soldiers. And also being deeply religious. Atleast in the real world. In elder scrolls it’s incredibly similar The dawn guard is definitely not knightly. I think of the dawnguard as more mercenary like. But with a more religious purpose. They may not exactly directly worship a god (stendarr) but they are carrying out his will by hunting vampires. If you look at the dawngaurd armor. It’s clearly not knightly. In elder scrolls and in the real world. Knights tend to wear plate armor. It was expensive and required a fine smith to make. Incredibly expensive, and light (it was 25kg dispersed all over the body, so it was light, you could roll and run and even mount a horse easily) it was beautiful armor aswell. The dawnguard armor isn’t pretty, it is efficient though. It is a brigadine or a coat of plates (has metal inside of it) and wears a gambeson under it, and wears plenty of padded leather. Clearly not made to show off wealth. It’s much more soldier like than noble like. And also, if you listen how the dawnguard talk. They clearly don’t care about chivalry or anything. You can even see a bed roll with dawnguard gear near a umm.... a copy of the lusty Argonian maid... so clearly, they are not very chivalrous. Knights are noble and chivalrous The dawnguard are brutal, and efficient. They don’t care about fairy tales or a maiden they’re fighting for. They want their mission to be done. But the goal of the dawnguard has a pretty knightly and fantastic goal.
Alright so this video is great, but Drew my boy I would suggest some tips from the "vocal toolbox," the fact that every sentence ends with the same intonation makes it sound like a really long and tired prayer. It was just a little hard paying attention of listening for very long like that. Despite that though, I loved the video and I've always been fascinated by knight orders in our favorite game universe, so I stuck with it. Just a smol suggestion for future vids, take it or leave it. Great work!
much as I love you guys, you're not entirely correct when it comes to knighthood, knights are not sworn to serve god(every person were held to certain Christian standards, with some deviation depending on social standing) the reason the templars were, so unique and beloved was because they were the first knight order sworn to only god(and to the pope) not answerable to lords and kings.
Everybody knows the only good knight faction is the knights of the thorn. Small as a platoon but attacks like a legion. Daedra quiver before their rallying cry. The most exalted knightly order, led by Sir Indarys himself. HUZZAH!
The Blades are referred to as Knights in TESIV and in TESIII the senior leadership of the Legion are Knights. I think the player can become Knight of the Imperial Dragon in both.
Remember chivalry isn't a set of laws, but guidelines. A little pillaging of another hold or land is healthy, and it's okay to send someone else to trigger a possible trap in your place. Stay upper class fellow knights, and may your codpieces be obnoxious. ...wait sadly nobody has made codpieces for Skyrim. :C 14:27 Let's all appreciate that a guy magically gibbed himself so he didn't become undead.
Dibella has an order though, doesn't she? I seem to recall reading it on a wiki somewhere. Right. The Order of the Lily. Kind of lame as far as Knights go but still. Bet Mara has an order of Knights too.
The fact that these Gods are tengible and REAL will keep these knights in line. No taking advantage of commoners no rape etc. Of course there would be bad apples but overall they HAVE to stay by those virtues. And I like knighthood is different than our world.
Well you guys have persuaded me to make a Knight style build going to be the youngest daughter of a Breton Lord's son and Imperial Count's daughter, on both her mother's and father's side would have many of those who are knights, mages, lords and ladies due to her family been quite wealthy she is educated in reading, writing, swordplay, restoration magic, enchanting and she even took up smithing believing that one should look after their weapons and armour
I got an interesting theory about Argonians and I hope you want to hear it. Maybe other people think the same but I don't know so far Argonians are actually the most powerful race but the hist trees have magical powers which drains the power of the Argonians when Argonians are born they drink hist tree sap like you guys said in one of your videos this could be the moment their powers are drained and when the deadra attacked the hist trees gave the Argonians their powers back so the deadra would leave the trees alone of course argonians believe the hist is good because they tell them the future and this could also lead the hist to let the Argonians believe the hist created them. But I think the Argonians came from the dragons the most ancient race and evolved to live in more crowded areas like swamps. Really thank you for reading this ps Argonians don't have wings but water breathing because the wings are useless in the swamp and the water breathing is more useful for getting food and they can't breath fire or ice etc. Because they consumed the hist sap but some Argonians still show genetics of dragons..
Viridity one, I believe they’re referred to as the Knights of the Crypt (colloquially referred to as “Spellknights”) and they’ve got some interesting lore relating to body/spirit modification via supernatural means, as the thing they believe to be the greatest threat to mortals - that’s why they hunt and kill briar hearts on site
did you mention the order of the lily which is dibellas all female knight/cleric order i know they aren't purely knights by definition but their description reads similar to the akatosh knights
I love a good Tale involving Knights. Bravo bravo I think this may be the best one yet at least in my opinion. I would like to see more Knights in the Elder Scrolls.
Hello all at Fudgemuppet! I have been watching your videos for several years and have been more than entertained and fascinated. Anyway, I can't believe why I haven wondered this before, and my question is: *"Why is your channel called"FudgeMuppet" ?*
So then Ulfric is a knight? He pledged himself to talos and to fight essentially in his name since that's what the stormcloaks are fighting for as a whole.
What about the order of Talos which provably their knights are the Blades and the higher rankers of the Imperial legion like the Knight of the Imperial Dragon, Knight Paladins etc
I hope we get some kind of confirmation or at least passing mention as to what became of the second order of the Knights of the Nine in TESVI. As far as I know, there is no lore whatsoever as to their fate after Oblivion. Did they dispand again after the Champion of Cyrodiil disappeared? Were they killed off or forcefully disbanded by the Thalmor during/after the Great War like the Blades? Or did they just drop Talos and become the Knights of the Eight again (I sincerely hope the latter isn't the case)? So many ways their story could have gone, and yet we know NOTHING.
probably what happened is they got mostly destroyed during a great crusade during the great war and the survivors got back to the priory of the nine and hid the armor of pelinal
Spare me your empty little compliments, girl ... and your ser's. I am no knight. I spit on them and their vows. My brother is a knight. -Sandor, to Sansa Stark
If I could join any one of these orders, I’d join the Resolutions, to serve my eternal savior, and long time favorite patron Divine, my main man, Zenithar 😎✊😎✊😎
You didn’t mention that the Knights of True Horn were rebuilt in Cyrodiil after their destruction as per lore provided by the Battlehorn DLC for TES IV
I found recently while using a religion mod is Skyrim that the Vigilants of Stendarr have been attacking me on sight despite worshiping Akatosh, a fellow aedra
I always wondered what happened to the knights of order when jyggalag turned into Sheogorath. The essence of who they are/were should be changed since they were so tightly tied to jyggalag's mind. And if they didn't change I wonder why that is. Wouldn't it be so much better to have knights of madness watching over your mad kingdom instead of two other less faithful daedra races.
The Dawnguard are more of a mercenary guild that specializes in vampires than a holy order. True, a few of its members are former Vigilants, but they don't enforce or even encourage any type of reverence for Stendarr, Arkay or any other deity.
I still strongly believe that TES6 storyline will take us to be the avatar of Ebonarm where we need to quell the different orders of knights in Daggerfall and solve their political issues. Then we also will have to deal with warriors from Redguard that are fighting the Thalmor who are backed by certain nobles of High Rock. Then to the mountains where we need to deal with the Orcs and the reformation of Orsinium and possibly the purification of Malacath into Trinimac. Then whatever we descide between each story it comes together in the end where if we formed allies or enemies we have a huge battle with the resurgence of the Underking and an undead legion that aims to take the land. The end.
I have a question in the time oblivion when the aldmarain domainian where are the knights of Tamriel in times of strife they would have turned the tide of cyradil
YOU FORGOT THE ORDER OF THE LILY(DIBELLA) AND THE MARAN KNIGHTS!(Mara) Speaking of that, you guys could make a video talking about the Strange Daedric Runes found in Azerothian Tombstones in warcraft 3 reforged. Along with the strange accurate pre-c0da text from 2007 predicting Dawnguard and Nocturnal's realm, also a new light about the fate of the surviving Snow elves becoming fucking Night elves, or Noxmer. Someone even made a post about it on /r/teslore, and its good
YOU FORGOT THE ORDER OF THE LAMP!!! jk but seriously the order of the lamp was a knightly order created by vanus when he realised mercenary's didnt care for the safety of the mages guild so he created this order to be the protectors of the mages guild.
I’m gonna post a comment now and then update at the end to see if they included the Knights of the Crypt from Highrock Will report back at the end! EDIT: No mention! They must be quite new to the lore then, since they only turned up, to my memory, in the Creation Club Spell Knight DLC!
Creation club add-ons are considered mods, not officially canon dlc like Dawnguard or Dragonborn. Don't pay for mods, there's thousands of free mods on Nexus and other websites that are usually better quality. If they ever put Creation Club stuff on sale for free then download it. Its not worth actually paying for.
@@TheCrypto34 Creation Club content is considered "mini-DLC" because the last time Bethesda tried to capitalize on the modding community, it was called "paid mods" which people called out. Whether or not Creation Club content is considered canon, I don't know, but I do agree that no one should bother with buying stuff from there when you can often get better content with free mods on the Steam Workshop and the Nexus.
TheCrypto34, I hear what you’re saying but there are some things you’ve assumed here. 1. I have a PC (I don’t) 2. I don’t care about achievements (I do) 3. You say it’s not worth it (that’s an opinion, one which I don’t share) I appreciate you’ve got your own ideas but I’m surprised you wouldn’t even consider console gamers in your argument
THE ORDER OF THE RADIANT HEART...oh, wait sorry, wrong game. My favorite fictional knightly order, I have often played a lost paladin of the Radiant Heart in Skyrim, I just wish a totally awesome mod-maker would make faction armor for them.
Hey man have you guys done a mounted warrior build? I’ve been using convenient horses mod, spears and weapon expansion mod, and better perks mod, and the three together could make for an awesome mounted knight build... Horse mod let’s you stat up and decorate the horse. The weapon mod adds 1h and 2h spears and halberds with longer reach for mounted combat. Perks to make the build more viable. Just curious, I’ve been trying this out as a mounted Nordic Paladin and WOWEEE it’s a fun way to play. Love the work you do, keep it up.
Also been using a restoration and illusion build that focuses on buffing your allies and letting them stomp butt while you stay back and provide support.
The problem with horse builds are they aren’t useful in dungeons or caves, which are basically 90%+ of the combat scenarios in game. But, they are fun to play in end game RP scenarios where one can just ride around smashing giants, combating mammoths, and eradicating the undead (and their necromantic masters).
Missing Eye Of Odin see I haven’t had too much of an issue with dungeons... It does suck not to have your horse, but I usually sword and board my way through them with a “squire” for company. But you’re right, when you’re out in the open... blasting your way through a mob of enemies on your horse, sending them all flying. It’s pretty epic.
BlueSkull it does 😂 It adds: -short swords -spears 1 and 2handed -halberds 2h -staffs 2h -mauls -spiked clubs -hatchets It’s simple but I enjoy it, especially that these variants spawn on enemies 👍🏼
I want the next Elder Scrolls to have a library in a major town where you guys are voiced actors teaching all players lore.
Someone send a petition to Todd Howard
Fudgemuppets voice
Im def pro library with a crazy collection of new lore books that do lore similar to the channel.. I think an ancient lost library of lore is also cool for “forbidden knowledge” surrounding daedra, necromancy, darker magic, alchemy, enchanting, and darker lore topics 👌🏽
imagine they dub Lusty argonian maid & the story of Muatra
Only if Drew and Scott are gay lovers.
Man becomes blood fountain to distract vampires absolute madlad
MADLAD
You know, jis name almost sounds like pelinal
That was the most metal thing Ive heard all week and not even remotely what I was expecting him to say.
OnTheBackOfBullets goddamn right it’s metal, do you know how much *iron* we have in our blood?🩸😏
@@realzachfluke1 *risotto nero noises*
I really wish Bethesda would implement these as join-able clans or faction
You can join them now for just $9.99!
You can join knightly orders in Daggerfall, which I recommend trying out if you've never played it. And I agree: I hope they bring that feature back in future games!
David C. Drake ya I’ve only played Skyrim and oblivion and I always here about what they have lost from the previous 2 I gotta pick them up
@@garrettcreede1674 Yeah, they may require a little extra patience at first, but I think all three of the early TES games are worth it. :) Here's more info about Daggerfall's knightly orders for anyone interested: en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Knightly_Orders
@@DavidCDrake I've tried to replay the early games but I never get very far. Daggerfall has been partially remade on the Skyrim engine, think it's called Skygerfall.
You missed several knightly orders:
- Order of the Lily (Knightly arm of the House of Dibella)
- The Kynaran Order (Knightly arm of the Temple of Kynareth)
- Maran Knights (Knightly arm of the Benevolence of Mara)
- Order of the Lamp (Knightly order dedicated to the protection of the Mages Guild)
Order of the crypt
Order of the lamp, now that sounds very interesting
@@ShineyFace1337 Moth knights.
@@justacrusaderguy3320omg YES
I've created a "Knightly" Order for Kynareth, my favorite Divine.
They are called the Rangers of the Wind and they protect the forests and mountains. Like historical Rangers, they cull poaching and patrol the forests dispatching any bandits and demons/hostile creatures that may harm nearby settlements.
It's a humble build and gratifying playthrough which really (depending on your own personal RP) requires no major quests but the small side quest of restoring the Gildergreen. Of course you'll want to get the sapling instead of forcing the Eldergleam to bleed.
It's a good build for those that want a mercenary run but can't let themselves be a harsh person. If you use Alternate Start it's good to begin either the Hunting in the Woods option if you're wanting to complete the core quest or Left for Dead and maybe roleplay that you woke to wind kissing your cheek and Kynareth whispering her tune in your ear.
Cool! I've played as a knight of the circle clearing dungeons across Skyrim. There is a lot of work to be done in terms of fighting the dead and necromancy.
I think there was a templar order of Kynareth in TES:Daggerfall
en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Kynaran_Order
I've played a Paladin of Dibella. ;-)
A Paladin of Dibella would be a great run, She is among maybe my top 5 as far as Divines go. How did you pull that off?
@@charliebottom_ramen498 A handsome young Breton with high speechcraft and Illusion, good with a bow but also a blade, and a great passion for art, beauty, and chivalry.
Very nice. That'll be a fun one! I have one for Arkay, he's in the Dawnguard, and one for Kynareth who I'm not involving with anyone but his wife, Angi, who I use mods to marry
Gonna go full nerd here, but just for fun, I made my own knightly order in Skyrim.
I used the Become High King mod. With that, you can appoint NPCs to be "rangers" and scour the land for evil or "heroes" who train and serve as warriors in the army. I made each one a custom set of Stahlrim armor, enchanted to be called Royal Knight Armor, along with enchanted signet rings. Any warrior who serves as a housecarl or stewart got an gold emerald ring and is a member of the Knight-Guard. The rangers all got gold sapphire rings and are the Knight-Rangers. The Knight-Heroes all got gold diamond rings. Each knight also has either a legendary weapon or one I made using a mod to make it unique.
Nerdy, I know. But I thought it was cool.
EPIC!
I want to do this
Crusader: We will take Summerset Isles! Deus vult!
Talos Vult!
Talos Vincit, Talos Regnat, Talos Imperat!
Huzzah retake the lands and free the oppressed Altmer! (Message brought to you by the Psijic Order)
TALOS VULT!
THE BLADES!!! - Dragonslayers and Emporer Protectors, Exclusive and Loyal - You don't get much more Knightly than that.
&
THE KNIGHT-PALADINS OF AURIEL!!! - There is even one still alive as of 4E201 - come on, it's even in the name.
lol
he asked for the angry all caps message lmao
And the order of Talos, the Knights of the Imperial Legion and i agreed with the Blades grandmaster crusaders
The blades, most loyal till skyrim when delphine believes she is the dragonborns, the rightful emperors, master and orders you around like a slave.
@@williampaulsinghharika2627 thays why even on xbox and ps4 and of course my pc I use a mod where u put your foot down and say no. And the quest is completed after that. You stay in the order and parthunax alive. Plus you're still welcomed at both places and can still get quest from both as well. It's call the parthounax dilemma. It's got a pic of him on the dragon wall. It's a small mod I recommend
The Kynaran Order, the Maran Knights, and the Order of the Lily, the three knighthoods for the Divines Kynareth, Mara, and Dibella. They appeared in Daggerfall and they have their own wiki pages (though the Kynaran Order only has a stub).
Knights of the Thorn...Cheydinhal drinking club
I was hoping someone would mention them
though being a mod he wouldnt be cannon
kratom andy Knights of the Thorn are not a mod, they’re in base game.
YOU CANNOT HANDLE MY POTIONS
lmao
Wrestle a vacuum cleaner in catacombs
Join the order of Scarab
I knew staying up till 6am would pay off
Man I would love to hear Scott talk more about real history
Same.
Bruh the opening statement about knights made my eyes water
For sure but this is Drew
Vigilant of Stendar: Violently opposed to daedra
Me: Summons dremora lord
Vigilant of Stendar: Need something?
“A Knight is sworn to valor.
His heart knows only virtue.
His blade defends the helpless.
His might upholds the weak.
His words speak only truth.
His wrath undoes the wicked.
The right can never die,
If one Knight still recalls.
The words are not forgotten,
If one voice speaks them clear.
The code forever shines,
If one heart holds it bright."
Playing a knight of Mara now. Favorite warrior build I've played so far. Tank, have followers, and heal through passive effects.
I know Knights of the Nine was a bit of a rip off in terms of cost/content but I did really enjoy what was there.
We are the Knights Who Say "N'wah!"
The ESO footage looks fantastic
Agreed And I’m not even a fan of ESO
The Knights of the Order of the Lily; The House of Dibella is the noblest institution in Tamriel, we of the Order of the Lily firmly are devoted to its cause. Its only fault is that the priests and priestesses within are often too consumed with the propagation of beauty to protect themselves adequately. That is the sacred cause of the Order of the Lily. We protect the House and receive the training and blessings of clerics of equal rank. I can think of no better reason to fight than the cause of beauty.
They have fought in several conflicts between the 3rd and 4th Age.
The Oblivion Crisis.
The Blood War in High Rock
The Nordic Breton war in the Reach
I’ve always wanted to see Bethesda put something out that follows a knights story after all Skyrim’s more about a Nordic /Viking story but if they had something similar that gives a tale of a knight that show them reaching out to all kinds of gamer classes
What about the Order of the Lamp, which protected the Mage's Guild?
They seem more like a militant arm of the Mages Guild, not really a Knights Order.
You forgot the order of Talos, the Knights of the Imperial Legion and the Blades grandmaster crusaders
Ok that intro has some pretty strong Stormlight vibes. I'm onto you, fudgemuppet
Bethesda doesn’t really care about lore. This one topic alone shows how much great lore there is and what have Bethesda done with it in a post-Morrowind world? The original creators of the Elder Scrolls including a lot of the lore, are making their own game. It’ll be a while but I look forward to seeing how seriously they’ll take the lore and implement it in their game.
old comment but its funny how most of the lore comes from tes5 but yeah you go ahead and say whatever bullshit you want to say
Why would Breton kightly orders be prominent in Oblivion or Skyrim? And there's a whole ass dlc called Knights of the Nine...
THE KNIGHTS OF THE LILLY! The knightly order defending the temples and shrines of Dibella.
One you might've forgotten was the Knight-Paladins of Auriel:
Pushed to the edge of extinction by Ysgramor and his returning northmen in retribution for the massacre of Saarthal, the Forgotten Vale, a long-lost valley tucked away in the mountains between High Rock and Skyrim, was host to not only one of the last centers of the ancient Falmer's worship to their patron deity of Auriel, but it was also one of the last bastions of their very civilization.
And dutifully standing watch over this isolated Chantry of Auriel is Knight-Paladin Gelebor.
I say this is a group you *might have* missed, because whether he was a part of a formal knightly order is unclear, but he does mention having led a small force of paladins in defense of the Chantry around the time the Snow Elves' twisted, degenerated kin assaulted the Vale in the First Era.
As it stands in the wake of the Last Dragonborn's quest for the legendary Bow of Auriel in the early second century off the 4th Era, Gelebor is now last of both his order and his kind within Skyrim. Regardless, he continues his lonely vigil in service to Auriel, with only the thought and the hope that more of his people yet survive somewhere out there to bring him some small measure of peace...
Aren’t the Blades and the Dawnguard technically knights too
I would say The Blades - Yes, Protectors of the Emporer, the Empire, and Dragonslayers. The Dawnguard - probably not, The Dawnguard are more like a guild that focuses on Vampires.
the dawguard are hunters and the blades are spys
Derp Mcgerp Knights tend to be noble rich and honorable soldiers. And also being deeply religious. Atleast in the real world. In elder scrolls it’s incredibly similar
The dawn guard is definitely not knightly.
I think of the dawnguard as more mercenary like. But with a more religious purpose. They may not exactly directly worship a god (stendarr) but they are carrying out his will by hunting vampires.
If you look at the dawngaurd armor. It’s clearly not knightly. In elder scrolls and in the real world. Knights tend to wear plate armor. It was expensive and required a fine smith to make. Incredibly expensive, and light (it was 25kg dispersed all over the body, so it was light, you could roll and run and even mount a horse easily) it was beautiful armor aswell. The dawnguard armor isn’t pretty, it is efficient though. It is a brigadine or a coat of plates (has metal inside of it) and wears a gambeson under it, and wears plenty of padded leather. Clearly not made to show off wealth. It’s much more soldier like than noble like.
And also, if you listen how the dawnguard talk. They clearly don’t care about chivalry or anything. You can even see a bed roll with dawnguard gear near a umm.... a copy of the lusty Argonian maid... so clearly, they are not very chivalrous.
Knights are noble and chivalrous
The dawnguard are brutal, and efficient. They don’t care about fairy tales or a maiden they’re fighting for. They want their mission to be done.
But the goal of the dawnguard has a pretty knightly and fantastic goal.
wacky iowa Knights Never truly followed chivalry they raped women and killed innocent civilians
@@Alexmustdie-zy6kz Lets not generalize.
I really hope there are more Knight Orders in TES VI
I mean, if it's in High Rock, more knights are all but guaranteed. And besides, the Bretons deserve to get more lore.
Alright so this video is great, but Drew my boy I would suggest some tips from the "vocal toolbox," the fact that every sentence ends with the same intonation makes it sound like a really long and tired prayer. It was just a little hard paying attention of listening for very long like that.
Despite that though, I loved the video and I've always been fascinated by knight orders in our favorite game universe, so I stuck with it. Just a smol suggestion for future vids, take it or leave it. Great work!
By aka I've been rewarded by the Divines for my long nights once again by the blessed Fudge. (This genuinely already made my day thanks guys)
much as I love you guys, you're not entirely correct when it comes to knighthood, knights are not sworn to serve god(every person were held to certain Christian standards, with some deviation depending on social standing) the reason the templars were, so unique and beloved was because they were the first knight order sworn to only god(and to the pope) not answerable to lords and kings.
Everybody knows the only good knight faction is the knights of the thorn. Small as a platoon but attacks like a legion. Daedra quiver before their rallying cry. The most exalted knightly order, led by Sir Indarys himself. HUZZAH!
The Blades are referred to as Knights in TESIV and in TESIII the senior leadership of the Legion are Knights. I think the player can become Knight of the Imperial Dragon in both.
What about the Maran Knights, Kynaran Order, and the Buoyant Armigers?
“Buoyant Armigers” sounds like a cheesy navy lol
Guest User #something they were the special warriors of Vivec himself they wore armor and weilded weapons blessed by him
I love how you have started to use TESO footage.
Order of murderhobos.
Motto:
"Pillage, than burn. Heaven or Oblivion."
No Knights of the Lily? Shame. I thought the Knights of Dibella would earn at least an honorable mention.
Nice one Drew. I've always thought the order aspect of highrocks culture was really neat.
Order of the Lily. You missed that one
If you ever do an edit to this you should mention the Ascendant Order of High Isle they’ve got a pretty cool story be cool to see them in mods or dlcs
Am I the only one who noticed the Robert Baratheon guest appearance at 0:13
Remember chivalry isn't a set of laws, but guidelines. A little pillaging of another hold or land is healthy, and it's okay to send someone else to trigger a possible trap in your place. Stay upper class fellow knights, and may your codpieces be obnoxious.
...wait sadly nobody has made codpieces for Skyrim. :C
14:27 Let's all appreciate that a guy magically gibbed himself so he didn't become undead.
I loved oblivion cuz you actually can become a knight errant of leyawinn. I got so giddy as a kid to get that title.
Dibella has an order though, doesn't she? I seem to recall reading it on a wiki somewhere.
Right. The Order of the Lily. Kind of lame as far as Knights go but still. Bet Mara has an order of Knights too.
The fact that these Gods are tengible and REAL will keep these knights in line. No taking advantage of commoners no rape etc. Of course there would be bad apples but overall they HAVE to stay by those virtues. And I like knighthood is different than our world.
Well you guys have persuaded me to make a Knight style build going to be the youngest daughter of a Breton Lord's son and Imperial Count's daughter, on both her mother's and father's side would have many of those who are knights, mages, lords and ladies due to her family been quite wealthy she is educated in reading, writing, swordplay, restoration magic, enchanting and she even took up smithing believing that one should look after their weapons and armour
Knights didn't solely serve a church, infact every knight with the exception of those who serve christianity served under lords.
I got an interesting theory about Argonians and I hope you want to hear it. Maybe other people think the same but I don't know so far
Argonians are actually the most powerful race but the hist trees have magical powers which drains the power of the Argonians when Argonians are born they drink hist tree sap like you guys said in one of your videos this could be the moment their powers are drained and when the deadra attacked the hist trees gave the Argonians their powers back so the deadra would leave the trees alone of course argonians believe the hist is good because they tell them the future and this could also lead the hist to let the Argonians believe the hist created them.
But I think the Argonians came from the dragons the most ancient race and evolved to live in more crowded areas like swamps. Really thank you for reading this
ps Argonians don't have wings but water breathing because the wings are useless in the swamp and the water breathing is more useful for getting food and they can't breath fire or ice etc. Because they consumed the hist sap but some Argonians still show genetics of dragons..
Nerd
That is a good theory
Maybe the Hist did that because they were scared that the argonians would become their one self and stop whorshipping them.
@@BigM1020 nerd guard
If i remember correctly the argonians born outside of black marsh and without the hist rituals are much weaker in general
Order of Zenithar-basically Tamriel’s prime PMC contractor right? 😂
YOU FORGOT THE ORDER OF THE SPELL-KNIGHTS FROM THE CREATION CLUB! (all caps angry message just as requested)
Viridity one, I believe they’re referred to as the Knights of the Crypt (colloquially referred to as “Spellknights”) and they’ve got some interesting lore relating to body/spirit modification via supernatural means, as the thing they believe to be the greatest threat to mortals - that’s why they hunt and kill briar hearts on site
@@Jabberwokee Than you for the info
@@Jabberwokee definitely one of the better pieces of lore added by the creation club
I liked that mod from the creation club. Still use it on all my playthroughs
thats creation club content though and not considered canon
did you mention the order of the lily which is dibellas all female knight/cleric order i know they aren't purely knights by definition but their description reads similar to the akatosh knights
Long live the Knights of the Rose!
I love a good Tale involving Knights. Bravo bravo I think this may be the best one yet at least in my opinion. I would like to see more Knights in the Elder Scrolls.
Skyrim: I literally have no idea what you're talking about, you mean the companions? 😂
Sad there is no mention of the Lion Guard, the Welkynar, the Order of the Lamp, and a few others.......
Vigilant xbox Load Order:
1 Clanking Armor
2 NPCs Travel (Vigilant, Vampire, Necromancer patrols)
3 Set for Underworld - Vampire Attacks
4 Stendarr's Beacon Ruhmastered
5 Stendarr Rising (Rebuild The Hall of Vigilant)
6 Glorious Fort Dawnguard
7 New PlayerCastleHome2/(de)
8 Unplayable factions armor NordWarUA
9 Silver Edge - Silver sword and greatsword model replacers
10 Variations Dawnguard armor (solstheim porters choice)
11 Wintersun: Faiths Of Skyrim
12 Speedy Greatswords
13 RxGunfighters's Spawnable Mercenaries & NPCs (guards)
14 Better Vampire NPCs 1.9
15 Silver Vampire Eyes replacer
16 Witchhunter Spells and Prayers pack
2:43 birb in top of birb
Would you do a lore update with ESO when Greymore comes out?
Hello all at Fudgemuppet! I have been watching your videos for several years and have been more than entertained and fascinated.
Anyway, I can't believe why I haven wondered this before, and my question is:
*"Why is your channel called"FudgeMuppet" ?*
I too am interested, my wife laughed her ass off when she heard “I’ve been Drew and this has been Fudgemuppet”
Being a lonely knight in skyrim is not easy..... constantly fighting glitchy dragons... and relentless amount of bears
Only having a few temp retainers and too many Lord's to serve as Thane and not all of noble
So then Ulfric is a knight? He pledged himself to talos and to fight essentially in his name since that's what the stormcloaks are fighting for as a whole.
What about the order of Talos which provably their knights are the Blades and the higher rankers of the Imperial legion like the Knight of the Imperial Dragon, Knight Paladins etc
I hope we get some kind of confirmation or at least passing mention as to what became of the second order of the Knights of the Nine in TESVI. As far as I know, there is no lore whatsoever as to their fate after Oblivion.
Did they dispand again after the Champion of Cyrodiil disappeared? Were they killed off or forcefully disbanded by the Thalmor during/after the Great War like the Blades? Or did they just drop Talos and become the Knights of the Eight again (I sincerely hope the latter isn't the case)? So many ways their story could have gone, and yet we know NOTHING.
probably what happened is they got mostly destroyed during a great crusade during the great war and the survivors got back to the priory of the nine and hid the armor of pelinal
You forgot the Order of the Lily.
Spare me your empty little compliments, girl ... and your ser's. I am no knight. I spit on them and their vows. My brother is a knight.
-Sandor, to Sansa Stark
If I could join any one of these orders, I’d join the Resolutions, to serve my eternal savior, and long time favorite patron Divine, my main man, Zenithar 😎✊😎✊😎
I love Oblivion soundtrack. 😍
You didn’t mention that the Knights of True Horn were rebuilt in Cyrodiil after their destruction as per lore provided by the Battlehorn DLC for TES IV
What about the Knights of the Imperial Legion; which the higher rank is the Knights of Imperial Dragon and lot of more, also the order of talos
You should do a video(if you haven't done one) of the all the different magical orders.
I found recently while using a religion mod is Skyrim that the Vigilants of Stendarr have been attacking me on sight despite worshiping Akatosh, a fellow aedra
Ah a new FudgeMuppet video to listen to on this nice early morning shift. Thank you guys for all your video! Pretty sure I've seen most of them lol
Knights that became exiled after the Great War
I always wondered what happened to the knights of order when jyggalag turned into Sheogorath. The essence of who they are/were should be changed since they were so tightly tied to jyggalag's mind. And if they didn't change I wonder why that is. Wouldn't it be so much better to have knights of madness watching over your mad kingdom instead of two other less faithful daedra races.
You forgot about the Blades and the Dawnguard.
The Dawnguard are loyal to Stendar.
The Blades are loyal to Attitash and the Dragonborn.
The Dawnguard are more of a mercenary guild that specializes in vampires than a holy order. True, a few of its members are former Vigilants, but they don't enforce or even encourage any type of reverence for Stendarr, Arkay or any other deity.
So many new Builds that you can make based on the different Knightly Orders. Can you make a Build call “The Black Bull”?
You forgot the knight order specificly made of females knights of kynerith
Why respect knights, when my (100 alchemy) potions can do _anything_ you can?
Give me your strongest potion
@@eu.co.5627 My potions are too strong for you traveller.
Do you have a potion of curing my erectile dysfunction?
@@IamaDinosaur I’ve got one. I call it... vie ag rah
@@thespellchecker9123 By Hircine! That's some good Reach Magic!
Am I the only one who struggles to choose between making my knight in Skyrim a pure warriorish knight and a magic based knight??? Lol
Your understanding of the historical origins of knighthood is a bit flawed.
I still strongly believe that TES6 storyline will take us to be the avatar of Ebonarm where we need to quell the different orders of knights in Daggerfall and solve their political issues. Then we also will have to deal with warriors from Redguard that are fighting the Thalmor who are backed by certain nobles of High Rock. Then to the mountains where we need to deal with the Orcs and the reformation of Orsinium and possibly the purification of Malacath into Trinimac. Then whatever we descide between each story it comes together in the end where if we formed allies or enemies we have a huge battle with the resurgence of the Underking and an undead legion that aims to take the land. The end.
PLEASE do more fallout four builds. I have been waiting for SO long!!!
I have a question in the time oblivion when the aldmarain domainian where are the knights of Tamriel in times of strife they would have turned the tide of cyradil
Angry All Caps Message:
KNIGHTS OF THE LAMP!!!
Hopefully, if ES6 is set in High Rock/Hammerfell, some of these Orders will be joinable factions.
Everhardt knights of the nine so we can purge the thalmor
@@connorluff180 there needs to be a part of the main quest where you gather multiple war-bands to purge those pointy eared self righteous mages
All of the assorted and abundant alliterations are beginning to nag my noticing nerves.
YOU FORGOT THE ORDER OF THE LILY(DIBELLA) AND THE MARAN KNIGHTS!(Mara)
Speaking of that, you guys could make a video talking about the Strange Daedric Runes found in Azerothian Tombstones in warcraft 3 reforged. Along with the strange accurate pre-c0da text from 2007 predicting Dawnguard and Nocturnal's realm, also a new light about the fate of the surviving Snow elves becoming fucking Night elves, or Noxmer.
Someone even made a post about it on /r/teslore, and its good
Knight of the Nine yup I wanted to hear about the order of the lily
night elves?
Since when were night elves a thing?
?????
YOU FORGOT THE ORDER OF THE LAMP!!!
jk but seriously the order of the lamp was a knightly order created by vanus when he realised mercenary's didnt care for the safety of the mages guild so he created this order to be the protectors of the mages guild.
I like the knights of order personally, they’ve got the whole reverse kim thing going on
I’m gonna post a comment now and then update at the end to see if they included the Knights of the Crypt from Highrock
Will report back at the end!
EDIT: No mention! They must be quite new to the lore then, since they only turned up, to my memory, in the Creation Club Spell Knight DLC!
Wouldn't that make them non Canon then?
Creation club add-ons are considered mods, not officially canon dlc like Dawnguard or Dragonborn. Don't pay for mods, there's thousands of free mods on Nexus and other websites that are usually better quality. If they ever put Creation Club stuff on sale for free then download it. Its not worth actually paying for.
@@TheCrypto34 Creation Club content is considered "mini-DLC" because the last time Bethesda tried to capitalize on the modding community, it was called "paid mods" which people called out. Whether or not Creation Club content is considered canon, I don't know, but I do agree that no one should bother with buying stuff from there when you can often get better content with free mods on the Steam Workshop and the Nexus.
TheCrypto34, I hear what you’re saying but there are some things you’ve assumed here.
1. I have a PC (I don’t)
2. I don’t care about achievements (I do)
3. You say it’s not worth it (that’s an opinion, one which I don’t share)
I appreciate you’ve got your own ideas but I’m surprised you wouldn’t even consider console gamers in your argument
Knights of the tru horn from battlehorn DLC
This description of Knighthood doesn't sound a lot like the stories I've both heard and read of French knights
You sound like a knight knerd
Knights and Chivalry are like the UN and world peace.
@@UserName0043 Coupled with a topical surname, yes.
Skyrim players: I want to be a knight!
Bethesda: we have knights at home.
Knights at home: (lame ass thanes)
MAKING FUN OF ALL CAPS ANGRY PEOPLE!
WHAT'S THE WORLD COMING TO?
lols. I almost spit out my coffee laughing.👍
video actually starts at 3:00 you're welcome
THE ORDER OF THE RADIANT HEART...oh, wait sorry, wrong game. My favorite fictional knightly order, I have often played a lost paladin of the Radiant Heart in Skyrim, I just wish a totally awesome mod-maker would make faction armor for them.
No mention of the Maran Knights. :(
Hey man have you guys done a mounted warrior build?
I’ve been using convenient horses mod, spears and weapon expansion mod, and better perks mod, and the three together could make for an awesome mounted knight build...
Horse mod let’s you stat up and decorate the horse.
The weapon mod adds 1h and 2h spears and halberds with longer reach for mounted combat.
Perks to make the build more viable.
Just curious, I’ve been trying this out as a mounted Nordic Paladin and WOWEEE it’s a fun way to play.
Love the work you do, keep it up.
Also been using a restoration and illusion build that focuses on buffing your allies and letting them stomp butt while you stay back and provide support.
The problem with horse builds are they aren’t useful in dungeons or caves, which are basically 90%+ of the combat scenarios in game. But, they are fun to play in end game RP scenarios where one can just ride around smashing giants, combating mammoths, and eradicating the undead (and their necromantic masters).
Missing Eye Of Odin see I haven’t had too much of an issue with dungeons...
It does suck not to have your horse, but I usually sword and board my way through them with a “squire” for company.
But you’re right, when you’re out in the open... blasting your way through a mob of enemies on your horse, sending them all flying. It’s pretty epic.
May i ask does the weapon expanison also give you short swords etc if so i think i have some of your mods loool
BlueSkull it does 😂
It adds:
-short swords
-spears 1 and 2handed
-halberds 2h
-staffs 2h
-mauls
-spiked clubs
-hatchets
It’s simple but I enjoy it, especially that these variants spawn on enemies 👍🏼