HOW BAD IS A DUALLY ON SNOW ROADS? 2021 F450 PLATINUM FIRST DRIVE IN THE SNOW
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- čas přidán 2. 03. 2021
- One of the things people always need to think about when going from a SRW to DRW is how the snow performance will be I know I was wondering. Well I can say I am impressed with the tires and the truck.
@workplaytv - Auta a dopravní prostředky
-30 with wind chill and you have a t-shirt on, true Canadian and congrats that’s a dream truck for me
I get people all the time asking me where my jacket is during the winter. Things like, aren't you cold?!?! You are going to get sick!
I tell them that my truck has a magical feature installed on it. I simply turn a couple of knobs and hot air comes out of vents on the dash.
@@michaelh5055 One of my sons went to the University of Alaska -Fairbanks. We went from New Mexico, USA up to pick him up. Of course, we took the ALCAN going into Canada near Montana and drove up. When we arrived my son was running around in shorts and a T-shirt. The outside temp was about zero (C) / 29 degrees F. Everything was still frozen and the thaw had not arrived yet. This was in early May. It all depends on what a person is used to enduring.
Amen! I am the BIGGEST wuss when it comes to the cold! I guess that's why I am a dual citizen with the U.S.! ...Lol! 🤪
Bruce.
Cold don’t bother me I could wear shorts 12 months out of the year
@@dannysavagedraftguru I live in south Alabama. I am late 30s. I can't handle the heat like I used to.
Me and my wife are looking into buying a house way up north for June through October. The heat here is absolutely brutal. I don't see how people sit on the beach all day. If we go to the beach. It's early morning or 4pm or later. You will get second degree burns on the bottom of your feet without shoes. I have actually had flip flops start to melt.
Sometimes getting stuck behind slow people is a good thing. I’ve had many times getting stuck behind people going slow wanting to pass and bam! There’s a cop lol saved my ass a few times 😂
Happens to me all the time lmao
You also? It happens to me. It’s very difficult for me because I have a heavy foot. I love my sons big truck. It has power like I’ve never seen before. I love to out drive my grandchildren. Grandson has the Hellcat and my granddaughter has the Camaro. My son has that big truck. Diesel,dully, 4 door and the long bed. I was surprised at its power. My oldest son has a truck with a V 12. It will run. I know that I’m a great granny now but I still love to race. I get so aggravated when I’m slowed down but there usually is a cop and it has saved me from several tickets.
We had 14” in SW Washington a few weeks ago and never had an issue with my dually. First time driving a dually in the snow.
Great video. I don’t miss the snow anymore since relocating to southeast US. What a nice truck.
Your gonna have a lot of relevant input for us, thank you for sharing.
Get yourself some Amber fog lights so we can see the road even if you don't.
Nice truck a shame it doesn't shed some of the salt from the roads too.
Plus 8° today in BC, spring is coming for NS in May.
Coming from Alaska, the problem comes when you get hard packed ice ruts in the road. Two wheels will not track well in the rut so you end up fishtailing real really hard. I made the mistake of putting a plow on a dually, spent more time putting chains on than plowing. On a flat surface it was fine (with 2000lbs of ballast) , getting into hillside locations I was screwed.
exactly i live in alaska and i can agree. uping the tire pressure helps with studs too because of your pressure per square inch
My f450 dually does amazing in -30 with icy roads, mind you it has a 4000lb welding skid in the back.
O i love my truck it’s does really good on snow and ice and yes it’s f550 ford diesel 7,3 duallly a good work truck for a 2000 ford
I believe the mud and snow tires front and rear is an $800 upgrade item. Although, they may have been standard on the Platinum.
Greetings from Alberta. Conditions look familiar. As you know first-hand, it’s not so much about acceleration during winter icy conditions, it’s about how you stop without running into anything.
Nice looking 450.
He drove too fast for conditions to me, I kept thinking about how he would stop. Too close to cars also. It looks like a nice work truck. A lot of money.
My son has the dully, diesel, 4 door and long bed. My oldest son is a semi driver for 30 years. He has the truck and it’s the V 12. He is actually the best driver because of his time on the road in that semi. All of us ride motorcycles and that actually makes a person more careful while driving anything.
you have a gorgeous truck! I am a diehard Ford fan and appreciate other people who realize how great Ford is - loved your video.
In slippery conditions, air down to 1/2 your normal pressure, and reduce speed at least 25%. It makes a huge difference in traction and stopping distance.
Lower air pressure 2 or 33 is sufficient. Reduce by 1/2 is dangerous and will damage the side walls.
@@richardmiseljr2413 you shouldn’t be going fast enough, or far enough, in slippery conditions to do any damage. Airing down is common practice off-road, and pressures as low as 7 psi are common. 15 psi is generally safe with plain wheels and road tires to prevent beads coming unseated. Anyone driving above 40 mph in slippery conditions is a menace to everyone on the road, and frankly speaking public safety would be best served if they end up stuck in a ditch till conditions clear.
@@robertschulke1596 only applies to offroad tires like all terrains with specially designed sidewalls and beads, like KO2's, wildpeaks and A/Tx etc etc.. these tires resist bead breaking from tire flex and resist sidewall punctures and reduce the internal wear from driving on the sidewall. a normal all season or highway tire, that's dangerous to run 1/2 pressure. .. massively increase the risk of the bead breaking because not designed to run on the sidewalls which are all squish and move around now.. not only this but you can wear out the sidewalls against itself and cause it to delaminate and prematurely fail or just straight up saw through itself again not designed to drive around on the sidewalls. . additionally because running tires on what is basically no air, they will generate more heat. more heat = less snow sticks to the tread and tire.. less snow sticking to the treads = less snow grip.. snow tires work by using physics of snow grips onto itself. if snow melts or gets ejected from sipes because turning to slush as it nests into them, wont have as much grip.. so airing down isn't always the best thing in snow, may initially help you get unstuck or up a hill but further along it will hinder you more than help as snow fails to stick to it..
i suggest for most people running "normal tires" between 32-34 psi normally to reduce pressure by 5 psi.. but not by half.
@@Honeypot-x9s ummm, yeah. I’ve been driving on snow, ice, black ice, mud, etc. since 1968. I literally learned on it. Never got stuck where I needed a tow. Never lost a tire. Passed a lot of stuck cars in my Detroit sedan with plain tires, including 4WD trucks.
@@robertschulke1596 doesn’t mean you understand tires though. Not doubting you either, but 50% airing diwn is a dangerous game or at-least a very expensive game for people with the wrong tire. most modern A/S, L/T, H/T, M+S, and 3PMSF tires are not designed to be run that low. Severe risk of damaging the sidewall in several different ways from it running against itself and from pinching it in the lip of the rim when hitting a bump and/or breaking the bead. Not only this but this is one way to kill warranty and/or coverage on tires not rated to do this if they do get damaged because usually fairly obvious from the inside that the sidewall was rubbing on itself.
If airing down is that important; look for A/T or M/T tires all the top few teirs of A/T and M/T tires will have reenforced sidewalls and beads, some will even have Kevlar to reduce wear and add additional puncture resistance. These tires can be aired down and used within their spec and doesn’t void any warranties or coverages either.
Am in Georgia, USA and we rarely get any snow let alone single digits but watching this video at 69° Oct 30 2021 I can't even imagine enduring a single winter night up in Canada with that snow. Nice video bro
Canada sucks. You're right to stay in the South. And this is said from a person born here.
I had ceramic coating put on my 2020 ram 2500 and 18 months later it still beads water off as good as the first day. I've put aquapel on my windshield twice since and at Highway speeds you basically don't even need the wipers at all, it's kind of crazy tbh.
I always waxed/polished my windshield and same thing,water beads right off while driving..My wife's car is ceramic coated in July,so far happy with it.If it holds up I will do my other vehicles.
Love the newer led fog lights. Thanks
I drove a F450 Diesel 4x4 box truck for a oxygen company and had the mountain route in Colorado. Middle of winter steep grades of of sometimes one lane dirt roads with huge drop offs a foot of snow she never let me down once even with a full load, always got grins when I would pull up to a patients house and them saying "You got that truck up here?"
Awesome truck brother I appreciate the great videos as always
Great truck! Congrats!
Bought this for my small back deck in the Eastern Sierra. czcams.com/users/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN We get A LOT of HEAVY snow so I was a bit skeptical but it was worth it! After the first storm of the year this has exceeded expectations! It throws snow very well, even 10-12” + that said the more it piles up the harder it is to maneuver the machine. It is exceptionally light weight and overall exactly what I was looking for. If you have a large amount of snow and a lot of area to clear, you may consider something with a drive engine to help maneuverability, but for decks, second stories, roofs etc, you can’t beat the light weight to great snow throwing ratio. Side note, the chute rotator is a bit flimsy and it initially didn’t seem to work, after a few uses it seems to have loosened up.
Arriving ten minutes later is always better than never arriving at all.
Truck still looks great dirty. Yeah hate those 18 degree drops. Yesterday 78...today 60 farenheit. You big cajones...dude...props
I have a 2021 F-450 Just love the truck. Live in Colorado and have not taken it out in the snow yet. Thank you for showing this video. The truck is a beast, but I get great mileage, turning radius is great. And did I mention it's fast.
Nice truck. I gave a 2020 F450 Platinum. Try the slippery drive mode. I think it makes a world of difference with driving in snow with the F450. The reduced torque starting off the line eliminates wheel slip and makes it easier to control.
CHAINS
Slippery mode will also engage individual wheel braking, which works with the rear axle LSD in retaining traction.
@josephrogers8213 doesn't thar defeat the purpose of purchasing a 4wd truck?
Late comment but I was curious as to whether this f450 counts as commercial or not since it comes with a bed. I know it is super hard to get the f550+ tagged and insured for personal use since they come as chassis cabs. What was your experience with this?
Hi bud,
Yes, even in the snow that truck is a beast.
Wow. Glad your enjoying the truck
Operated a K3500 dually in Northern Ontario. It was very stable in snowy conditions.
The hardest part of driving in snow isn’t the starting nor even avoiding getting stuck...... it’s stopping in an emergency.
100% correct.
Beautiful truck!!👍🏼Stay safe
My dream truck! It got to -12 in Oklahoma....I have f250 same build
Nice truck Tyson
I got caught in that storm going Pugwash not fun for sure
Looking forward to the tire and rim upgrade
Glad to see your liking that 450
Thought I recognized that accent. I went to Mount A. Sweet video and great content
I pick up my new F450 Platinum in Lithium grey next month! I CAN"T WAIT! You're right man, total DREAM TRUCK ! CONGRATS MAN she's a real beauty, I love the blue!!!!
Congrats brother! Great choice, I'm getting the exact configuration but I'm waiting for later this year until they drop the 2022. I need that new display! Lol
@@jaychacon240 Heck Yea! 12 inch screen!
I have an F450 cab and chassis coming in a couple weeks. Just an LX but it will be my daily driver and farm truck for a couple years. We run the Michelin XDS2 on our F550’s and our Kenworth Oilfield trucks. They are phenomenal on snow and ice. Not as good in the mud as a heavy lug but very very good all round. Love the color of your F450. Really nice looking truck 👍🏼
Feel bad you have to drive it in the winter, mine resides I Florida for the winter!When your old you can do that !
That's a true "luxury work truck" right there!
This was very useful. Thanks. I was worried about the tire situation between the F350 and F450 duallys. There's more choices for the F350 when it comes to snow and mud. But I'll stick with the F450 now.
Nice truck guys
I am waiting for my F-450 order come through. I was told that it will be in 2023. How are you checking your tire pressure?
I couldn't believe it.
Beaitiful machine 👏brother congrats and njoy
I have a Ford Ranger 3.2 diesel and local driving (up to 60 kilometers per hour) , I live in the mountains, I’m getting 8.6 to 9.1 kilometer per liter. 😢
Thanks for the video, I was planning to get a f450 but since I've moved to North Dakota was lind of worried about winter with oem tires
My oldest' daughter's 2020 F450 Kings Ranch dually 4x4 has General ATX2 tires and she's never had a problem driving in snow or average mud situations.
My son has one and he never have had any trouble driving it in any kind of weather. Rain, snow and ice, no problems. I have driven it and I didn’t have any trouble. I love it. His is the diesel ,dully, long bed, 4 doors. I absolutely love it. I just wish I could afford one.
O i love my f550 with a 7’3 4door runs great
@@user-ck2gt2zj9p Sounds nice.
I'm running a 20 f450 with 37×13.5x22 ridge grapplers. Amazing tire in the prairie snow but not for much longer. +8c this weekend
Enjoy. -16 here right now
Nice truck ! I love my 2020 F450 ! Love the color you went with
Gone into limp mode yet?
@@Erin-Thor dodge does that
@@sebastianguzman3845 - I have a coworker and a neighbor, both with F250’s, and both of theirs go into limp mode several times a year. And no, they both insist no trouble found, not low on def fluid, anything. I can personally attest to driving most of the way from El Paso to Dallas over 3 long days which normally is a 9 hour drive. Several coworkers also have RAM’s, and while not perfect, I’ve only heard of one limp mode event. And two have Toyota Tundra’s that are way underpowered for the weight we tow, but while one is 5 years old with about 400k miles, and the other is about 3 years old with over 150k miles, there’s been only one non scheduled shop visit between the two of them. We used to tease them about their choice of trucks, but time has taught us all respect for them.
@@Erin-Thor ford built tough, rams transmission is horrible
Beautiful truck!
It almost looks like it has a leveling kit. Nice vid bro
450 trucks don't lean forward much, it's a good look
omg the Maritimes have been a mess the last couple days, especially in NB, blowing winds and icey roads are no good lol
You are correct - it looks black in low light and blue in bright light.
I’d be switching over to a dedicated Winter tire if I lived up there. There is a Hotshot guy I follow Danger Industry who bought a new King Ranch F450 who operates in the upper peninsula who did that . Being a 19.5” commercial tire are there many choices ? Beautiful truck 👍
I must have missed that video as far as I know he is still running the continentals
what about all the salt? Did you rustproof the truck with oil or LP2 -LP3? I use the latter on my aircraft and it is outstanding.
Beautiful. We got a 2020 F350 DRW last May for our 5th wheel. Love it, but occasionally wish we would have gone with the 450. Very happy to see how well it has done for you in the snow. Honestly, I've hesitated taking ours out when we had snow (Kansas - not much) - I'd be in my GTI most likely.
I have a dually and it makes a difference with some weight in the bed over the drive axle
Nice video !! I've watched many of your vids lately and just subscribed. Maybe I need to re-watch your ceramicoat video a little more carefully but what is the cost of a treatment like that (in Canadian), and how often should it be re-applied ? Cheers ! 🍻
I read the comments in your other video, you said about $3000 in the Nova Scotia area.
Had to laugh when you said you'd like to be doing 50... Where I am in the hills and narrow lanes, if your doing 50, it'd be straight to the scene of the accident. 🤣🤣🤣
Have you thought about installing centramatic wheel balancers on your new rig? I just got a new F350 dually and I heard they really keep the dually’s tracking straight. I’m in Bend, Oregon, so we get weather, but nothing like you experience. I don’t know how you do it being on the road so much in that crap.
If I get new tires and wheels i will for sure
Wow double sunroof as well.. nice accessories.. didn't know you could get it with those..
You have my dream truck😁
I’ve heard those F450s with the continentals are horrible in the snow. Thanks for sharing your perspective as a new owner.
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Nice truck.... we just got a 2020 silverado custom 4wd 2inch lift it's a nice truck as we live in Northern Saskatchewan
How much does a truck transport $ make monthly avg?
Goodyear duratrac tires do extremely well in the snow and ice. I have had them on the dually for the last 100k miles. All the snow and ice that Wyoming and Montana have thrown in my path have never been too much. You obviously still have to be wise but they have never failed me. Driving on roads you can barely walk on and I’ve never had trouble. Just my $0.02.
Do you tow heavy? With the weights I tow I need the weight rating and something that will last
@@workplaytv our 36’ triple axle livestock trailer weighs about 10k unloaded and around 22k loaded and our 41’ 5ver weighs 21k with roughly 3400 pin weight. That said, I’ve never ventured to tow the 5ver in snow and ice but the livestock trailer has seen some unplanned OS weather. Not sure if that helps but it’s our setup.
I know when I went to mud tires they actually had higher weight rating than the stock tires on my dually,
@@workplaytv
I have Duratracs on my f250 and the rears are definitely wearing faster than the fronts. But from what I've seen, the first 50% of tread is a lot softer than the last 50%.
I like how he's like wow all the tires on my brand new truck are the same
Add some weight to box, drop tire pressures for more flex / traction in winter.
True Canadian using wipers when the rain is flying right off the windshield 🤣
I run Goodyear duratracs on my dually and pull kx080 in snow in Saskatchewan, no issues best tires
Duratracs are the best tire you can put on a truck. My truck turned into a tank
Are the roads heated ? Probably stupid question but no cold weather like this from where I live.
I thought you are from US until I saw hockey sticks :)
Interesting sounds
So whats it like offroad compared to a SRW
So how much GCWR weight for your f-450
Have you installed your Banks Derringer to the f450 yet, I thinking of getting one or going with ez lynk.
No it actually isn’t ready fir the 2021s yet
Nice looking rig, only thing I can't get past is Ford likes to use a big valance under the front bumper.
Geez, like at the size of that beautiful beast.
That thing is huge!
You can LIFT the truck and put special-order versions of the 35 inch NITTO EXO Grapplers on this without too much problem and will go anywhere no matter the weather! I am way across the other side in Vancouver, British Columbia and I see a LOT of lifted F350/F450 Duallies with the aggressive Goodyear or Nitto tires WITH bead lock when you get the custom-order wheels too! I have seen these go straight up the 8% grade of the Coquihalla Highway and the STEEP downhills near Kelowna on ice AND snow with no problems!
I have also seen the lifted F350's and F450's on pretty gnarly Forest Service Roads with ruts, rocks, sand, mud, snow, ice and the NITTO EXO Grapplers or the custom-order versions of the 35 inch Goodyear Duratrac/Territory M/T tires work great with Bead lock wheels which DO ALLOW you let the air down with no damage to the sidewalls or tread!
This is ALL ABOUT spending some money on higher-end TIRES and WHEELS in order to be able to go on the worst-of-the-words roads and off-road terrain! It can be done! In just the last part of April 2022, I have seen at least TEN such lifted F350/F450 duallies with that NITTO and Goodyear M/T tire combinations on custom wheels!
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Good Video,Good Information,Thank You
Them continental tyres are one of the common tyres that is used over here in the uk. Mainly on HGV’s
Is the f450 a better ride? Suspension wise? And interior? Or about the same? Great vid. Thanks Brian
Better than the 550. Sand interior as my 2020
The holy grail of trucks
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In Finland we use studded tires in the winter. The only thing I would put on my truck in the winter. I know some people with other winter tires and it’s just crap on new ice that no one with studds has driven on yet and ripped up the ice a little bit so it gets grip
That's a sweet truck man! i'm going to end up either getting a semi new ford of ram diesel dually for my bussiness, i've never even driven a dually, semi trucks, but never a dually, i've hear a dually can get stuck on wet grass lol, like they have really bad traction or something? or something with dirt packing between the duals and not allowing the tires to clean themselves out or something? idk, we'll see how it goes, because it will end up in the dirt and mud for sure haha.
I haven't noticed a difference, in fact it seems like the dually has more traction, whether on dry pavement but also off, just like wider tires, they have more contact patch, but tires make the truck, a bad tire won't do good on srw or drw
They have more contact to the ground than a regular axle truck but its almost the same pressure on the ground so with extra tires your putting the pressure over 2 extra tires making you grip a little less per tire than if you only had the single axle. Same kind of thing when soothing a gun the pressure going back is the same going forward but the gun dosen't go though your shoulder because the pressure is disturbing over a bigger area. Hope that makes sense
My son has the dully, diesel, long bed, 4 door. He hasn’t had any problems with it in any kind of weather. I’ve driven it and I haven’t had any trouble. You will love it. My oldest son drives a semi. He also has the pick up with the V 12. I’m a great granny but I still love to race. Any chance I get, I will. I love out running my grandchildren. I’m older but I have the experience.
@@misshazel271 👊👊👍👌
How fitting that you have hockey sticks in the bed of the truck!
Do you think super singles would be better in snow? I do believe they would track a lot better in mud and deep snow but road performance idk.
Yeah I’d say so
That weather was crap to drive in yesterday
Thanks for the video. I just placed an order for a 2022 F350 Dually 6.7 in atlas blue. We are currently in Washington state but will be moving to hopefully Kentucky in August when I retire from the military. I have never driven a dually. My first dually experience will be during the driving portion of the CDL school troops into transportation that im going through now. Good to know that the dully superduty handles well in winter conditions.
How do you like the 6’7 in your f350
I love my 2000 f550 7’3 runs like hell
I find that duallys tend to float in deep snow it doesn’t sink in like a srw that’s why I don’t have one and also I don’t need it for the trailers I pull.
Que hermosa camioneta
my 450 was sliding all over the place last month when we got snow here in Texas but then again mine has the previous tires...no thanks im good staying home...lol its amazing how everyone is driving that fast with so much snow.
1/2" snow in Texas= 564 deaths due to vehicle pile up.
Moved from Michigan to Kentucky. When it snows here, people really go crazy an panic shop. Call off school an wont drive anywhere. All this before the snow even starts falling. It’s hilarious 😂 . Driving in the snow doesn’t affect me. It’s the ice I worry about.
@@shortshorts920 yup black ice is what I heard it called in other states...I think we are more prone to ice because of the heat and temp swings...
Looks like a good enough truck
Does anyone know if this truck is availlable to buy in Europe, specifically in Austria?
Beautiful truck. I got a 2018 f350. .
Can you get one of these as a personal use truck? Just a regular driver license. And what about insurance. Do you have to do yearly saftey ?
Yeah you sure can
Get some Nokian Hakkapeliitta LT3s, you'll like em, they're mint.
Do you not have winter weights in the bed?
if the water is flying off the windshield then why are you using your wipers?
Is your airbag blown
well i enjoyed the ride along
i dont even have a heavy trailer but duellys are so cool